What on earth am I going to do? The end of western civilization. If I cannot get my daily fix of the Washinton Post, I'm just going to end it all...
umm actually no, I just won't visit their site. Just like I haven'y visited their site for years. The last time I visited, IIRC, I did a script count for some research. They are a huge source of scripts and trackers and tasty malware. My loss, I guess.
I'm not using an app right now. It's extremely easy for me to just go to a competing site if you don't want donations or paywalls.
There are very few sites that will publish content out of the goodness of their hearts. If they can't get paid through advertising, then it's apps or paywalls or something but not free.
Don't get me wrong; I use adblock and never see ads. So I guess I'm a hyopcrite. But if online advertising can't unltimately make money somehow we're gonna have a very different web on our hands.
I actually don't think you are a hypocrite. When a web page takes a minute ot load on a fast service, only because it's ramming a little story, and many megs of ads, it starts to become a real mess. And when a fair amount of that is malware pretending to be an ad, it becomes an arms race.
I think we are reaching a tipping point, when Websites are finding out that there is going to be a choice. Go out of business because people are blocking your ads, or go out of business because no one wants to visit a page with 50 scripts, a bunch of trackers and analytics, and all the malware you'd ever not want. And it isn't even a security thing for some folks. It's so much loading time that an unprotected machine might take so long ot load a page, they assume it's frozen.
I block ads for the same reason I don't invite methods into the house.
I'll remove adblock when sites start acting responsibly. Then I'll see all their ads. What a concept.
Um, unless you have a hole in your eardrum, that doesn't work; or at least it cannot work by disinfection.
As I said, do not use this method. Before teh age of modern medicine, with properly trained doctors making prescriptions for properly tested pprescription medicines, the death rte from ear infections was 100 percent.
Seriously my dear fellow, it does indeed work, and you are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
No go eat some antibiotic fed beef, it will keep you very healthy.
With the cover-your-ass part done, I'll add that I've done something similar. I've used a mix of alcohol (or water peroxide) mixed with tea tree oil and iodine. Hurts as hell, but that has knocked out ear infections that would make me go see a doc to get prescription antibiotics.
First time I tried and showed my PCP she was actually quite surprised. She even told me "man you did nuke those suckers" (not that she was approving of it.)
Strange world, where we're here on slashdot trading health tips!
Are you including depreciation of capital equipment?
Sorry what's your point?
The point is that somehow, someway cloud eliminates all your problems. When I had a part time business, my capital equipment was depreciated over time, giving me tax benefits. Which was in answer to including the labor costs of non-cloud operations, s a fatal indictment of non-cloud operations.
Because it doesn't eliminate all your problems, it isn't all blue sky, puppydogs and unicorns.
The obvious solution is to outsource the bean counters.
Hoopefully they will resume their reguar place Starting around 2000, they became commodities instead of normal employees. Then they ended up running the show. The place I was at went from a few accountants to maybe a hundred.
And despite that increase, there always seemed to be a "need" to hire several more.
I used to joke about "needing" a 150 K accountant to keep track of 2K of company pencils. Not certain that hasn't become reality in some places.
I might try this, once more, I forgot I used to do this when I was younger. And, it was very loud when I last did it.
Did you every gargle with hydrogen peroxide diluted with water?
I am trying to decide if I want to try that again.
Yes, its a weird peppery laste, and you're stuck with a foamy mouth for while. If I have a bad sore throat, I'll use it, but no way every day like some do.
In reality a hosted cloud is more expensive and less secure in almost all cases. When will people wake up and realize that cloud was created not to provide any particular service that can't be provided locally, but is just a way to turn something you used to pay for once into a monthly forever and ever payment. Cloud is cheaper up front, but almost always more expensive in duration.
Are you including labor costs of non-cloud support in that calculation...?
Are you including depreciation of capital equipment?
This is very similar to the in-house versus oursource issue. Our's was on a five year cycle. Engineers on one side, bean counters on the other.
A;ways came back to in house because of the control, then the bean counters show how much money can be saved by outsourcing, then all that money saved and more is wasted by reworks and travel, then it comes back in house for the control, then the bean counters show how much money can be saved......
As someone who gets earaches fairly often, once upon a time, I would get a course of antibiotics, and occasionally needed a second course.
Then a very smart lady told me about hydrogen peroxide. A bit of that in your ear for a day or so would knock those little buggers on their ass.
It was very interesting the first time you put some in your ear - tickles a little and is loud as it releases the oxygen it kills the germs with.
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This is not medical advice. Do not ever do this. Always consult a trained medical professional with the proper certifications for any and all medical treatments including antiseptics and band-aids. Do not use any other treatments than prescribed medicine. Always visit a trained professional for every physical ailment.
My fully loaded Macbook Pro cost a little more than $3K. If it gets stolen, I would like to be able to get it back.
Buy a used cheapie for the road and leave the good stuff at home. Dings and dents are your friends, they decrease resale value and maybe the thief will pass over junk that he can't sell.
THIS! I bought a cheap eePC netbook for road trips, and lately, a Chromebook. My good stuff is safe at home. Now of course, some people want whatever status may come from top-end macs and Sonys, but as much as I like the Apple offerings, I could not care less about wowing people. My only Apple product I take with me is my iPhone, because it would be kind of silly to get a smartphone, then leave it at home.
Yup, act as if everyone is purposefully out there to kill you.
So then the converse is also true All bikers are assholes who don't obey traffic laws, ride several abreast, and like to tattoo your car with their rings as you stop at a stop sign or light, and barell throug the sign or light.
My point is not that bikers are my enemy. My point is that if a biker takes that attitude, don't be surprised if everyone else thinks they are an asshole.
Actually the typical advice given to bikers is to ride thinking that everyone around you is actively trying to kill you. It works because most people grossly underestimate how others can be *incompetent* but have much less difficulties in thinking about how others could be *malicious*. This is helpful in getting enough caution out of them.
Which is about as stupid as advice can get. Thinking that every car on the road is your enemy only furthers the self righteous attitide some bikers have.
I was follwing behind bikes at a bicycle race, giving a buffer between thm and any cars coming up, and providing radio support. Some rider t the back mothins me around, then when I tried to tell him that I was there for his protection, he went apeshit crazy on me, exhausting every expletive, and wanting to fight me.
A radio call ahead to the next check station, and he was removed from the race.
If every vehicle is your enemy, you have no place on the road.
And it fosters an us against them attitude that causes bikers to ride several abreast, and think it is their right to obey only the rules they find convenient. Stopping is inconvenient, and riding in the provided bike lane is only a suggestion.
Waiting for the protests from the folks who believe Sunscreen actually causes cancer
Just remember to take your vitamin D.
Vitamin d deficiencies - the latest thing - are probably related to the present day aversion to sun, and only very indirectly to sunscreen. Not the chemicals in it, just a side effect of doing it's job.
Back when I was a child, we were worried about getting too much Vitamin D Deficits in people with deep pigmentation living in northern cities like Detroit is a real problem.
We've gone from an age where getting outside was considered healthy, to one where I hear presumably intelligent people claiming that getting 1 sunburn will cause you to die from melanoma. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/hea...
Which of course is impossible, unless our ancestors were vampires that could only come out of their caves at night.
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A friend's wife works as a recruitment consultant and tells similar stories; countless people whose angry twitter exchanges, viewable by the general public and posted with their real name, have created such an impression of poor judgement that employers don't want to touch them.
And the very first poor judgement was getting a Twitter account in the first place. For all the reasons you noted.
This is really something that ends up killing a service. It's th tragedy of the commons.
An example was how usenet was destroyed. As a couple examples, A couple newsgroups I paid attention to were an antenna newsgroup, and an amateur radio policy group.
The antenna group at one time had a number of world class designers who were happy to share their knowledge with the rest of us. But the kooks moved in, people with miracle antenna and fringy physics, and ill manners to boot.
Well, on the internet, a world renowned expert is on equal footing with someone who designs dummy load antennas based on physics only a perpetual motion advocate could love, and doesn't hesitate to go nuts if challenged.
So the usefull people go away, and the crazy dude wins. for aweek or two.
The policy group was taken over by some kooks from West Virginia whith sever psycho sexual problems. Now no content, and since pissing off people who were there for a valid purpose was part of the fun, the kooks end up leaving.
Twitter, Facebook, et al are incredible marvels for people who want to keep in touch with celebrities or a large group of acquaintances, friends and family with minimal effort.
This contributes to declining Enquirer readership and submarining postal revenue, but those are seemingly consequences most of us can live with.
On the not so fortuitous side of the scales, it seems too easy for an excitable electronic mob to win the day (and the 24 hr news sweeps) . The level of individual sacrifice required for participation is smallish: a smart phone, a tablespoon of outrage and a five minute bathroom break.
That's because as you note, it takes very little effort. Which automatically appeals to assholes.
I have no need for someone I haven't seen in 40 years to be my friend. I also have a marked tendency to apply a little more nuance than can be expressed in an inane tweet. My friends I keep in direct contact with, email, or Send the kids out of the room folks....... I meet them face to face. Twitter and Facebook is like meeting your friends in the least savory place possible.
And I have zero interest in celebrities.
For people who like that kind of stuff, its a little messy, but it works fine. Part of their fun is seeing people self destruct.
You assume I'm arguing with you. Use a distro with system d or do not.
However, just as annoyed as you get with my little bit of ridicule, imagine how annoying it is to not hear the word "Linux" without someone bitching about systemd.
If it is the unmitigated disaster some folks say it is, the problem will fix itself in short order.
Good grief. Spare us the sailor talk, or don't people know how to talk without swearing anymore?
Fuck that shit!
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It would be great to see it gone. Who knows, journalists might resort to doing actual investigation once again instead of simply regurgitating what shows up on their twitter machine
You have to admit, it's a very efficient way for people to ruin their lives.
What's "the Linux cummounity if not roll your own if you don't like it.
DIvision is exactly what linux is all about. If you don't like something, fork it.
If the folks who start going apeshit the second systemd is mentioned were to fork it, instead of the incessent whining, they wouldnt have anything other than to brag about how superior their computig experience is, and eventually the distros with systemd would become mere footnotes, as it's ruinous qualities will just cause it to fail.
systemd has already broken the kernel repeatedly, a decade of log collection and analysis tools that I personally use, decades of cross-platform tools, decades of network configuration tools, and now it's trying to replace "su" and "/etc" to create a "stateless Linux". I'm afraid that it's a system management tar baby, adhering to every system component that it touches and leaving them snarled in sticky debris that is difficult to wash off.
It has also made ancient aliens take over the congress, caused otherwise normal peoplr to massacre entire cities, and cancer in everyone. finally, tiny little boils that explode annd throw white hot magma on everyone in cows. systemd is the real cause of all those millions of acres of wildfires in Washington state.
Now tell me. It is apparent that you hate systemd with a white hot passion.
so why are you using it? You do not haev to use it, and if you aren't. what on earth are you bitching bout. I mean really?
As a long time Linux user, I'm dumbfounded by how the Linux community has basically turned on itself over the past 5 years.
It's not Microsoft, nor SCO, nor Apple, nor any other external entity that's destroying the usefulness and practicality of Linux. It's the Linux community, as a whole, that's doing this!
Systemd is the obvious example of this. Never have we seen a piece of software so divide and devastate the Linux ecosystem.
Like the washingtonpost.com just started doing today?
http://www.buzzfeed.com/matthe...
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My
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GAWD!!!!!!
NOES!
What on earth am I going to do? The end of western civilization. If I cannot get my daily fix of the Washinton Post, I'm just going to end it all...
umm actually no, I just won't visit their site. Just like I haven'y visited their site for years. The last time I visited, IIRC, I did a script count for some research. They are a huge source of scripts and trackers and tasty malware. My loss, I guess.
I'm not using an app right now. It's extremely easy for me to just go to a competing site if you don't want donations or paywalls.
There are very few sites that will publish content out of the goodness of their hearts. If they can't get paid through advertising, then it's apps or paywalls or something but not free.
Don't get me wrong; I use adblock and never see ads. So I guess I'm a hyopcrite. But if online advertising can't unltimately make money somehow we're gonna have a very different web on our hands.
I actually don't think you are a hypocrite. When a web page takes a minute ot load on a fast service, only because it's ramming a little story, and many megs of ads, it starts to become a real mess. And when a fair amount of that is malware pretending to be an ad, it becomes an arms race.
I think we are reaching a tipping point, when Websites are finding out that there is going to be a choice. Go out of business because people are blocking your ads, or go out of business because no one wants to visit a page with 50 scripts, a bunch of trackers and analytics, and all the malware you'd ever not want. And it isn't even a security thing for some folks. It's so much loading time that an unprotected machine might take so long ot load a page, they assume it's frozen.
I block ads for the same reason I don't invite methods into the house.
I'll remove adblock when sites start acting responsibly. Then I'll see all their ads. What a concept.
Um, unless you have a hole in your eardrum, that doesn't work; or at least it cannot work by disinfection.
As I said, do not use this method. Before teh age of modern medicine, with properly trained doctors making prescriptions for properly tested pprescription medicines, the death rte from ear infections was 100 percent.
Seriously my dear fellow, it does indeed work, and you are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
No go eat some antibiotic fed beef, it will keep you very healthy.
With the cover-your-ass part done, I'll add that I've done something similar. I've used a mix of alcohol (or water peroxide) mixed with tea tree oil and iodine. Hurts as hell, but that has knocked out ear infections that would make me go see a doc to get prescription antibiotics.
First time I tried and showed my PCP she was actually quite surprised. She even told me "man you did nuke those suckers" (not that she was approving of it.)
Strange world, where we're here on slashdot trading health tips!
Are you including depreciation of capital equipment?
Sorry what's your point?
The point is that somehow, someway cloud eliminates all your problems. When I had a part time business, my capital equipment was depreciated over time, giving me tax benefits. Which was in answer to including the labor costs of non-cloud operations, s a fatal indictment of non-cloud operations.
Because it doesn't eliminate all your problems, it isn't all blue sky, puppydogs and unicorns.
The obvious solution is to outsource the bean counters.
Hoopefully they will resume their reguar place Starting around 2000, they became commodities instead of normal employees. Then they ended up running the show. The place I was at went from a few accountants to maybe a hundred.
And despite that increase, there always seemed to be a "need" to hire several more.
I used to joke about "needing" a 150 K accountant to keep track of 2K of company pencils. Not certain that hasn't become reality in some places.
I might try this, once more, I forgot I used to do this when I was younger. And, it was very loud when I last did it. Did you every gargle with hydrogen peroxide diluted with water? I am trying to decide if I want to try that again. Yes, its a weird peppery laste, and you're stuck with a foamy mouth for while. If I have a bad sore throat, I'll use it, but no way every day like some do.
In reality a hosted cloud is more expensive and less secure in almost all cases. When will people wake up and realize that cloud was created not to provide any particular service that can't be provided locally, but is just a way to turn something you used to pay for once into a monthly forever and ever payment. Cloud is cheaper up front, but almost always more expensive in duration.
Are you including labor costs of non-cloud support in that calculation...?
Are you including depreciation of capital equipment?
10) Rinse and Repeat.
This is very similar to the in-house versus oursource issue. Our's was on a five year cycle. Engineers on one side, bean counters on the other.
A;ways came back to in house because of the control, then the bean counters show how much money can be saved by outsourcing, then all that money saved and more is wasted by reworks and travel, then it comes back in house for the control, then the bean counters show how much money can be saved......
And, now, tell us ... just how much scrutiny are the luggage handlers under while they work?
Dunno if you remember this little incident:
http://gawker.com/5852669/tsa-...
Short version, TSA agent finds a personal vibrator in a woman's luggage, and leaves her a note:
"Get your freak on girl!"
Unfortunately for the snoopy - probably sniffy - TSA agent the woman was a fairly well known blogger.
So not much oversight, it would seem.
Then a very smart lady told me about hydrogen peroxide. A bit of that in your ear for a day or so would knock those little buggers on their ass.
It was very interesting the first time you put some in your ear - tickles a little and is loud as it releases the oxygen it kills the germs with.
21st century US litigation disclaimer:
This is not medical advice. Do not ever do this. Always consult a trained medical professional with the proper certifications for any and all medical treatments including antiseptics and band-aids. Do not use any other treatments than prescribed medicine. Always visit a trained professional for every physical ailment.
You'll get less of a sentence for manslaughter.
My fully loaded Macbook Pro cost a little more than $3K. If it gets stolen, I would like to be able to get it back.
Buy a used cheapie for the road and leave the good stuff at home. Dings and dents are your friends, they decrease resale value and maybe the thief will pass over junk that he can't sell.
THIS! I bought a cheap eePC netbook for road trips, and lately, a Chromebook. My good stuff is safe at home. Now of course, some people want whatever status may come from top-end macs and Sonys, but as much as I like the Apple offerings, I could not care less about wowing people. My only Apple product I take with me is my iPhone, because it would be kind of silly to get a smartphone, then leave it at home.
I'd like SmartSDR, a Software defined Radio program. If I had that, I wouldn't need Windows at all.
Yup, act as if everyone is purposefully out there to kill you.
So then the converse is also true All bikers are assholes who don't obey traffic laws, ride several abreast, and like to tattoo your car with their rings as you stop at a stop sign or light, and barell throug the sign or light.
My point is not that bikers are my enemy. My point is that if a biker takes that attitude, don't be surprised if everyone else thinks they are an asshole.
All it does is perpetuate the auto/biker divide.
Actually the typical advice given to bikers is to ride thinking that everyone around you is actively trying to kill you. It works because most people grossly underestimate how others can be *incompetent* but have much less difficulties in thinking about how others could be *malicious*. This is helpful in getting enough caution out of them.
Which is about as stupid as advice can get. Thinking that every car on the road is your enemy only furthers the self righteous attitide some bikers have.
I was follwing behind bikes at a bicycle race, giving a buffer between thm and any cars coming up, and providing radio support. Some rider t the back mothins me around, then when I tried to tell him that I was there for his protection, he went apeshit crazy on me, exhausting every expletive, and wanting to fight me.
A radio call ahead to the next check station, and he was removed from the race.
If every vehicle is your enemy, you have no place on the road. And it fosters an us against them attitude that causes bikers to ride several abreast, and think it is their right to obey only the rules they find convenient. Stopping is inconvenient, and riding in the provided bike lane is only a suggestion.
Waiting for the protests from the folks who believe Sunscreen actually causes cancer
Just remember to take your vitamin D.
Vitamin d deficiencies - the latest thing - are probably related to the present day aversion to sun, and only very indirectly to sunscreen. Not the chemicals in it, just a side effect of doing it's job.
Back when I was a child, we were worried about getting too much Vitamin D Deficits in people with deep pigmentation living in northern cities like Detroit is a real problem.
We've gone from an age where getting outside was considered healthy, to one where I hear presumably intelligent people claiming that getting 1 sunburn will cause you to die from melanoma. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/hea...
Which of course is impossible, unless our ancestors were vampires that could only come out of their caves at night.
A friend's wife works as a recruitment consultant and tells similar stories; countless people whose angry twitter exchanges, viewable by the general public and posted with their real name, have created such an impression of poor judgement that employers don't want to touch them.
And the very first poor judgement was getting a Twitter account in the first place. For all the reasons you noted.
This is really something that ends up killing a service. It's th tragedy of the commons.
An example was how usenet was destroyed. As a couple examples, A couple newsgroups I paid attention to were an antenna newsgroup, and an amateur radio policy group.
The antenna group at one time had a number of world class designers who were happy to share their knowledge with the rest of us. But the kooks moved in, people with miracle antenna and fringy physics, and ill manners to boot.
Well, on the internet, a world renowned expert is on equal footing with someone who designs dummy load antennas based on physics only a perpetual motion advocate could love, and doesn't hesitate to go nuts if challenged.
So the usefull people go away, and the crazy dude wins. for aweek or two.
The policy group was taken over by some kooks from West Virginia whith sever psycho sexual problems. Now no content, and since pissing off people who were there for a valid purpose was part of the fun, the kooks end up leaving.
Its just how those things evolve.
Twitter, Facebook, et al are incredible marvels for people who want to keep in touch with celebrities or a large group of acquaintances, friends and family with minimal effort.
This contributes to declining Enquirer readership and submarining postal revenue, but those are seemingly consequences most of us can live with.
On the not so fortuitous side of the scales, it seems too easy for an excitable electronic mob to win the day (and the 24 hr news sweeps) . The level of individual sacrifice required for participation is smallish: a smart phone, a tablespoon of outrage and a five minute bathroom break.
That's because as you note, it takes very little effort. Which automatically appeals to assholes.
I have no need for someone I haven't seen in 40 years to be my friend. I also have a marked tendency to apply a little more nuance than can be expressed in an inane tweet. My friends I keep in direct contact with, email, or Send the kids out of the room folks....... I meet them face to face. Twitter and Facebook is like meeting your friends in the least savory place possible.
And I have zero interest in celebrities.
For people who like that kind of stuff, its a little messy, but it works fine. Part of their fun is seeing people self destruct.
An appeal to ridicule is a logical fallacy:
You assume I'm arguing with you. Use a distro with system d or do not.
However, just as annoyed as you get with my little bit of ridicule, imagine how annoying it is to not hear the word "Linux" without someone bitching about systemd.
If it is the unmitigated disaster some folks say it is, the problem will fix itself in short order.
Good grief. Spare us the sailor talk, or don't people know how to talk without swearing anymore?
Fuck that shit!
It would be great to see it gone. Who knows, journalists might resort to doing actual investigation once again instead of simply regurgitating what shows up on their twitter machine
You have to admit, it's a very efficient way for people to ruin their lives.
I think you did not understand his point.
What's "the Linux cummounity if not roll your own if you don't like it.
DIvision is exactly what linux is all about. If you don't like something, fork it. If the folks who start going apeshit the second systemd is mentioned were to fork it, instead of the incessent whining, they wouldnt have anything other than to brag about how superior their computig experience is, and eventually the distros with systemd would become mere footnotes, as it's ruinous qualities will just cause it to fail.
RIght?
systemd has already broken the kernel repeatedly, a decade of log collection and analysis tools that I personally use, decades of cross-platform tools, decades of network configuration tools, and now it's trying to replace "su" and "/etc" to create a "stateless Linux". I'm afraid that it's a system management tar baby, adhering to every system component that it touches and leaving them snarled in sticky debris that is difficult to wash off.
It has also made ancient aliens take over the congress, caused otherwise normal peoplr to massacre entire cities, and cancer in everyone. finally, tiny little boils that explode annd throw white hot magma on everyone in cows. systemd is the real cause of all those millions of acres of wildfires in Washington state.
Now tell me. It is apparent that you hate systemd with a white hot passion.
so why are you using it? You do not haev to use it, and if you aren't. what on earth are you bitching bout. I mean really?
ford versus chevy thing?
As a long time Linux user, I'm dumbfounded by how the Linux community has basically turned on itself over the past 5 years.
It's not Microsoft, nor SCO, nor Apple, nor any other external entity that's destroying the usefulness and practicality of Linux. It's the Linux community, as a whole, that's doing this!
Systemd is the obvious example of this. Never have we seen a piece of software so divide and devastate the Linux ecosystem.
Go here: http://distrowatch.com/
Then come back and blame this silly fake disaster on systemd.