From the wiki article on Bear Camp Road:
In 1994, a man traveling over Bear Camp Road died after being stranded for nine weeks. The victim, Dewitt Finley, was a camper salesman from Montana. He was attempting to drive from Gold Beach to Grants Pass and became snowbound. He kept a journal while stranded on the road, and ultimately died of starvation.[7] His body wasn't recovered until May 1995, when it was discovered by a group of local teenagers.[8] There is no indication that Finley ever attempted to hike out, or ever left his camper. [b]Some accounts indicate that Finley would have likely survived if he had attempted to hike out.[/b]
Returning ebooks on Amazon is fairly straightforward. You have 7 days after purchase, and if you discover a formatting error during reading, it's longer. I have returned a book a month after purchase.
Most consumers believe that e-books should be a lot cheaper than print books because the publisher has been spared the expense of paper, printing, binding and shipping/distribution. However, only about 20 percent of the cover price of a new hardcover goes to those costs: about $5 out of $25. Retailers take from 40 to 50 percent, and after that, the majority of the cost of a new book goes to author royalties, editing, design, marketing, publicity, overhead and so on.
So, the question is, does Amazon take 40 to 50 percent of the ebook price? I would hope not, as that 40 to 50 percent would cover the costs of running a physical store (floor space rental, back office and front office staff).
You are under the false assumption that items are priced based on marginal cost. They aren't in practically any market, they are priced at what consumers will pay and what the competition is selling at. Fortunately for them consumers are still willing to pay extra for the digital "convenience" and the competition doesn't sell the same books.
No, I'm pointing out that it doesn't cost them anything to sell another copy of an ebook. And Amazon is right in one sense, they won't be priced at what the competition is selling at, because there won't be competition for a specific title.
Of course, a consumer could always buy a *different* title from a different publisher
That's right, because nobody markets books, or pays authors, or runs press tours, or edits books...
... and none of that has any bearing on the marginal cost of production of an ebook. The fixed costs are just that, fixed. The marginal cost associated with selling an ebook is *zero* (Amazon covers the cost of sending you the ones and zeroes)
Do you work for free? Why should people - you know, editors, typesetters, designers, copyeditors, etc. - in the publishing industry? And, even if the ebook is a digital translation of the print product, somebody still needs to make that digital translation and check it over to make sure all the i's stayed dotted and t's stayed crossed. Until you're willing to work for free, don't expect other people to do so.
I don't, but none of this has any bearing on the marginal cost of production of an ebook. The fixed costs are just that, fixed. The marginal cost associated with selling an ebook is *zero* (Amazon covers the cost of sending you the ones and zeroes)
It's not quite zero. You've still got the initial work for layout and editing, as well as the author to compensate.
Let's say 5 bucks for a "hardcover" and 2 bucks for a "paperback". Far more than they're making from Barnes and Nobel, and then Amazon could tack on a dollar to actually make a profit instead of a loss on selling these things.
BS. Have you ever seen a kindle in bright light? You can't read shit. Even indoors if there is any sort of glare from a light shining directly on it you can't read it. The same is true for *ANY* display in direct sunlight outdoors.
As a Kindle owner, I call BS. I can read outdoors, and in brightly lit rooms. Yes, if you're shining a bright light directly onto the screen then it won't be readable. But you can still shine light onto the screen to read it, they even sell a number of clip on lights for this purpose.
I like the idea, but I'm not going to buy any eBook reader until I can safely read it in the bathtub like a regular book. Crazy, maybe, but that's my criteria.
I read books on my netbook in the bathtub, carefully...
And for all that, you get to pay more than in the US. Yay!
My Kindle is arriving tomorrow, so can't test now, but according to their site:
Blogs and the experimental web browser are currently not available for your country. You will have free access to Wikipedia.
I am the one slashdotter that reads TFA (the full article) before posting. I even did a search for tryptophan. Nope, it's not there. Maybe the submitter forgot a link, but tryptophan is never mentioned in the sciencenews.org article.
I always thought it was The Fucking Article. Guess my mind is just in the gutter:P
That's what I'd be worried about. Swaggering in to test the law on the couple of items you *do* have, and they find all the music and movies you *don't* have legally. Whoops!
Perhaps it was in this case, but for Doom3 I emailed the guy who did most of the work on porting to linux and thanked him. I mentioned that it was the reason I bought the game.
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The witch trials in Europe
Were the witch trials in North America much fairer?
Less deaths in North America. Tens of thousands lost their lives in Europe, so it's a better example purely because some people choose the argument, "Well only a few people died". (e.g. the awful apologist, Lee Strobel).
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They were torturing for actionable evidence. They had people complaining of "spells" and "curses" being placed on them. They needed to find out who was doing these horrible things. They tortured innocent people until they confessed to being the ones responsible.
Now you have people complaining about terrorists. You need to find out where these terrorists are. You torture innocent people until they confess that they are terrorists, and tell you where their secret base is. How many people in Gitmo are innocent? How many have been released after spending a year or more there?
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do you have any evidence to back these assumptions? I'm not talking about another talking head saying the same thing, but I mean evidence pointing to several instances where a prisoner gave details that were expected and they turned out to be false.
I Personally doubt these methods are as ineffective as everyone likes to portray them.
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Not in South Africa
From the wiki article on Bear Camp Road: In 1994, a man traveling over Bear Camp Road died after being stranded for nine weeks. The victim, Dewitt Finley, was a camper salesman from Montana. He was attempting to drive from Gold Beach to Grants Pass and became snowbound. He kept a journal while stranded on the road, and ultimately died of starvation.[7] His body wasn't recovered until May 1995, when it was discovered by a group of local teenagers.[8] There is no indication that Finley ever attempted to hike out, or ever left his camper. [b]Some accounts indicate that Finley would have likely survived if he had attempted to hike out.[/b]
Returning ebooks on Amazon is fairly straightforward. You have 7 days after purchase, and if you discover a formatting error during reading, it's longer. I have returned a book a month after purchase.
The Sony PS4 will not come with a Linux option *at all*
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So, the question is, does Amazon take 40 to 50 percent of the ebook price? I would hope not, as that 40 to 50 percent would cover the costs of running a physical store (floor space rental, back office and front office staff).
You are under the false assumption that items are priced based on marginal cost. They aren't in practically any market, they are priced at what consumers will pay and what the competition is selling at. Fortunately for them consumers are still willing to pay extra for the digital "convenience" and the competition doesn't sell the same books.
No, I'm pointing out that it doesn't cost them anything to sell another copy of an ebook. And Amazon is right in one sense, they won't be priced at what the competition is selling at, because there won't be competition for a specific title.
Of course, a consumer could always buy a *different* title from a different publisher
That's right, because nobody markets books, or pays authors, or runs press tours, or edits books...
... and none of that has any bearing on the marginal cost of production of an ebook. The fixed costs are just that, fixed. The marginal cost associated with selling an ebook is *zero* (Amazon covers the cost of sending you the ones and zeroes)
Do you work for free? Why should people - you know, editors, typesetters, designers, copyeditors, etc. - in the publishing industry? And, even if the ebook is a digital translation of the print product, somebody still needs to make that digital translation and check it over to make sure all the i's stayed dotted and t's stayed crossed. Until you're willing to work for free, don't expect other people to do so.
I don't, but none of this has any bearing on the marginal cost of production of an ebook. The fixed costs are just that, fixed. The marginal cost associated with selling an ebook is *zero* (Amazon covers the cost of sending you the ones and zeroes)
It's not quite zero. You've still got the initial work for layout and editing, as well as the author to compensate.
Let's say 5 bucks for a "hardcover" and 2 bucks for a "paperback". Far more than they're making from Barnes and Nobel, and then Amazon could tack on a dollar to actually make a profit instead of a loss on selling these things.
That's not what marginal cost of production means. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marginal_cost
Oh that's right, zero.
BS. Have you ever seen a kindle in bright light? You can't read shit. Even indoors if there is any sort of glare from a light shining directly on it you can't read it. The same is true for *ANY* display in direct sunlight outdoors.
As a Kindle owner, I call BS. I can read outdoors, and in brightly lit rooms. Yes, if you're shining a bright light directly onto the screen then it won't be readable. But you can still shine light onto the screen to read it, they even sell a number of clip on lights for this purpose.
I have my Kindle now, and I do have Wikipedia access
I like the idea, but I'm not going to buy any eBook reader until I can safely read it in the bathtub like a regular book. Crazy, maybe, but that's my criteria.
I read books on my netbook in the bathtub, carefully...
Oh, and no Wikipedia surfing for you either.
And for all that, you get to pay more than in the US. Yay!
My Kindle is arriving tomorrow, so can't test now, but according to their site: Blogs and the experimental web browser are currently not available for your country. You will have free access to Wikipedia.
I am the one slashdotter that reads TFA (the full article) before posting. I even did a search for tryptophan. Nope, it's not there. Maybe the submitter forgot a link, but tryptophan is never mentioned in the sciencenews.org article.
I always thought it was The Fucking Article. Guess my mind is just in the gutter :P
That's what I'd be worried about. Swaggering in to test the law on the couple of items you *do* have, and they find all the music and movies you *don't* have legally. Whoops!
I'm not overweight either (had never been), I weigh 75kg, at 1.78cm tall. So that's pretty ok.
I hate to break it to you, but 75kg is extremely overweight for someone 1.78 cm tall.
Perhaps he is Azazel... He's only 2 cm tall and very, very heavy
Most African nations do have shockingly high death rates, but that is due to murder. Suicide is quite uncommon in Africa.
That's just because you don't live long enough to kill yourself :P
Perhaps it was in this case, but for Doom3 I emailed the guy who did most of the work on porting to linux and thanked him. I mentioned that it was the reason I bought the game.
:)
He replied and said it was a pleasure
Not seeing the sneaky method when I click the buy now button. Perhaps it's region specific?
I specifically held off buying the game until the Linux version was available.
I did the same with Doom3
Tens of thousands lost their lives in Europe
Any reliable figures to that effect?
As a matter of fact, yes:
;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_trials_in_Early_Modern_Europe#Number_of_executions
You're not Lee Strobel by any chance?
The witch trials in Europe
Were the witch trials in North America much fairer?
Less deaths in North America. Tens of thousands lost their lives in Europe, so it's a better example purely because some people choose the argument, "Well only a few people died". (e.g. the awful apologist, Lee Strobel).
They were torturing for actionable evidence. They had people complaining of "spells" and "curses" being placed on them. They needed to find out who was doing these horrible things. They tortured innocent people until they confessed to being the ones responsible.
Now you have people complaining about terrorists. You need to find out where these terrorists are. You torture innocent people until they confess that they are terrorists, and tell you where their secret base is. How many people in Gitmo are innocent? How many have been released after spending a year or more there?
do you have any evidence to back these assumptions? I'm not talking about another talking head saying the same thing, but I mean evidence pointing to several instances where a prisoner gave details that were expected and they turned out to be false.
I Personally doubt these methods are as ineffective as everyone likes to portray them.
The witch trials in Europe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_trials Unless you believe in witches I guess.