I'd be worried that it was not even refurbished, but connected up, and it seemed to work properly, so they just reboxed it, and off it went to Newegg. Especially if the manufacturer of the drive has ever had a firmware update for it. Many times the refurb will look at the problem, and try to decide if it was hardware or software related, and if they decide software, then reflash it, and move on to the next one in the pile (hello smartphones).
If you look closely at it, does it show any differences compared to the other two? Warranty Void stickers, screw head marks, screw torque, anything that might indicate it was handled with a different process than the other two you have?
It sounds like it doesn't have the same diag partition as the others, how was it verified?
I'd ask for a new one, and not stop asking til it is the same as the other two.
I asked one of the main AVR designers from Norway if it was ok to set a configuration, or a constant in RAM during initialization and trust with 100% certainty that it would not change during operation. He said that even on the worlds cleanest power supply, and absent the presence of any EMI, he would still NOT recommend it.
If you run 10 AVRs for 1000 hours you will see bits flipped. Many times it only effects a RAM variable that is constantly being recalculated anyways, so it causes little if any disruption to the operation of the device.
It really sucks when its something critical like a timer counter control register.
If anyone would like to duplicate my testing, I'd be glad to send code, but all you have to do is set everything to a known value, and then read it over and over til it changes. It doesn't take as long as you think (or hoped) it would! It also gives you a good idea on how well your PCB takes care of your Micro.
Always check, and if necessary, reset your hardware configs during runtime! Those "all of the sudden it started acting up, so I turned it off and back on again and it was fine" problems just disappear!
I still remember the time my CON_0 register read 8! Although I'm sure it'll happen again, you'll never notice it!
Too many of the damn things, and you end up buying your jeans from the thrift store.
I've got way more old phones than I have good pairs of jeans, and I kinda like it like that.
Never tried this though, perhaps I could get insurance from JC Pennys like I do Sprint. Then when my jeans won't zip, or I rip the knee, I could just piss them, and bring them in for the latest model too:)
If I can use 2 magic numbers to increase software reliability, why can't they?
If this 1/65535 chance of random error causing correct value didn't happen, AND all configs are still still correct, AND the program counter has not fallen into one of the many traps that would keep it from getting here on its own, AND The stack pointer is where it should be based on how I think I can only get here, AND the second 1/65535 chance of random error causing correct values ALL didn't happen, AND this is my Nth time trying this exact same thing without success, THEN DO whatever.
ELSE determine WTF is wrong piece by piece, and report the failure before attempting to work around it.
Never let it blindly execute a subroutine just because that's where the program counter is! You have to know that when something executes, that it really should execute to prevent bad from becoming really really bad.
The normal what to do, is the easy (20%) part, the should I do it, and what if I can't, is what makes a system reliable.
If your bootloader is at the end of your program space, it better not execute just because the program counter got there!
My friend brought one of my unlocked Audiovox SMTs into AT&T to get service, and I told them to make sure that they received a discount for bringing their own phone. AT&T did knock $15.00 a month off the normal price for a (standard talk text mms) plan, but they said they had to sign a 2 year contract to get that price!
That's a great idea if anyone could easily download the full games from the companies website. Like when the cable company gives you free HBO for a week hoping you'll buy it.
Leave everyone who wants to try it try the whole game. It might drive the hardcore players away during that time though, unless they enjoyed sniping newbs for hours on end:). You'd almost have to run a different server as it would totally screw with the achievements.
I wonder what (insert big music biz name here) would have said to the junior executive that dared bring up the thought of $10 digital album downloads or $1 single track downloads ten years ago.
You know there's gotta be a few ITYSs out there, although their most likely working elsewhere by now.
Bitching at the bar about getting fired for coming up with iTunes.
My friend downloaded a cracked and pirated copy of angry birds, and he liked it so much (as did his wife) that they both purchased the full copy of the game. He sent it to me, and I purchased it also (having tried the free version and went Meh...) but probably would not have, had I not gotten a chance to see all of the levels, and really appreciate the game!
Probably 75 percent of the games that I have ever purchased, I have played a pirated version first not the demo. Especially when you can get all of the levels or vehicles unlocked and use all of the different weapons and just give it a good run through to be sure it's really worth having.
If it's not worth buying, it's not worth keeping the pirated version around either!
As well as being compensated for anything damaged or unrecoverable.
Just went through that whole mess. There is a whole list of things you can ask for back as a victim / witness, if they are unrecoverable (used for evidence, or destroyed in testing for evidence, or otherwise lost or damaged ) you submit a claim for the cost of replacements.
You have to fill out a Victim Restitution Form as part of your Victim Impact Statement. This is provided by the prosecution, and added to the defendants charges.
So it sounds to me like they will conveniently add your losses to the charges against MU. If they cannot afford to pay, the state and fed governments have money set aside to help reimburse you, but somehow I just see it added to MU's bill.
Not in the safe, but in my box o goodies. Too bad you couldn't buy a good one for the last 10 years or so. Mine is fairly new, but I've seen plenty of them die under very light use. Just don't build them the same when you don't run them for 6 hours straight installing the OS from 49 different disks:)
I did try reading them in my old DOS box, and they still worked! I copied them into my circle of backups so I have the data in more than one place now!
The gifted kids getting to spend extra (un-monitored) time in the computer lab was a great idea. We were the only ones that could make it work anyways.
With practically no one having a computer, much less a clue how to use it, the teachers needed input on how to incorporate them into a class, so they let us have our way with it, to figure out what a student could do with it. Which lessons were fun, any thoughts on what a 6th grade kid could put in a database. How come this won't save. We were middle school IT department #1.
They gave us access to all the documentation, even the teachers editions to help figure out how it all worked. Networked Apple ][ GS with the school server and Appletalk network.
One of the girls came up with a diary, so part of what everyone did for computer class was keep a diary on your floppy disk, and we used to copy them over appletalk after the class would start working on something else:)
Miss Irene, My floppy drive is running, oh it stopped, never mind.
Thank goodness we RTFM and knew everything our new computer lab could do, and were given a few hours a day access to it with no one but ourselves to watch us.
Ahhh The Memories... Of my entire middle school, still on a floppy in my firesafe! In a database:)
The (stolen with our source code and now quite useless but we'll still try to make them sound like their secure and somehow useful) encryption details...
The condos I used to live in came with free cable and Internet. When I called TWC to ask how to connect to the Internet, they told me to use the cable modem that was installed. When I said there was none, and after two weeks screwing around on the phone, I went into the local office, and asked there. She went through the billing, and found the old modem, and called someone and told them the old numbers, and gave me a new one. When I asked if they were using that modem to get free Internet at a different location, she laughed and said only for about 5 years now, but that will stop soon, as soon as they located which house it was in!
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I'd be worried that it was not even refurbished, but connected up, and it seemed to work properly, so they just reboxed it, and off it went to Newegg. Especially if the manufacturer of the drive has ever had a firmware update for it. Many times the refurb will look at the problem, and try to decide if it was hardware or software related, and if they decide software, then reflash it, and move on to the next one in the pile (hello smartphones).
If you look closely at it, does it show any differences compared to the other two? Warranty Void stickers, screw head marks, screw torque, anything that might indicate it was handled with a different process than the other two you have?
It sounds like it doesn't have the same diag partition as the others, how was it verified?
I'd ask for a new one, and not stop asking til it is the same as the other two.
Cheers
ON ERROR:
JMP Reset
Is the absolute worst way to keep a program running:)
I asked one of the main AVR designers from Norway if it was ok to set a configuration, or a constant in RAM during initialization and trust with 100% certainty that it would not change during operation. He said that even on the worlds cleanest power supply, and absent the presence of any EMI, he would still NOT recommend it.
If you run 10 AVRs for 1000 hours you will see bits flipped. Many times it only effects a RAM variable that is constantly being recalculated anyways, so it causes little if any disruption to the operation of the device.
It really sucks when its something critical like a timer counter control register.
If anyone would like to duplicate my testing, I'd be glad to send code, but all you have to do is set everything to a known value, and then read it over and over til it changes. It doesn't take as long as you think (or hoped) it would! It also gives you a good idea on how well your PCB takes care of your Micro.
Always check, and if necessary, reset your hardware configs during runtime! Those "all of the sudden it started acting up, so I turned it off and back on again and it was fine" problems just disappear!
I still remember the time my CON_0 register read 8! Although I'm sure it'll happen again, you'll never notice it!
Cheers
Too many of the damn things, and you end up buying your jeans from the thrift store.
I've got way more old phones than I have good pairs of jeans, and I kinda like it like that.
Never tried this though, perhaps I could get insurance from JC Pennys like I do Sprint. Then when my jeans won't zip, or I rip the knee, I could just piss them, and bring them in for the latest model too:)
I remember how fast my first Sprint phone would eat the battery up on analog roam, or when searching for a signal. Same thing here.
Nothing new.
Just so there's no more comments by shampoo!
If I can use 2 magic numbers to increase software reliability, why can't they?
If this 1/65535 chance of random error causing correct value didn't happen, AND all configs are still still correct, AND the program counter has not fallen into one of the many traps that would keep it from getting here on its own, AND The stack pointer is where it should be based on how I think I can only get here, AND the second 1/65535 chance of random error causing correct values ALL didn't happen, AND this is my Nth time trying this exact same thing without success, THEN DO whatever.
ELSE determine WTF is wrong piece by piece, and report the failure before attempting to work around it.
Never let it blindly execute a subroutine just because that's where the program counter is! You have to know that when something executes, that it really should execute to prevent bad from becoming really really bad.
The normal what to do, is the easy (20%) part, the should I do it, and what if I can't, is what makes a system reliable.
If your bootloader is at the end of your program space, it better not execute just because the program counter got there!
Cheers
Does that C&C lathe play CNC Music Factory
Or is it a...
Command and conquer lathe controller?
I'm not vicious or malicious, just lovely and delicious. OSLT.
Cheers!
Just curious if one side always has to be connected to ground?
Cheers!
My friend brought one of my unlocked Audiovox SMTs into AT&T to get service, and I told them to make sure that they received a discount for bringing their own phone. AT&T did knock $15.00 a month off the normal price for a (standard talk text mms) plan, but they said they had to sign a 2 year contract to get that price!
Cheers!
That's a great idea if anyone could easily download the full games from the companies website. Like when the cable company gives you free HBO for a week hoping you'll buy it.
Leave everyone who wants to try it try the whole game. It might drive the hardcore players away during that time though, unless they enjoyed sniping newbs for hours on end:). You'd almost have to run a different server as it would totally screw with the achievements.
Cheers
AKA the what's all the fuss about all those nines guy!
Cheers!
two minit... twenty dolla...
I wonder what (insert big music biz name here) would have said to the junior executive that dared bring up the thought of $10 digital album downloads or $1 single track downloads ten years ago.
You know there's gotta be a few ITYSs out there, although their most likely working elsewhere by now.
Bitching at the bar about getting fired for coming up with iTunes.
Cheers!
My friend downloaded a cracked and pirated copy of angry birds, and he liked it so much (as did his wife) that they both purchased the full copy of the game. He sent it to me, and I purchased it also (having tried the free version and went Meh...) but probably would not have, had I not gotten a chance to see all of the levels, and really appreciate the game!
Probably 75 percent of the games that I have ever purchased, I have played a pirated version first not the demo. Especially when you can get all of the levels or vehicles unlocked and use all of the different weapons and just give it a good run through to be sure it's really worth having.
If it's not worth buying, it's not worth keeping the pirated version around either!
Cheers:)
As well as being compensated for anything damaged or unrecoverable.
Just went through that whole mess. There is a whole list of things you can ask for back as a victim / witness, if they are unrecoverable (used for evidence, or destroyed in testing for evidence, or otherwise lost or damaged ) you submit a claim for the cost of replacements.
You have to fill out a Victim Restitution Form as part of your Victim Impact Statement. This is provided by the prosecution, and added to the defendants charges.
So it sounds to me like they will conveniently add your losses to the charges against MU. If they cannot afford to pay, the state and fed governments have money set aside to help reimburse you, but somehow I just see it added to MU's bill.
IANAL and such
Just Another Victim...
Cheers
Not in the safe, but in my box o goodies. Too bad you couldn't buy a good one for the last 10 years or so. Mine is fairly new, but I've seen plenty of them die under very light use. Just don't build them the same when you don't run them for 6 hours straight installing the OS from 49 different disks:)
I did try reading them in my old DOS box, and they still worked! I copied them into my circle of backups so I have the data in more than one place now!
Cheers
Is the ISS close enough to the earth to be protected somewhat by Earth's magnetic field? How do they get away with it?
Cheers!
I thought you Time Qantas with koala bears, or you CAN...
That date seems about right...
I can't get off your lawn good sir, it seems your lawn's long gone, quite sure...
The gifted kids getting to spend extra (un-monitored) time in the computer lab was a great idea. We were the only ones that could make it work anyways.
With practically no one having a computer, much less a clue how to use it, the teachers needed input on how to incorporate them into a class, so they let us have our way with it, to figure out what a student could do with it. Which lessons were fun, any thoughts on what a 6th grade kid could put in a database. How come this won't save. We were middle school IT department #1.
They gave us access to all the documentation, even the teachers editions to help figure out how it all worked. Networked Apple ][ GS with the school server and Appletalk network.
One of the girls came up with a diary, so part of what everyone did for computer class was keep a diary on your floppy disk, and we used to copy them over appletalk after the class would start working on something else:)
Miss Irene, My floppy drive is running, oh it stopped, never mind.
Thank goodness we RTFM and knew everything our new computer lab could do, and were given a few hours a day access to it with no one but ourselves to watch us.
Ahhh The Memories...
Of my entire middle school, still on a floppy in my firesafe! In a database:)
Which reunion will I bust that out at:)
Cheers!
Maybe they build a mesh network! That's why they drop 1000.
The (stolen with our source code and now quite useless but we'll still try to make them sound like their secure and somehow useful) encryption details...
FTFS
Cheers
The condos I used to live in came with free cable and Internet. When I called TWC to ask how to connect to the Internet, they told me to use the cable modem that was installed. When I said there was none, and after two weeks screwing around on the phone, I went into the local office, and asked there. She went through the billing, and found the old modem, and called someone and told them the old numbers, and gave me a new one. When I asked if they were using that modem to get free Internet at a different location, she laughed and said only for about 5 years now, but that will stop soon, as soon as they located which house it was in!
Cheers
That looks like one heavy_mother_fucker to send to another planet!
Big 4 inch (sorry 100 mm) thick steel body, sent up in an uber reinforced giant soup kettle on skids.
WOW!