and I've been through the actual development of the idea and worked out all the wrong ways to do it. Think all it takes to take me on is an idea? Have fun with that.
reminds me when Soviets got hold of a B-29 returning from mission over Japan that had to make emergency landing in USSR. Stalin ordered engineers to make a copy of it which became the Tu4 (I think, too lazy to look up designation). It was virtual copy but Soviets had to deal with and solve development problems Boeing had with B29 i.e. engine cooling (interesting program on History Channel when they used to show history). There is also what kinds of special tools and systems you got in your place the other guy doesn't have.
It seems some are in denial, example is "liberal" Hollywood like GOP keep insisting white people center of focus. I don't track movies but someone mentioned on PBS News Hour that 90% of leading actors of major motion pictures are white guys (there are many other ethnic groups out there but much of Hollywood and Madison Ave doesn't know they exist). Other example, "Real Housewives of Orange County [CA]" are all white (amazing, I only see hispanic and asians in Orange County). And when do white people see black people? Many do not except on TV either as a sports star, entertainer, or getting dragged off to jail. Some exceptions such as the President or Neil deGrasse Tyson. Yes, it gets scary posting topics like this, mentioning the R word can get your ass flamed.
Well here's my SV story from the 20th century at Memorex flexible disk plant in 1979. I worked there for three months, little more than minimum wage, not bad as living expenses were not high like they are now. This was at Central Expwy and San Tomas (I think) in Santa Clara, right there in Silicon Valley when this place was rockin. Rest of country may have been in the gutter in 1979. Lots of places hiring, assemblers hired with no experience necessary. My first job was to insert a 5.25 cover (with no disk) into a machine that stamps out holes, this cover was then passed over to someone else that inserted the flexible disk. I worked swing shift, normally could stamp about 9000, one night on a roll I got up to 10,000 stamped well had a larger number of botches...
Magnetic medium came in large rolls, about 9 inches or 6 inches wide from "The Tape Plant" which flexible disks were stamped from, circular disks were then burnished. Covers were made from black material pressed with white soft cloth with a heat stamp. Covers were folded in half and given to me to stamp out the holes for the recording heads to make contact with magnetic medium. Plant was 3-shift operation. Later on I did a few other things but overall it was boring.
One particular thing I most remembered is this 2-story building had the sales and marketing upstairs (they only worked day shift), all these people upstairs were all tall, thin, and beautiful. Everyone below were all short, fat, and ugly. However there was one lady that worked grave shift, nice looking and she wore tons of makeup. Not sure why at this time of night but she was quite attractive.
One time when demand for flexible disks was high and Memorex pressed to deliver more (customer was a computer company, I forgot who). Disks were burnished they were inspected for blemishes in the magnetic material, too many blemishes they were placed in a rejected pile (which actually was quite a large quantity). Because of demand, they pulled these out and we took a second look, "well this one doesn't look too bad" and proceeded to make a final product (which finished disks are individually tested for write/read). I asked the boss if this computer company knows we are "recycling" from reject pile, he said, "None of their concern!"
One night when someone working the machine that presses white cloth to the black material, he saw a spider, grabbed it, and put it between the white cloth and black material and fed into the heat press. Somewhere there is a Memorex 8-inch floppy with a squished spider inside.
Some states have removed this combo from regular plates though I've seen it here and there. One particular story was a child says to grandmother, "hey, you got WTF on your license plates! HAHAHAHAHA!!!" Older lady had no clue what her grandkid was talking about so she does a search on the internet. She then went to the motor vehicle dept and requested new plates.
some PDFs (presentation slides) on Silicon Valley history: http://ewh.ieee.org/soc/cpmt/presentations/cpmt1209a.pdf "The Origins of Silicon Valley: Why and How It Happened Here" Paul Wesling, IEEE SFBA Council (3.5 MB PDF). One particular slide has , "Tube Shops’ Challenges Design around ~250 RCA triode patents – Enormously difficult task (Samsung vs Apple case)"
http://www.incose.org/sfbac/2011events/111108Presentation-50YearsInSpace_v5.pdf "The Global Triggers in the Birth, Growth, and Challenges of System Engineering in Space and Internet" by Sam Araki. This also shows influence of government spending on recon satellites and how it drove chip manufacturers.
<<Faced with adversity, he took the coward's way out.>> A coward would simply go along with it and rot in jail and come out a bitter old man.
It seems to me Aaron is one of those very few who are very brilliant and has point of view not many of us are aware of. I've not followed this case in detail, it seems the prosecutor was out for blood and Aaron faced with onslaught of DOJ on a grand scale (can be extremely scary for a young person), and having nobody to go to for advice (who can you do refer to when you are the smartest person). Was he bipolar or on the edge? Many bipolars are phenomenally brilliant but can't cope in a world of idiots.
This Aaron Swartz case is an example of this "War on Piracy" jihad getting way too extreme. A recent article (NPR or PBS) about no high level bankers went to jail over financial debacle. Too big to prosecute so they go after small fry.
And no, everyone else didn't get jack shit. Just look on your desk right now. You have what at one time would have been considered a supercomputer attached to a global network that you use to bitch about how exploited you are.
well let's see.... compare 2013 to 1963. In 2013, middle class people can own a "supercomputer." In 1963, middle class people can own a house. If had to choose,I prefer a house.
Probably because it is simple to remember like "Remember The Alamo!" even more than a century after it happened and many don't know it was all about.
Actually for me I have continual cyber war problems from sales and marketeers constantly trying to hack my computer. When I first fired up Zone Alarm, I saw all kinds of penetration attempts, a friend said those are from companies wanting to gather information to profile what kinds of products to sell. Then there is mischief like the Sony rootkit. God only knows what internet dangers are there besides enemy countries and malicious troublemakers.
Well, not sure if applicable but I just gotta post this (some years ago I copied this editorial from magazine, I typed up the content). So here you go with a blast from the past (and yet we hear this same argument since then).
Pending Radio Legislation
from the magazine Radio Age, July 1924
CONGRESS has adjourned without acting either way on pending radio legislation, according to the news dispatches from Washington.
Unless a special session is called, which does not seem likely at this time, radio will be untouched by legal attachments until next year, at least.
The two most important measures which were shelved by the adjournment of the well-meaning but unusually deliberative governmental bodies are the White Bill and the Dill Bill. The first proposes to establish governmental control over radio broadcasting, reception and perhaps the industry eventually. This bill, while not viciously attacked, did not go through because some representatives of the people wanted to know just why such a young and untried industry as radio should suffer the bonds of law so soon. Accordingly, it is unlikely that the White Bill will ever become a law -- so the fans may rest assured they will not be hindered for some time to come in that respect.
The Dill Bill is more far reaching in its scope. It is liberal and fair-minded. It asks that the copyright laws be amended so that copyrighted music can be broadcast without the payment of levies to the music publishers. Although this bill has been opposed at every step by huge organizations and moneyed interests, as well as several prominent music publishers, it was about to be passed with a fair majority when Congress adjourned.
There is still hope for the Dill Bill, then, and we hope that when it finally reaches the President's desk it will represent the result of a fair compromise between the broadcasters and the music publishers, in the interests of the fan who listens to broadcast music and helps the sale of the published article by buying the pieces he likes best.
Government legislation, we believe, appears to be the only means yet suggested which offers any kind of a solution to the bitter enmity between the broadcasters and the so-called music "trust."
Radio's recent jump to prominence in official circles such as Congress is only one indication of its growing importance. Big capital interests, legislators and public spirited citizens are realizing more and more that radio will some day control the destinies of our nation; and accordingly they are setting out to prevent its too sudden growth to an unwieldy influence. Quick government control, the legislators aver, will prevent radio from becoming a menace instead of the help and pleasure it should be.
In a measure these radio-legislators are right. Something must be done to prevent the air from becoming a bedlam of tangled wave lengths. Something must be done to prevent the ether from being clogged with propaganda and useless stuff that will discourage interest in the world's latest miracle.
If legislation works along those lines, it will be beneficial. But if it takes a political trend, this country will see a united uprising of righteously aroused fans -- lovers and promoters of the good in radio.
... there is no reason why 'ham radio' should be forced to stick to ancient technology for reasons of sheer regulatory inertia when it could be fertile ground for experimentation...
There are some hams that are experimenting with other modes besides AM, FM, SSB though amateur radio is an aging community (fewer young people than decades ago). But gotta be careful when promoting new modes such as digital. D-star is a digital mode that claims to be open source but it really is not (only Icom has D-star radios). Just like APCO-25 which they say is also open source. Both are except the vocoder, that's what you got to pay someone to use.
I second that. We see all kinds of improbable things but yet nothing of space aliens, bigfoot, etc. All that's new these days is better CGI along with crappier TV shows.
Actually we see "aliens" all the time (who else cooks your food, does landscaping, and mops the floors).
I do have a audio recording of Bigfoot, NORAD Western Area Defense Sector callword, someone recorded off 271.0 and posted an mp3 on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baymilcom. "Bigfoot" was giving squaks and vectors to a KC-135.
Talking with some Boeing guys from Seattle, I asked what is their take on lengthly delay of 787. They answered it was outsourcing many items which Boeing had to buy back some of these subcontractors to complete many subassemblies. They also said Boeing management admitted mistake in outsourcing too many items.
I wonder if 787 will be the last new airplane series Boeing will build. Likewise with the A380. From here on, it will all be stretched, re-engined or what not. It seems much of Boeing's infrastructure in Everett/Seattle has been dismantled, i.e. large foundry that built landing gear I heard was closed some years ago. 787 Wings were designed and built in Japan.
But then 787 has higher cabin pressure so you will not lack O2 those long flights (but then less cabin pressure gets you "ahead" when having a alcoholic drink). Did you know that the one pressurized air vehicle that had sea level pressure was the highest fastest flying of them all: Space Shuttle.
Nobody wants to hear how similar real candidates are. They want a football game.
Exactly as what Europeans perceive American politics and football. There are only two teams on a football game. There are only two parties on a national election. Team and political players gather in close circle to discuss their plan which spectators and voters don't know the specifics, but they can cheer them on as they race towards the goal but don't have much influence on the outcome of the game.
Watching TV just ain't right since they did away with interesting programs. I really don't give a rat's ass about resolution since movie channels repeat everything I've seen and channels like History and Discovery no longer show history or real science/engineering programs. That's my Gripe Of The Month.
You already have a room key tied to your credit card number, a pass with your name on it,
Just be sure that info of matching name with room number doesn't get outside Disney. These days hotel keys no longer have visible room numbers on them, to prevent someone burglarizing a room from a lost key.
On another RFID tinfoil hat concern, someone hacks your card and post on internet that you rode "It's a Small World" several times in a row (not that it's true but use it for blackmail).
Do they have proof of licensing from the auto makers for showing a VW bug or a Mustang?
I've seen programs, i.e. Mythbusters, fuzz out the nameplates of cars. In regards to studios such as Warner, I think they do want to open this can of worms. They seem to do more stuff with lawyers instead of stuff with writers and directors (actors go into politics) so whether it is beneficial or not, they will dive into copyright battles.
Hey, we now have car analogy such as what AC posted earlier: Ferrari Man and Toyota Boy. And a top 5 rated comment by paiute, "Working on the new Fantastic Four"
A discussion somewhere on http://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians someone said ever since Europeans drew border lines in Africa and the Middle East, there's been nothing but problems since. An oversimplified answer but generated lively discussion. Of course what I'd like to know is percentage of e-criminals of population compared to other countries. And........ a serious crime is Wall Street types bilking many of their life savings.
I'll believe in people settling Mars at about the same time I see people setting the Gobi Desert. The Gobi Desert is about a thousand times as hospitable as Mars and five hundred times cheaper and easier to reach. Nobody ever writes "Gobi Desert Opera" because, well, it's just kind of plonkingly obvious that there's no good reason to go there and live. It's ugly, it's inhospitable and there's no way to make it pay. Mars is just the same, really. We just romanticize it because it's so hard to reach.
They artificially manipulate their currency and sell goods at below market value which hinders the world's economy. I wonde how safe this train really is!
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and I've been through the actual development of the idea and worked out all the wrong ways to do it. Think all it takes to take me on is an idea? Have fun with that.
reminds me when Soviets got hold of a B-29 returning from mission over Japan that had to make emergency landing in USSR. Stalin ordered engineers to make a copy of it which became the Tu4 (I think, too lazy to look up designation). It was virtual copy but Soviets had to deal with and solve development problems Boeing had with B29 i.e. engine cooling (interesting program on History Channel when they used to show history). There is also what kinds of special tools and systems you got in your place the other guy doesn't have.
It seems some are in denial, example is "liberal" Hollywood like GOP keep insisting white people center of focus. I don't track movies but someone mentioned on PBS News Hour that 90% of leading actors of major motion pictures are white guys (there are many other ethnic groups out there but much of Hollywood and Madison Ave doesn't know they exist). Other example, "Real Housewives of Orange County [CA]" are all white (amazing, I only see hispanic and asians in Orange County). And when do white people see black people? Many do not except on TV either as a sports star, entertainer, or getting dragged off to jail. Some exceptions such as the President or Neil deGrasse Tyson. Yes, it gets scary posting topics like this, mentioning the R word can get your ass flamed.
Well here's my SV story from the 20th century at Memorex flexible disk plant in 1979. I worked there for three months, little more than minimum wage, not bad as living expenses were not high like they are now. This was at Central Expwy and San Tomas (I think) in Santa Clara, right there in Silicon Valley when this place was rockin. Rest of country may have been in the gutter in 1979. Lots of places hiring, assemblers hired with no experience necessary. My first job was to insert a 5.25 cover (with no disk) into a machine that stamps out holes, this cover was then passed over to someone else that inserted the flexible disk. I worked swing shift, normally could stamp about 9000, one night on a roll I got up to 10,000 stamped well had a larger number of botches...
Magnetic medium came in large rolls, about 9 inches or 6 inches wide from "The Tape Plant" which flexible disks were stamped from, circular disks were then burnished. Covers were made from black material pressed with white soft cloth with a heat stamp. Covers were folded in half and given to me to stamp out the holes for the recording heads to make contact with magnetic medium. Plant was 3-shift operation. Later on I did a few other things but overall it was boring.
One particular thing I most remembered is this 2-story building had the sales and marketing upstairs (they only worked day shift), all these people upstairs were all tall, thin, and beautiful. Everyone below were all short, fat, and ugly. However there was one lady that worked grave shift, nice looking and she wore tons of makeup. Not sure why at this time of night but she was quite attractive.
One time when demand for flexible disks was high and Memorex pressed to deliver more (customer was a computer company, I forgot who). Disks were burnished they were inspected for blemishes in the magnetic material, too many blemishes they were placed in a rejected pile (which actually was quite a large quantity). Because of demand, they pulled these out and we took a second look, "well this one doesn't look too bad" and proceeded to make a final product (which finished disks are individually tested for write/read). I asked the boss if this computer company knows we are "recycling" from reject pile, he said, "None of their concern!"
One night when someone working the machine that presses white cloth to the black material, he saw a spider, grabbed it, and put it between the white cloth and black material and fed into the heat press. Somewhere there is a Memorex 8-inch floppy with a squished spider inside.
Some states have removed this combo from regular plates though I've seen it here and there. One particular story was a child says to grandmother, "hey, you got WTF on your license plates! HAHAHAHAHA!!!" Older lady had no clue what her grandkid was talking about so she does a search on the internet. She then went to the motor vehicle dept and requested new plates.
some PDFs (presentation slides) on Silicon Valley history:
http://ewh.ieee.org/soc/cpmt/presentations/cpmt1209a.pdf "The Origins of Silicon Valley: Why and How It Happened Here" Paul Wesling, IEEE SFBA Council (3.5 MB PDF). One particular slide has , "Tube Shops’ Challenges Design around ~250 RCA triode patents – Enormously difficult task (Samsung vs Apple case)"
http://www.incose.org/sfbac/2011events/111108Presentation-50YearsInSpace_v5.pdf "The Global Triggers in the Birth, Growth, and Challenges of System Engineering in Space and Internet" by Sam Araki. This also shows influence of government spending on recon satellites and how it drove chip manufacturers.
About 2/3 of the prints we see have incompatible parts specified. About half are missing at least one important dimension such as length.
Wow, I thought I was the only one observing this... and people complain to me about being too nit-picky about details.
>This message will self destruct!
Kids these days. Should be "Good morning, Mr. Phelps."
but nobody under 40 knows what you are talking about.
<<Faced with adversity, he took the coward's way out.>> A coward would simply go along with it and rot in jail and come out a bitter old man.
It seems to me Aaron is one of those very few who are very brilliant and has point of view not many of us are aware of. I've not followed this case in detail, it seems the prosecutor was out for blood and Aaron faced with onslaught of DOJ on a grand scale (can be extremely scary for a young person), and having nobody to go to for advice (who can you do refer to when you are the smartest person). Was he bipolar or on the edge? Many bipolars are phenomenally brilliant but can't cope in a world of idiots.
This Aaron Swartz case is an example of this "War on Piracy" jihad getting way too extreme. A recent article (NPR or PBS) about no high level bankers went to jail over financial debacle. Too big to prosecute so they go after small fry.
And no, everyone else didn't get jack shit. Just look on your desk right now. You have what at one time would have been considered a supercomputer attached to a global network that you use to bitch about how exploited you are.
well let's see.... compare 2013 to 1963. In 2013, middle class people can own a "supercomputer." In 1963, middle class people can own a house. If had to choose,I prefer a house.
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So why do they continue to invoke this stuff?
Probably because it is simple to remember like "Remember The Alamo!" even more than a century after it happened and many don't know it was all about.
Actually for me I have continual cyber war problems from sales and marketeers constantly trying to hack my computer. When I first fired up Zone Alarm, I saw all kinds of penetration attempts, a friend said those are from companies wanting to gather information to profile what kinds of products to sell. Then there is mischief like the Sony rootkit. God only knows what internet dangers are there besides enemy countries and malicious troublemakers.
The prosecutors killed Swartz.
That is utterly moronic. The prosecutors just did their job.
Yes, they're simply following orders. (for those of you not familiar with 20th century history, look up Nuremberg Trial)
Well, not sure if applicable but I just gotta post this (some years ago I copied this editorial from magazine, I typed up the content). So here you go with a blast from the past (and yet we hear this same argument since then).
Pending Radio Legislation
from the magazine Radio Age, July 1924
CONGRESS has adjourned without acting either way on pending radio legislation, according to the news dispatches from Washington.
Unless a special session is called, which does not seem likely at this time, radio will be untouched by legal attachments until next year, at least.
The two most important measures which were shelved by the adjournment of the well-meaning but unusually deliberative governmental bodies are the White Bill and the Dill Bill. The first proposes to establish governmental control over radio broadcasting, reception and perhaps the industry eventually. This bill, while not viciously attacked, did not go through because some representatives of the people wanted to know just why such a young and untried industry as radio should suffer the bonds of law so soon. Accordingly, it is unlikely that the White Bill will ever become a law -- so the fans may rest assured they will not be hindered for some time to come in that respect.
The Dill Bill is more far reaching in its scope. It is liberal and fair-minded. It asks that the copyright laws be amended so that copyrighted music can be broadcast without the payment of levies to the music publishers. Although this bill has been opposed at every step by huge organizations and moneyed interests, as well as several prominent music publishers, it was about to be passed with a fair majority when Congress adjourned.
There is still hope for the Dill Bill, then, and we hope that when it finally reaches the President's desk it will represent the result of a fair compromise between the broadcasters and the music publishers, in the interests of the fan who listens to broadcast music and helps the sale of the published article by buying the pieces he likes best.
Government legislation, we believe, appears to be the only means yet suggested which offers any kind of a solution to the bitter enmity between the broadcasters and the so-called music "trust."
Radio's recent jump to prominence in official circles such as Congress is only one indication of its growing importance. Big capital interests, legislators and public spirited citizens are realizing more and more that radio will some day control the destinies of our nation; and accordingly they are setting out to prevent its too sudden growth to an unwieldy influence. Quick government control, the legislators aver, will prevent radio from becoming a menace instead of the help and pleasure it should be.
In a measure these radio-legislators are right. Something must be done to prevent the air from becoming a bedlam of tangled wave lengths. Something must be done to prevent the ether from being clogged with propaganda and useless stuff that will discourage interest in the world's latest miracle.
If legislation works along those lines, it will be beneficial. But if it takes a political trend, this country will see a united uprising of righteously aroused fans -- lovers and promoters of the good in radio.
... there is no reason why 'ham radio' should be forced to stick to ancient technology for reasons of sheer regulatory inertia when it could be fertile ground for experimentation...
There are some hams that are experimenting with other modes besides AM, FM, SSB though amateur radio is an aging community (fewer young people than decades ago). But gotta be careful when promoting new modes such as digital. D-star is a digital mode that claims to be open source but it really is not (only Icom has D-star radios). Just like APCO-25 which they say is also open source. Both are except the vocoder, that's what you got to pay someone to use.
every single prediction of the end of the world and humanity has been wrong.
Let us hope such predictions continue to be wrong. All it takes is just ONE to be right and then no more predictions are necessary.
I second that. We see all kinds of improbable things but yet nothing of space aliens, bigfoot, etc. All that's new these days is better CGI along with crappier TV shows.
Actually we see "aliens" all the time (who else cooks your food, does landscaping, and mops the floors).
I do have a audio recording of Bigfoot, NORAD Western Area Defense Sector callword, someone recorded off 271.0 and posted an mp3 on http://groups.yahoo.com/group/baymilcom. "Bigfoot" was giving squaks and vectors to a KC-135.
Talking with some Boeing guys from Seattle, I asked what is their take on lengthly delay of 787. They answered it was outsourcing many items which Boeing had to buy back some of these subcontractors to complete many subassemblies. They also said Boeing management admitted mistake in outsourcing too many items.
I wonder if 787 will be the last new airplane series Boeing will build. Likewise with the A380. From here on, it will all be stretched, re-engined or what not. It seems much of Boeing's infrastructure in Everett/Seattle has been dismantled, i.e. large foundry that built landing gear I heard was closed some years ago. 787 Wings were designed and built in Japan.
But then 787 has higher cabin pressure so you will not lack O2 those long flights (but then less cabin pressure gets you "ahead" when having a alcoholic drink). Did you know that the one pressurized air vehicle that had sea level pressure was the highest fastest flying of them all: Space Shuttle.
Nobody wants to hear how similar real candidates are. They want a football game.
Exactly as what Europeans perceive American politics and football. There are only two teams on a football game. There are only two parties on a national election. Team and political players gather in close circle to discuss their plan which spectators and voters don't know the specifics, but they can cheer them on as they race towards the goal but don't have much influence on the outcome of the game.
Watching TV just ain't right since they did away with interesting programs. I really don't give a rat's ass about resolution since movie channels repeat everything I've seen and channels like History and Discovery no longer show history or real science/engineering programs. That's my Gripe Of The Month.
You already have a room key tied to your credit card number, a pass with your name on it,
Just be sure that info of matching name with room number doesn't get outside Disney. These days hotel keys no longer have visible room numbers on them, to prevent someone burglarizing a room from a lost key.
On another RFID tinfoil hat concern, someone hacks your card and post on internet that you rode "It's a Small World" several times in a row (not that it's true but use it for blackmail).
Do they have proof of licensing from the auto makers for showing a VW bug or a Mustang?
I've seen programs, i.e. Mythbusters, fuzz out the nameplates of cars. In regards to studios such as Warner, I think they do want to open this can of worms. They seem to do more stuff with lawyers instead of stuff with writers and directors (actors go into politics) so whether it is beneficial or not, they will dive into copyright battles.
Hey, we now have car analogy such as what AC posted earlier: Ferrari Man and Toyota Boy. And a top 5 rated comment by paiute, "Working on the new Fantastic Four"
A discussion somewhere on http://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians someone said ever since Europeans drew border lines in Africa and the Middle East, there's been nothing but problems since. An oversimplified answer but generated lively discussion. Of course what I'd like to know is percentage of e-criminals of population compared to other countries. And........ a serious crime is Wall Street types bilking many of their life savings.
There is no escape. Dream all you want--write stories about it, make movies about it. But we ain't leaving.
I've been less optimistic about concepts of colonizing Mars, particularly after reading this retro future website, http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/macguffinite.php
I'll believe in people settling Mars at about the same time I see people setting the Gobi Desert. The Gobi Desert is about a thousand times as hospitable as Mars and five hundred times cheaper and easier to reach. Nobody ever writes "Gobi Desert Opera" because, well, it's just kind of plonkingly obvious that there's no good reason to go there and live. It's ugly, it's inhospitable and there's no way to make it pay. Mars is just the same, really. We just romanticize it because it's so hard to reach.
They artificially manipulate their currency and sell goods at below market value which hinders the world's economy. I wonde how safe this train really is!
Manipulating currency is not the problem, it is when USA and other countries sold to China (it was not stolen) the industrial capability to build things. See "Winner Take All" by Richard Elkus http://www.amazon.com/Winner-Take-All-Competitiveness-Nations/dp/B002KAOSPG
Anyway, argue what everyone is doing on this forum, China is building HSR instead PPT like rest of us.
Maybe they can use this,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45676693@N03/6959137824/