Ever since I attended a SETI forum and panel of scientists discussing life on other planets, Cynthia Phillips said when looking for life, "go where the water is." And there's lots more water on Europa than on Mars. There are many challenges of a lander, drilling into the ice, launching a submarine, etc. Radiation is intense (until you get into the ice), Europa is much farther away, it hasn't been mapped extensively like Mars, navigation, time delay, etc, etc. But I cannot stop imagining of a submarine cruising in the waters below the ice taking video and pics of the little fishies swimming about (if any). However, I think finding microbes or plankton would be very exciting.
last month at a flea market someone had a Commodore 64 for sale about $25. He also had a couple Apple ][ (about $100 each). I was very tempted, something interesting for a shrine of sorts. I didn't purchase as I got enough stuff as it is. Just wondering.
In 1990s NASA administrator Dan Goldin had a eradication program to rid the NASA worm. NASAwatch had a "worm watch" page to identify those worms that escaped eradication i.e. photo of visitor center on Mountain View phone book has object with the worm, and Hubble Space Telescope (oops, kinda hard to get rid of that). Occasionally the discussion comes back, http://nasawatch.com/archives/2009/03/worm-watch.html
Both true and false. yes, the special effects were terrible compared to nowadays and Shatner's ego tend to dominate everything. However, they had to rely on compelling stories (take a look at credits of screenplays, you will see some notable SF authors). They could not use CGI to make up for a bad plot though it seems these days it what they are doing, and it ain't working (who watches sci-fi channel these days?). One thing for sure it generated a whole genre and several movies and TV shows all based on a series made way back in the 20th century.
Maybe that is the problem, we keep looking back at the glory days of NASA and ST TOS, all in the days when things were made in USA.
We need to get to a point when we can have arguments of too many people putting things and people into space, keeping their hands off the ancient Apollo landing sites, and bitching about those idiots contaminating Mars and Europa with landers not properly sanitized. Or economists arguing about plummeting platinum prices because someone snagged an asteroid loaded with this stuff and dumping the markets. And chemists in a storm about all this extraterrestial material disorganizing values on the periodic table of elements. Ah yes, fun stuff......
>Turned out it was a B-2, and I didn't see it until it was almost on top of me
Sounds like it happened so fast, no time to get a pic. Similar situation for me in 1980s while driving on 395 north of Edwards AFB I heard this loud roar and first thinking it was my car (engine about to blow up? don't see any smoke and no red panel lights. Front suspension about to collapse? no, it felt fine). Then looking out my left window I saw a A-7 climbing away. I was targeted on a strafing run (they did a lot of testing of electronic targeting systems i.e. the square boxes around ground objects on the HUD). I didn't have a camera.
I'd love to find a ***real*** analysis of consumer electronics including cellphone use on commercial aircraft. A study done by FAA, FCC, and NASA to have objective report of interference and performance issues of avionics systems. Occasionally we get these third-hand stories of interference does happen/does not happen (sorry but forum posts are interesting but not something I will use for TSO). Or vague studies by a govt agency but subject to suspicion per "regulatory capture." A study done by a company or a university funded by a company is bankrupt, i.e. cellphone company does research saying EM has no longterm effects on human body (probably doesn't but a cellphone company will never fund research that will result in showing longterm damage from their product).
ITAR! Don't be surprised if some guvmint type issues this claim. I heard a cutaway illustration poster of Saturn V was removed from KSC visitor center per this reason. I don't know if it was urban legend or if cooler heads said it was ok to return it.
Along same theme owlnation commented, I was bitching the other day about how terrible TV programming has become. A friend said objective of networks and TV stations is to get your eyeballs glued to the screen, they are not concerned whether you really enjoy the programming or not because you are not the customer. If it's a bad show and you watch it, they've achieved their objective. However, he mentions increasing views of Netflix may disrupt this paradigm. If Kardashians shows were available for fee, i.e. $2 each, they probably would not get much business.
I watch a few channels via cable but my number of channels watched are getting smaller (I've noticed TCM has decreased variety of movies, they repeat frequently) and lots more interesting stuff on youtube: Documentaries from years ago, full length movies though Fast and Sexy with Gina Lollobrigida doesn't include first 15 minutes which she wears a beautiful Connie Francis type dress (so I guess youtube has "its" problems).
sorry I disagree, bad analogy. I can open the engine compartment of my car, do mods on the engine if I want. Many computer systems and virtually all software you cannot open. As EFF says, "If you can't open it, you don't own it." I avoid crashes by paying attention to my driving, I avoid computer crashes with important systems by not connecting them to the internet. Really, I have an XP that has been running for years without ***crashing*** but I have another I use for the internet (it crashes frequently).
That is what I was thinking with Benny Hill as the professor (techie who also is compusive p0rn addict) responsible for corrupting the traffic system. Lead job man played by Michael Caine recruits this guy by arranging couple "fun" girls for him.
it will only burden them with work and clunky things taking up space. ***every*** used computer I got had something missing (memory board, DLL files, or whatever) which rendered the system basically useless and a huge timepit. Except for a couple old computers I got, one from non-techie friend abandoned their XP for a Mac. And the other (Mac G3 and it still works great and has lots of programs) from a flea market which was a good seller of used computers but he no longer can be found. So these other useless old computers I had to dispose which can be a real pain. Unless you are the kind that always does recycling, such places can be hard to find. No, no, no... don't give me the suggestion 'google' to find sites because such usually charge you recycle fees or they are on other side of the city. Since then I only buy new computers because used systems there is always something missing from them (I don't know why they delete all the programs, remove memory boards, and also delete js, DLL and other such files in the system folder).
Therefore, giving old computers to charities is like dropping them a "time" bomb that will cause them to waste resources.
In a discussion I had with a friend the other day about how did Vikings navigate? Mostly poor weather (no star sightings) and very close to magnetic north pole (compass is useless), or they only traveled part of year when weather was not really bad. One story I heard is they used pressure as a means of navigation. Huh? don't ask me, that is what someone else said. But since that was 1000 years ago, that knowledge is lost so all we have is speculation. Interesting to consider What If... they continued further south and settled in sunny Florida?
In the book "From Vinland To Mars" published in 1970s it said many Scandinavian men were "landless sons" since first born son inherits the land, and there is not much farmable real estate in those areas. So these landless sons don't have much career opportunity except join the Viking Navy and plunder rest of Europe but there was also motivation to go west to find other places to settle.
If it is a govt publication, use "Space Settlements" (NASA SP-413). If it is a non-govt publication, OK to title "Space Colonies" (Stewart Brand). Colonies is a bad word for many third world countries, and in 1970s NASA didn't want to stir the pot on this.
The Harper Government has a hard-on for the F35 and the Canadian public really has no idea WHY.
I wonder if there's politics involved in same manner as Avro Arrow... yes a very distant analogy. I still wonder what if the Canucks went full production with a mach 3 fighter more than 50 years ago.
yep, SH flys now. F35 may be better but too expensive (many in DoD are having doubts). You all readers know what that's like, there is a much better car than what you are driving right now. How come you don't get it? Because you cannot afford it and you will never buy it. Stop making plans using something you will never get.
After dinner, can I go down below deck where the people really party instead of hanging out with bunch of stogy old men with port and cigars discussing the stock market?
It's been decades since these guys did coding, and back then they didn't have use exclusive platforms requiring register and EULAs and not worry about getting sued. OK so I've not coded in years... but it seems to me whenever IT issues like this arises... here comes another CISPA. Perhaps I'm getting OT but gotta deliver my gripe of the month.
I believe something of this sort occurred. I remember reading an article when "Wargames" was in theatres, a congressman complained he wanted a tour of NORAD but was refused (I know, doesn't make sense as they had public tours all the time back then). So he sees this movie with lots of computers and stuff, and complained, "how come USAF allowed them to film there when they won't let me in!" I also remembered one of the computer stores in Orange County, CA had a photo of NORAD from the movie on cover of their catalog (yeah, old memories from the 20th century when back when Nolan Bushnell was speaker for Engineers Week banquet in Silicon Valley Feb 1983). Speaking of movies, is someone working on one about Aaron Swartz?
In a discussion about shoulder mount ENG cameras (are we getting to a point if it's shoulder mount, is it regarded as old technology including new $40K Panasonic HD with P2?). Someone said he attends lots of concerts for free. He stops by the news station, gets a non-working camera and gains access as media (does not show a badge but it's the impressive camera that does it). And if his girlfriend wants to join, he gets a microphone for her. He said at one concert the security guard wanted to be interviewed. So they did a interview of him with a dead mic and camera. After that had the best "seats" at the concert.
Right now, I feel like we're in the period between the Michelson-Morley experiment and Einstein's Special Relativity.
What intrigues me is 1876 two guys were trying to figure out how fast Earth is moving through space in same period as cowboys and indians, kingdoms, and commoners working from sunup to sundown on slave wages. And for 1905, while Einstein working on new realm of physics, other scientists are fascinated with this new radioactive materials. I recall a photo from that time period showing table of dishes containing such material, one person bending down as if he is smelling this stuff, "wow, it continually gives off heat but never cools down like burning charcoal."
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Ever since I attended a SETI forum and panel of scientists discussing life on other planets, Cynthia Phillips said when looking for life, "go where the water is." And there's lots more water on Europa than on Mars. There are many challenges of a lander, drilling into the ice, launching a submarine, etc. Radiation is intense (until you get into the ice), Europa is much farther away, it hasn't been mapped extensively like Mars, navigation, time delay, etc, etc. But I cannot stop imagining of a submarine cruising in the waters below the ice taking video and pics of the little fishies swimming about (if any). However, I think finding microbes or plankton would be very exciting.
last month at a flea market someone had a Commodore 64 for sale about $25. He also had a couple Apple ][ (about $100 each). I was very tempted, something interesting for a shrine of sorts. I didn't purchase as I got enough stuff as it is. Just wondering.
In 1990s NASA administrator Dan Goldin had a eradication program to rid the NASA worm. NASAwatch had a "worm watch" page to identify those worms that escaped eradication i.e. photo of visitor center on Mountain View phone book has object with the worm, and Hubble Space Telescope (oops, kinda hard to get rid of that). Occasionally the discussion comes back, http://nasawatch.com/archives/2009/03/worm-watch.html
TOS was terrible.
Both true and false. yes, the special effects were terrible compared to nowadays and Shatner's ego tend to dominate everything. However, they had to rely on compelling stories (take a look at credits of screenplays, you will see some notable SF authors). They could not use CGI to make up for a bad plot though it seems these days it what they are doing, and it ain't working (who watches sci-fi channel these days?). One thing for sure it generated a whole genre and several movies and TV shows all based on a series made way back in the 20th century.
Maybe that is the problem, we keep looking back at the glory days of NASA and ST TOS, all in the days when things were made in USA.
We need to get to a point when we can have arguments of too many people putting things and people into space, keeping their hands off the ancient Apollo landing sites, and bitching about those idiots contaminating Mars and Europa with landers not properly sanitized. Or economists arguing about plummeting platinum prices because someone snagged an asteroid loaded with this stuff and dumping the markets. And chemists in a storm about all this extraterrestial material disorganizing values on the periodic table of elements. Ah yes, fun stuff......
>Turned out it was a B-2, and I didn't see it until it was almost on top of me
Sounds like it happened so fast, no time to get a pic. Similar situation for me in 1980s while driving on 395 north of Edwards AFB I heard this loud roar and first thinking it was my car (engine about to blow up? don't see any smoke and no red panel lights. Front suspension about to collapse? no, it felt fine). Then looking out my left window I saw a A-7 climbing away. I was targeted on a strafing run (they did a lot of testing of electronic targeting systems i.e. the square boxes around ground objects on the HUD). I didn't have a camera.
I'd love to find a ***real*** analysis of consumer electronics including cellphone use on commercial aircraft. A study done by FAA, FCC, and NASA to have objective report of interference and performance issues of avionics systems. Occasionally we get these third-hand stories of interference does happen/does not happen (sorry but forum posts are interesting but not something I will use for TSO). Or vague studies by a govt agency but subject to suspicion per "regulatory capture." A study done by a company or a university funded by a company is bankrupt, i.e. cellphone company does research saying EM has no longterm effects on human body (probably doesn't but a cellphone company will never fund research that will result in showing longterm damage from their product).
ITAR! Don't be surprised if some guvmint type issues this claim. I heard a cutaway illustration poster of Saturn V was removed from KSC visitor center per this reason. I don't know if it was urban legend or if cooler heads said it was ok to return it.
Along same theme owlnation commented, I was bitching the other day about how terrible TV programming has become. A friend said objective of networks and TV stations is to get your eyeballs glued to the screen, they are not concerned whether you really enjoy the programming or not because you are not the customer. If it's a bad show and you watch it, they've achieved their objective. However, he mentions increasing views of Netflix may disrupt this paradigm. If Kardashians shows were available for fee, i.e. $2 each, they probably would not get much business.
I watch a few channels via cable but my number of channels watched are getting smaller (I've noticed TCM has decreased variety of movies, they repeat frequently) and lots more interesting stuff on youtube: Documentaries from years ago, full length movies though Fast and Sexy with Gina Lollobrigida doesn't include first 15 minutes which she wears a beautiful Connie Francis type dress (so I guess youtube has "its" problems).
sorry I disagree, bad analogy. I can open the engine compartment of my car, do mods on the engine if I want. Many computer systems and virtually all software you cannot open. As EFF says, "If you can't open it, you don't own it." I avoid crashes by paying attention to my driving, I avoid computer crashes with important systems by not connecting them to the internet. Really, I have an XP that has been running for years without ***crashing*** but I have another I use for the internet (it crashes frequently).
What about the original The Italian Job?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064505/?ref_=sr_2
That is what I was thinking with Benny Hill as the professor (techie who also is compusive p0rn addict) responsible for corrupting the traffic system. Lead job man played by Michael Caine recruits this guy by arranging couple "fun" girls for him.
it will only burden them with work and clunky things taking up space. ***every*** used computer I got had something missing (memory board, DLL files, or whatever) which rendered the system basically useless and a huge timepit. Except for a couple old computers I got, one from non-techie friend abandoned their XP for a Mac. And the other (Mac G3 and it still works great and has lots of programs) from a flea market which was a good seller of used computers but he no longer can be found. So these other useless old computers I had to dispose which can be a real pain. Unless you are the kind that always does recycling, such places can be hard to find. No, no, no... don't give me the suggestion 'google' to find sites because such usually charge you recycle fees or they are on other side of the city. Since then I only buy new computers because used systems there is always something missing from them (I don't know why they delete all the programs, remove memory boards, and also delete js, DLL and other such files in the system folder).
Therefore, giving old computers to charities is like dropping them a "time" bomb that will cause them to waste resources.
I hate having to deal with Windows date/time set and thinking (is it 7 or 8 hours?) PDT/UTC differences twice a year.
Great quote, I'd mod you up but I already posted to this forum.
Not that old Norse religion was anything to be particularly happy about mind you.
but then their religion has exciting characters you can use for comic books, i.e. Thor.
In a discussion I had with a friend the other day about how did Vikings navigate? Mostly poor weather (no star sightings) and very close to magnetic north pole (compass is useless), or they only traveled part of year when weather was not really bad. One story I heard is they used pressure as a means of navigation. Huh? don't ask me, that is what someone else said. But since that was 1000 years ago, that knowledge is lost so all we have is speculation. Interesting to consider What If... they continued further south and settled in sunny Florida?
In the book "From Vinland To Mars" published in 1970s it said many Scandinavian men were "landless sons" since first born son inherits the land, and there is not much farmable real estate in those areas. So these landless sons don't have much career opportunity except join the Viking Navy and plunder rest of Europe but there was also motivation to go west to find other places to settle.
If it is a govt publication, use "Space Settlements" (NASA SP-413). If it is a non-govt publication, OK to title "Space Colonies" (Stewart Brand). Colonies is a bad word for many third world countries, and in 1970s NASA didn't want to stir the pot on this.
Artwork (big Mb files, great for posters) at http://settlement.arc.nasa.gov/70sArtHiRes/70sArt/art.html (including vintage 1970s rogallo hang-glider. Oops, that C word appears)
NASA SP-413 at http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19770014162_1977014162.pdf
Space Colonies (A Coevolution Book) at http://www.amazon.com/Space-Colonies-A-Coevolution-Book/dp/0140048057/
The Harper Government has a hard-on for the F35 and the Canadian public really has no idea WHY.
I wonder if there's politics involved in same manner as Avro Arrow... yes a very distant analogy. I still wonder what if the Canucks went full production with a mach 3 fighter more than 50 years ago.
F-16 from General Dynamics ... FA-18 ... McDonnel Douglas
hey! you are the only one here that addressed the actual names of actual companies that designed and built these planes.
yep, SH flys now. F35 may be better but too expensive (many in DoD are having doubts). You all readers know what that's like, there is a much better car than what you are driving right now. How come you don't get it? Because you cannot afford it and you will never buy it. Stop making plans using something you will never get.
After dinner, can I go down below deck where the people really party instead of hanging out with bunch of stogy old men with port and cigars discussing the stock market?
It's been decades since these guys did coding, and back then they didn't have use exclusive platforms requiring register and EULAs and not worry about getting sued. OK so I've not coded in years... but it seems to me whenever IT issues like this arises... here comes another CISPA. Perhaps I'm getting OT but gotta deliver my gripe of the month.
I believe something of this sort occurred. I remember reading an article when "Wargames" was in theatres, a congressman complained he wanted a tour of NORAD but was refused (I know, doesn't make sense as they had public tours all the time back then). So he sees this movie with lots of computers and stuff, and complained, "how come USAF allowed them to film there when they won't let me in!" I also remembered one of the computer stores in Orange County, CA had a photo of NORAD from the movie on cover of their catalog (yeah, old memories from the 20th century when back when Nolan Bushnell was speaker for Engineers Week banquet in Silicon Valley Feb 1983). Speaking of movies, is someone working on one about Aaron Swartz?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/45676693@N03/6959137824/
In a discussion about shoulder mount ENG cameras (are we getting to a point if it's shoulder mount, is it regarded as old technology including new $40K Panasonic HD with P2?). Someone said he attends lots of concerts for free. He stops by the news station, gets a non-working camera and gains access as media (does not show a badge but it's the impressive camera that does it). And if his girlfriend wants to join, he gets a microphone for her. He said at one concert the security guard wanted to be interviewed. So they did a interview of him with a dead mic and camera. After that had the best "seats" at the concert.
Right now, I feel like we're in the period between the Michelson-Morley experiment and Einstein's Special Relativity.
What intrigues me is 1876 two guys were trying to figure out how fast Earth is moving through space in same period as cowboys and indians, kingdoms, and commoners working from sunup to sundown on slave wages. And for 1905, while Einstein working on new realm of physics, other scientists are fascinated with this new radioactive materials. I recall a photo from that time period showing table of dishes containing such material, one person bending down as if he is smelling this stuff, "wow, it continually gives off heat but never cools down like burning charcoal."