I must say, I was envisioning disaster when contemplating a world with driving controlled by systems created by humans who arent there to react to unaccounted conditions. You make a bloody excellent point though. The fact that a significant enough percentage of drivers really should NOT be driving would make this a great opportunity. Make it either Opt-In or by Court Order to have to use such automation, and it looks better and better.
I still would have to be VERY VERY sure of the system and see it tested out the wazoo before I would ever consider getting in one. I don't trust a team of EE and SE specialists to think of all the possible reactions they would need coded in for outlier situations. Even an autopilot for an airplane doesnt have to worry about falling trees, landslides, or elk...unless its a REALLY REALLY bad day at least...
That's because the idea of granting it is patently ridiculous Granted...but
the U.S. Patent Office has revoked Live Nation's patent Obliviously, Someone should have mentioned that to the PTO before they did originally then.
That little link to read the complaint actually includes rather shocking detail concerning how blatant SAP's misuse of the logins they used was. Not to mention the fact that they HAD to know they were leaving fingerprints left right and center, for example with one login they had downloaded 1800 distinct packages over 4 days, where the original user of the login was logging usage around 20 downloads per month.
I'm sure they are aware of this, but when losing market share to a competitor yelling "they arent an equivalent good!" is as good a way as any to keep the shareholders in line (assuming they arent too attentive =)).
What I really do not understand is this mentality that its a bad thing for an influx of immigrant labour IN ONES OWN COUNTRY. If someone is willing to do the work for however much less, while living in the same region, then obviously the higher wage position is overvalued to begin with. Note: while living in the same region, meaning same cost of living concerns.
The biggest concern I have these days with the north american labour force is this default attitude that we DESERVE more for less. The number of people making more for their position than their skills warrant (not necessarily than the position warrants) is abysmal here.
Sadly theres no fast solution here, anything that would fix the current state quickly would cause too much initial strife. Slow changes would be shot down; Imagine how up in arms people get when a company suggests an inability to have raises in a fiscal year, regardless of the logic behind it.
I really do not see a solution to these issues that wont simply be forced upon us by reality as more and more motivated and skilled workers elsewhere stop coming here and decide they can set up shop as easily back home.
Unfortunately this is turkey for you. Oh don't be too hard on the turks, thats pretty much a percentage of humanity in general beyond turkey alone. There are those pushing similar agendas in many other countries; The only difference being that many nations had people in power previously who ensured that it is difficult to convert their democracy into an autocracy or oligarchy. Sadly, after Kemal centralized the government in Turkey, his successors found it very EASY to turn into such a state.
Fundamentalists and extremists exist everywhere; All WE notice is where they've become vocal enough to notice. Sadly if the rest of us are to have any freedom, they must have the freedom to spout their crap as well. It's a question on whether their hands are also on the reins.
Not particularly, if the US movie industry did not exist, some other entity would fill the void concerning promoting new films. Filmmakers of course are certainly NOT going to stop making films as long as there are people who want to watch them, and the current movie industry is NOT essential to that process (please note that i do not say not USEFUL, they are merely not essential, especially since the costs for high-end effects and production are becoming less prohibitive all the time).
If the US movie industry went belly up, there would still be people who want to film around our scenery.
Your situation is basically the exact intent of most of the canadian mobile telcos for sure. New customers are much higher value to the company, and so are able to get significantly higher rebates. Its a black and white case, but they cant exactly say it that way to the customer.
Funny thing is, those reprogrammings and "number migrations" costs maybe 5 minutes of a 10-24$ an hour wage slaves time to do; Literally (the wage difference depending on subcontractors versus union shops).
However, its a difficult situation with mobile telcos. There was a huge capital investment to get the networks up to begin with, as well as maintenance and R&D costs that arent exactly apparent in terms of costing "minutes" or other per-usage metrics. This means no one really knows what the value IS, so they pick what the market will bear. I would be seriously interested to know what kind of profit margins they actually see for these types of administrative changes, but its definitely a way to recoup unrelated costs to keep their price per-usage as low as the current competition.
Bottom line is this: new customers ARE more valuable to them and they know it. If you want to see serious service, suggest DEACTIVATING at the end of your contract and you'll see where there interest lie. If you get a better offer then they give a crap about you, if you hear the same song and dance you just arent "worth it" in their eyes.
With regards to the article, it definitely makes no sense in this case as there isnt much in terms of lock-in protection from these companies. Being able to import your previous settings appears to be about it as opposed to people having to advise their contacts of a new cellular number or long term contract charges and such with telcos.
We humans are a pretty sad and sorry bunch sometimes.
Bono questioned if his idea would prevent mass stealing of copyright materials. "Is that not the equivalent of having a speed limit but not enforcing the speed limit?" she asked. [...] "What is the enforcement for speeding?" he said. "The enforcement for is not that the car grinds to a halt. [Instead of DRM] I'm inclined to make software to allow people to do the right thing first." Why on earth did he choose to turn aside that argument in lieu of taking it head on? This is an EXCELLENT analogy to turn to his own uses imo. Speed limits in almost any country I know of seem to have a good 10 units of measure (km/h or mp/h) leeway it seems as to whether the speed limit is enforced or not. This seems to me to be an excellent analogy to the black and white way the **AA's attempt to enforce the DRM rules currently versus the grey area that SHOULD exist with regards to fair use.
Can someone enlighten me as to why he would choose to avoid that point? Is there some precedent that makes this dangerous to his argument?
IANAL as per most such posts, but if one could point out why that analogy would have been a bad thing I'd love to know.
Caveat: widely accepted might be a bit of hyperbole. It certainly was at the call centers I have worked for, for two of our four major providers here in canada.
No tin-foil-hat brand for this one, Its widely accepted in canadian telecomm call centers (not mentioning any names) that this is EXACTLY the strategy behind most spam sms policies.
Verizon just realized you can push PR at the same time as double dipping as you say =)
In the case of telecomm, this is less of a joke than you would think as far as I see things.
The infamous step 3 in this case is "have competitors do exact same thing" so you have indirect collusion which leads to rotating customers back and forth. The company which repelled the client gets an LTCC out of many cases, while the competitor gets a "new business" metric. All they have to do then is delay their deactivations enough that new activations outweigh them so they appear to be flourishing.
It seems to be quite the trend in north american telecom business models it seems to inflate growth figures for their investors.
Think crop rotation and I think you'll get the gist of it.
Despite the context of immigration increasing health care costs etc, as well as the inflammatory edge to the comment, the parent actually makes a really good point.
I fail to see how this is at all a troll OR a flamebait. Obviously, scientific investment is necessary for ANY nation that doesnt want to be left behind in the increasingly "near" futures, but how DO you propose balancing the need for theoretical advancement versus direct advancement of your populace by investing more in health care programs and the like?
I am not against scientific research investment, quite the opposite, but that does NOT change the fact that there is only a finite amount of resources to go around.
I'm sure if the parent had posted his point in a thread concerning declining health care budgets, he'd be modded insightful, however inflammatory. Mod points are NOT meant to be used to disagree with someone (yes yes, this IS slashdot..)
I actually expect this to be Googles next move, once proof of concept is over. Offer subsidized educational rates for universities, universities do backflips, and whole generations of new professionals start out work with "Hey how come we dont use what we've been using these past years!" pressures being applied to IT departments.
Nothing innovative there for google (*cough*microsoft*cough*), but its still a solid strategy.
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I must say, I was envisioning disaster when contemplating a world with driving controlled by systems created by humans who arent there to react to unaccounted conditions. You make a bloody excellent point though. The fact that a significant enough percentage of drivers really should NOT be driving would make this a great opportunity. Make it either Opt-In or by Court Order to have to use such automation, and it looks better and better.
I still would have to be VERY VERY sure of the system and see it tested out the wazoo before I would ever consider getting in one. I don't trust a team of EE and SE specialists to think of all the possible reactions they would need coded in for outlier situations. Even an autopilot for an airplane doesnt have to worry about falling trees, landslides, or elk...unless its a REALLY REALLY bad day at least...
language is fun!
That little link to read the complaint actually includes rather shocking detail concerning how blatant SAP's misuse of the logins they used was. Not to mention the fact that they HAD to know they were leaving fingerprints left right and center, for example with one login they had downloaded 1800 distinct packages over 4 days, where the original user of the login was logging usage around 20 downloads per month.
By making use of soon to expire passwords. They didnt exploit a flaw, they used credentials they were not authorized to use.
And not as Funny g'damnit, thats about as concise an analogy to explain this entire article i've seen.
I'm sure they are aware of this, but when losing market share to a competitor yelling "they arent an equivalent good!" is as good a way as any to keep the shareholders in line (assuming they arent too attentive =)).
Cmonnnnnn, you know you want to download bonzo buddy. I mean you ARE our 234628346245th visitor!
Yes because if you want to raise eyebrows, be a male clicking on porn links. They'd never expect it!
What I really do not understand is this mentality that its a bad thing for an influx of immigrant labour IN ONES OWN COUNTRY. If someone is willing to do the work for however much less, while living in the same region, then obviously the higher wage position is overvalued to begin with. Note: while living in the same region, meaning same cost of living concerns.
The biggest concern I have these days with the north american labour force is this default attitude that we DESERVE more for less. The number of people making more for their position than their skills warrant (not necessarily than the position warrants) is abysmal here.
Sadly theres no fast solution here, anything that would fix the current state quickly would cause too much initial strife. Slow changes would be shot down; Imagine how up in arms people get when a company suggests an inability to have raises in a fiscal year, regardless of the logic behind it.
I really do not see a solution to these issues that wont simply be forced upon us by reality as more and more motivated and skilled workers elsewhere stop coming here and decide they can set up shop as easily back home.
Fundamentalists and extremists exist everywhere; All WE notice is where they've become vocal enough to notice. Sadly if the rest of us are to have any freedom, they must have the freedom to spout their crap as well. It's a question on whether their hands are also on the reins.
Not particularly, if the US movie industry did not exist, some other entity would fill the void concerning promoting new films. Filmmakers of course are certainly NOT going to stop making films as long as there are people who want to watch them, and the current movie industry is NOT essential to that process (please note that i do not say not USEFUL, they are merely not essential, especially since the costs for high-end effects and production are becoming less prohibitive all the time).
If the US movie industry went belly up, there would still be people who want to film around our scenery.
Your situation is basically the exact intent of most of the canadian mobile telcos for sure. New customers are much higher value to the company, and so are able to get significantly higher rebates. Its a black and white case, but they cant exactly say it that way to the customer.
Funny thing is, those reprogrammings and "number migrations" costs maybe 5 minutes of a 10-24$ an hour wage slaves time to do; Literally (the wage difference depending on subcontractors versus union shops).
However, its a difficult situation with mobile telcos. There was a huge capital investment to get the networks up to begin with, as well as maintenance and R&D costs that arent exactly apparent in terms of costing "minutes" or other per-usage metrics. This means no one really knows what the value IS, so they pick what the market will bear. I would be seriously interested to know what kind of profit margins they actually see for these types of administrative changes, but its definitely a way to recoup unrelated costs to keep their price per-usage as low as the current competition.
Bottom line is this: new customers ARE more valuable to them and they know it. If you want to see serious service, suggest DEACTIVATING at the end of your contract and you'll see where there interest lie. If you get a better offer then they give a crap about you, if you hear the same song and dance you just arent "worth it" in their eyes.
With regards to the article, it definitely makes no sense in this case as there isnt much in terms of lock-in protection from these companies. Being able to import your previous settings appears to be about it as opposed to people having to advise their contacts of a new cellular number or long term contract charges and such with telcos.
We humans are a pretty sad and sorry bunch sometimes.
Along with an EULA that states Knife may not be interoperable with Pig Iron Chute.
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"What is the enforcement for speeding?" he said. "The enforcement for is not that the car grinds to a halt. [Instead of DRM] I'm inclined to make software to allow people to do the right thing first." Why on earth did he choose to turn aside that argument in lieu of taking it head on? This is an EXCELLENT analogy to turn to his own uses imo. Speed limits in almost any country I know of seem to have a good 10 units of measure (km/h or mp/h) leeway it seems as to whether the speed limit is enforced or not. This seems to me to be an excellent analogy to the black and white way the **AA's attempt to enforce the DRM rules currently versus the grey area that SHOULD exist with regards to fair use.
Can someone enlighten me as to why he would choose to avoid that point? Is there some precedent that makes this dangerous to his argument?
IANAL as per most such posts, but if one could point out why that analogy would have been a bad thing I'd love to know.
(ps slick with the s/deep/dept/)
I dont really understand what you'd be trying to say; Diversity isnt changing, the naming and licensing may though.
Patriotism is fine, its the extreme version that has the worlds eyebrows rising.
Caveat: widely accepted might be a bit of hyperbole. It certainly was at the call centers I have worked for, for two of our four major providers here in canada.
No tin-foil-hat brand for this one, Its widely accepted in canadian telecomm call centers (not mentioning any names) that this is EXACTLY the strategy behind most spam sms policies.
Verizon just realized you can push PR at the same time as double dipping as you say =)
In the case of telecomm, this is less of a joke than you would think as far as I see things.
The infamous step 3 in this case is "have competitors do exact same thing" so you have indirect collusion which leads to rotating customers back and forth. The company which repelled the client gets an LTCC out of many cases, while the competitor gets a "new business" metric. All they have to do then is delay their deactivations enough that new activations outweigh them so they appear to be flourishing.
It seems to be quite the trend in north american telecom business models it seems to inflate growth figures for their investors.
Think crop rotation and I think you'll get the gist of it.
Note: as far as I see things. seems to.
Despite the context of immigration increasing health care costs etc, as well as the inflammatory edge to the comment, the parent actually makes a really good point.
I fail to see how this is at all a troll OR a flamebait. Obviously, scientific investment is necessary for ANY nation that doesnt want to be left behind in the increasingly "near" futures, but how DO you propose balancing the need for theoretical advancement versus direct advancement of your populace by investing more in health care programs and the like?
I am not against scientific research investment, quite the opposite, but that does NOT change the fact that there is only a finite amount of resources to go around.
I'm sure if the parent had posted his point in a thread concerning declining health care budgets, he'd be modded insightful, however inflammatory. Mod points are NOT meant to be used to disagree with someone (yes yes, this IS slashdot..)
25 years? Crap, I never realized my collection of classics is ridden with victorian and rennaissance era DRM!
I actually expect this to be Googles next move, once proof of concept is over. Offer subsidized educational rates for universities, universities do backflips, and whole generations of new professionals start out work with "Hey how come we dont use what we've been using these past years!" pressures being applied to IT departments.
Nothing innovative there for google (*cough*microsoft*cough*), but its still a solid strategy.