I recall that they set it up the same way as what was suspected in the accident. But I also remember that they were instructors...and I don't recall whether they said this or not....there is no way they weren't prepped for what was going to happen. Even if they weren't "NOVA is gonna be here...we're going to have you try to fly thru an unknown situation in the simulator" would have told an experienced A330 pilot what was in store.
The A330 is twin engine. There is a good episode of NOVA about this crash. It would probably be more correct to say that the sensors failed, and the software did what it was programmed to do.
Was noted above, they did bring in portable generators...the plugs on the gens didn't match the power grid at the plant. Probably the only snafu in what was an obvious worst case scenario.
paraphrasing Michael Scott 'look, all I'm saying is that in Die Hard one Bruce Willis was just a normal guy that wandered into a bad situation....later on, he's jumping motorcycles over helicopters'
They also got $15K and the publicity for hacking OS X and safari....something a large population of people liked to think couldn't be done. I seriously doubt that anyone on VUPEN's team doesn't already have a macbook if they really want one. Or at least, access to one.
I remember, way back, him getting into some beef with Intel that got to the point where it was difficult to think that they were being objective. I'm sure this has changed by now...but I didn't go back to that site for a long time. And he really was an ass at times....although me saying that about someone else is without a doubt the pot and the kettle.
I'm gonna have to go with crush people. That thing looks scary as hell. Although, I think I would rather have them look blatanty machine like....I don't even like it when the U-Scan speaks to me at the Grocery. I hate how it says hello after you scan your shoppers card. You are not happy to see me machine...
There was some argument creep here...I shouldn't have posted such a flippant response. However, I never said that computers didn't make healthcare safer...just that they don't make it any cheaper. And I stand by that statement.
Nobody is getting out of this business in the next 5 years. With 5010 and then ICD-10 there is just too much money to gouge out of your customers (especially if you sell an older system...like GE does...that isn't going to handle either one of those very gracefully). Besides...groupcast usually runs on AIX servers, I would have thought that would win them some points around here:)
yep. And the bigger they are, the more likely they are on a UNIX system. I make most of my money because the kids don't get the difference between / and \
This is why I love the idea of non-specialists being paid a monthy amount based on how many patients they have. You don't get any more for ordering expensive and unecessary tests. You don't get any less for using a cheaper, common-sense, remedy that is just as effective.
You don't have any incentive to schedule unecessary follow up visits....you get paid the same no matter how many times you see me. If I feel like you are putting me off or avoiding treating me...I go find another doctor and you don't get anything from me anymore.
Of course the devil is in the details, but I think this would work better than what we have.
They can email it to you. I am not asking for a discussion on whether this is the right way to do it...but a password protected zip/rar/etc passes HIPAA muster, as long as the password isn't in the email itself ofc. Although I completely agree with you, HIPAA is used as an excuse for not wanting to do something. And a way for a lot of companies to make a lot of money.
Another thing to check is how they bill your visit to your insurance company.
I doubt many are billing outright fraudulently...but they might bill a code that implied that the doctor had seen you directly for 30 minutes...when he had actually been in the room for about 3. There is a cheaper rate for that. Since almost nobody ever looks at this, it never gets caught. Except if you were that provider that didn't know I had that level of acess to my insurance claims...and that understanding of what the procedure codes were. (They IMMEDIATELY changed it when I brought it to their attention).
already commented or I would mod you up. It was not intended to be punitive...if you mess something up, they tell you to fix it. An honest mistake...or even, at this point, an ignorant mistake is not what they are after at this point.
Out of curiosity...can you tell me which parts of the HIPPA laws are a hassle and a timekiller for a Doctor to comply with? Administrator's, IT staff, especially the billing staff sure...but a Doctor?
This is one of the few times where/. wanders into my wheelhouse. This is, unfortunately, how I make my living. And while the implementation may be sloppy for some, just about everyone I work with except tiny one doc offices take HIPPA pretty seriously. I can absolutely guarantee you that insurance claim clearinghouses and insurance companies take it very, very seriously.
Also, I would like to take this opportunity to say that I have been elbow deep in this for the last 4 years and I would like to state unequivocally that computers do not lower healthcare costs at all. It's just another vector for companies to grab a slice of the money in the US healthcare system pie. I sometimes feel that we would be better off going back to paper claims.
I remember in high school German class the teacher said something along the lines of 'as far as you guys are concerned...if I tell you something is a rule in terms of grammar or spelling...it always is. There are no exceptions'.
I'm pretty sure he meant 'this type of thinking'...and I'm pretty sure that you knew that too. You did do a pretty good job of proving the point he was making though.
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I recall that they set it up the same way as what was suspected in the accident. But I also remember that they were instructors...and I don't recall whether they said this or not....there is no way they weren't prepped for what was going to happen. Even if they weren't "NOVA is gonna be here...we're going to have you try to fly thru an unknown situation in the simulator" would have told an experienced A330 pilot what was in store.
The A330 is twin engine. There is a good episode of NOVA about this crash. It would probably be more correct to say that the sensors failed, and the software did what it was programmed to do.
Was noted above, they did bring in portable generators...the plugs on the gens didn't match the power grid at the plant. Probably the only snafu in what was an obvious worst case scenario.
paraphrasing Michael Scott
'look, all I'm saying is that in Die Hard one Bruce Willis was just a normal guy that wandered into a bad situation....later on, he's jumping motorcycles over helicopters'
See all the recent HBGary stories.
They also got $15K and the publicity for hacking OS X and safari....something a large population of people liked to think couldn't be done. I seriously doubt that anyone on VUPEN's team doesn't already have a macbook if they really want one. Or at least, access to one.
he used google maps to find the place.....and oh, he found it....
I remember, way back, him getting into some beef with Intel that got to the point where it was difficult to think that they were being objective. I'm sure this has changed by now...but I didn't go back to that site for a long time. And he really was an ass at times....although me saying that about someone else is without a doubt the pot and the kettle.
I'm gonna have to go with crush people. That thing looks scary as hell.
Although, I think I would rather have them look blatanty machine like....I don't even like it when the U-Scan speaks to me at the Grocery. I hate how it says hello after you scan your shoppers card. You are not happy to see me machine...
There was some argument creep here...I shouldn't have posted such a flippant response. However, I never said that computers didn't make healthcare safer...just that they don't make it any cheaper. And I stand by that statement.
:)
Nobody is getting out of this business in the next 5 years. With 5010 and then ICD-10 there is just too much money to gouge out of your customers (especially if you sell an older system...like GE does...that isn't going to handle either one of those very gracefully). Besides...groupcast usually runs on AIX servers, I would have thought that would win them some points around here
yep. And the bigger they are, the more likely they are on a UNIX system. I make most of my money because the kids don't get the difference between / and \
gotcha. This lie paid your salary last year. (I won't say it anymore)
oh, it certainly isn't my idea...I just agree with it.
This is why I love the idea of non-specialists being paid a monthy amount based on how many patients they have. You don't get any more for ordering expensive and unecessary tests. You don't get any less for using a cheaper, common-sense, remedy that is just as effective.
You don't have any incentive to schedule unecessary follow up visits....you get paid the same no matter how many times you see me. If I feel like you are putting me off or avoiding treating me...I go find another doctor and you don't get anything from me anymore.
Of course the devil is in the details, but I think this would work better than what we have.
They can email it to you. I am not asking for a discussion on whether this is the right way to do it...but a password protected zip/rar/etc passes HIPAA muster, as long as the password isn't in the email itself ofc. Although I completely agree with you, HIPAA is used as an excuse for not wanting to do something. And a way for a lot of companies to make a lot of money.
Another thing to check is how they bill your visit to your insurance company.
I doubt many are billing outright fraudulently...but they might bill a code that implied that the doctor had seen you directly for 30 minutes...when he had actually been in the room for about 3. There is a cheaper rate for that. Since almost nobody ever looks at this, it never gets caught. Except if you were that provider that didn't know I had that level of acess to my insurance claims...and that understanding of what the procedure codes were. (They IMMEDIATELY changed it when I brought it to their attention).
already commented or I would mod you up. It was not intended to be punitive...if you mess something up, they tell you to fix it. An honest mistake...or even, at this point, an ignorant mistake is not what they are after at this point.
Out of curiosity...can you tell me which parts of the HIPPA laws are a hassle and a timekiller for a Doctor to comply with? Administrator's, IT staff, especially the billing staff sure...but a Doctor?
/. wanders into my wheelhouse. This is, unfortunately, how I make my living. And while the implementation may be sloppy for some, just about everyone I work with except tiny one doc offices take HIPPA pretty seriously. I can absolutely guarantee you that insurance claim clearinghouses and insurance companies take it very, very seriously.
This is one of the few times where
Also, I would like to take this opportunity to say that I have been elbow deep in this for the last 4 years and I would like to state unequivocally that computers do not lower healthcare costs at all. It's just another vector for companies to grab a slice of the money in the US healthcare system pie. I sometimes feel that we would be better off going back to paper claims.
same here. 'use IE6 if you want to....but don't call us if it doesn't work'....this is probably the same tune that will be sung for a few years.
I changed my mind. This post is funny.
SR71 I think you meantersay
point taken
mushroom hippees.
I remember in high school German class the teacher said something along the lines of 'as far as you guys are concerned...if I tell you something is a rule in terms of grammar or spelling...it always is. There are no exceptions'.
I remember thinking....oh, that's nice.
I'm pretty sure he meant 'this type of thinking'...and I'm pretty sure that you knew that too. You did do a pretty good job of proving the point he was making though.