Would have been nice to have selected a news source that didn't require WMP to see video. Yeah, I'm bitching, but, with a zillion articles on the events out there, would have been nice to have thought of the needs of many of your SD audience.
Just a lovely off topic rant to request that you guys STOP putting links to "must be registered to view this page" pages in articles. Having to register to see a page is annoying, goes against the spirit of the net and Slashdot shouldn't support sites that think they can throw their weight around to force people into their marketing programs just to look at a page.
Oh dear god man, after listening to years of Conservative "outrage", millions spent on Starr Reports, constant Media Blitz and an Impeachment over a FUCKING BLOWJOB you have the NERVE to call concern over the Nation being completely, utterly, blatently lied to in order to start a war that has left hundreds of our people and tens of thousands of their people dead "all this bigotry and hatred?" Lie about a blowjob = impeachment, lie about WMD = "stop whining". Really, who is being the child here.
the OpenBSD project have released OpenSSH 3.7.1 which contains further updates for similar issues to the one fixed by OpenSSH 3.7. While they do not know if these bugs are exploitable (which they also said about the 3.7 buffer.c update) it may be worth investigating the additional updates in 3.7.1 and seeing if any of them are applicable to the versions in Debian, and if so reissuing the security update. (The diff between 3.7 and 3.7.1 is short and only seems to contain the potential security fixes.)
Which makes me wonder if the patches that are currently being distributed won't need to be updated agian very quickly.
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First would like to say thanks to Bruce and Eric for this response. What I would like to bitch about is that most of the points that they made in their response were things that any real journalist would have actually checked. The McBride letter got plastered all over "news" sites on the net without any real challenge to the "facts" contained within. The SCO Regime knows that "reporters" for online "magazines" pretty much cut and paste any drivel that is sent out as a corporate press release. Slap on a headline and a few "this person said"s and a couple of "according to"s and blam you have an article. (Witness how MicroSofts latest funded "study" got plastered all over.) Of the online tech "news" portals, only The Register seems to EVER bother to check any of the "facts" that are reported in these press releases. Had any real journalism been going on here, these rags would have bothered to check at least SOME of the outlandish claims that SCO makes, or at least do something like make the headline "SCO makes more outlandish claims" or gosh even remind people that SCO has yet to release anything resembling proof. But because SCO knows they can get any outlandish claims published (and they WILL be published because the companies that publish them know that MicroSoft WANTS them published) and will subsequently drive up their stock price.
I never said there is something wrong with Red Hat, et.al., making a buck from Free Software, you just ASSUMED that. And I doubt you have had had much experience with the "real world" you pretend to know about if you haven't seen what happens to anyone that gets in bed with MicroSoft. Sure, Bill & co have played nice so far with the Mono fools, but we all know that the moment it becomes a "standard" they will be squashed. If you think any differently then you are living in some fantasy world and should get a clue about what Mono is REALLY all about... Miguel taking yet another shortcut... but this one leads right to hell...
It's not the "free" software Ximian provides... well, in their case it isn't software they are providing as much as a "less fucked up version of the GNOME mess" that they are providing... its the GNOME adaptation of.NET and C# that is the insane part. One does not need to be on any horse, fool, er sir, to know what happens to ANYONE that helps a MicroSoft become "the" standard. Wake up.
As long as those GNOME fools continue down that insane path to hell that is.NET and Ximian is leading the way to "freedom by enslaving ourselves to MicroSoft Standards" there is no way I'm touching either GNOME or Ximian. Miguel, et. al. are just a bunch of opportunists that are using Free Software and Free Software developers to make a quick buck. And lets face it, even with Ximian trying to clean up the mess, GNOME still is one big freakin mess. The one line about the desktop theme thats "also a Nautilus theme, a Galeon theme, an XMMS theme, an OpenOffice.org theme, a Metacity theme, and an Icon theme" made me chuckle.... god forbid in their rush to shove all their heads up Bill Gates' arse they ever go back and fix the fragmented hideous cludge that is GNOME.
All this rambling on about plot continuity and time lines and alternate realities... I have recently discovered an important axiom which will explain the reason for ALL these so called anomalies once and for all. What is most amazing is that this axiom will explain ALL subjects discussed above, ALL of them, can be expained in their entirety with 4 mere words. Here they are...
IT'S IN THE SCRIPT
Amazing isn't it? But am I not correct? These 4 simple words explain it all, not only for the "Star Trek" Universe, but also every other Universe that exists in two dimensions as photons on a flat screen.
So, the next time you have friends get into a lengthy discussion about why the Enterprise X can do warp blah blah while the Enterprise Y can do yackity yackity: first stop and remind them they are NEVER gonna get laid, then hold up your hand with four fingers and say slowly and distinctly "four words, nerd boy, its in the script"
I bought a Zaurus thinking it would be great to have a Linux PDA and it looked on paper to have pretty good specs. Now that I have one, I find that it is little more than an expensive paperwieght. First of all, their promised wireless solution took forever to become available, is too expensive, and the idiots they got to do it for them still don't really have a working usable product. I have Mac's and PCs running Linux here, and since Sharp has chosen not to support the Mac at all and the Linux software is buggy and moot considering there is really no software to sync with, like that horrid outlook clone Evolution, I don't really see the point. I would suggest to everyone that people NOT waste your money on a Zaurus. It may look kewl, but it really isnt a functional machine that is actually ready to use.
There are many things that greatly disturb me about Miguel's casual assertion that "Mono is just a free implementation that happens to implement a technology that was built by a proprietary company." His assertion to me was that "I will be writing some more free software using.NET, because I can produce more code in less time." This statement itself is completely baffling to me. If the point of the GNOME project was to "write more software in less time" and to hell with where the stuff came from and under what license, it would have never started in the first place. The reasons stated by Mr. de Icaza that GNOME was started had to do with the problems with the QT licensing with KDE, which was and still remains a much more complete and usable system.
People like me stuck with GNOME (I can remember a disasterous attempt to use way not ready for prime time 1.0 release on a college campus) because we believed in the GNU approach that GNOME was taking. Now that Mr. de Icaza is working at a high paid job, apparently none of this matters anymore, he has come to embrace the "whatever gets it done" mindset.
But would some one explain to me how a complete reverse engineering of a MicroSoft compiler and all the other bits and pieces of.Net is possibly "getting more done in less time." Not to meantion what is going to happen when MicroSoft says "no you can't do that" and sets out to put and end to it, and I think from the thier track record you can count on it. The only reason they haven't done so yet is that none of this has become a "standard" yet and Miguel seems perfectly content with helping them make it a "standard".
The notion that we should roll over and accept the fact of a.Net world flies in the face of everything the GNOME project asserted from the very beginning. They told us that we didn't have to accept proprietary standards, we could make our own. Now we are being told that it is OK to accept a "standard" that just happens to come from a proprietary company, in this case the worst of them, MicroSoft, because "I like it better" and "it will help me make stuff faster".
Well this is all just absurd. No matter how calmly he tries to assure us that everything will be OK, I think that anyone that hasn't been living in a cave knows what getting into bed in any way with MicroSoft will end up doing to you. You pick up a snake, you are going to be bitten. The only possible reason I could see for wanting to do this is for Ximian to slip in some non-free parts of Mono they want you buy (but it's OK cause it is just to connect to all the.Net stuff you already have from MicroSoft) the same way they did with evolution.
Perhaps I have just missed it, but any information on networking this beast? I have heard that the ethernet adapter for the PS2 isn't due out till after the winter shopping season. (Sony has to be kicking themselves over that one, networking is the only thing the Xbox really has over the PS2) Any word on how the box running Linux would use this network adapter?
Has mentioned the fact that MicroSoft was the number 4 contributer to both Bush and Gore in the last Presidential election. Is it any wonder that the Bush Justice Department let them off with such a watered down worthless agreement.
Funny that in the American Form of Capitalism that even other working class people will defend the "right" of the elite class to screw their own. It is frightening that people in this country are brainwashed to the point that they think that Corporations should be free to do ANYTHING including ripping off their workers for their pay and we are just supposed to accept it. You can be DAMN sure that the execs of that company left with big fat "golden parachutes".
It is high time we got over the "if it's good for GM, it's good for America" propaganda bullshit and realise that corporations need to be held accountable for the damage and destruction they have on people's lives. Corporations think that destroying the lives of thousands who loose their jobs to make a buck (Pan Am) is commonplace, but they also think nothing of mass murder (Union Carbide in India) supporting dictators (United Fruit and many others in Central and South America) and slave labor (Various Oil companies in Burma).
The attitude of "anything to make money is OK" needs to stop. If that were REALLY true, GM would sell crack, which is pound for pound more profitable than a truck. The law can and should stop corporations from hurting people, whether it be selling crack or leaving people jobless and destitute because they stole the money due to the workers.
We say that this is a country formed by the people, for the people but act as if it is just for the rich and elite. The time has come to start thinking like we, the people, count more than the corporate Power Elite and look to these people as examples.
I have ordered so many servers I have lost count of them. From VALinux, Penguin, Dell, Linux Hardware Solutions (bought by VA) and this really cheap guy that sells Yahoo all their servers.
This is how I would rate experiences with them:
Linux Hardware Solutions: totally didn't have their act together, one guy was trying to sell them, build them and do tech support it seems. Good thing they got bought.
Dell: Dell still has a long way to go learning to do Linux. Other than the Dell desktop background, they do very little to tweek the distro from what I have seen. They are trying to sell to a NT crowd, but mess up. For example, when you order a Dell with a tape drive, they don't have enough sense to include BRU or something, or even make sure there is a device in/dev for it. New users are stumped by this. Granted, of them all, Dells are built the best. Rare to get a DOA Dell, and when you do, you can ship it back and get a new one fairly easily. Average time for a new system: one month.
VALinux: Is the biggest of the linux only group. Their manuals are nicer and more refined, as are their servers. You will get DOA equipment from them like 1 times out of 10. They are pretty good at replacing, but this can vary. As can how long it takes to build them. I have gotten a VA in 1 day (they keep some in stock pre-fab) and I have had one take 2 months. Average is 1-2 weeks. Their SECOND tier tech support is pretty good. They also provide nifty things like the vacuum program to remote admin via serial. Better to stick with their distro unless you know what you are doing, and the poster CLEARLY has no clue if they are installing mandrake on a server. I always install Debian on them with no problem, except for RAID cards, which is getting better.
Penguin is smaller than VA, and their systems/tech support are about the same. The advantage to them is they are 3 floors up from me, and the DOA system I got from them, I just hauled it upstairs, but did take 2 weeks to get a new one (granted, they just changed their tracking system and things were a mess.) Build times are from 1 week to 3 weeks. They have less "gurus" than VA but do good testing. They are cheaper than VA.
Cheapy guy that makes Yahoo's boxes. These are 1/2 the price of the others. Dont expect ANY tech support if you go this route, you are on your own. Almost 1/2 of these had problems. Yeah they are cheap, but is it worth your time?...
Things to consider with ANY hardware manufacturer: You are dealing with cheap (yes, $12,000 is CHEAP for a server) systems here. Margins are razor thin. No one has the bucks to blow on stupendous tech support, NO ONE. If you want tech support that will WOW! you and systems that are almost NEVER DOA, you get a Sun, period. Quite frankly, if that is the level of support you want, you PAY for it, and pay dearly. Instead of $12,000 for a cheapie Intel box, expect to pay $50,000 for a Sun. Is it worth 5X? Well, the quality is there, and yes they are paying you a premium for a premium product. Just like the profit margin on a top of line BMW is much higher than an escort. If you buy an Intel box as a server, you are getting an Escort, expect the same level of quality.
So, when it comes to buying Intel Linux boxes, I guess what I am saying is that they are OK, but don't EVER expect to be WOWed by tech support. If you are serious and have a good admin, you will be OK. Obviously yall DONT have a good admin (eg, the mandrake thing) and are paying the price. It doesn't pay to be cheap. Go get some one that knows what they are doing, you can't expect the tech guys at a manufacturer to be your admin for you and answer all your questions and hold your hand. The $500 they made on that $12,000 system gets eaten REAL quick paying some one $30 an hour to sit on the phone and guide you through the pretty mandrake install.
at defcon, they did test a couple of 2000 servers in the pool but found that it was having major problems with sending out too many DNS requests and they had pretty much discounted using 2000 in their server pool. He said that they sent back a list of like 42 things 2000 would need to be ready for prime time in their server pool.
A story I have heard told in these here parts from time to time concerns a conversation between L. Ron Hubbard and a mister Robert A. Heinlein. It seems that Mr Heinlein was gloating that one of his books, specifically Stranger In A Strange Land, had attracted a cult following. Not only this, but apparently some whacko hippies out in California had even started a religion around his book. Services, magazines, the whole nine yards.
Hubbard, in a typical male testosterone "anything you can do, I can do better" fit made a bet with Heinlein that he could start his OWN cult religion, but would be much larger and make major hollywood movies.
And thus Scientology was born, as a joke between two crusty old Sci Fi writers.
Is a wireless PDA that I can run ssh on. This one looks like it might actually be able to run ssh. Now, if it only had a wireless option... Did I meantion I need a static IP address?
Hehe, is administering my servers via a PDA too much to ask for.
I have experience as a Network Admin at a site where we had to send out tens of thousands of emails each day to everyone who played our game to tell them if they won the prize or not. Yes, it was spam but at least it was spam that people knew full well they were gonna get when they played the game. Sending out 100,000 emails took a dual 600 VALinux machine with a gig of RAM a few hours even with Qmail tweaked to hell and sitting in a more-bandwidth-than-god co-lo. Sending a million emails via a windows laptop via an AOL dial up account would take the better part of a week, I would think, at least. Considering that, as far as I could tell, the article only meantions emails being sent from this laptop, and presumably other associates with similar setups, I find it VERY difficult to believe that they REALLY could have been sending out this volume. This makes me seriously doubt that any of this is real. Made a really good joke though.
Simply put, Gates standing around with marching bands and fanfares to release Windows 2000 isn't news. Windows 2000 has been hyped to death for the past two years while they missed one ship date after another. MicroSoft has made sure that EVERYONE knows that they "released" the monster today. The news organisations that have lots of MicroSoft advertising HAVE to show the pictures of smiling Billy and big headlines.
I say to the MicroSerf whiners, if you want press release fluff and pictures of your Fuhrer Bill, then go to ZDNet or something, they are more than willing to pucker up and kiss his arse. If you want the type of news you can't get at those places, like for instance that the Linux development Kernel has changes foo and bar, you come here. You don't like it, go read MSNBC and be happy. But for petes sake just shut up with the whining. This place was started by Linux geeks for Linux geeks and if you don't like it, go the hell some where else.
Is the fact that NT, and Linux for that matter, tend to have more single units sold because they are typically used on smaller systems that distribute the load. My company uses 5 "front end" servers running Linux that might be handled by a single Solaris server. One 256 processor Solaris install will do the job of literally hundreds of NT or Linux boxes.
For NT, this factor is especially important. For instance, I am running Samba, DHCP, BIND, HTTP, MySQL, AppleTalk and Oracle on one office machine that started as a file server and just got more and more stuff added on it. On a Dell 4200 like this, running all this stuff on NT would be unthinkable. Multiple services on NT blows real hard, you almost HAVE to run a separate server for each service. Thus were we using NT, we would have at least 4 installs of NT to do the job of one Linux machine.
Taking this into account, along with the "free downloads" factor, the numbers start to get even more meaningless. I think the key for those selling Linux is to get manufacturers to preinstall it. The only copies of Linux I have ever bought have been computers that have Linux preinstalled (e.g. Dell).
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Would have been nice to have selected a news source that didn't require WMP to see video. Yeah, I'm bitching, but, with a zillion articles on the events out there, would have been nice to have thought of the needs of many of your SD audience.
Just a lovely off topic rant to request that you guys STOP putting links to "must be registered to view this page" pages in articles. Having to register to see a page is annoying, goes against the spirit of the net and Slashdot shouldn't support sites that think they can throw their weight around to force people into their marketing programs just to look at a page.
Oh dear god man, after listening to years of Conservative "outrage", millions spent on Starr Reports, constant Media Blitz and an Impeachment over a FUCKING BLOWJOB you have the NERVE to call concern over the Nation being completely, utterly, blatently lied to in order to start a war that has left hundreds of our people and tens of thousands of their people dead "all this bigotry and hatred?" Lie about a blowjob = impeachment, lie about WMD = "stop whining". Really, who is being the child here.
Take a look at
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http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bu
Which notes:
the OpenBSD project have released OpenSSH 3.7.1 which contains further updates for similar issues to the one fixed by OpenSSH 3.7. While they do not know if these bugs are exploitable (which they also said about the 3.7 buffer.c update) it may be worth investigating the additional updates in 3.7.1 and seeing if any of them are applicable to the versions in Debian, and if so reissuing the security update. (The diff between 3.7 and 3.7.1 is short and only seems to contain the potential security fixes.)
Which makes me wonder if the patches that are currently being distributed won't need to be updated agian very quickly.
First would like to say thanks to Bruce and Eric for this response. What I would like to bitch about is that most of the points that they made in their response were things that any real journalist would have actually checked. The McBride letter got plastered all over "news" sites on the net without any real challenge to the "facts" contained within. The SCO Regime knows that "reporters" for online "magazines" pretty much cut and paste any drivel that is sent out as a corporate press release. Slap on a headline and a few "this person said"s and a couple of "according to"s and blam you have an article. (Witness how MicroSofts latest funded "study" got plastered all over.) Of the online tech "news" portals, only The Register seems to EVER bother to check any of the "facts" that are reported in these press releases. Had any real journalism been going on here, these rags would have bothered to check at least SOME of the outlandish claims that SCO makes, or at least do something like make the headline "SCO makes more outlandish claims" or gosh even remind people that SCO has yet to release anything resembling proof. But because SCO knows they can get any outlandish claims published (and they WILL be published because the companies that publish them know that MicroSoft WANTS them published) and will subsequently drive up their stock price.
I never said there is something wrong with Red Hat, et.al., making a buck from Free Software, you just ASSUMED that. And I doubt you have had had much experience with the "real world" you pretend to know about if you haven't seen what happens to anyone that gets in bed with MicroSoft. Sure, Bill & co have played nice so far with the Mono fools, but we all know that the moment it becomes a "standard" they will be squashed. If you think any differently then you are living in some fantasy world and should get a clue about what Mono is REALLY all about... Miguel taking yet another shortcut ... but this one leads right to hell...
It's not the "free" software Ximian provides... well, in their case it isn't software they are providing as much as a "less fucked up version of the GNOME mess" that they are providing... its the GNOME adaptation of .NET and C# that is the insane part. One does not need to be on any horse, fool, er sir, to know what happens to ANYONE that helps a MicroSoft become "the" standard. Wake up.
As long as those GNOME fools continue down that insane path to hell that is .NET and Ximian is leading the way to "freedom by enslaving ourselves to MicroSoft Standards" there is no way I'm touching either GNOME or Ximian. Miguel, et. al. are just a bunch of opportunists that are using Free Software and Free Software developers to make a quick buck. And lets face it, even with Ximian trying to clean up the mess, GNOME still is one big freakin mess. The one line about the desktop theme thats "also a Nautilus theme, a Galeon theme, an XMMS theme, an OpenOffice.org theme, a Metacity theme, and an Icon theme" made me chuckle.... god forbid in their rush to shove all their heads up Bill Gates' arse they ever go back and fix the fragmented hideous cludge that is GNOME.
IT'S IN THE SCRIPT
Amazing isn't it? But am I not correct? These 4 simple words explain it all, not only for the "Star Trek" Universe, but also every other Universe that exists in two dimensions as photons on a flat screen.
So, the next time you have friends get into a lengthy discussion about why the Enterprise X can do warp blah blah while the Enterprise Y can do yackity yackity: first stop and remind them they are NEVER gonna get laid, then hold up your hand with four fingers and say slowly and distinctly "four words, nerd boy, its in the script"
I bought a Zaurus thinking it would be great to have a Linux PDA and it looked on paper to have pretty good specs. Now that I have one, I find that it is little more than an expensive paperwieght. First of all, their promised wireless solution took forever to become available, is too expensive, and the idiots they got to do it for them still don't really have a working usable product. I have Mac's and PCs running Linux here, and since Sharp has chosen not to support the Mac at all and the Linux software is buggy and moot considering there is really no software to sync with, like that horrid outlook clone Evolution, I don't really see the point. I would suggest to everyone that people NOT waste your money on a Zaurus. It may look kewl, but it really isnt a functional machine that is actually ready to use.
People like me stuck with GNOME (I can remember a disasterous attempt to use way not ready for prime time 1.0 release on a college campus) because we believed in the GNU approach that GNOME was taking. Now that Mr. de Icaza is working at a high paid job, apparently none of this matters anymore, he has come to embrace the "whatever gets it done" mindset.
But would some one explain to me how a complete reverse engineering of a MicroSoft compiler and all the other bits and pieces of .Net is possibly "getting more done in less time." Not to meantion what is going to happen when MicroSoft says "no you can't do that" and sets out to put and end to it, and I think from the thier track record you can count on it. The only reason they haven't done so yet is that none of this has become a "standard" yet and Miguel seems perfectly content with helping them make it a "standard".
The notion that we should roll over and accept the fact of a .Net world flies in the face of everything the GNOME project asserted from the very beginning. They told us that we didn't have to accept proprietary standards, we could make our own. Now we are being told that it is OK to accept a "standard" that just happens to come from a proprietary company, in this case the worst of them, MicroSoft, because "I like it better" and "it will help me make stuff faster".
Well this is all just absurd. No matter how calmly he tries to assure us that everything will be OK, I think that anyone that hasn't been living in a cave knows what getting into bed in any way with MicroSoft will end up doing to you. You pick up a snake, you are going to be bitten. The only possible reason I could see for wanting to do this is for Ximian to slip in some non-free parts of Mono they want you buy (but it's OK cause it is just to connect to all the .Net stuff you already have from MicroSoft) the same way they did with evolution.
Perhaps I have just missed it, but any information on networking this beast? I have heard that the ethernet adapter for the PS2 isn't due out till after the winter shopping season. (Sony has to be kicking themselves over that one, networking is the only thing the Xbox really has over the PS2) Any word on how the box running Linux would use this network adapter?
Has mentioned the fact that MicroSoft was the number 4 contributer to both Bush and Gore in the last Presidential election. Is it any wonder that the Bush Justice Department let them off with such a watered down worthless agreement.
It is high time we got over the "if it's good for GM, it's good for America" propaganda bullshit and realise that corporations need to be held accountable for the damage and destruction they have on people's lives. Corporations think that destroying the lives of thousands who loose their jobs to make a buck (Pan Am) is commonplace, but they also think nothing of mass murder (Union Carbide in India) supporting dictators (United Fruit and many others in Central and South America) and slave labor (Various Oil companies in Burma).
The attitude of "anything to make money is OK" needs to stop. If that were REALLY true, GM would sell crack, which is pound for pound more profitable than a truck. The law can and should stop corporations from hurting people, whether it be selling crack or leaving people jobless and destitute because they stole the money due to the workers.
We say that this is a country formed by the people, for the people but act as if it is just for the rich and elite. The time has come to start thinking like we, the people, count more than the corporate Power Elite and look to these people as examples.
The site support.eazel.com is running Microsoft-IIS/5.0 on Windows 2000.
This is how I would rate experiences with them:
- Linux Hardware Solutions: totally didn't have their act together, one guy was trying to sell them, build them and do tech support it seems. Good thing they got bought.
- Dell: Dell still has a long way to go learning to do Linux. Other than the Dell desktop background, they do very little to tweek the distro from what I have seen. They are trying to sell to a NT crowd, but mess up. For example, when you order a Dell with a tape drive, they don't have enough sense to include BRU or something, or even make sure there is a device in
/dev for it. New users are stumped by this. Granted, of them all, Dells are built the best. Rare to get a DOA Dell, and when you do, you can ship it back and get a new one fairly easily. Average time for a new system: one month.
- VALinux: Is the biggest of the linux only group. Their manuals are nicer and more refined, as are their servers. You will get DOA equipment from them like 1 times out of 10. They are pretty good at replacing, but this can vary. As can how long it takes to build them. I have gotten a VA in 1 day (they keep some in stock pre-fab) and I have had one take 2 months. Average is 1-2 weeks. Their SECOND tier tech support is pretty good. They also provide nifty things like the vacuum program to remote admin via serial. Better to stick with their distro unless you know what you are doing, and the poster CLEARLY has no clue if they are installing mandrake on a server. I always install Debian on them with no problem, except for RAID cards, which is getting better.
- Penguin is smaller than VA, and their systems/tech support are about the same. The advantage to them is they are 3 floors up from me, and the DOA system I got from them, I just hauled it upstairs, but did take 2 weeks to get a new one (granted, they just changed their tracking system and things were a mess.) Build times are from 1 week to 3 weeks. They have less "gurus" than VA but do good testing. They are cheaper than VA.
- Cheapy guy that makes Yahoo's boxes. These are 1/2 the price of the others. Dont expect ANY tech support if you go this route, you are on your own. Almost 1/2 of these had problems. Yeah they are cheap, but is it worth your time?...
Things to consider with ANY hardware manufacturer: You are dealing with cheap (yes, $12,000 is CHEAP for a server) systems here. Margins are razor thin. No one has the bucks to blow on stupendous tech support, NO ONE. If you want tech support that will WOW! you and systems that are almost NEVER DOA, you get a Sun, period. Quite frankly, if that is the level of support you want, you PAY for it, and pay dearly. Instead of $12,000 for a cheapie Intel box, expect to pay $50,000 for a Sun. Is it worth 5X? Well, the quality is there, and yes they are paying you a premium for a premium product. Just like the profit margin on a top of line BMW is much higher than an escort. If you buy an Intel box as a server, you are getting an Escort, expect the same level of quality.So, when it comes to buying Intel Linux boxes, I guess what I am saying is that they are OK, but don't EVER expect to be WOWed by tech support. If you are serious and have a good admin, you will be OK. Obviously yall DONT have a good admin (eg, the mandrake thing) and are paying the price. It doesn't pay to be cheap. Go get some one that knows what they are doing, you can't expect the tech guys at a manufacturer to be your admin for you and answer all your questions and hold your hand. The $500 they made on that $12,000 system gets eaten REAL quick paying some one $30 an hour to sit on the phone and guide you through the pretty mandrake install.
at defcon, they did test a couple of 2000 servers in the pool but found that it was having major problems with sending out too many DNS requests and they had pretty much discounted using 2000 in their server pool. He said that they sent back a list of like 42 things 2000 would need to be ready for prime time in their server pool.
Sorry, had some DNS refresh issues, try now.
I have some pictures taken at DefCon here: http://defcon.gamelet.com Take a look ;)
Hubbard, in a typical male testosterone "anything you can do, I can do better" fit made a bet with Heinlein that he could start his OWN cult religion, but would be much larger and make major hollywood movies.
And thus Scientology was born, as a joke between two crusty old Sci Fi writers.
Is a wireless PDA that I can run ssh on. This one looks like it might actually be able to run ssh. Now, if it only had a wireless option... Did I meantion I need a static IP address?
Hehe, is administering my servers via a PDA too much to ask for.
I have experience as a Network Admin at a site where we had to send out tens of thousands of emails each day to everyone who played our game to tell them if they won the prize or not. Yes, it was spam but at least it was spam that people knew full well they were gonna get when they played the game. Sending out 100,000 emails took a dual 600 VALinux machine with a gig of RAM a few hours even with Qmail tweaked to hell and sitting in a more-bandwidth-than-god co-lo. Sending a million emails via a windows laptop via an AOL dial up account would take the better part of a week, I would think, at least. Considering that, as far as I could tell, the article only meantions emails being sent from this laptop, and presumably other associates with similar setups, I find it VERY difficult to believe that they REALLY could have been sending out this volume. This makes me seriously doubt that any of this is real. Made a really good joke though.
I say to the MicroSerf whiners, if you want press release fluff and pictures of your Fuhrer Bill, then go to ZDNet or something, they are more than willing to pucker up and kiss his arse. If you want the type of news you can't get at those places, like for instance that the Linux development Kernel has changes foo and bar, you come here. You don't like it, go read MSNBC and be happy. But for petes sake just shut up with the whining. This place was started by Linux geeks for Linux geeks and if you don't like it, go the hell some where else.
For NT, this factor is especially important. For instance, I am running Samba, DHCP, BIND, HTTP, MySQL, AppleTalk and Oracle on one office machine that started as a file server and just got more and more stuff added on it. On a Dell 4200 like this, running all this stuff on NT would be unthinkable. Multiple services on NT blows real hard, you almost HAVE to run a separate server for each service. Thus were we using NT, we would have at least 4 installs of NT to do the job of one Linux machine.
Taking this into account, along with the "free downloads" factor, the numbers start to get even more meaningless. I think the key for those selling Linux is to get manufacturers to preinstall it. The only copies of Linux I have ever bought have been computers that have Linux preinstalled (e.g. Dell).
You have given me plenty of things to look at to compare with the random comments I have been hearing.
I hope that your comments are moderated up enough that people see your response to my ponderings.