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That's bullshit, BSD has plenty of hippies working on it, and did in the past. And, fyi, I don't know many hippies who are drug addicts, have VD, or any magnetization problems. I quote from the FreeBSD FAQ:
Q. Has anyone done any temperature testing while running FreeBSD? I know Linux runs cooler than dos, but have never seen a mention of FreeBSD. It seems to run really hot.
A. No, but we have done numerous taste tests on blindfolded volunteers who have also had 250 micrograms of LSD-25 administered beforehand. 35% of the volunteers said that FreeBSD tasted sort of orange, whereas Linux tasted like purple haze. Neither group mentioned any particular variances in temperature that I can remember. We eventually had to throw the results of this survey out entirely anyway when we found that too many volunteers were wandering out of the room during the tests, thus skewing the results. I think most of the volunteers are at Apple now, working on their new ``scratch and sniff'' GUI. It's a funny old business we're in!
I downloaded the guinea pig - at first I was worried, since it's been rotting for about a month in my living room, but I suppose it won't bite anyone. I think it's a pretty cool concept, but that still doesn't mean I want my replica of myself to die - he's just about to reach the pinnacle of his career. I've already had several people die - drowning is pretty common, especially if you tell them to take a swim without any ladders to exit the pool...>;)
My first traumatic Sim Death was when I discovered a burnt out light bulb and had one of my favorite sims change it - only she had just taken a bath. Keeled over dead straight away. That really sucked. Fun game though.
There are lots of things about the BeOS interface I don't like, but I really like the design and performance aspects. I've been very impressed with the ease of use as far as configurability, and the multitasking performance.
Interestingly, she also found that 21% of the games portrayed violence towards women.
Oh, whatever. Why didn't she find that 79% of video games portrayed violence against men? Women are in fighting games, so what - they have somewhat equal representation, and if they weren't there, there'd be complaints that women weren't actually portrayed at all, much less being portrayed being attacked.
They make it sound like there's some game out there where the object is to batter women. All the women in these games fight back, and Kitana always kicks my ass, but then again, I'm not very good.
Now I won't say that beating up on a woman in a fighting game won't negatively influence some people, especially ones that are rather stupid to begin with, but I think that it's going a little too far and misrepresenting the facts when the study talks about 'violence against women', using it as a hotbutton phrase.
Explain to me how someone can steal my code. In my experience, even after someone takes my code, I still have it. I don't need to protect my freedoms any further.
Absolutely. WinCE makes far more sense for the application, or perhaps embedded NT, which has been popping up in some WinTerms. Currently I use NCD ThinStars, but I'll probably be looking at Wyse and TeleVideo when it's time for more. I wouldn't have considered using Wyse if they were still on Linux.
You seem to have missed his point, that not all free software is Linux. He's not going against the herd(and not 'deliberately', as you put it, insinuating that he's not giving his actual opinions), although I would applaud him if he did - I'm rather sick of the flock of Linux supporters myself, who routinely bash all closed software, and ignore most non-GPL OSS projects.
If you think that somehow slashdot has been invaded by bunches of anti-OSS people who are getting moderated way up on the basis of their rebellious opinions, sorry, but you're a fucking loon. Slashdot is the same Slashdot it has always been, full of Linux groupies.
Of course a world dominated by Linux (or other Free Software) would be better than a world dominated by Windows. It's all about Freedom.
Freedom of what? Freedom to use the only choice available to you? Yay! If you're going to get down on the original poster for not giving details on why Linux is not fit for embedded use on terminals(as you 'put aside' the question of why NetBSD would be viable), you're going to need to explain what your odd vision of 'freedom' is. I don't think that I would feel free in such an environment, and would much rather have as many choices and competitors as possible, using different development models.
-lx
(dear secret closed-source brothers: moderate this up)
That's not true - BeOS 5 stands alone just fine. You can burn a CD directly from the image, use the boot disk to mount the cd, and install it on its own partition. You can also use the boot disk to go directly to BeOS even if its running from a file on a FAT partition.
For crying out loud, does it not occur to people that someone might possibly have said that before? That possibly it's been the title of every other jackassed BeOS article in the media for the last 4 years?
Wrong. First, Linux is not derived from Minix. Secondly, it is not a microkernel, by Linus' own admission. For a while, he lamented having not designed Linux to be a microkernel based OS like Minix, until he decided to be an ass and start slamming Tannebaum all over the place, at which point he somehow converted to thinking monolithic kernels were leet. And no shit you can replace smtp and http servers without rebooting - the fact that those 2 things are not in the kernel doesn't make it a microkernel.
About 90% of the software on my BeOS system is freeware, not shareware. Compared to the Windows/Mac world, there's a ton of freeware, and much of it is of better quality than gpl'd linux programs.
The free version is much more crippled then Be had led everyone to believe.
You obviously weren't paying attention. These limitations have been known about for months, and there is already a story on BeNews on how to get around them.
I use tcsh as well. It seems to be one of the more straightforward shells. I don't like how things are done in Bash, and Zsh, while nice, seems mostly apt for programmer use. Tcsh is a darn good standard shell - it moves you around, does standard csh scripting, runs programs, has job control. If you don't need more, don't change...
(especially not to ksh where you have to hit esc twice to complete a name:P)
Yeah, my story was apparently way off. The one I heard had to do with their BBS posting a hacker-type document revealing something about the 911 system people didn't want known, or something like that. I guess if you read the story, though, it turns out that one of the employees had a BBS at home that had Phrack posted on it, so maybe there's some truth in it.
That's all fine and well, but you're leaving out the virtues of high throughput and reliability. Where do those fit into your handy cluster? The 2 do not compare.
Go away. You give us a bad name. If you don't know enough to know that BSD is not unix anymore than Linux is, except by virtue of association, don't talk about it. We already have enough "I use BSD cause I am a 31337 h4X0r!" types in the community. Linux is still shit, of course, but if you can't say it in an intelligent manner, don't say it at all.
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That's bullshit, BSD has plenty of hippies working on it, and did in the past. And, fyi, I don't know many hippies who are drug addicts, have VD, or any magnetization problems. I quote from the FreeBSD FAQ:
Q. Has anyone done any temperature testing while running FreeBSD? I know Linux runs cooler than dos, but have never seen a mention of FreeBSD. It seems to run really hot.
A. No, but we have done numerous taste tests on blindfolded volunteers who have also had 250 micrograms of LSD-25 administered beforehand. 35% of the volunteers said that FreeBSD tasted sort of orange, whereas Linux tasted like purple haze. Neither group mentioned any particular variances in temperature that I can remember. We eventually had to throw the results of this survey out entirely anyway when we found that too many volunteers were wandering out of the room during the tests, thus skewing the results. I think most of the volunteers are at Apple now, working on their new ``scratch and sniff'' GUI. It's a funny old business we're in!
huh? Are you saying that growing up means that you lose your appreciation for music?
-lx
I downloaded the guinea pig - at first I was worried, since it's been rotting for about a month in my living room, but I suppose it won't bite anyone. I think it's a pretty cool concept, but that still doesn't mean I want my replica of myself to die - he's just about to reach the pinnacle of his career. I've already had several people die - drowning is pretty common, especially if you tell them to take a swim without any ladders to exit the pool...>;)
My first traumatic Sim Death was when I discovered a burnt out light bulb and had one of my favorite sims change it - only she had just taken a bath. Keeled over dead straight away. That really sucked. Fun game though.
-lx
There are lots of things about the BeOS interface I don't like, but I really like the design and performance aspects. I've been very impressed with the ease of use as far as configurability, and the multitasking performance.
-lx
Interestingly, she also found that 21% of the games portrayed violence towards women.
Oh, whatever. Why didn't she find that 79% of video games portrayed violence against men? Women are in fighting games, so what - they have somewhat equal representation, and if they weren't there, there'd be complaints that women weren't actually portrayed at all, much less being portrayed being attacked.
They make it sound like there's some game out there where the object is to batter women. All the women in these games fight back, and Kitana always kicks my ass, but then again, I'm not very good.
Now I won't say that beating up on a woman in a fighting game won't negatively influence some people, especially ones that are rather stupid to begin with, but I think that it's going a little too far and misrepresenting the facts when the study talks about 'violence against women', using it as a hotbutton phrase.
-lx
why I'm so brilliant and most everyone else is a moron. I don't go outside.
-lx
Explain to me how someone can steal my code. In my experience, even after someone takes my code, I still have it. I don't need to protect my freedoms any further.
-lx
Think there was a Street Fighter as well.
-lx
Um, D-cup and even E-cup and higher natural women do exist. They're just not as skinny as angelina jolie. Anyhow, it's not the size, it's the form.
-lx
Man, first the avengers, now the Prisoner - stop making good shows into shite movies, people!
-lx
Well, technically you can, I regularly run Word thru a webpage. One with a Citrix ICA java client built in :)
-lx
Absolutely. WinCE makes far more sense for the application, or perhaps embedded NT, which has been popping up in some WinTerms. Currently I use NCD ThinStars, but I'll probably be looking at Wyse and TeleVideo when it's time for more. I wouldn't have considered using Wyse if they were still on Linux.
-lx
You seem to have missed his point, that not all free software is Linux. He's not going against the herd(and not 'deliberately', as you put it, insinuating that he's not giving his actual opinions), although I would applaud him if he did - I'm rather sick of the flock of Linux supporters myself, who routinely bash all closed software, and ignore most non-GPL OSS projects.
If you think that somehow slashdot has been invaded by bunches of anti-OSS people who are getting moderated way up on the basis of their rebellious opinions, sorry, but you're a fucking loon. Slashdot is the same Slashdot it has always been, full of Linux groupies.
Of course a world dominated by Linux (or other Free Software) would be better than a world dominated by Windows. It's all about Freedom.
Freedom of what? Freedom to use the only choice available to you? Yay! If you're going to get down on the original poster for not giving details on why Linux is not fit for embedded use on terminals(as you 'put aside' the question of why NetBSD would be viable), you're going to need to explain what your odd vision of 'freedom' is. I don't think that I would feel free in such an environment, and would much rather have as many choices and competitors as possible, using different development models.
-lx
(dear secret closed-source brothers: moderate this up)
Yup, works just fine. As I understand it, changing the word "TNT" to "TNT2" somewhere in the OS was all that was necessary. :)
-lx
That's not true - BeOS 5 stands alone just fine. You can burn a CD directly from the image, use the boot disk to mount the cd, and install it on its own partition. You can also use the boot disk to go directly to BeOS even if its running from a file on a FAT partition.
-lx
For crying out loud, does it not occur to people that someone might possibly have said that before? That possibly it's been the title of every other jackassed BeOS article in the media for the last 4 years?
-lx
Wrong. First, Linux is not derived from Minix. Secondly, it is not a microkernel, by Linus' own admission. For a while, he lamented having not designed Linux to be a microkernel based OS like Minix, until he decided to be an ass and start slamming Tannebaum all over the place, at which point he somehow converted to thinking monolithic kernels were leet. And no shit you can replace smtp and http servers without rebooting - the fact that those 2 things are not in the kernel doesn't make it a microkernel.
-lx
About 90% of the software on my BeOS system is freeware, not shareware. Compared to the Windows/Mac world, there's a ton of freeware, and much of it is of better quality than gpl'd linux programs.
-lx
The free version is much more crippled then Be had led everyone to believe.
You obviously weren't paying attention. These limitations have been known about for months, and there is already a story on BeNews on how to get around them.
-lx
Or maybe they're just posting what they think, and counting on slashdot/linux/OSS people to make themselves look stupid.
:)
-lx
I use tcsh as well. It seems to be one of the more straightforward shells. I don't like how things are done in Bash, and Zsh, while nice, seems mostly apt for programmer use. Tcsh is a darn good standard shell - it moves you around, does standard csh scripting, runs programs, has job control. If you don't need more, don't change...
:P)
(especially not to ksh where you have to hit esc twice to complete a name
-lx
Yeah, my story was apparently way off. The one I heard had to do with their BBS posting a hacker-type document revealing something about the 911 system people didn't want known, or something like that. I guess if you read the story, though, it turns out that one of the employees had a BBS at home that had Phrack posted on it, so maybe there's some truth in it.
-lx
That's all fine and well, but you're leaving out the virtues of high throughput and reliability. Where do those fit into your handy cluster? The 2 do not compare.
-lx
Go away. You give us a bad name. If you don't know enough to know that BSD is not unix anymore than Linux is, except by virtue of association, don't talk about it. We already have enough "I use BSD cause I am a 31337 h4X0r!" types in the community. Linux is still shit, of course, but if you can't say it in an intelligent manner, don't say it at all.
-lx
I meant XFree 4. Bleah, I thought they were doing some major framework stuff, and that that was included. Oh well.
(it needs to be)
-lx