Quite a few groups can benefit from dual monitors; developers, writers, graphic artists, finance people, HR folks, legal people... I'm gaving a hard time thinking of anyone who wouldn't, unless it's the sort of receptionist who never does anything besides look up phone numbers.
One of the worst things about XFree86 becoming the primary public face for X was their lack of dual monitor support (though this gradually changed). Many vendors had multiple monitor support; the best example I personally worked with was AIX in the early 90s. I recall testing AIX systems with 4 and 6 monitors in both 1 and 2 dimensional configurations, often using extremely dissimilar graphics cards and monitors.
I currently have two monitors (via Matrox 450) on my desktop. Three would be even better, and 4 ideal. I'd love to have a 3x2 monitor array in the computer room (to monitor several hundred systems, the network, the power, etc). We may well do something with DMX for that.
(OK, what I'd really like is a 3x2 holographic display of same in my cube, but that's another/. discussion!)
At least the IT professionals would. We had only three Windows users until customer interoperability requirements forced us to use Office and Project, which means Windows for anyone in management even vagely related to those projects. If we could buy Office and Project for Linux today, I could move over half of my Windows users back to Linux, and the rest (save three) back to OSX.
Assuming, of course, that it was a proper product, and not some horrible, kludgy, barely tested piece of garbage like the *nix ports of Front Page server that were around in the late 90s. We tried really hard to make that work at my then employer, but eventually concluded it was MS's little joke on the *nix community.
Anyway, yes, there is definitely a market. I bet there's even a home market if the price is reasonable.
Either way, it's time now. How many of these can we fit in a 1U front panel and still have room for air inlets at reasonable volume, lights and switches? And preferably a video connector and two USB ports?
Right. That explains why we can easily get Project for OS X.
Oh, wait, we can't. What was that you said, Mr. Hates?
[Yes, I think his name is an off by one error.]
If it weren't for needing Project (because we do believe in interoperability with our customers) we could get rid of 75% of our Windows systems today. Those folks would all rather be on OSX or Linux.
He wrote this for a bunch of "mysterious customers". He had every reason to believe this was going to be used for at best slimy purposes, if not flat out malicious and illegal purposes.
If I were going to write a bulk mailer, I'd make very sure of whom it was going to and the purposes for which it would be used.
You can build legal firearms to be used for legal purposes and take reasonable efforts to sell thrm through appropriate channels; if a few morons choose to use them illegally, I won't hold you responsible. But if you start building shoulder fired missles for "mysterious customers", and they shoot down an airplane, I do hold you responsible.[1]
He could have found other work. But he didn't want other work, he wanted to write software. OK, I can understand that. But he chose to write the wrong thing for the wrong customers. He chose to do this. He should be helpd accounatble.
Depending on the law du jour, he may or may not be a criminal, per se, but he's a scum-sucking pig. A jackass. He's aiding and abetting thieves, extortionists and con artists. He's as guilty as a guy who helps plan an armed robbery and drives the getaway car.
He's a prime example of why we need to bring back three things to the justice system:
1) Public flogging
2) Public stocks
3) Restitution
And I speak as one who's been laid off twice in the computer industry and wondered for months how to feed my family. We survived, and I didn't have to compromise, pursue armed robbery, or aid and abet spammers and scammers to do it.
Let's not forget, te focus here is "business desktops". Not "development desktops". That means we need 100% interoperability with a variety of MS document formats, including:
- Word
- Excel
- PowerPoint
- Project
Word and Excel are mostly there, but PPT is iffy, and I'm not aware of anything for the OSS desktop that is 100% (or even close to that) interoperable with Ms. Project. If someone can point me to solutoins to those two problems (PowerPoint, Project), especially if there are free or reasonably priced, well supported versions for both Linux and OSX, we'd be down to 3 WIndows users within a week (from 10-12).
Darl has it bass-ackwards - SCO is the bandit here... Maybe he's trying to position himself to run for POTUS (President Of The USa). He'd certainly fit in this year. 8^(
Everyone wants to sell me a solution. Solutions cost more, produce more profit, and tie me to the vendor. In most cases, I don't need or want their solution; I just want and need their product.
But there are times I want solutions, and solutions cost more. They come with uptime, top notch support, etc. When there's a problem, they often know it before we do, and notify us how and when it wil be solved.
For our compute farm and desktops we buy products. For our networked mass storage, we buy solutions. To date that's been NetApp. but it could easily be something like the DS6000.
At home I'll roll my own networked mass storage. At work, no way. I want uptime and throughput. I want redundancy and integration. I want someone showing up immediately, if not sooner, to resolve problem, which better be few and far between.
That costs more. Sometimes that's the right answer.
If you seriously got into arguments over pronuciation, I have to ask why you were in school, and why the professor or teacher didn't have control of the classroom. That's just a really stupid thing to waste time on. Either whoever's in charge mandats a pronunciation (hopefully after finding out the correct one 8^), or you agree to let people pronounce it however they like, so long as everyone knows what they mean, and move on.
If nothing else, you'll understand vi much better. 8^/
I disagree. Some customers will pick GNOME, others will pick KDE, and others (like us) will let the users decide. We're a technical company with a base of strong Linux users who have a strong preference for their desktop; we believe the users are more productive with what they know.
Certainly there should be a default, but at this point I have to agree with the interviewee that having both is a good idea.
Having just recently installed SuSe 9.1 Pro for evaluation (we've been a RedHat shop for several years), I'd say there's still work to be done on how to pick a desktop and making things seemless (integration with ?dm, etc), but they're getting there.
Hmmm. That's a rather difficult conclusion to reach if you really read the article and think about it. Alex accepted the blame where he messed up, and noted other places he wasn't sure about.
The fact is,the other person should not have reposted someone else's blog entry without permisison.
The article was quite insightful. Hopefully it will lead to a better process.
Since they're promising it's compatible with Longhorn (due out in 2137AD), they have clearly developed time travel. I would have thought that the better lead, even on slashdot!
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Gnome is pretty much Gnome, KDE is pretty much KDE. I did end up with both a KDE and a GNOME "home" icon on my GNOME desktop, but I had some issues related to conversion from legacy SLackware and RedHat config file sin my home directory, plus I installed in a couple of stages, so it's hard to say whose fault that is.
I prefered the version of GNOME that came in RH8, but the new one is plenty GNOMish under SuSe. I'm less familiar with KDE, but it certainly looks and feels like KDE to me.
Since I'm running SuSe on a 500MHz system, I explored all the desktops, then switched back to ctwm. 8^/
FWIW, we also have a couple of dual Opterons at work running 8.0 Enterprise (or whatever they call it). KDE and GNOME also seemed pretty normal there.
We put Linux and Macs everywhere we can. We run Windows only where we have no choice (as in interfacing with clients who use MS apps). So we have a handful of Windows systems (mostly laptops), one Windows server (required for Great Plains), and everything else, front and back, is Linux, Mac or Solaris.
Frankly, I don't know any of the "dopes" you refer to. Most IT people who use Linux (BSD, whatever) have Linux on their own desktops if they can, but otherwise start in the server room.
Both at the gateway and the SMTP server, it seems like sifting through junk to find what matters, and determining common ancestry would be useful anti-spam measures.
At least until the spammers figured out how to make spam look so much like certain types of legit email that we started losing good email...
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His 12 year old writes better than the average senior in high school, unless daddy did some heavy editing. That girl should be writing books by the time she finishes her senior year. Perhaps she can write a textbook for high school English, _How to Write Better than the Average Ape_.
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Nonsense. First, there's no such thing as idiot-proofing; a better quality of idiot will always show up.
But beyond that, what doe sthe average user do when confronted with "First 10 out of 12 billion", and the first 9 billion are all commercial sites, but they wanted to know how the thing works?
And the fact is that you can't find everything with google.
It took me a long time to give in to start using google as my default, but I still routinely use other engines. There are times when nothing on the planet works as well as altavista's advanced search. And times when yahoo is the answer, period.
I can figure this stuff out, no sweat. My kids can, too. My mom? She needs help. And my wife just wants it to work-- if she has to experiment to get something on a computer to work, she is not going to use it.
Absolutely. Back when spam was first taking off, there was a place to pledge never to do business with spammers. I have stuck with that for lo, these many years.''
But telemarketers... you need to tell them you won't buy from them or join them or whatever. I've done this on a number of occasions. ``Look, I currently do xyzzy business with your company. If I ever get another unsolicited phone call from your company or a rep, I will never do business with you again. Is that clear? Please make sure this gets passed along to the appropriate people. Thank you.''
It seems to help. Of coursem you have to be ready to follow through.
I shouldn't have to do anything to not be hassled by these morons. There should be a may-call list. If I want to be bothered by cold calls, I can opt-in. They can run a lottery, and once a day some luckyt may-call winner gets $1,000 or something. That will give them a decent sized pool of suckers.
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If a handful of major governments would just post some big bounties for these idiiots, the problem would oson solve itself.
Quite a few groups can benefit from dual monitors; developers, writers, graphic artists, finance people, HR folks, legal people... I'm gaving a hard time thinking of anyone who wouldn't, unless it's the sort of receptionist who never does anything besides look up phone numbers.
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One of the worst things about XFree86 becoming the primary public face for X was their lack of dual monitor support (though this gradually changed). Many vendors had multiple monitor support; the best example I personally worked with was AIX in the early 90s. I recall testing AIX systems with 4 and 6 monitors in both 1 and 2 dimensional configurations, often using extremely dissimilar graphics cards and monitors.
I currently have two monitors (via Matrox 450) on my desktop. Three would be even better, and 4 ideal. I'd love to have a 3x2 monitor array in the computer room (to monitor several hundred systems, the network, the power, etc). We may well do something with DMX for that.
(OK, what I'd really like is a 3x2 holographic display of same in my cube, but that's another
At least the IT professionals would. We had only three Windows users until customer interoperability requirements forced us to use Office and Project, which means Windows for anyone in management even vagely related to those projects. If we could buy Office and Project for Linux today, I could move over half of my Windows users back to Linux, and the rest (save three) back to OSX.
Assuming, of course, that it was a proper product, and not some horrible, kludgy, barely tested piece of garbage like the *nix ports of Front Page server that were around in the late 90s. We tried really hard to make that work at my then employer, but eventually concluded it was MS's little joke on the *nix community.
Anyway, yes, there is definitely a market. I bet there's even a home market if the price is reasonable.
Or is it past time?
Either way, it's time now. How many of these can we fit in a 1U front panel and still have room for
air inlets at reasonable volume, lights and switches? And preferably a video connector and two USB ports?
Right. That explains why we can easily get Project for OS X.
Oh, wait, we can't. What was that you said, Mr. Hates?
[Yes, I think his name is an off by one error.]
If it weren't for needing Project (because we do believe in interoperability with our customers) we could get rid of 75% of our Windows systems today. Those folks would all rather be on OSX or Linux.
No, and no.
He wrote this for a bunch of "mysterious customers". He had every reason to believe this was going to be used for at best slimy purposes, if not flat out malicious and illegal purposes.
If I were going to write a bulk mailer, I'd make very sure of whom it was going to and the purposes for which it would be used.
You can build legal firearms to be used for legal purposes and take reasonable efforts to sell thrm through appropriate channels; if a few morons choose to use them illegally, I won't hold you responsible. But if you start building shoulder fired missles for "mysterious customers", and they shoot down an airplane, I do hold you responsible.[1]
He could have found other work. But he didn't want other work, he wanted to write software. OK, I can understand that. But he chose to write the wrong thing for the wrong customers. He chose to do this. He should be helpd accounatble.
[1] I'm not comparing spam to bulk murder.
"Morally challenged?" That's a load of sewage.
Depending on the law du jour, he may or may not be a criminal, per se, but he's a scum-sucking pig. A jackass. He's aiding and abetting thieves, extortionists and con artists. He's as guilty as a guy who helps plan an armed robbery and drives the getaway car.
He's a prime example of why we need to bring back three things to the justice system:
1) Public flogging
2) Public stocks
3) Restitution
And I speak as one who's been laid off twice in the computer industry and wondered for months how to feed my family. We survived, and I didn't have to compromise, pursue armed robbery, or aid and abet spammers and scammers to do it.
Let's not forget, te focus here is "business desktops". Not "development desktops". That means we need 100% interoperability with a variety of MS document formats, including:
- Word
- Excel
- PowerPoint
- Project
Word and Excel are mostly there, but PPT is iffy, and I'm not aware of anything for the OSS desktop that is 100% (or even close to that) interoperable with Ms. Project. If someone can point me to solutoins to those two problems (PowerPoint, Project), especially if there are free or reasonably priced, well supported versions for both Linux and OSX, we'd be down to 3 WIndows users within a week (from 10-12).
Darl has it bass-ackwards - SCO is the bandit here... Maybe he's trying to position himself to run for POTUS (President Of The USa). He'd certainly fit in this year. 8^(
Everyone wants to sell me a solution. Solutions cost more, produce more profit, and tie me to the vendor. In most cases, I don't need or want their solution; I just want and need their product.
But there are times I want solutions, and solutions cost more. They come with uptime, top notch support, etc. When there's a problem, they often know it before we do, and notify us how and when it wil be solved.
For our compute farm and desktops we buy products. For our networked mass storage, we buy solutions. To date that's been NetApp. but it could easily be something like the DS6000.
At home I'll roll my own networked mass storage. At work, no way. I want uptime and throughput. I want redundancy and integration. I want someone showing up immediately, if not sooner, to resolve problem, which better be few and far between.
That costs more. Sometimes that's the right answer.
The first thing I did after being hired as IT Manager was change my title. Problem solved.
(I'm only half kidding. It does affect mindset!)
His name is Fred, and he wants them to serve his friend, who's a frayed knot...
If you seriously got into arguments over pronuciation, I have to ask why you were in school, and why the professor or teacher didn't have control of the classroom. That's just a really stupid thing to waste time on. Either whoever's in charge mandats a pronunciation (hopefully after finding out the correct one 8^), or you agree to let people pronounce it however they like, so long as everyone knows what they mean, and move on.
If nothing else, you'll understand vi much better. 8^/
I disagree. Some customers will pick GNOME, others will pick KDE, and others (like us) will let the users decide. We're a technical company with a base of strong Linux users who have a strong preference for their desktop; we believe the users are more productive with what they know.
Certainly there should be a default, but at this point I have to agree with the interviewee that having both is a good idea.
Having just recently installed SuSe 9.1 Pro for evaluation (we've been a RedHat shop for several years), I'd say there's still work to be done on how to pick a desktop and making things seemless (integration with ?dm, etc), but they're getting there.
Why doesn't te phpMyFaq page have a FAQ?
Hmmm. That's a rather difficult conclusion to reach if you really read the article and think about it. Alex accepted the blame where he messed up, and noted other places he wasn't sure about.
The fact is,the other person should not have reposted someone else's blog entry without permisison.
The article was quite insightful. Hopefully it will lead to a better process.
Since they're promising it's compatible with Longhorn (due out in 2137AD), they have clearly developed time travel. I would have thought that the better lead, even on slashdot!
Gnome is pretty much Gnome, KDE is pretty much KDE. I did end up with both a KDE and a GNOME "home" icon on my GNOME desktop, but I had some issues related to conversion from legacy SLackware and RedHat config file sin my home directory, plus I installed in a couple of stages, so it's hard to say whose fault that is.
I prefered the version of GNOME that came in RH8, but the new one is plenty GNOMish under SuSe. I'm less familiar with KDE, but it certainly looks and feels like KDE to me.
Since I'm running SuSe on a 500MHz system, I explored all the desktops, then switched back to ctwm. 8^/
FWIW, we also have a couple of dual Opterons at work running 8.0 Enterprise (or whatever they call it). KDE and GNOME also seemed pretty normal there.
We put Linux and Macs everywhere we can. We run Windows only where we have no choice (as in interfacing with clients who use MS apps). So we have a handful of Windows systems (mostly laptops), one Windows server (required for Great Plains), and
everything else, front and back, is Linux, Mac or Solaris.
Frankly, I don't know any of the "dopes" you refer to. Most IT people who use Linux (BSD, whatever) have Linux on their own desktops if they can, but otherwise start in the server room.
The majority of the private schools I'm aware of in the Austin and ATlanta areas are eother not for profit or non-profit (most seem to be the latter).
Both at the gateway and the SMTP server, it seems like sifting through junk to find what matters, and determining common ancestry would be useful anti-spam measures.
At least until the spammers figured out how to make spam look so much like certain types of legit email that we started losing good email...
His 12 year old writes better than the average senior in high school, unless daddy did some heavy editing. That girl should be writing books by the time she finishes her senior year. Perhaps she can write a textbook for high school English, _How to Write Better than the Average Ape_.
Nonsense. First, there's no such thing as idiot-proofing; a better quality of idiot will always show up.
But beyond that, what doe sthe average user do when confronted with "First 10 out of 12 billion", and the first 9 billion are all commercial sites, but they wanted to know how the thing works?
And the fact is that you can't find everything with google.
It took me a long time to give in to start using google as my default, but I still routinely use other engines. There are times when nothing on the planet works as well as altavista's advanced search. And times when yahoo is the answer, period.
I can figure this stuff out, no sweat. My kids can, too. My mom? She needs help. And my wife just wants it to work-- if she has to experiment to get something on a computer to work, she is not going to use it.
My mom and wife are far from alone.
Absolutely. Back when spam was first taking off, there was a place to pledge never to do business with spammers. I have stuck with that for lo, these many years.''
But telemarketers... you need to tell them you won't buy from them or join them or whatever. I've done this on a number of occasions. ``Look, I currently do xyzzy business with your company. If I ever get another unsolicited phone call from your company or a rep, I will never do business with you again. Is that clear? Please make sure this gets passed along to the appropriate people. Thank you.''
It seems to help. Of coursem you have to be ready to follow through.
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I shouldn't have to do anything to not be hassled by these morons. There should be a may-call list. If I want to be bothered by cold calls, I can opt-in. They can run a lottery, and once a day some luckyt may-call winner gets $1,000 or something. That will give them a decent sized pool of suckers.
And it would get them off my property.