The problem is that most installers don't seem to be able to handle this properly. Sure, if you know what you're doing, it's a piece of cake when you run "make install". But if you're using rpm or whatever, it's typically either not there or not intuitive. Especially in the GUI world.
Where do most novices coming in from the Windows world live/ GUI land. Imagine that.
I would strongly urge you to do both. Get a cheap computer and install Linux on it at home or at work (2 computers is even better, plus a Windows and Mac box, but go with what you can). Install RedHat if that's what you'll be using at work, otherwise go with whatever you like. (I think SuSe is a rising star for business, though!)
Then sign up for a course. For your main course, do not choose an e-course. You want to sit in a classroom with a real instructor on their network.
Meanwhile, play with your Linux stuff at home/work, and write down all your questions. Ask them at the class if they don't get covered there.
If you can find anyone with an old set of _Unix Review_ magazines, read those. There is a ton of excellent info there.
Look into the local Unix and Linux groups, and check those out. Since you don't seem to have a good relationship with a guru, you can at least start getting to know some - and they will come in handy.
Finally, I love anything at all by O'Reilly (www.ora.com). They really are responsible for a huge percentage of the *nix knowledge a lot of us know. There are other good books, too, but ORA has more of the good stuff than anyone else.
I expected very little. Oddly enough, I got even less. 8^/
It's been over a decade since I had anything to do with these guys. A company I worked for in the early 90s was to do some contract work for them. They were sleazy enough that our company decreed we would never deal with them again. I was not aware of any other company who drove us to such a decision.
Personally, I wouldn't trust them any farther than I could throw their Long Island building. Which was a pretty depressing place, too...
Put it in my back yard!
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That was my first thought. Put one in my back yard; I get free energy, and I can sell the excess to the neighbors. I bet they'd do a better job of keepin their dogs out of our yard, too!
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Sure, make it the default option, but I think something like RedHat's firewall options at installation (none, medium, high, setting iptables config) is even better. Apache gets run on intranets as well, and in some cases, full security is exactly the wrong thing.
This is easy enough to do; you ship several versions of the config file, and copy the one corresponding to the requested security level to the default filename. Include docs on using the others.
Reading the summary, I was intriqued, cautiosly hopeful, ready to get excited. But their web site is woefully inadequate and the other links had very little more info.
I work for a small IP company. We have at least a dozen people, probably 2-3x that, who could use what this sounded like it would be. But I don't see what I was promised. I see...
A GUI front end to databases. Better than OO, but still... A MS-only app (we're 80% linux, 10% Win and 10% Mac on the desktop). Bzzzt. They want real money for this. Didn't see a free trial.
A this point I can't tell who their target audience is, other than MS-based, frustrated database and Access/Excel users with too much moneyt and too few clues. They could be the best things since google, but they seemingly don't want me to know.
Well, at least now I understand why it was crucial for the Australian government to ban guns!
``Honey, we got another 400 political spams. I spent 20 minutes waiting for downloads, another 10 cleaning out the spam, and I think I accidentally deleted your mother's thoughts on our inheritance in the process.''
``That's it. Where's my rifle? Dundee and them been saying it's time for a revolution, and I guess they're right.''
Did you read the article? They had it working on Linux and HPUX! So it wasn't just intended for Windows.
Next, so what? Whether you can "blame" MS or not has nothing to do with/.worthiness.
My favproite quote was ``"...we don't own Windws'', says Redmond.''
My next favorite: ``Virus Throttling only springs into action after a virus has penetrated an organization's network, which made it "more difficult to sell," he says.''
It's not a hard sell to a company that's just been brought to its knees! I was at [nevermind whom] when one of the major virii hit in 2001 (CodeRed? I forget). The network was literally unavailable for at least a day and a half, and this company's bloodstream was its network. If HP had walked in with Virus Throttler, they could have named about any price.
At least, if it worked with Windows. 8^(
That was the one time it didn't help much to have a non-Win system (we had plenty of Solaris, and some Linux and Mac systems). Because two many of us had the mandated Windows box. Even though everyone in my group was effectively immune, having turned off all the extra crap... But having a Solaris server did help; our group's SA put up a DNS server and a few other things, and we limped along better than most.
OK, I'll agree the average/.er knows. But the average parent is at least as clueless about these things as the neophyte teen.
I think in some cases, a good answer is the parent reading the book, then discussing things with their teen. In others, just read the book, then have your teen read it. Maybe quiz them as part of their test before getting their "internet license" (giving them access).
One of the nice things about the Barracuda is that I can configure it as a spam filter or a firewall.[1] I can decide whether to have certain mails stopped at the border, or dumped in a special box, or passed through (and optionally tagged).
In fact, you can do all this with free software as well. It's just that the free software was freaking out on us, and requiring way too much handholding. We were losing email, and having huge delays.
The Barracuda (which we found through a/. ad, so/. isn't a complete waste of time! 8^) has done a great job so far. For the first week, I put 1-2 hours in per day going through the list, training things. Then I dropped down to 1 hour a week for a couple of weeks. Now I spend very little time on it. It's great.
Is it perfect? No? But most of my complaints are niceties in the GUI, so it's still well ahead of where we were before trying to maintain things ourselves.
This may be a new, rockin' way to detect spam, but if so, they need to pitch it better. They're focusing on the wrong things, IMO. I have an enterprise to run, and marketing jive doesn't cut it.
It's a bunch of guys in suits that sit around a big table and smoke cigars and discuss the world economy, which is based on boxtops. In an emergency, they call in Bullwinkle Moose and Rocket J. Squirrel.
This kind of crap has me thinking more and more frequently about leaving high tech and starting a ranch in Montana, or becoming a beach bum. Pretty soon it will be dangerous to breathe without consulting a lawyer.
He has some good insights in some areas, but in others he comes off as an opinionated jerk. yes, there are problems with centralized anti-spam. But the problem is the *spam*. The sheer weight and cost are one of the biggest 3 or 4 problems the internet faces right now. By his logic we should get rid of the police forces as well (granted that some of them need a revamp!) Then he can decide, when 50 people all jump him to take his millions, which of them he doesn't mind being stabbed by.
While I agree that it's nuts to trust an open system on the internet these days (though it should not be!), there are plenty of folks out there (including brilliant scientists) who still don't realize the danger. It's too bad nobody with a clue had some oversight.
OTOH, I think this would be a great rallying point to bring together a multinational task force, or at least some headhunters under public sanction, to start going after the scum who screw people over on their networks. It's against the law for me to break into your house. If I do this, I'm liable to go to jail and/or pay a fine. IN a rational society I would also be liable to pay restitution, but that's another story.
If I break into your house and destroy everything you own, I'm liable for big trouble. If, in the process, I do things which could endanger you, I'm liable for bigger trouble.
There are very few reasons to have a disposable digital camera, and fewer good ones. You could just as easily make the thing "renewable". The only difference in that concept and this one is that it's not disposable - it gets reused. You buy the camera for $20, you take it to the store, they stick it in the magic machine to get images and reset it, you get the camera back with the prints (or even when you drop off for processing).
The primary reason for a disposable is that we live in a selfish, stupid society. Lots of folks will buy a disposable for $20, when they wouldn't buy a non-disposable for $20. ``I already have a camera, I just forgot it, I don't need a cheap one.'' Fine, give it to your kid! Give it to a mission group. Give it to a school. Give it to the guy who wants to stick LCD guages all over his house (elsewhere in this topic). Someone will take it. If it's used 10 times before it breaks (I wonder what the true life expectancy of this system would be if it wasn't intended for death row), that's a phenomenal savings in materials, land fill capacity, etc.
But making things intentionally disposable merely plays to our devolutionary tendancies. ```Let's screw the planet up as quickly as possible.''
That would be ideal, but it's also illegal. Youc annot sell as new something that has been preowned. You'd have to sell it as refurbished.
Now at $20 a pop for new, what's the price point for a refurb? If it's too close to $20, you'll hardly sell any. If it's very much below that, new sales drop, and the camera mfrs are angry and raise prices on the imaging equipment.
You cad always call them ReFurbies and stick a cute sticker on them, but then you'd have to pay a royalty...
Anything even vaguely gnuish was probably using a similar process. I know the X11 project did. Yeah, it was more centralized, but so was Linus's original setup. His merely evolved into what it is now, as did many others. The GIMP did something similar in the same time frame, except that the original authors bowed out completely.
Actually, I found this fact very interesting. (Are you a lost marketer instead of a geek? 8^)
Another fact I'd forgotten, but which the article jarred loose with a related reference: the UHF TV band is ridiculously sparse in the USA. Is there any area left with 10 UHF channels? What's the max in any area? If it's 10, give 'em all a year or two to retune and warn their listeners, and move onto one of 10 channels, instead of the 70 or so we have now. That would free up some space.
Augusta, GA has two VHF stations and two UHF stations. Talk about radio white space...
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The problem is that most installers don't seem to be able to handle this properly. Sure, if you know what you're doing, it's a piece of cake when you run "make install". But if you're using rpm or whatever, it's typically either not there or not intuitive. Especially in the GUI world.
Where do most novices coming in from the Windows world live/ GUI land. Imagine that.
I would strongly urge you to do both. Get a cheap computer and install Linux on it at home or at work (2 computers is even better, plus a Windows and Mac box, but go with what you can). Install RedHat if that's what you'll be using at work, otherwise go with whatever you like. (I think SuSe is a rising star for business, though!)
Then sign up for a course. For your main course, do not choose an e-course. You want to sit in a classroom with a real instructor on their network.
Meanwhile, play with your Linux stuff at home/work, and write down all your questions. Ask them at the class if they don't get covered there.
If you can find anyone with an old set of _Unix Review_ magazines, read those. There is a ton of excellent info there.
Look into the local Unix and Linux groups, and check those out. Since you don't seem to have a good relationship with a guru, you can at least start getting to know some - and they will come in handy.
Finally, I love anything at all by O'Reilly (www.ora.com). They really are responsible for a huge percentage of the *nix knowledge a lot of us know. There are other good books, too, but ORA has more of the good stuff than anyone else.
I expected very little. Oddly enough, I got even less. 8^/
It's been over a decade since I had anything to do with these guys. A company I worked for in the early 90s was to do some contract work for them. They were sleazy enough that our company decreed we would never deal with them again. I was not aware of any other company who drove us to such a decision.
Personally, I wouldn't trust them any farther than I could throw their Long Island building. Which was a pretty depressing place, too...
That was my first thought. Put one in my back yard; I get free energy, and I can sell the excess to the neighbors. I bet they'd do a better job of keepin their dogs out of our yard, too!
Sure, make it the default option, but I think something like RedHat's firewall options at installation (none, medium, high, setting iptables config) is even better. Apache gets run on intranets as well, and in some cases, full security is exactly the wrong thing.
This is easy enough to do; you ship several versions of the config file, and copy the one corresponding to the requested security level to the default filename. Include docs on using the others.
Reading the summary, I was intriqued, cautiosly hopeful, ready to get excited. But their web site is woefully inadequate and the other links had very little more info.
I work for a small IP company. We have at least a dozen people, probably 2-3x that, who could use what this sounded like it would be. But I don't see what I was promised. I see...
A GUI front end to databases. Better than OO, but still...
A MS-only app (we're 80% linux, 10% Win and 10% Mac on the desktop). Bzzzt.
They want real money for this. Didn't see a free trial.
A this point I can't tell who their target audience is, other than MS-based, frustrated database and Access/Excel users with too much moneyt and too few clues. They could be the best things since google, but they seemingly don't want me to know.
Well, at least now I understand why it was crucial for the Australian government to ban guns!
``Honey, we got another 400 political spams. I spent 20 minutes waiting for downloads, another 10 cleaning out the spam, and I think I accidentally deleted your mother's thoughts on our inheritance in the process.''
``That's it. Where's my rifle? Dundee and them been saying it's time for a revolution, and I guess they're right.''
Did you read the article? They had it working on Linux and HPUX! So it wasn't just intended for Windows.
/.worthiness.
Next, so what? Whether you can "blame" MS or not has nothing to do with
My favproite quote was ``"...we don't own Windws'', says Redmond.''
My next favorite:
``Virus Throttling only springs into action after a virus has penetrated an organization's network, which made it "more difficult to sell," he says.''
It's not a hard sell to a company that's just been brought to its knees! I was at [nevermind whom] when one of the major virii hit in 2001 (CodeRed? I forget). The network was literally unavailable for at least a day and a half, and this company's bloodstream was its network. If HP had walked in with Virus Throttler, they could have named about any price.
At least, if it worked with Windows. 8^(
That was the one time it didn't help much to have a non-Win system (we had plenty of Solaris, and some Linux and Mac systems). Because two many of us had the mandated Windows box. Even though everyone in my group was effectively immune, having turned off all the extra crap... But having a Solaris server did help; our group's SA put up a DNS server and a few other things, and we limped along better than most.
OK, I'll agree the average /.er knows. But the average parent is at least as clueless about these things as the neophyte teen.
I think in some cases, a good answer is the parent reading the book, then discussing things with their teen. In others, just read the book, then have your teen read it. Maybe quiz them as part of their test before getting their "internet license" (giving them access).
We could dress up as Americans and throw tea in the harbor... or sand in their gas tanks... or grenades in their toilets... or...
No, I don't think I'm out of control. I think the industry is out of control, and the government's going right along with it (both major parties).
One of the nice things about the Barracuda is that I can configure it as a spam filter or a firewall.[1] I can decide whether to have certain mails stopped at the border, or dumped in a special box, or passed through (and optionally tagged).
/. ad, so /. isn't a complete waste of time! 8^) has done a great job so far. For the first week, I put 1-2 hours in per day going through the list, training things. Then I dropped down to 1 hour a week for a couple of weeks. Now I spend very little time on it. It's great.
In fact, you can do all this with free software as well. It's just that the free software was freaking out on us, and requiring way too much handholding. We were losing email, and having huge delays.
The Barracuda (which we found through a
Is it perfect? No? But most of my complaints are niceties in the GUI, so it's still well ahead of where we were before trying to maintain things ourselves.
This may be a new, rockin' way to detect spam, but if so, they need to pitch it better. They're focusing on the wrong things, IMO. I have an enterprise to run, and marketing jive doesn't cut it.
[1] It's a dessert wax and a floor topping!
It's a bunch of guys in suits that sit around a big table and smoke cigars and discuss the world economy, which is based on boxtops. In an emergency, they call in Bullwinkle Moose and Rocket J. Squirrel.
Don't you ever watch TV?
This kind of crap has me thinking more and more frequently about leaving high tech and starting a ranch in Montana, or becoming a beach bum. Pretty soon it will be dangerous to breathe without consulting a lawyer.
He has some good insights in some areas, but in others he comes off as an opinionated jerk. yes, there are problems with centralized anti-spam. But the problem is the *spam*. The sheer weight and cost are one of the biggest 3 or 4 problems the internet faces right now. By his logic we should get rid of the police forces as well (granted that some of them need a revamp!) Then he can decide, when 50 people all jump him to take his millions, which of them he doesn't mind being stabbed by.
While I agree that it's nuts to trust an open system on the internet these days (though it should not be!), there are plenty of folks out there (including brilliant scientists) who still don't realize the danger. It's too bad nobody with a clue had some oversight.
OTOH, I think this would be a great rallying point to bring together a multinational task force, or at least some headhunters under public sanction, to start going after the scum who screw people over on their networks. It's against the law for me to break into your house. If I do this, I'm liable to go to jail and/or pay a fine. IN a rational society I would also be liable to pay restitution, but that's another story.
If I break into your house and destroy everything you own, I'm liable for big trouble. If, in the process, I do things which could endanger you, I'm liable for bigger trouble.
Why isn't this true for computers and networks?
There are very few reasons to have a disposable digital camera, and fewer good ones. You could just as easily make the thing "renewable". The only difference in that concept and this one is that it's not disposable - it gets reused. You buy the camera for $20, you take it to the store, they stick it in the magic machine to get images and reset it, you get the camera back with the prints (or even when you drop off for processing).
The primary reason for a disposable is that we live in a selfish, stupid society. Lots of folks will buy a disposable for $20, when they wouldn't buy a non-disposable for $20. ``I already have a camera, I just forgot it, I don't need a cheap one.'' Fine, give it to your kid! Give it to a mission group. Give it to a school. Give it to the guy who wants to stick LCD guages all over his house (elsewhere in this topic). Someone will take it. If it's used 10 times before it breaks (I wonder what the true life expectancy of this system would be if it wasn't intended for death row), that's a phenomenal savings in materials, land fill capacity, etc.
But making things intentionally disposable merely plays to our devolutionary tendancies. ```Let's screw the planet up as quickly as possible.''
That would be ideal, but it's also illegal. Youc annot sell as new something that has been preowned. You'd have to sell it as refurbished.
Now at $20 a pop for new, what's the price point for a refurb? If it's too close to $20, you'll hardly sell any. If it's very much below that, new sales drop, and the camera mfrs are angry and raise prices on the imaging equipment.
You cad always call them ReFurbies and stick a cute sticker on them, but then you'd have to pay a royalty...
I've been thinking of banning all operating systems that don't give me some Texas city, for choosing my time zone.
Alas, if I did this, we'd be stuck with banning computers.
Actually, I thought that was the best quote in the interview. Bill Gates with a pointy hat and wand, cursing the known universe...
Anything even vaguely gnuish was probably using a similar process. I know the X11 project did. Yeah, it was more centralized, but so was Linus's original setup. His merely evolved into what it is now, as did many others. The GIMP did something similar in the same time frame, except that the original authors bowed out completely.
Nobody who ever used SCO software (such as - what was it called? Xenix?) could possibly forget it. You end up scarred for life.
Now we just need DataBus and we're all set.
(TTFOT is a novel about AI in which the demo uses little drones like this to maintain itself.)
Actually, I found this fact very interesting. (Are you a lost marketer instead of a geek? 8^)
Another fact I'd forgotten, but which the article jarred loose with a related reference: the UHF TV band is ridiculously sparse in the USA. Is there any area left with 10 UHF channels? What's the max in any area? If it's 10, give 'em all a year or two to retune and warn their listeners, and move onto one of 10 channels, instead of the 70 or so we have now. That would free up some space.
Augusta, GA has two VHF stations and two UHF stations. Talk about radio white space...
Did you read the article? It explains why the spectrum is no longer as limited as you believe.
This isn't 1904 any more!
My spies swear it's zork. The text has never been so tricky to read (mauve-black on taupe-black), making this one vicious game.