That may be, but I was running the GeForce beta driver for vista, and even with all of that mem usage, the performance was anything but snappy.
Now, I realize a lot of the slowdown was lack of ATA driver support for my motherboard, but with the amount of preload that it was using, I was very underwhelmed by the results.
That is my experience at small liberal arts schools, but every large state school I have hit recently, I hear people saying things like "If I have nothing to hide I don't care if people spy on me", "All mexicans (not just illegals) should be deported", among things like "We need to support the president even if he was wrong about our reason for getting ibnto this war". My only consolation is that most of these people also espouse that "I do not vote because it does not change anything".
I have a system less than a year old at home that kicks the crap out of my work PC and Vista STILL runs like a dog on it, I fail to see how my work PC that just barely chugs along on XP will EVER run vista, aero turned off or not.
As far as turning off aero, have you ever dealt with a user who's "screen saver" did not look as spiffy as the next guys? On the helpdesk I work at, I estimate a full 5% of the calls are users caling in for such 'vanity' purposes. One guy gets vista, they will ALL want vista, and will keep calling until they get it.
I tried RC1 over the weekend. With a 2 ghz processor and 1 gb RAM, at Idle I was pushing 70% physical RAM usage and a constant 10% load on the processor. I wrestled with Neverwinter Nights till it ran and the graphics lag was unbearable, not unplayable, but when it runs qwuite smoothly on the same system with XP or 2K3 server, there is an issue.
You obviously do not talk to many 16-22 year olds, some of the views they espouse are frightening. I chalk it up to going through school systems where surveillance, random searches, and cops in the halls are normal things. They have been desensitized to the tools of the police state, and it is starting to show.
The only time I ever considered Slackware I took one look at the docs, read the bit about 2.4 kernel and threw the disk in the bin. I think that was Slackware 9.?? but everyone else was just releasing the first 2.6 kernels even then. Why do they still go 2.4 by default now?
Well, you could always just compile your own Kernel. Takes maybe an hour all told.
Or, even better, you can actually RTFM and see that you can easily select a 2.6 kernel during install, but I prefer compiling my own.
How does Slackware work with modern hardware? (Wifi, SATA, etc)
I concur here. It is not easy, but hell, if you want easy there is OS X and Windows. Using Slackware, customizing and tweaking it, you will learn, because, well, you HAVE to. However, it also allows you unparalelled customization without locking you into a specific format package manger. And if you cannot get a package to install, you can always just Use the Source.
It is funny, Using slackware, I always wondered what the big deal was with Gentoo users compiling thier own programs and such, until I tried Ubuntu one day and tried to compile something...
I agree that licensing is getting out of hand, but unless they storm your house and take your CD or burned media, how are they really going to stop you? With an MMO it is a bit different however. One could argue that you do own the ones and zeroes on the install media, but you pay a subscription fee to access company provided content that actually makes the game playable. If the Company folds, that content goes away.
However, if WoW were to close up shop tomorrow, I do not think it would be long till the server software were reverse engineered and you saw third party WoW providers out there. They exist for UO and EQ. But this is totally tangential to the point, as you are pretty much agreeing with me now.
Apples to Oranges. The point of the article is downloading the program you would normally get on the platter. I can pay for, download, and install WoW without leaving the comfort of my computer chair, and I can burn that installer and account key on a cd for backup purposes. If Blizzard were to pull the plug, I would still have that initial software that I paid for. I believe this is the point the OP was making, I am merely pointing out it is as big of a problem for ANY software.
Well, whenever I download anything I want to hold on to, I burn it to CD or DVD and write any registration info on it in indelible marker. That way if my hard drive crashes and something is wrong with my backup, I can just reinstall it.
So, like I said, it is the same problem with boxware, but I would be out less money usually.
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That may be, but I was running the GeForce beta driver for vista, and even with all of that mem usage, the performance was anything but snappy.
Now, I realize a lot of the slowdown was lack of ATA driver support for my motherboard, but with the amount of preload that it was using, I was very underwhelmed by the results.
I have a bad feeling about this.
Mst of the computers in my company only have half a gig.
That is my experience at small liberal arts schools, but every large state school I have hit recently, I hear people saying things like "If I have nothing to hide I don't care if people spy on me", "All mexicans (not just illegals) should be deported", among things like "We need to support the president even if he was wrong about our reason for getting ibnto this war". My only consolation is that most of these people also espouse that "I do not vote because it does not change anything".
Here is the problem.
I have a system less than a year old at home that kicks the crap out of my work PC and Vista STILL runs like a dog on it, I fail to see how my work PC that just barely chugs along on XP will EVER run vista, aero turned off or not.
As far as turning off aero, have you ever dealt with a user who's "screen saver" did not look as spiffy as the next guys? On the helpdesk I work at, I estimate a full 5% of the calls are users caling in for such 'vanity' purposes. One guy gets vista, they will ALL want vista, and will keep calling until they get it.
That is until you put Vista on it.
I tried RC1 over the weekend. With a 2 ghz processor and 1 gb RAM, at Idle I was pushing 70% physical RAM usage and a constant 10% load on the processor. I wrestled with Neverwinter Nights till it ran and the graphics lag was unbearable, not unplayable, but when it runs qwuite smoothly on the same system with XP or 2K3 server, there is an issue.
Even SL has a ratings system. Driven by users, but a ratings sysem nonetheless.
You obviously do not talk to many 16-22 year olds, some of the views they espouse are frightening. I chalk it up to going through school systems where surveillance, random searches, and cops in the halls are normal things. They have been desensitized to the tools of the police state, and it is starting to show.
It was an accidental moderation, due to the new mod system autoapplying mods, I meant to mod it funny. I am undoing my mods to this post.
Funny, I did not notice the MCSE in your sig.
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The only time I ever considered Slackware I took one look at the docs, read the bit about 2.4 kernel and threw the disk in the bin. I think that was Slackware 9.?? but everyone else was just releasing the first 2.6 kernels even then.
Why do they still go 2.4 by default now?
Well, you could always just compile your own Kernel. Takes maybe an hour all told.
Or, even better, you can actually RTFM and see that you can easily select a 2.6 kernel during install, but I prefer compiling my own.
How does Slackware work with modern hardware? (Wifi, SATA, etc)
See the 'compile your own kernel' comment.
I concur here. It is not easy, but hell, if you want easy there is OS X and Windows. Using Slackware, customizing and tweaking it, you will learn, because, well, you HAVE to. However, it also allows you unparalelled customization without locking you into a specific format package manger. And if you cannot get a package to install, you can always just Use the Source.
It is funny, Using slackware, I always wondered what the big deal was with Gentoo users compiling thier own programs and such, until I tried Ubuntu one day and tried to compile something...
What? Too good for FTP?
I agree that licensing is getting out of hand, but unless they storm your house and take your CD or burned media, how are they really going to stop you? With an MMO it is a bit different however. One could argue that you do own the ones and zeroes on the install media, but you pay a subscription fee to access company provided content that actually makes the game playable. If the Company folds, that content goes away.
However, if WoW were to close up shop tomorrow, I do not think it would be long till the server software were reverse engineered and you saw third party WoW providers out there. They exist for UO and EQ. But this is totally tangential to the point, as you are pretty much agreeing with me now.
Apples to Oranges. The point of the article is downloading the program you would normally get on the platter. I can pay for, download, and install WoW without leaving the comfort of my computer chair, and I can burn that installer and account key on a cd for backup purposes. If Blizzard were to pull the plug, I would still have that initial software that I paid for. I believe this is the point the OP was making, I am merely pointing out it is as big of a problem for ANY software.
Well, whenever I download anything I want to hold on to, I burn it to CD or DVD and write any registration info on it in indelible marker. That way if my hard drive crashes and something is wrong with my backup, I can just reinstall it.
So, like I said, it is the same problem with boxware, but I would be out less money usually.
If they were Fight Club, they would not be advertising.
Too bad you are using the Wikipedia definition, and Wikipedia is not research, it is gossip.
You have the same problem with boxed products, except you are probably out more of an investment.
I predict if they honor this and publicize it well, they will be bankrupt within two years.
Sounds like the current education system to me honestly.
Guy Fawkes masks in 4...3...2..
I love seeing people like you pwn the n00bs.
Pyrex WILL burn if you get it hot enough, I have done it.