It's not apt vs yum or rpm vs deb - it's how well the repository's maintained. apt has a good reputation because Debian's repository is superbly well maintained. But Fedora's yum repos are much better maintained than Fink's apt repos.
It's not the software, it's the repository quality. Actual humans making sure everything plays nicely.
I put the story in the queue as an insight into how a top-10 free content site run by a severely under-resourced charity does its stuff. And it's all over the press this morning, fwiw.
The first technical person was Brion, who'd done the job as a volunteer for quite a while before that.
I started editing Wikipedia in early 2004. I believe they'd just made the radical jump from one box to three boxes.
Now stuff is structured in a horizontally-expandable fashion. "Add some more Squids." "Add some more Apache servers." So a single platform is an obvious win, and picking one platform to standardise on is actually more important than which of various near-indistinguishable free Unix-like operating systems that could all do the job they pick.
Uh, whuh? You've obviously never had to herd a large number of machines. Most stuff running the same OS is the only way to live - jumpstart/kickstart, standard patch clusters, one local package repository server, that sorta thing.
(I do in fact do this for a living. Standardised Solaris 10 servers with Blastwave for the open-source toys, CentOS 4 when we need Linux, local repository servers for both. A few Windows boxes with a locally-served copy of Cygwin on them. May I heartily recommend Cygwin on any Windows servers you may be stuck with - it makes life so much saner.)
I believe the devs (the sysadmins at Wikimedia are also called "devs") experimented with a wide range of OSes - various Fedoras, Red Hat, Ubuntu, FreeBSD, Solaris 10, OpenSolaris - in various situations to see what was best to work with. This is a rationalisation from that.
Realistically, it's all Unix and it'll all do the job. So it then becomes a matter of picking one your team is comfortable with. With armchair sysadmins' distro wars, "perfect" is the enemy of "good" - there's nothing you can do with CentOS that you can't also do with Ubuntu, you eventually just have to pick a damn distro and stick with it.
See, I'd actually question that - in observable behaviour, they seem to consider absolute control a prerequisite to making money at all. So even though they may think they're thinking about money, control is what they actually work for.
WALL ALLEY, East Cheam, Tuesday - The global financial crisis may require a multi-billion pound injection of public money over coming days. Smaller institutions are now seeking help, such as the First National Bank of East Cheam.
Founded by Boris Busybody, 77 (IQ), of East Cheam earlier this month, the bank has put in urgent asset warnings with the Treasury. "Holdings are way down. Our assets are incredibly leveraged. Capital ratio's buggered. Our, er, co-la-ta-rul-ised debt obligations have us tied in knots. In knots! It's a tragedy, it is."
Mr Busybody has urged the Treasury to mount a rescue package immediately for the bank. âoeIf we go under, whoosh! It'd collapse the East Cheam banking sector. All them widows and orphans! You wouldn't believe it, honestly you wouldn't. Interbank lending's collapsed. I can't get any of 'em to cough up an overnight liquidity loan. Spare us five million quid, mate? Just till tomorrow. I'll be good for it. With Treasury backing."
Chancellor Alistair Darling responded to Mr Busybody's pleas with an offer to send Peter Mandelson around to discuss the matter. "Oh, er, that's all right then, we'll be fine, fine. Sorrytotroubleyou I'lljustgonow."
They're seeing competition from Microsoft according to MS's fans in the press. The market considers the Zune material for comedy. I was joking when I mentioned the possibility of a Zune phone...
To keep on-topic, Android's main function will be to lift the iPhone's game. Existing and not sucking will be a win for Android and Google. Then, as others have noted, someone will come up with a killer Android app that leaves Apple playing catchup as they've pissed off too many developers. Interesting times and a win for credible competition. Which Microsoft just isn't in this space.
Just imagine failed bankers going into spam instead. All Hot SUBPRIME MORTGAGES! Collateralised V!K@GKR@ Obligations! You will search an hour for your underwear in the ocean of your debt!
Imagine the creativity that will be applied to hacking consoles with actual money - any actual money whatsoever - as an incentive. You thought bot runners were bad on PC games? Look at online poker.
As Intel tried to implement with the Celeron: the innovator's dilemma is that if you don't cannibalise your own market, your competitors will.
"rich user experience"? They sound like Microsoft, and I'm afraid about as believable. The phrase sounds like an ad for Vista. A "sparse user experience" is a feature. Netbooks are just utterly compelling objects. Even the Eee, with its tiny keyboard and 800x480 screen. Anyone who's used one will laugh directly in the face of someone vaguely wibbling about the lack of a "rich user experience." No-one will care until stuff becomes famous for not working on these things.
What practical activities are they thinking of that can't be done on a netbook? Be specific.
I suspect it's also because Obama came out in favour of the bill, so they wanted to follow that; but Bush is unpopular even with a lot of Republicans lately, so the Reps would need something to take home. This is of course conjecture.
Most of the resistance was from people who knew their constituents despised the bill and would have them taken out and shot if they didn't get some local pork in there. Hence version 2 passing.
(The trouble with pork is that securing pork is basically what a local governor, senator or representative's job actually is.)
"We owe it all to the bedrock of our economy: the ordinary hard-working taxpayer. You resisted the siren call of credit cards, lived within your means to save for a rainy day, never took out an interest-only mortgage, credit score to make Jesus cry. Without taking every penny you saved over the $100,000 guarantee, we'd never have made it. And the best bit is, we know you'll still vote Republican! God bless you all!"
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It's not apt vs yum or rpm vs deb - it's how well the repository's maintained. apt has a good reputation because Debian's repository is superbly well maintained. But Fedora's yum repos are much better maintained than Fink's apt repos.
It's not the software, it's the repository quality. Actual humans making sure everything plays nicely.
Ah, sorry, didn't correlate your Slashdot and Wikipedia names!
You actually have seniority over me, then ;-)
Note that's an analyst quote, not a Wikimedia quote. I'm not sure they actually bothered asking Brion.
I put the story in the queue as an insight into how a top-10 free content site run by a severely under-resourced charity does its stuff. And it's all over the press this morning, fwiw.
The first technical person was Brion, who'd done the job as a volunteer for quite a while before that.
I started editing Wikipedia in early 2004. I believe they'd just made the radical jump from one box to three boxes.
Now stuff is structured in a horizontally-expandable fashion. "Add some more Squids." "Add some more Apache servers." So a single platform is an obvious win, and picking one platform to standardise on is actually more important than which of various near-indistinguishable free Unix-like operating systems that could all do the job they pick.
Uh, whuh? You've obviously never had to herd a large number of machines. Most stuff running the same OS is the only way to live - jumpstart/kickstart, standard patch clusters, one local package repository server, that sorta thing.
(I do in fact do this for a living. Standardised Solaris 10 servers with Blastwave for the open-source toys, CentOS 4 when we need Linux, local repository servers for both. A few Windows boxes with a locally-served copy of Cygwin on them. May I heartily recommend Cygwin on any Windows servers you may be stuck with - it makes life so much saner.)
You wouldn't believe how much nicer Squid and MySQL look in Compiz.
I believe the devs (the sysadmins at Wikimedia are also called "devs") experimented with a wide range of OSes - various Fedoras, Red Hat, Ubuntu, FreeBSD, Solaris 10, OpenSolaris - in various situations to see what was best to work with. This is a rationalisation from that.
Realistically, it's all Unix and it'll all do the job. So it then becomes a matter of picking one your team is comfortable with. With armchair sysadmins' distro wars, "perfect" is the enemy of "good" - there's nothing you can do with CentOS that you can't also do with Ubuntu, you eventually just have to pick a damn distro and stick with it.
See, I'd actually question that - in observable behaviour, they seem to consider absolute control a prerequisite to making money at all. So even though they may think they're thinking about money, control is what they actually work for.
Heh. That's "feedback" as in "loud screeching noise which can destroy the system if it gets out of control"?
Now if only Sony and Nokia would realise that DRM is deeply despised and that marketing your stuff as "DRM-free" when it patently isn't is not a solution to this ... ah, the joys of major label control addiction. As Penn Jilette says: "I would make executives more concerned with making money. I'm serious."
WALL ALLEY, East Cheam, Tuesday - The global financial crisis may require a multi-billion pound injection of public money over coming days. Smaller institutions are now seeking help, such as the First National Bank of East Cheam.
Founded by Boris Busybody, 77 (IQ), of East Cheam earlier this month, the bank has put in urgent asset warnings with the Treasury. "Holdings are way down. Our assets are incredibly leveraged. Capital ratio's buggered. Our, er, co-la-ta-rul-ised debt obligations have us tied in knots. In knots! It's a tragedy, it is."
Mr Busybody has urged the Treasury to mount a rescue package immediately for the bank. âoeIf we go under, whoosh! It'd collapse the East Cheam banking sector. All them widows and orphans! You wouldn't believe it, honestly you wouldn't. Interbank lending's collapsed. I can't get any of 'em to cough up an overnight liquidity loan. Spare us five million quid, mate? Just till tomorrow. I'll be good for it. With Treasury backing."
Chancellor Alistair Darling responded to Mr Busybody's pleas with an offer to send Peter Mandelson around to discuss the matter. "Oh, er, that's all right then, we'll be fine, fine. Sorrytotroubleyou I'lljustgonow."
That would be the Factory Standard GPS Voice (Female).
Wikipedia is bigger than anyone dreamed ...
They're seeing competition from Microsoft according to MS's fans in the press. The market considers the Zune material for comedy. I was joking when I mentioned the possibility of a Zune phone ...
Microsoft's problem is that Apple is clearly much better at evil these days than they are. Microsoft used to have the best and most popular evil; these days they can't even successfully pay people to use their evil. And they've been trying for a while.
To keep on-topic, Android's main function will be to lift the iPhone's game. Existing and not sucking will be a win for Android and Google. Then, as others have noted, someone will come up with a killer Android app that leaves Apple playing catchup as they've pissed off too many developers. Interesting times and a win for credible competition. Which Microsoft just isn't in this space.
Spam will save the economy!
Just imagine failed bankers going into spam instead. All Hot SUBPRIME MORTGAGES! Collateralised V!K@GKR@ Obligations! You will search an hour for your underwear in the ocean of your debt!
Good Lord, Steve. Just patent PURE SHINY EVIL and be done with it.
Authentic Apple iEvil! Not that ersatz Zune Evil, hahahahaha! Get only the best evil!
Trusted client problem.
Imagine the creativity that will be applied to hacking consoles with actual money - any actual money whatsoever - as an incentive. You thought bot runners were bad on PC games? Look at online poker.
The guy who runs the 26 ton ball of molten metal. That's a Mad Scientist gleam in the eyes if ever I saw one.
Just what a ludicrous shower of shit the OOXML spec is. Check the comments on the boycottnovell post. Black humour aplenty.
As Intel tried to implement with the Celeron: the innovator's dilemma is that if you don't cannibalise your own market, your competitors will.
"rich user experience"? They sound like Microsoft, and I'm afraid about as believable. The phrase sounds like an ad for Vista. A "sparse user experience" is a feature. Netbooks are just utterly compelling objects. Even the Eee, with its tiny keyboard and 800x480 screen. Anyone who's used one will laugh directly in the face of someone vaguely wibbling about the lack of a "rich user experience." No-one will care until stuff becomes famous for not working on these things.
What practical activities are they thinking of that can't be done on a netbook? Be specific.
I suspect it's also because Obama came out in favour of the bill, so they wanted to follow that; but Bush is unpopular even with a lot of Republicans lately, so the Reps would need something to take home. This is of course conjecture.
Most of the resistance was from people who knew their constituents despised the bill and would have them taken out and shot if they didn't get some local pork in there. Hence version 2 passing.
(The trouble with pork is that securing pork is basically what a local governor, senator or representative's job actually is.)
"We owe it all to the bedrock of our economy: the ordinary hard-working taxpayer. You resisted the siren call of credit cards, lived within your means to save for a rainy day, never took out an interest-only mortgage, credit score to make Jesus cry. Without taking every penny you saved over the $100,000 guarantee, we'd never have made it. And the best bit is, we know you'll still vote Republican! God bless you all!"
By the way, your house is still worthless.
The next stage after talking out your ass.
These are important points in its favour :-) It's a fabulously nice place.
(Hell, I live in London. Where's not nice by comparison?)