People around here myself included easily critisize and complain about decisions of people who run companies.
Its easy, Hey you cant you see this is how to do it we say. Our perspective is from the trenches more or less.
I just dont think its all clear cut up on the upper echelon of big business either. Interfacing with Clients and the public is a *talen* just like interfacing with a computer and writing programs is a *talent*. Things can get very lopsided when you forget the kind of pressure some of these kinds of decisions are made under.
This is in NO WAY reffering to cowplands insider trading, just the supposed 'difficulties' hes caused it.
When you have the general public going 'Doh!' and you dont listen thats when you are making a mistake that everyone can see. But its not always clear cut, its just not always this is right this is wrong, stuff thats wrong may seem righta t the time etc, I just say cut companies slack you cant just drop a really huge change on a company like OpenSource development and expect it to take instantly, businesses DO have stock holders and families to feed, they have to evaluate strategize and incorporate sometihng and that has long lasting ramnifications so..
I say just cut some of these companies a lil slack some of the time they arent perfect.
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Point 1.) If this is being implemented into a console a ROM to boot the OS from makes perfect sense.
You want to pick a stable version of Linux and you never really want to change it, if so flash the ROM, this helps out with point number one and is kind of something you would want with a console isnt it?
Point 2.) OpenGL coupled with one specific video card in a setup like the NV20 with very well tuned system for OpenGL, also you could offer SDL something the Loki guys use for porting games to the *nix platform, seems pretty stable since a business more or less ports their games using it
Anyone who can write C, can pick up Ogl, and SDL rather easy, there is also an Open Audio library Loki has) So, I think that with a little work that issue is already solved no since in reinventing the wheel, maybe highly tune each of these for your specific hardware but its pretty much there isnt it?
Point 3.)Easy of programming, as I said if you can write C, it dont get much cooler than SDL, OpenGL and or Loki's open Audio library.
The things I would be worried about are making sure this thing is secure and just tuning the entire platform specifically to one set of hardware, it gives you much more freedom and ability to make stable a system
So boottime, system stability all of that when you can just pick and support ONE set of hardware period supporting it, coding it, tuning it just everything would become easier.
It sounds like a do-able project Sega did it.
Jeremy
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At tom's.. he has a interesting quote. on.... this page here
Basically he says that the NV20 is going to be fully designed around/for DirectX8 and then he goes to say most Manuf's havent caught up to DX7 which leads him to think that MS may be leading their nose some.
he ends the page with some trailing dots......
Whether his assumptions are true or not its fairly easy to just show the flaws in the logic by pointing out all of the things you did it still is an interesting sitaution
But credit where credit is due:)
Jeremy
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Linux has already been ported to 64Bit architectures.
Linux can already run x86 instructions.
So really the asquired knowledge is already there no real ground breaking stuff, just porting to a new architecture, *nixes are used to do this.. nothing new to see here move along move along;)
I am partially kidding, its not really new moving to a new architecture its just exciting because its x86 and it is widely accepted by the rest of the world.
Jeremy
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The WebTV browswer does suck, but if you design a site with glitz and glamor but keep some real simple design rules in mind such as functionality before 'cool stuff' then WebTV is not so bad, they do a nice browswer in the limited space they have, I test with it all the time on our app.. it works, its not great but if you design functionally its not like the end of the world
*shrug*
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The native interface to Oracle is *much* quicker. Having used Native drivers to Oracle on ColdFusion machines I can definately say it works quicker than ODBC.
At my work we write scalable applications and in the near future I would like to sit down with a copy of Oracle, tune the hell out of it and spend a week optimizing the atabases, PostgreSQL and Oracle, and MsSQL 7.0 because Benchmarking just one system like a Database is not really telling, Stick it on one of my Cluster of ColdFusion machines and lets see if the DB can keep up with the rest of my Application.. THEN I will be impressed not until then.
I read the TPC Benchmarks I even know how they work, but they still seem useless to me because We cant afford some 70K / Year Oracle DB Admin to come and constnatly Tune our Databases for us, if I cant learn enough to get it resonably well configured in a certain time frame I will go with something that *CAN* handle the load, and if only Oracle can ( which I dont believe ) Then we would be forced to find a solution that performs, But I have a copy of DB2 as well and you guys would be very suprised at the little places support for Databases come from.
I have read and installed ColdFusion on Linux and in the documentation and release notes Allaire has instructions on how to set up Both MySQL *AND* PostgreSQL via ODBC, so its not like a native driver, but it is support and I find it rather impressive that a big company that is more or less leading the way for commercial web application development platforms reaches out to support both MySQL and PostgreSQL.
My opinon is if you cant do much with the database what good is it?
Jeremy
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Its just not a really fair representaiton since they used OLD MySQL, and they used lame drivers for interbase giving the only competition to be the two closed proprietary databses which we can assume are... Oracle and SQL ? Or is that what they want us to think, I dont know, im gonna compare those numbers to some tests we run at my work.. I amnot sure if postgres is all that just yet, but ive always had a suspicion it can really perform.
*is lame and replies to peoples sig's*;)
I just wanted to say Dylan Thomas was cool and that is pretty much my favorite poem:)
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Anyone with half a talent could write up a windows program that runs more or less invisibly, having access to the companies NT servers he could distribute this as maybe say a service to do anything he wanted even remote controlled.. whatever...
Or a windows program that runs in the back ground hidden from view whatever
Thats going to be about as hidden as a Linux process doing something naughty or the Linux kernel acting up..
What was he trying to say? Blame Linux for irresponsible employee's oh yeah.. that makes sense.
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There is a reason.. probably because they want to see how well this will hold up
Pick a company like Microsoft with enough products to make you cry. MS could dig something from somewhere that does what the adobe product does most likely:-P directly suing them is stupid where as suing Macromedia over this is probably going to be a bit harder for Macromedia but easy enough:-P
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There is a theoretical maximum as to how fast the processors are going to be using current tech.
Meaning you can only make the circuitry so small before the juice running in them just jumps all over the place and well we arent exactly close but we arent a far cry from that either, so with current tech there is a theoretical limit which would 'break' moore's law (except you can just cluster the heck outta stuff for more power..
Now then, Quantum computing and other advances may make this a moot point however, what if we dont get there soon enough? You mean we may have to optimize code again? Well if that became the case I think the software industry would fall over, because huge corporations like MS already dont spend enough time debugging their software.. *ugh*
Anyhow Jeremy
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IF I have a swimming pool in my backyard, and I do not go to reasonable lengths to protect my neighbors children from them and a child drowns in my pool, I am liable.
If I have a dog and it bites someone, its my fault
If I write a virus and it wipes your hard drive, im not responsible?
A more proper scenario, I have a program that I have waivers of liability on and its a program many people use because it is useful but I become disgruntled and in one release it formats everyones hard drives at a certain time
Since waivers are there I am protected?
Needless to say never trust anything open source right? Well let me ask when was the last time you read the source of the program, chances are closed/open source the existence of such things will not be detected any quicker. So.. where does that leave us you have to draw a line in the sand somewhere, where should that be?
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That is like a universal truth I had just come to accept until I found out about FreeBSD / Debian.
RPM install dont work library problems
You are now library hunter, a legendary hunter of magical power devices taht make your programs work you will hunt in foreign countries (webservers) for arcane symbols and pattenrs(Gziped source files) to translate them int oa fuel source (compiling them) for your most masterful creation, the programn you wished to execute.
hmmn.. at least thats what I dreamed one night after setting up GNOME back in the.8 days. *shudders*
Then I woke up staring at some yellow n black xterm having a hard time telling which was the dream.
Jeremy
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You make corporations now a days sound like some embodiments of evil out to take away all of our privacy and market to us in our dreams.. hmmn oh wait
Seriously, if I write a critical article and I point out hard, technical facts to back up my claim there is *ZERO* basis for the suit and it should be thrown out.
And I think if there is a clearly defined technical logic behind your 'slander' or 'libel'... Then the suing company will know and be much more wary because losing a lawsuit even at the expense of 20K to you can spell total disaster for a corporation to lose a court battle, whats left? Your paper you wrote with all of its content free to be viewed. No they do not lose often but if and when corporations do lose.. its hurts them a lot more than the slight legal fee's it tookj to sue you so it is still a gamble, and I think the little guys still have a decent chance at standing up to corporations... right now
Jeremy
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The typical user runs in 800x600 with 16bpp color or less.
This is based on real world demographics I have used from about 50 million page views of 'non'-geek oriented websites.. meaning stuff your average consumer makes it to.
800x600 further more is sufficient for those tasks.. anyways my two cents.
Jeremy
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*yawn* Everyone misses the one cool point about a watch like this
If.. the battery life can be turned into something reasonable..
This thing can update the time for itself like windows does, it can tell when you change time zones via GPS and always know to change times and update itself for spring/fall
Or just having a way to communicate with some of these cellular phone networks to sync its time(that is probably a whole new ball of wax tho:)
I think the trick is getting the battery life to something reasonable while keeping the time updates real time..
I am not familiar with ARM processors, is this feasible anyone?
Jeremy
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After all, did you ever run Netscape 0.9, the prerelease version of Netscape 1.0? It was horrid, horrid, and evil, and made Mosaic look like the future of the Net. Or, ever run early versions of IE? My GOD, the hooror that was IE before way into version 3.x still haunts me in my dreams.
That is one of the main problems right now actually.. Netscape used
to be the only game in town and you just lived with netscape because it was the best.
IE5 is out there and it is better than anything else so why suffer through something of lesser quality when now we have a choice and do not have to.
It is a good question...
Average consumer standpoint cares nothing about downloading the source as most of you know so IE is just as cool as Netscape.. *sigh*
Jeremy
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This is a rant, not really directed at this post.
People around here myself included easily critisize and complain about decisions of people who run companies.
Its easy, Hey you cant you see this is how to do it we say. Our perspective is from the trenches more or less.
I just dont think its all clear cut up on the upper echelon of big business either. Interfacing with Clients and the public is a *talen* just like interfacing with a computer and writing programs is a *talent*. Things can get very lopsided when you forget the kind of pressure some of these kinds of decisions are made under.
This is in NO WAY reffering to cowplands insider trading, just the supposed 'difficulties' hes caused it.
When you have the general public going 'Doh!' and you dont listen thats when you are making a mistake that everyone can see. But its not always clear cut, its just not always this is right this is wrong, stuff thats wrong may seem righta t the time etc, I just say cut companies slack you cant just drop a really huge change on a company like OpenSource development and expect it to take instantly, businesses DO have stock holders and families to feed, they have to evaluate strategize and incorporate sometihng and that has long lasting ramnifications so..
I say just cut some of these companies a lil slack some of the time they arent perfect.
Jeremy
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Alrighty, I will take a stab at this
Point 1.) If this is being implemented into a console a ROM to boot the OS from makes perfect sense.
You want to pick a stable version of Linux and you never really want to change it, if so flash the ROM, this helps out with point number one and is kind of something you would want with a console isnt it?
Point 2.) OpenGL coupled with one specific video card in a setup like the NV20 with very well tuned system for OpenGL, also you could offer SDL something the Loki guys use for porting games to the *nix platform, seems pretty stable since a business more or less ports their games using it
Anyone who can write C, can pick up Ogl, and SDL rather easy, there is also an Open Audio library Loki has) So, I think that with a little work that issue is already solved no since in reinventing the wheel, maybe highly tune each of these for your specific hardware but its pretty much there isnt it?
Point 3.)Easy of programming, as I said if you can write C, it dont get much cooler than SDL, OpenGL and or Loki's open Audio library.
The things I would be worried about are making sure this thing is secure and just tuning the entire platform specifically to one set of hardware, it gives you much more freedom and ability to make stable a system
So boottime, system stability all of that when you can just pick and support ONE set of hardware period supporting it, coding it, tuning it just everything would become easier.
It sounds like a do-able project Sega did it.
Jeremy
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Yes I read it. I did not intend for my post to be one sided. Argh. I am sorry, thank you for pointing that out.
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Hmmn
......
:)
At tom's.. he has a interesting quote. on.... this page here
Basically he says that the NV20 is going to be fully designed around/for DirectX8 and then he goes to say most Manuf's havent caught up to DX7 which leads him to think that MS may be leading their nose some.
he ends the page with some trailing dots
Whether his assumptions are true or not its fairly easy to just show the flaws in the logic by pointing out all of the things you did it still is an interesting sitaution
But credit where credit is due
Jeremy
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I shall hazard a reply :)
;)
Linux has already been ported to 64Bit architectures.
Linux can already run x86 instructions.
So really the asquired knowledge is already there no real ground breaking stuff, just porting to a new architecture, *nixes are used to do this.. nothing new to see here move along move along
I am partially kidding, its not really new moving to a new architecture its just exciting because its x86 and it is widely accepted by the rest of the world.
Jeremy
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Its simple, its functional.
;)
The name implies strength
You dont forget about it
Those are most of the major tenets of a good trade mark / advertisement.
I like it
Jeremy
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Credit where its due
The WebTV browswer does suck, but if you design a site with glitz and glamor but keep some real simple design rules in mind such as functionality before 'cool stuff' then WebTV is not so bad, they do a nice browswer in the limited space they have, I test with it all the time on our app.. it works, its not great but if you design functionally its not like the end of the world
*shrug*
Jeremy
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This is very very true.
The native interface to Oracle is *much* quicker. Having used Native drivers to Oracle on ColdFusion machines I can definately say it works quicker than ODBC.
At my work we write scalable applications and in the near future I would like to sit down with a copy of Oracle, tune the hell out of it and spend a week optimizing the atabases, PostgreSQL and Oracle, and MsSQL 7.0 because Benchmarking just one system like a Database is not really telling, Stick it on one of my Cluster of ColdFusion machines and lets see if the DB can keep up with the rest of my Application.. THEN I will be impressed not until then.
I read the TPC Benchmarks I even know how they work, but they still seem useless to me because We cant afford some 70K / Year Oracle DB Admin to come and constnatly Tune our Databases for us, if I cant learn enough to get it resonably well configured in a certain time frame I will go with something that *CAN* handle the load, and if only Oracle can ( which I dont believe ) Then we would be forced to find a solution that performs, But I have a copy of DB2 as well and you guys would be very suprised at the little places support for Databases come from.
I have read and installed ColdFusion on Linux and in the documentation and release notes Allaire has instructions on how to set up Both MySQL *AND* PostgreSQL via ODBC, so its not like a native driver, but it is support and I find it rather impressive that a big company that is more or less leading the way for commercial web application development platforms reaches out to support both MySQL and PostgreSQL.
My opinon is if you cant do much with the database what good is it?
Jeremy
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Its just not a really fair representaiton since they used OLD MySQL, and they used lame drivers for interbase giving the only competition to be the two closed proprietary databses which we can assume are... Oracle and SQL ? Or is that what they want us to think, I dont know, im gonna compare those numbers to some tests we run at my work.. I amnot sure if postgres is all that just yet, but ive always had a suspicion it can really perform. *is lame and replies to peoples sig's* ;)
:)
I just wanted to say Dylan Thomas was cool and that is pretty much my favorite poem
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The only thing different is Linuxites who started it called it IP Masq.. its just NAT unless something new has been done that I am not aware of
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Anyone with half a talent could write up a windows program that runs more or less invisibly, having access to the companies NT servers he could distribute this as maybe say a service to do anything he wanted even remote controlled.. whatever...
Or a windows program that runs in the back ground hidden from view whatever
Thats going to be about as hidden as a Linux process doing something naughty or the Linux kernel acting up..
What was he trying to say? Blame Linux for irresponsible employee's oh yeah.. that makes sense.
Jeremy
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I do not believe you guys give the 'joystick' playing mindless drones enough credit'
some of the absolutely best players I have met in Quake used a Joystick or a gamepad, not all but some.. anywhu
Jeremy
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Ahem, did we not learn anything about a Gold-Backed economy with what America went through when it became to large to be Gold_backed?
How is this different?
Jeremy
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There is a reason.. probably because they want to see how well this will hold up
:-P directly suing them is stupid where as suing Macromedia over this is probably going to be a bit harder for Macromedia but easy enough :-P
Pick a company like Microsoft with enough products to make you cry. MS could dig something from somewhere that does what the adobe product does most likely
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Someone moderate this up, it has more information than any 5 posts ont his article so far.
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There is a theoretical maximum as to how fast the processors are going to be using current tech.
Meaning you can only make the circuitry so small before the juice running in them just jumps all over the place and well we arent exactly close but we arent a far cry from that either, so with current tech there is a theoretical limit which would 'break' moore's law (except you can just cluster the heck outta stuff for more power..
Now then, Quantum computing and other advances may make this a moot point however, what if we dont get there soon enough? You mean we may have to optimize code again? Well if that became the case I think the software industry would fall over, because huge corporations like MS already dont spend enough time debugging their software.. *ugh*
Anyhow
Jeremy
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IF I have a swimming pool in my backyard, and I do not go to reasonable lengths to protect my neighbors children from them and a child drowns in my pool, I am liable.
If I have a dog and it bites someone, its my fault
If I write a virus and it wipes your hard drive, im not responsible?
A more proper scenario, I have a program that I have waivers of liability on and its a program many people use because it is useful but I become disgruntled and in one release it formats everyones hard drives at a certain time
Since waivers are there I am protected?
Needless to say never trust anything open source right? Well let me ask when was the last time you read the source of the program, chances are closed/open source the existence of such things will not be detected any quicker. So.. where does that leave us you have to draw a line in the sand somewhere, where should that be?
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LMAO Someone has Karma to burn.. ROFL modding posts randomly as insightful
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I really hope mainframe programming does not make everyone as rude as you.
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That is like a universal truth I had just come to accept until I found out about FreeBSD / Debian.
.8 days. *shudders*
RPM install dont work library problems
You are now library hunter, a legendary hunter of magical power devices taht make your programs work you will hunt in foreign countries (webservers) for arcane symbols and pattenrs(Gziped source files) to translate them int oa fuel source (compiling them) for your most masterful creation, the programn you wished to execute.
hmmn.. at least thats what I dreamed one night after setting up GNOME back in the
Then I woke up staring at some yellow n black xterm having a hard time telling which was the dream.
Jeremy
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I would say it depends on your article
You make corporations now a days sound like some embodiments of evil out to take away all of our privacy and market to us in our dreams.. hmmn oh wait
Seriously, if I write a critical article and I point out hard, technical facts to back up my claim there is *ZERO* basis for the suit and it should be thrown out.
And I think if there is a clearly defined technical logic behind your 'slander' or 'libel'... Then the suing company will know and be much more wary because losing a lawsuit even at the expense of 20K to you can spell total disaster for a corporation to lose a court battle, whats left? Your paper you wrote with all of its content free to be viewed. No they do not lose often but if and when corporations do lose.. its hurts them a lot more than the slight legal fee's it tookj to sue you so it is still a gamble, and I think the little guys still have a decent chance at standing up to corporations... right now
Jeremy
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What kind of world is it??
The typical user runs in 800x600 with 16bpp color or less.
This is based on real world demographics I have used from about 50 million page views of 'non'-geek oriented websites.. meaning stuff your average consumer makes it to.
800x600 further more is sufficient for those tasks.. anyways my two cents.
Jeremy
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*yawn* Everyone misses the one cool point about a watch like this
:)
If.. the battery life can be turned into something reasonable..
This thing can update the time for itself like windows does, it can tell when you change time zones via GPS and always know to change times and update itself for spring/fall
Or just having a way to communicate with some of these cellular phone networks to sync its time(that is probably a whole new ball of wax tho
I think the trick is getting the battery life to something reasonable while keeping the time updates real time..
I am not familiar with ARM processors, is this feasible anyone?
Jeremy
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After all, did you ever run Netscape 0.9, the prerelease version of Netscape 1.0? It was horrid, horrid, and evil, and made Mosaic look like the future of the Net. Or, ever run early versions of IE? My GOD, the hooror that was IE before way into version 3.x still haunts me in my dreams.
That is one of the main problems right now actually.. Netscape used to be the only game in town and you just lived with netscape because it was the best.
IE5 is out there and it is better than anything else so why suffer through something of lesser quality when now we have a choice and do not have to.
It is a good question...
Average consumer standpoint cares nothing about downloading the source as most of you know so IE is just as cool as Netscape.. *sigh*
Jeremy
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Just wait for some crazy MechE student's to get bored enough.
:-P
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