Ive already taken a few deliberate moderation hits today to be goofy but this is awesome:-) I love when/. gets people like Bjarne to do interviews. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. This is content generation at its best!:-)
I know this is a direct attack to your argument which I somewhat dislike (singling out a person).
So I will make this as a suggestion.
Skip over the articles. It doesnt hurt to see GNU Libc x.y.z is out and just not read it does it? I mean if it does I will complain for you;-) okay okay thats a little biting im just picking. How big of a deal is it. I know some people cruise FM all day but some of us COME to slash dot to hear what people got to say about software like this.
If there was a filter for *everything* people wanted hemos and taco would spend all day coding filters! use your brain it filters excellent.. I got so good I could totally ignore my wife
Just as a side note there are a few works such as this in progress. I know of at least one company attempting to design a 3D user environment. Basically everything you do (Research papers, C Source files etc. ) all exist in a 3 Dimensional space and to go grab the paper you have to navigate to it and open it up etc. Its an interesting approach.
Another suggested approach that has received a/. article was a sort of flat 'plane' that you just stick documents and eveyrthing was highly embedded with the desktop. You just navigate to the part of the 'plane' that has your document and you can 'open' it but everything is highly integrated look/feel. Those are some of the more interesting approaches.
Why is/. One hour ahead of US EST Time? I thought they were in michigan which is like 1hr behind my timezone which should make the posts appear at 9am, not 11am?
I cant see MS Office -> Star Office. MS Office is not THAT horrible. And star office is not even close to a even small leap in creativity / new productivity boosting features. If people come to it and go to MS Office its where they will stay I think. And.. its quite possible if MS DOES NOT do this something Free and something better is going to replace them anywhere! YOU better believe they will be doing Office for Linux.. Just try and beat their marketing. Thats the fun thing. Superior Product no problem. Converting people who will actually benefit from Linux? Hmmn...
NY Times has and will effeciently survive! Here is why.
Think about how many of you now have NY Times memberships?
They have established an online presence already, made a decent reputation by carrying good stories and have attracted a decent crowd of online users
If they were to ever start seriously losing paper sales to their website.. I can easily imagine the 'send us check money order or pop into our secure server and pay us 5 bucks a month for our news paper'.
It works so well ive been trying to point this out for a good while. They may lose quite a few of the free users but, they will still have a revenue stream and they will be what I would consider a media suvivalist.
I do buy the news paper locally as well.. I dont see slashdot reporting about the serial rapist and his description who is urnning around my neighborhood.
Abiword is the "coolest" word processor. They are releasing windows versions which I think is fabulous! You develop an awesome product and release it into windows for free. It needs more features but they come every day. Its very good for the windows release. This allows people to check it out! it exposes more people to different things. More people who are genuinely interested in learning about Linux are exposed to some of the nicer aspects of it:-) Its not for everyone yet and until someones gets a mindless point-click-drool thing going Oh well:-)
Everybody wants to be somebody. People want to be unique, maybe not to friends but somewhere as a human, (male) you want to be the best but often settle for far less. Some people have a lot more desire.
To each there own yes. Many people only want other people to realize they are individuals and that they are not like everyone else and no one else is 'just' like them
Its true EVERYONE is someone who is not like someone else who is not like me.
That said what do all of these stupid studies MEAN. Nothing they are beggining to feel like 'Benchmarks for Society'. (coin that phrase?)
Yeah I know its a bit dreamy.. people are somewhat predictable. But Everyone IS different.
I have a college text (Intro to technology) that defines hackers as an bad word. Saying they do malicious things etc. Bleh
I think its a very VERY prevalent miconception to all new computer users.
I run a mud and I get asked 'what are you doing?' My reply is usually 'hacking leave me alone:p'
Then they respond with 'whoa you run the mud but you are hacking your own mud...' *sighs*
Its like a lost cause outside of the community. For every person I sit down and explain it to 20 others wont ever hear the speech and will propogate to 20 of there friends what a hacker 'really' is *laugh*
Uhm.. You have left a gaping hole in that logic there. Such as interacting with people online is *nothing* compared to interacting with a person in the flesh. Hearing, seeing, feeling his ideas. Not just 'hearing' his ideas. Gimme a break. I think the internet is a tool and a revolutionary way to exchange information.. but not intimate feelings and not good way to interact with people. You lose a little to much if you sacrifice personal interaction for internet interaction with people. And until you have experienced both sides you never know whats missing.
I strongly beleive social skills and conversation CAN be learned and you CAN become comfortable with such things.
Its just a people interaction thing, and YES I think you need a degree of human interaction in your day. Or you lose touch with some important emotions.
Can you see me crying as I write this? Can you look into my eyes and hear my tone of voice and see how difficult something is to talk about to me?
Nope. Not unless you are a very eloquent and expressive writer and even then. A simple look on my face can convey more meaning than a well written paragraph. I like my time on the net as much as anyone else because I enjoy reading but it CANNOT and WILL not replace the fact that humans need personal interaction with other humans. Sure im interacting and I am making you think but I find it truly hard to beleive that you can find total personal fulfillment over the internet.
An additional thought that *IS* a dream until one toolit becomes *THE* toolkit. Along with saving the state of the user area and all. Every application has a standard interface and you can along with the user area snag the exact state of the application and in a somehow effecient manner write these to a file and when it crashes you can just restore the wordprocessor and spreadsheet.. and or web browser to what it was right before the crash.. But thats a pipe dream:-) But with almost all our major apps still open source maybe not?
This should NEVER replace good old fashioned debugging and writing clean and effecient code.
Have a daemon I imagine it can be quite lightweight. All this daemon does is monitors a few programs and in the event of a hard crash/lockup instead of the "I had to run to another machine and telnet in to Kill X" This little daemon just kicks X around for a few and restarts it.
Now the idea is *simple* enough sounding. Keep X running at any cost. How much actual interfacing with X is required I dont know?
Another question is how much would a daemon of this nature drag the system down
MY *guesses* are it would not be terribly overweight or inneffecient.
Perhaps it could also interface with GNOME and every maybe 5 seconds save the desktop and all of the applications that are open etc. And in the event of a crash it wil restore your desktop.. I dont think that is to far away
I know we bend the rules of statistics pretty heavily at my work:P we have 3 female programmers and 3 male programmers Including myself.. I think a *LOT* of it has to do with attitudes towards technology and computers. My Girlfriend had *never* even used a computer other than like once for a school project in HS. She was in her first year of college and I introduced them to her and she loves it.. She can geek out just as good as me or you or the next guy/err.. GAL. I think its just a problem of getting more women comfortable with computers and the social computers are for geeks stigma.. And I think many many more women would be into computers then.. Heh.. In theory ( JUST in theory now ) Women should make better programmers than men.. in practice I dont see this very often and I still cant figure it out. But womens brains should be able to cope with programming better since they use more of there brain at once and dont clearly focus. so they should be able to keep in mind several things and there programming should be all around more effecient.. But that never happens and most of the billiant programmers I know are guys.. (Im not saying there are not women programmers who are good as my GF can almost put me to shame in C ( which is sad:P )) but.. This is *NOT* i repeat *NOT* a problem that colleges need to try and fix by minority admissions ( IE women being a minority ) if they do.. not much is being accomplished this late in the game it is a K-12 thing and establishing your interests so you have a damn clue before you go to college.
Slashdot Mirror
Ive already taken a few deliberate moderation hits today to be goofy but this is awesome :-) I love when /. gets people like Bjarne to do interviews. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. This is content generation at its best! :-)
I know this is a direct attack to your argument which I somewhat dislike (singling out a person).
;-) okay okay thats a little biting im just picking. How big of a deal is it. I know some people cruise FM all day but some of us COME to slash dot to hear what people got to say about software like this.
So I will make this as a suggestion.
Skip over the articles. It doesnt hurt to see GNU Libc x.y.z is out and just not read it does it? I mean if it does I will complain for you
If there was a filter for *everything* people wanted hemos and taco would spend all day coding filters! use your brain it filters excellent.. I got so good I could totally ignore my wife
Just as a side note there are a few works such as this in progress. I know of at least one company attempting to design a 3D user environment. Basically everything you do (Research papers, C Source files etc. ) all exist in a 3 Dimensional space and to go grab the paper you have to navigate to it and open it up etc. Its an interesting approach.
/. article was a sort of flat 'plane' that you just stick documents and eveyrthing was highly embedded with the desktop. You just navigate to the part of the 'plane' that has your document and you can 'open' it but everything is highly integrated look/feel. Those are some of the more interesting approaches.
Another suggested approach that has received a
Why is /. One hour ahead of US EST Time? I thought they were in michigan which is like 1hr behind my timezone which should make the posts appear at 9am, not 11am?
Come on.
:P
/.
/. for about a year and these have always been here and I like them and its just a part of /. sooo stop it :p
/. has been posting software upgrades like this for all eternity. I mean they dont report things like Frog0.0.1 First Release
I happen to enjoy reading about what others have to say on the software that is "important" to the community. glibc IS important
Ive learned a WHOLE lot by what other people have said here at
Please do not go bashing saying this belongs at FM
Been reading
I just noticed a most amazing property if /.
I am in IE 4 for anyone who wants to know what browser
Every time I refresh the main page it morphs!
The / boxes move around maybe a cm and the stories all move 1cm this way or that horitzontally.
I cannot do this on any other site!
Cool ehh!
lol a *non* flame post to one of my replies whats this world coming to :-)
:-)
I see your point and that makes more sense.
I cant see MS Office -> Star Office. MS Office is not THAT horrible. And star office is not even close to a even small leap in creativity / new productivity boosting features. If people come to it and go to MS Office its where they will stay I think. And.. its quite possible if MS DOES NOT do this something Free and something better is going to replace them anywhere! YOU better believe they will be doing Office for Linux.. Just try and beat their marketing. Thats the fun thing. Superior Product no problem. Converting people who will actually benefit from Linux? Hmmn...
lol, I never click on score:0 links.. oh well :P
sounds like a good reason why some people are scared of linux :P
NY Times has and will effeciently survive! Here is why.
Think about how many of you now have NY Times memberships?
They have established an online presence already, made a decent reputation by carrying good stories and have attracted a decent crowd of online users
If they were to ever start seriously losing paper sales to their website.. I can easily imagine the 'send us check money order or pop into our secure server and pay us 5 bucks a month for our news paper'.
It works so well ive been trying to point this out for a good while. They may lose quite a few of the free users but, they will still have a revenue stream and they will be what I would consider a media suvivalist.
I do buy the news paper locally as well.. I dont see slashdot reporting about the serial rapist and his description who is urnning around my neighborhood.
jallen@idminc.com
Abiword is the "coolest" word processor. They are releasing windows versions which I think is fabulous! You develop an awesome product and release it into windows for free. It needs more features but they come every day. Its very good for the windows release. This allows people to check it out! it exposes more people to different things. More people who are genuinely interested in learning about Linux are exposed to some of the nicer aspects of it :-) Its not for everyone yet and until someones gets a mindless point-click-drool thing going Oh well :-)
Everybody wants to be somebody. People want to be unique, maybe not to friends but somewhere as a human, (male) you want to be the best but often settle for far less. Some people have a lot more desire.
To each there own yes. Many people only want other people to realize they are individuals and that they are not like everyone else and no one else is 'just' like them
Its true EVERYONE is someone who is not like someone else who is not like me.
That said what do all of these stupid studies MEAN. Nothing they are beggining to feel like 'Benchmarks for Society'. (coin that phrase?)
Yeah I know its a bit dreamy.. people are somewhat predictable. But Everyone IS different.
I have a college text (Intro to technology) that defines hackers as an bad word. Saying they do malicious things etc. Bleh
:p'
I think its a very VERY prevalent miconception to all new computer users.
I run a mud and I get asked 'what are you doing?'
My reply is usually 'hacking leave me alone
Then they respond with 'whoa you run the mud but you are hacking your own mud...' *sighs*
Its like a lost cause outside of the community. For every person I sit down and explain it to 20 others wont ever hear the speech and will propogate to 20 of there friends what a hacker 'really' is *laugh*
:-(
scuse me?
"FRAME SRC="http://www.mccain2000.com/cgi-local/main.pl"
Thanks..
JA
McCains site had perl, know who I am voting for..
This is not a competition with MS
Ugh, Its happening :-(. I had to pay a $3,000 Dollar Fuel Consumption tax on my Saleen S351 :-(
:P
Mostly Due the fact I probably get 6-7 Mpg but how is that *my* fault?
OH well I am going to drive fast till the gas runs out
Uhm.. You have left a gaping hole in that logic there. Such as interacting with people online is *nothing* compared to interacting with a person in the flesh. Hearing, seeing, feeling his ideas. Not just 'hearing' his ideas. Gimme a break. I think the internet is a tool and a revolutionary way to exchange information.. but not intimate feelings and not good way to interact with people. You lose a little to much if you sacrifice personal interaction for internet interaction with people. And until you have experienced both sides you never know whats missing.
I strongly beleive social skills and conversation CAN be learned and you CAN become comfortable with such things.
Its just a people interaction thing, and YES I think you need a degree of human interaction in your day. Or you lose touch with some important emotions.
Can you see me crying as I write this? Can you look into my eyes and hear my tone of voice and see how difficult something is to talk about to me?
Nope. Not unless you are a very eloquent and expressive writer and even then. A simple look on my face can convey more meaning than a well written paragraph. I like my time on the net as much as anyone else because I enjoy reading but it CANNOT and WILL not replace the fact that humans need personal interaction with other humans. Sure im interacting and I am making you think but I find it truly hard to beleive that you can find total personal fulfillment over the internet.
An additional thought that *IS* a dream until one toolit becomes *THE* toolkit. Along with saving the state of the user area and all. Every application has a standard interface and you can along with the user area snag the exact state of the application and in a somehow effecient manner write these to a file and when it crashes you can just restore the wordprocessor and spreadsheet.. and or web browser to what it was right before the crash.. But thats a pipe dream :-) But with almost all our major apps still open source maybe not?
JA
Here is a thought I have seen kicked around..
This should NEVER replace good old fashioned debugging and writing clean and effecient code.
Have a daemon I imagine it can be quite lightweight. All this daemon does is monitors a few programs and in the event of a hard crash/lockup instead of the "I had to run to another machine and telnet in to Kill X" This little daemon just kicks X around for a few and restarts it.
Now the idea is *simple* enough sounding. Keep X running at any cost. How much actual interfacing with X is required I dont know?
Another question is how much would a daemon of this nature drag the system down
MY *guesses* are it would not be terribly overweight or inneffecient.
Perhaps it could also interface with GNOME and every maybe 5 seconds save the desktop and all of the applications that are open etc. And in the event of a crash it wil restore your desktop.. I dont think that is to far away
Jeremy Allen
Jallen@idminc.com
I know we bend the rules of statistics pretty heavily at my work :P we have 3 female programmers and 3 male programmers Including myself.. I think a *LOT* of it has to do with attitudes towards technology and computers. My Girlfriend had *never* even used a computer other than like once for a school project in HS. She was in her first year of college and I introduced them to her and she loves it.. She can geek out just as good as me or you or the next guy/err.. GAL. I think its just a problem of getting more women comfortable with computers and the social computers are for geeks stigma.. And I think many many more women would be into computers then.. Heh.. In theory ( JUST in theory now ) Women should make better programmers than men.. in practice I dont see this very often and I still cant figure it out. But womens brains should be able to cope with programming better since they use more of there brain at once and dont clearly focus. so they should be able to keep in mind several things and there programming should be all around more effecient.. But that never happens and most of the billiant programmers I know are guys.. (Im not saying there are not women programmers who are good as my GF can almost put me to shame in C ( which is sad :P )) but.. This is *NOT* i repeat *NOT* a problem that colleges need to try and fix by minority admissions ( IE women being a minority ) if they do.. not much is being accomplished this late in the game it is a K-12 thing and establishing your interests so you have a damn clue before you go to college.
Heh heh heh Sorry, I couldnt resist! :p and hey whats wrong with being From Georgia and talking like that? Ehh? and I *do* say ya'll so... hehe.
I see someone from your fan club has moderated you as a troll
It has very little to do with intelligence and everything to do with a personal accomplishment for ME.. Bleh I doubt im very smart at all.. :-)