I am sure that Steve Jobs lets Pixar be run. If he said 'Use Mac OS 8' from now on a long time ago, Pixar badass, The Man, the virtuoso who started it all Ed Catmull, would have said 'guess what? fuck you! that's what!'. There is no way they could have done anything on Mac OS or OS X until now. I am sure they are switching because with the closeness with Apple, Macs are the best thing to use now, and no other reason. They won't be straight Mac OS X for a while now anyway, they do have 3000 sun machines to replace, which they will as needed, not to satisfy a publicity stunt.
I would like every song to be avilable for free and easily downloadable within 3 minutes. The only difference is that my expectations are are realistic.
SGI is no longer the top dog and are fading quickly. Large studios are moving to Linux in droves for 3D, PDI has support from Red Hat and anyone else could do the same. Accountability is no longer an issue, expecially because large companie like that don't have to sit and whine when something breaks, they have programmers to fix for them. If they just wanted someone to complain to, they wouldn't have so much in house software in the first place, which is one reason they are moving to Linux. Macs, Windows, SGI and now Linux are all in the mix. It is obvious you are spouting cliches. I think Macs kick ass, but they are not the standard, there are too many players out there all doing a great job. And Macs certainly are used by a large group of artists who don't know any better (and by that I mean they don't consider other options, not that the Mac isn't the best, because for some things, it certainly is). Not that this is who they are only used by, but it is an identifyable group.
I'll give you audio, that is what I have heard (pun), but for video and graphics it is not so. Macs do take a larger percentage there than they do in the overall market, but there are other options like SGI, Linux, and Win2k for graphics work that work just as well (with Linux being more cost effective, faster and more stable on the very high end and windows being just more cost effective on the middle and low end). Macs are used by a large group of people who think 'Macs are better for artists' and don't know any better. Lots of people use Photoshop and After Effects on Macs and on Windows, but that doesn't make Mac the standard.
Some programs out there such as Softimage Have been using reatime 3D API's to draw their widgets for as long as realtime 3D API's have been around. It has been using OpenGl to draw the widgets for at least 6 years.
People who make movies are almost never loyal to a given platform (except the mac, ironically). They simply want something that works so they can meet their deadlines.
Do you have an example of Macs being used on movies by a major company? I am not doubting you, but I haven't even heard of it and am pretty curious.
Introduced the mouse to computing. Introduced the 'window, icon, mouse, pointer' pardigm. Xerox? Xerox.
Introduced the WYSIWYG concept. how exactly?
Introduced audio and video, via Quicktime, to home computers. IM motherfuckin PEG baby.
You know, things that today you take for granted, Apple helped popularize You maybe right on that one, they did help popularize things like USB, like they help popularize shitty slashdot posting by you buying a Mac
I was surprised that there was one in Kansas two. Something cool happens in Kansas and its a month after I jumped ship. Are there any digital theatres in Vancouver? Oh well, Kansas sucks in general, it was worth it.
Why are you scared of ad targeting? If you now how to manage your money it can be a very useful tool. Would you rather see ads for useless stuff or ads that are about your interests. If you are at a super market would you rather see ads for sales on tampons right when you need them or for low-rider magazine? I hate stupid repetative mindless ads on TV, but if it was for a new 180 gig hard drive or a demo of a new version of 3D animation software I would pay attention as much as I wold to a normal show.
It has to be said, after playing some intense and long games of starcraft where you feel like a god if you win and worthless if you lose, I would love to see some of the best people in the world play starcraft. Think of a match between the creators or something of the sort. It would be a huge mammoth battle full of strategies, and unlike chess it would be pretty obvious what was going on. Imagine watching two side and consider the following possibilities:
1. Both sides rush each other, one side wins, kind of boring kind of cheap.
2. Both sides rush each other, no one wins, they both struggle and fight, hopefully pull some tricks.
3. They both sit and build for a long time, one side has the advantage and you can't wait for the ass kicking to ensue, real drawn out, dragon ball Z style.
4. They both build and no one is clearly ahead. Strategy and balance come into play as well as how the attacks are drawn out, very interesting indeed.
Factor in distractions, multiple players, teams, magic, the different races, diversions, etc. and you have some cheap gripping television.
I don't know, I dont' have the answer to what happens when someone or some organization shits on you and then seems to care about you the next day. I think you are right on about Adobe, they have a monopoly not because of shitty tactics because they can't pull that kind of thing with such ingrained standards everywhere, and they haven't tried eighther. My point is that if someone wanted to boycott Adobe I think that they could easily find alternatives. Maybe not in a higher end more expensive compositor, but in some programs that they could use and not need photoshop and AE. They are the best tools for the job in a lot of situations, but if a boycott didn't take sacrifices it wouldn't really mean much. I don't think it is a good idea for someone in broadcast graphics to try to work around using photoshop and AE, just that it could be done, and a boycott of Adobe is certainly possible, even in the market they do best in.
You are also using Lightwave, so why not use Aura? Shake is really expensive (10k), not really an option, but you said that there weren't replacements for those adobe products and that isn't true. After Effects has been used for some high end commercials and a few times in movies which is absolutly insane however. It does Ok, but it is very limited and slow. Nothing Real are the makers of Shake, but a more realistic substitute would be Combustion. I actually don't know of any software that is better than photoshop and serves the same purpose, but if someone truly didn't want to use, there are other programs they could use to get the same end result.
I am surprised that Lightwave hasn't come to Linux yet. It has been my experience that Lightwave animators are the people that come to animation from the computer side of things and not the artistic side of things. Mostly though, Lightwave has been on Amiga, WinNT, MacOS, MacOS X, Sun OS, and SGI. The transition to linux I would think would be very easy since the x86 code is there and the unix style ports are there. Linux is also kind of the new SGI.
Give me one example of this happening. You can't, because it hasn't, because realistically, exposure is good, and if it ever came to the point where someone rips off your work like that you would already be fucking rich. Try looking at the real world.
Thus far, the first episode (called "Darwin's Dangerous Idea" -- at least they are honest in the title) was a melodramatization of Charles Darwin's life. Darwin is portrayed as a sympathetic character who is attacked by ignorant Christians for his "revolutionary thought"
This is just so good it has to be fattening. Attacked by Ignorant Christians you say? Here is one that will really keep you up at night, the earth is round, we are not the center of the universe, and this kind of stuff doesn't help your worthless cause of ignorance and closed mindedness. (thank God, [pun intended]).
Going to the lowest common denominator is no excuse. Making crap and shit that people will still buy doesn't make something suddenly stop being shit. Little kids liking it is no excuse.
By some rough statistics that I remember, it could render the original Toy Story completely in 30 hours easily. It might not even take that long. Rendering a whole movie in a day, Edwin Catmull would be proud.
Not only that, maybe there would be a standard GUI API. Jesus ass tities christ why hasn't that one apeared? QT GTK MFC Cocoa SWing AWT TK Winforms etc. Most high end 3D apps that have been ported to many OSes and have none naitive just write their own GUI layer. This is 2002, we have standard 3D but no 2D GUI? I think it would be different sans MS.
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I am sure that Steve Jobs lets Pixar be run. If he said 'Use Mac OS 8' from now on a long time ago, Pixar badass, The Man, the virtuoso who started it all Ed Catmull, would have said 'guess what? fuck you! that's what!'. There is no way they could have done anything on Mac OS or OS X until now. I am sure they are switching because with the closeness with Apple, Macs are the best thing to use now, and no other reason. They won't be straight Mac OS X for a while now anyway, they do have 3000 sun machines to replace, which they will as needed, not to satisfy a publicity stunt.
I would like every song to be avilable for free and easily downloadable within 3 minutes. The only difference is that my expectations are are realistic.
SGI is no longer the top dog and are fading quickly. Large studios are moving to Linux in droves for 3D, PDI has support from Red Hat and anyone else could do the same. Accountability is no longer an issue, expecially because large companie like that don't have to sit and whine when something breaks, they have programmers to fix for them. If they just wanted someone to complain to, they wouldn't have so much in house software in the first place, which is one reason they are moving to Linux. Macs, Windows, SGI and now Linux are all in the mix. It is obvious you are spouting cliches. I think Macs kick ass, but they are not the standard, there are too many players out there all doing a great job. And Macs certainly are used by a large group of artists who don't know any better (and by that I mean they don't consider other options, not that the Mac isn't the best, because for some things, it certainly is). Not that this is who they are only used by, but it is an identifyable group.
I'll give you audio, that is what I have heard (pun), but for video and graphics it is not so. Macs do take a larger percentage there than they do in the overall market, but there are other options like SGI, Linux, and Win2k for graphics work that work just as well (with Linux being more cost effective, faster and more stable on the very high end and windows being just more cost effective on the middle and low end). Macs are used by a large group of people who think 'Macs are better for artists' and don't know any better. Lots of people use Photoshop and After Effects on Macs and on Windows, but that doesn't make Mac the standard.
Shut yo mouth bitch, Jesus you have high Slash ID. Whatup from Vancouver.
Some programs out there such as Softimage Have been using reatime 3D API's to draw their widgets for as long as realtime 3D API's have been around. It has been using OpenGl to draw the widgets for at least 6 years.
Well played
If I had a mod point I would mod you up :) I think that MS knows that if they did a FreeBSD port, people would find a way to make it work on Linux.
People who make movies are almost never loyal to a given platform (except the mac, ironically). They simply want something that works so they can meet their deadlines.
Do you have an example of Macs being used on movies by a major company? I am not doubting you, but I haven't even heard of it and am pretty curious.
nice troll. for those that don't realize why:
Introduced the mouse to computing.
Introduced the 'window, icon, mouse, pointer' pardigm.
Xerox? Xerox.
Introduced the WYSIWYG concept.
how exactly?
Introduced audio and video, via Quicktime, to home computers.
IM motherfuckin PEG baby.
You know, things that today you take for granted, Apple helped popularize You maybe right on that one, they did help popularize things like USB, like they help popularize shitty slashdot posting by you buying a Mac
I was surprised that there was one in Kansas two. Something cool happens in Kansas and its a month after I jumped ship. Are there any digital theatres in Vancouver? Oh well, Kansas sucks in general, it was worth it.
Why are you scared of ad targeting? If you now how to manage your money it can be a very useful tool. Would you rather see ads for useless stuff or ads that are about your interests. If you are at a super market would you rather see ads for sales on tampons right when you need them or for low-rider magazine? I hate stupid repetative mindless ads on TV, but if it was for a new 180 gig hard drive or a demo of a new version of 3D animation software I would pay attention as much as I wold to a normal show.
I can see my credit card bills stating I owe them one finger each. Ouch.
I think everyone would give them the same finger.
That is going to be shown off soon, not to mention zelda, metroid, mariou kart, all taken to the next level. Sweet ass stuff if you ask me.
It has to be said, after playing some intense and long games of starcraft where you feel like a god if you win and worthless if you lose, I would love to see some of the best people in the world play starcraft. Think of a match between the creators or something of the sort. It would be a huge mammoth battle full of strategies, and unlike chess it would be pretty obvious what was going on. Imagine watching two side and consider the following possibilities:
1. Both sides rush each other, one side wins, kind of boring kind of cheap.
2. Both sides rush each other, no one wins, they both struggle and fight, hopefully pull some tricks.
3. They both sit and build for a long time, one side has the advantage and you can't wait for the ass kicking to ensue, real drawn out, dragon ball Z style.
4. They both build and no one is clearly ahead. Strategy and balance come into play as well as how the attacks are drawn out, very interesting indeed.
Factor in distractions, multiple players, teams, magic, the different races, diversions, etc. and you have some cheap gripping television.
I don't know, I dont' have the answer to what happens when someone or some organization shits on you and then seems to care about you the next day. I think you are right on about Adobe, they have a monopoly not because of shitty tactics because they can't pull that kind of thing with such ingrained standards everywhere, and they haven't tried eighther. My point is that if someone wanted to boycott Adobe I think that they could easily find alternatives. Maybe not in a higher end more expensive compositor, but in some programs that they could use and not need photoshop and AE. They are the best tools for the job in a lot of situations, but if a boycott didn't take sacrifices it wouldn't really mean much. I don't think it is a good idea for someone in broadcast graphics to try to work around using photoshop and AE, just that it could be done, and a boycott of Adobe is certainly possible, even in the market they do best in.
You are also using Lightwave, so why not use Aura? Shake is really expensive (10k), not really an option, but you said that there weren't replacements for those adobe products and that isn't true. After Effects has been used for some high end commercials and a few times in movies which is absolutly insane however. It does Ok, but it is very limited and slow. Nothing Real are the makers of Shake, but a more realistic substitute would be Combustion. I actually don't know of any software that is better than photoshop and serves the same purpose, but if someone truly didn't want to use, there are other programs they could use to get the same end result.
Replace Photoshop with Painter (maybe). Replace After Effects with a real compositing program like Shake (runs on Linux, booyah! thanks Dreamworks).
They were saying that for Dreamworks' up and coming movie, it will be completly created with Linux now that they have transitioned completely.
I am surprised that Lightwave hasn't come to Linux yet. It has been my experience that Lightwave animators are the people that come to animation from the computer side of things and not the artistic side of things. Mostly though, Lightwave has been on Amiga, WinNT, MacOS, MacOS X, Sun OS, and SGI. The transition to linux I would think would be very easy since the x86 code is there and the unix style ports are there. Linux is also kind of the new SGI.
Give me one example of this happening. You can't, because it hasn't, because realistically, exposure is good, and if it ever came to the point where someone rips off your work like that you would already be fucking rich. Try looking at the real world.
Thus far, the first episode (called "Darwin's Dangerous Idea" -- at least they are honest in the title) was a melodramatization of Charles Darwin's life. Darwin is portrayed as a sympathetic character who is attacked by ignorant Christians for his "revolutionary thought"
This is just so good it has to be fattening. Attacked by Ignorant Christians you say? Here is one that will really keep you up at night, the earth is round, we are not the center of the universe, and this kind of stuff doesn't help your worthless cause of ignorance and closed mindedness. (thank God, [pun intended]).
Going to the lowest common denominator is no excuse. Making crap and shit that people will still buy doesn't make something suddenly stop being shit. Little kids liking it is no excuse.
By some rough statistics that I remember, it could render the original Toy Story completely in 30 hours easily. It might not even take that long. Rendering a whole movie in a day, Edwin Catmull would be proud.
Not only that, maybe there would be a standard GUI API. Jesus ass tities christ why hasn't that one apeared? QT GTK MFC Cocoa SWing AWT TK Winforms etc. Most high end 3D apps that have been ported to many OSes and have none naitive just write their own GUI layer. This is 2002, we have standard 3D but no 2D GUI? I think it would be different sans MS.