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Star Wars Phantom Menace 1.1 Editor Speaks
guinnessy writes "Studio 360 interviews the person who carried out Phantom Edit 1.1. You can listen to the interview here if you have Real Audio. It's quite interesting and explains why he hated Jar Jar Binks so much and what he did."
to explain why someone would hate Jar Jar so much? I figured most people over ~12 would understand his feelings completely.
I refuse to install Spyware^WRealPlayer on my system. Is there a transcript available anywhere?
Yeah I could if i Had real audio. Anyone will to write down the conversation and post it some were so those of us who don't have real audio can read it?
It's quite interesting and explains why he hated Jar Jar Binks so much
Does that really need explaining?
Ooh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a real useful invention.
Yes, it's being renamed "Attack of the Trolls." Look for it to feature many Slashdot regulars as extras.
Slashdotted already,
who's idea was it to post large media files on
than episode 1?
Not Jar Jar again, but Jon Katz.
The Phantom Editor's Website!
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I believe that I speak for all Star Wars fans... or make that even all humans... when I state that Jar Jar Binks must be destroyed.
Alright, perhaps that was a tad harsh. But what is the value to the character -- he is racially offensive, disrupts all possible dark and intelligent tones to the movie and, lest I forget to mention, quite possibly the most annoying character not portrayed by Pauly Shore or Carrot Top ever witnessed in a movie.
Now, this is just my personal opinion. But Mr. Lucas, with all due respect, what on earth were you smoking?
And one more thing! Didn't they learn their lesson from the Ewoks? Jar Jar = the Ewoks to the nth degree.
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What the hell is "the Phantom Edit 1.1"?
Anyone know where the offical Phantom Edited movie is?
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which highlights JarJar's zany antics and removes the parts that advance the story. I call it the JarJar Yes-Pleasy-Yessir Phantom Meesa-Likie-Likie Edit.
Probably because you can start listening nearly instantly, vs. waiting for the whole file to download first.
Also, Real has some nice streaming features. They can dynamically change the bitrate of the audio depending on your ability to download it.
I have no doubt that MP3 or OGG could be used to do the same thing, but consider that Real is a big player in this space.
"Derp de derp."
A new Phantom Edit has just been released this month. True it's not by the same guy that did the original (LA) version, but then again the 2nd (NY) version was done by 2 unrelated people in NY, so I guess it makes sense for the 3rd (DC) version to be made by yet an other unrelated person.
You can find info about it at the phantom edit forum. Also you can download a 2cd VCD of the new version (thanks to Bit Torrent!) from me here.
Close your web browser, shut down your fucking linux "b0xen" and go outside for once in your life.
Why not take your own advice, Mr. Slashdot Troll?
boycott: to engage in a concerted refusal to have dealings with (as a person, store, or organization) usually to express disapproval or to force acceptance of certain conditions Read this, realize your an idiot, go away.
realaudio is nothing more than a netversion (low bandw) of the ac3 codec, its all in the official
ac3 specs.
Thus, it should decompress using ac3 code, (unless real wrapped it in another file format)
I'm sorry, I just don't see how what I said was flame bait. Somebody asked why they were using Real Audio instead of MP3, and my answer was the streaming capabilities of Real. If it sounded like I was saying Real was better than MP3 or OGG, then I apologize for not being clearer in what I was saying.
Let me clarify my point: Real is a dedicated server/streaming solution. It's made by a company that is dedicated to providing that support. Ogg or MP3 is probably superior, but when you make a business decision, the company you're getting it from is a big consideration.
"Derp de derp."
Sorry, but I think you've been had there.
i ke-the-most?" film series. It's a pretty faithful (so far) movie adaptation of what's commonly regarded as the best book of the twentieth century.
The "Lord Of The Rings" movie trilogy isn't your average Hollywood "gee-what-kind-of-ending-did-the-test-audiences-l
The second book in the trilogy is called "The Two Towers". And the title isn't a prescient, Nostrodamus-like reference to the September 11th attack on the World Trade Center but (shock, horror) a reference to two, uh, towers, that appear in that book as Frodo and Sam continue on to Mordor and the rest of the fellowship take part in an assault on Isengard.
Now, unless I'm truly living in an Orwellian society (which, ironically, is how I perceive the revisionism that Hollywood seems to be obsessed with whenever it turns its hand to historically-based entertainment), those are the historical facts. (Unless, of course, the Ministry Of Truth truly has tracked down every copy of LOTR, had them destroyed and replaced with "corrected" copies that aren't as offensive to The Party. Who knows, this could have happened. It might explain why my copy of LOTR has gone AWOL.)
I can't vouch for him personally, but Peter Jackson strikes me as a man of integrity. In every interview I've read or seen his love of the original text and his desire to bring it to life as faithfully as possible is clear. And I very much doubt that he's going to presume to meddle with Tolkien's masterpiece by changing the title of the second film.
The irony that he'd even be asked to do so is dripping - is there any way the world of Tolkien could possibly be further away from the world of September 11th?
The Hollywood suits asking for a name change are probably the same ones that were so vocal in the aftermath of last year's tragedy, spouting (script-written?) lines about how they couldn't produce another violent movie after what had happened yet barely waiting more than a heartbeat before rubber stamping the release of movies like Black Hawk Down and Collateral Damage.
All this while the Israeli army, funded by the US tax payer ($4 billion of US military aid per year, total military expenditure $7 billion per year), murders people in their homes with US-built, US-supplied hardware while the Bush administration vetoes any attempt by the United Nations' Security Council to condemn Israel's actions.
(When Israel kills, the world complains but the US pretends that nothing's happened. Ditto when the US military kills allied personnel in "friendly fire" incidents.)
Change the title of "The Two Towers"? How about changing the damn record instead?
(Go ahead, mod this down. Like I give a damn about karma.)
"Accept that some days you are the pigeon, and some days you are the statue." - David Brent, Wernham Hogg
Me tinks (sorry) that the Ewaks where pretty cool but thats as far as my love for stupid starwarsy animals go. I think Jar Jar should be ground into pod racer fuel in the next episode.... either that or he should be made a Jedi, that'll annoy them! :)
there are laws in place to prevent this sort of thing... at least I think there are and if the current laws aren't up to the challange there are people working overtime to draft new ones. Actually I like the idea of being able to do this, at least for your own purposes as well as the ability to post a patch so you can attach these changes to your own legally bought copy of "The Phantom Menace" without anyone having to shell out extra money to Lucas. That way Lucas still sells 'The Phantom Menace' and new things can be done with the material.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't HTTP streaming mean that if you fall under the required bitrate that you'll get broken up music?
If so, does M3u have server support for changing bitrates during a change in net conditions?
"Derp de derp."
Actually, the moderation system exists not to give or take karma from people, but to promote good comments to better public view while removing the noise and such from more prominent positions. Moderation is only incidentally related to karma. The point is to choose make it easier to read the better posts.
However, you are correct that changing the name of The Two Towers would be about as absurd as you can get.
How is all this related to Jar Jar? Good question. Maybe we could say that changing the name of The Two Towers is about on the level of making Jar Jar a main character?
They laughed at Einstein. They laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. -- C. Sagan
Or perhaps we should chew your food for you and wipe your ass too?
Don't bother to respond; someone as clueless or self-indulgent as you is very unlikely to have anything useful or interesting to contribute here.
This is not a troll, it is a perfectly reasonable response to a perfectly useless posting. "dangermouse" could have invested the ame effort into getting an answer as they did whining about not knowing and for somebody to puhlease spoonfeed them.
I don't read ACs: If a post isn't worth so much as a nom de plume to its author then I wont bother either.
The trade federation is, I think, meant to be Chinese, not Japanese (I'm part-Japanese myself). As well, Anakin's flitting slave-owner is supposed to be vaguely eastern European / Jewish, near as I can tell (accented, haggles over money, big nose -- I mean, Jesus Christ!).
To be honest, it annoyed me first time I saw the film, and it only got worse with repeat viewings. If Lucas meant to make the film to satisfy himself only, as has been claimed by others at Slashdot (sorry, can't be arsed to find the reference), you have to wonder just what the fuck he was thinking when he wrote the screenplay.
To address your last comment, though, Tolkien wrote LOTR many years ago. Lucas doesn't really have that excuse, and in my view, doesn't deserve an out. Just my opinion.
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Death will come, and will have your eyes
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It is interesting this is posted about 2 weeks before the next Star Wars movie. I guess it is to remind us about it. Most people - scf-fi fans and otherwise - are looking forward to the Spiderman movie (recent trailer had him swooping just over a bunch of yellow cabs in NY; very good.) Besides Spiderman, most people interested in ci-Fi are waiting for the second Lord of The Rings movie. I grew up with Star Wars (was 12 when the first movie came out.) but I don't see the interest anymore. I think more people are waiting for the next X-Men movie than a SW movie in which we know that Anakin gets involved with Queen whats-her-name and starts becoming Darth Vader. Lucus probably went with his alledged last 3 movies of the series set 100-200 years after ROTJ. Right now, he has no room to move.
The most interesting part of that pathetic interview was the discussion afterwards, without the phantom editor, about Memento. That the England dvd release will have an easter egg that you can watch it in chronological order.
"he wants the kids involved so they stick through all 3 new movies and hopefully watch the other 3."
Don't forget that Star Wars movies = release of some really cool toys. Go to your local Toys R Us and see what companies such as LEgo are doing with Star Wars. It's pretty impressive.
I have no doubt that Lucas had kids in mind when he made Jar Jar. He even said so in this month's Issue of Maxim.
Is this a bad thing? I agree that Star Wars would be more interesting if it were geared more towards the adult world, but the kids spend more money on it after the fact. The truth is that we can fully expect more kiddie stuff as Star Wars trickles out. Look at the preview for AotC. Anybody catch the flying R2D2 scene?
There is some hope, though. Older people are buying more video games these days. It's possible we'll see Star Wars tuned more to the adult audience in the next couple of movies, because now the older people have a reason to buy Star Wars merchandise.
At least that's what I'm hoping for. I'm not holding my breath, though. When I see AotC, I fully expect to see some silly moments that'll make the kids cheer. The best I can do is try to enjoy it. I know I thought the Ewoks were cool when I was 6.
"Derp de derp."
I think Jar Jar should be ground into pod racer fuel in the next episode
Haven't you heard?
Jar-Jar becomes Boba Fett in Ep2
Oh my god, that was the biggest waste of 10 minutes *ever*.
What would possess someone to write something like this?!??!
Roger That!
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The "Lord Of The Rings [imdb.com]" movie trilogy isn't your average Hollywood "gee-what-kind-of-ending-did-the-test-audiences-li ke-the-most?" film series. It's a pretty faithful (so far) movie adaptation of what's commonly regarded [guardian.co.uk] as the best book of the twentieth century.
I'll have to dispute with you on that one. LOTR was a damn good book. Undoubtedly the best book of the Fantasy genre ever. However, there are books such as Ulysess, 1984, The Grapes of Wrath, The Old Man and the Sea, and of course Brave New World that I think edge out ahead of LOTR.
I think the poll in your article is skewed to favor LOTR because it is just a poll of regular people. Many of whom have heard about or seen LOTR at a theater near them. Many of these people have not heard of books like The Old Man and the Sea, or Ulysses.
Basically stated, what I'm trying to say is the recent publicity of LOTR has skewed the poll in the article you linked to. Most critics consider Ulysses to be the best book of the century, with Brave New World in second.
...I think I'll wait for Version 2. I've had troubles with V1.0 stuff
...hmmm. maybe version 3? I'll see, maybe it will be supported by someone by then.
Except for the fact that the #2 bad guy in the books and the one of the biggest turncoats in Middle Earth history is a wizard named Saruman the *WHITE*....
While Gandalf was known throughout most of his like as Gandalf the *GRAY*.
If you look closer at the poll you will notice that it is dated in 1997. Well before the move was anything more a rumor.
I realized the Phantom Menace was a piece of crap before someone pointed out Lucas' racist undertones. The white guys are beautiful and heroic. The slavetraders talk like aye-rabs. The evil trade federation talk like asians. The comic relief is provided by a neeeeeeeeeeeeegro. And beautiful Princess Amadalia Panda is Israli Army Pin-up Girl Natalie Portman. But Lucas pretends in the TIME interview he's exploring the line between dictatorship and democracy? Right, georgy porgey puddingly pie, 8 million pepsi cips didn't sell and he couldn't work out why.
Well, there may indeed be better books. However, I don't think it's fair to say that the poll was skewed because of the movie, if you will notice that the article in question is dated Monday January 20, 1997. This is, of course, over five years ago, when Peter Jackson's film version was merely a rumor, and had not touched the conciousness of the common film goer.
Fact is, the common reader, such as myself, probably has different reasons for liking a book than does a literary critic, or other professional of that sort.
A pilot, in those days, was the only unfettered and entirely independent human being that lived in the earth.-Mark Twain
How about:-
1) cutting Tom Bombadil & the Barrow Wights
2) Aragorn "Just happening to find" 3 Hobbit sized swords to get past 1) on Weathertop
3) The "Cave Troll" in Moria - we've got a CGI budget & we're going to use it - or a blatent steal of "Harry Potter" either way superfluous & over-long.
4) The ending, Tolkien wrote a fine ending which they in their "infinite" wisdom decided to re-write so every one of the Fellowship could say goodbye to Frodo before he left - the new ending was lame, killed the meaning of the film and was actually longer than the original - please explain.
I walked out of the movie fuming. I could have accepted cuts because there's a lot going on in the book but not swingeing cuts so the director could masturbate with CGI & rewrite Tolkiens ending.
So... a spyware free version of kazaa...
interview with the phantom editor...
All in the same day?!
muahahahah!
careful careful what you say the FBI may be your best friend
This is wonderful. I did not know that there was a Phantom Menace 1.1. I'm glad there is.
I would like to think that legal barriers will not crop up to prevent more of this in the future.
umm, yeah, by 5,000 people.
sic transit gloria mundi
My nephews (ages 10 and 12 at the time of Episode I release) loved Jar Jar Binks. I know the character made the movie unpalatable for many adults, but for what it's worth, lots of kids were happy with it.
Personally, I really don't feel one way or the other about Jar Jar.
Read my sig if you like, but I'll never see yours, thanks to Discussions, Viewing, Disable sigs...
Could Episode 3 make Jar Jar essential and unforgetable?
what will the phantom editor do then.
none
And continuing the saga... JarJar will be ported to middle earth to play saruman... And they'll have banthas to play the treants...
Just to clarify: I don't think the voice of Foghorn Leghorn was intended to parody a particular living or dead politician.
From some random website I found through Google
Foghorn Leghorn - Large, white windbag of a rooster seen in a number of Warner Brother cartoons over the years. Foghorn Leghorn (inspired by Kenny Delmar's Senator Beauregard Claghorn from Bighorn character, a Deep South politician from THE FRED ALLEN SHOW on radio) premiered in the Warner's animated feature Walky Talky Hawky (1946). His popular catchphrases are "I say, I say there!", "Pay attention, boy!" and "Now listen here!" In his book That's Not all Folks (Warner Books, 1988) Mel Blanc, the voice of this boisterous loudmouth southern rooster, relayed a confusion that arose about the initial inspiration for the voice of Foghorn Leghorn. "Delmar claimed he based the voice not on my (Mel Blanc) character's, but on that of a Texas rancher he'd once hitched a ride from. Bob McKimson claimed Foghorn's voice was derived not from Senator Claghorn's but from someone on another old-time radio program, BLUE MONDAY JAMBOREE. And I claim I first heard the accent at a 1928 vaudeville show at San Francisco's Pantages Theater when I was twenty. As I recall it, in one of the skits an actor played a clownish hard-of-hearing southern sheriff."
That is, Foghorn Leghorn's voice was based on some vaudeville act, and his name seems to have been derived from a *fictional* senator, the character of which appeared on the Fred Allen Show, whose accent may have been similar.
At last someone did something. All those ooppss... gilging..yahooing...tripping over own legs...stealing apples, useles brrrring, droid pumping trough engine,and other crup together with Jar Jar Binks was pothetic. Remeber episode 4. Thats the only episode Lucas directed and original movie was great. Now mr Lucas relised new edition. Guess what he added. oppses..gigles.. biker pumps in some monste, someone steps in shit. Moronic small things that are distroing a good movie. Star War always was a serious movie. Lucas transformed into kiddy pop culture. Glad someone did something.
It's not the best book. Get over it.
The reason it won the poll is because it's probably the best book that your average young male will ever read. Which isn't saying a whole hell of a lot.
While I have to give Tolkein his props, fantasy, as a genre, is shit. The Lord of the Rings is the only one worth reading. Everything else is a poor imitation.
The whole idea of making Anakin "badass" defeats the purpose of the story. It is often times that the highly intelligent, sensitive, and loving (parting with his mother, etc) succumb to the weaknesses of evil, usual provoked by a sense of fear, then arrogance, anger, and hatred (and, if you remember Yoda, the last in the list is suffering - possibly driven by an internal conflict). It is seldom that a young bully becomes anything more than a sloppy reject in the end, not to mention that it defeats the purpose of character development. His ultimate reign of terror (possibly something we'll see in EP3, and something that most certainly occurs between EP3 and ANH) imposed by Anakin's is his shield of defence from imagined fear. Badass == lame.
Yea, I do not see any correllation between the US destroying the taliban, who flew planes into our buildings, to israelis killing palestinians, i mean palestinians only kill people every day in suicide bombings, but i agree there not americans so when they retaliate with their resources its murder, because god forbid you try to stop terrorism at its source.
Remember, if you only terror bombing 10-15 women and children at a time, for years, its better than doing it in one lump sum against a couple buildings.
If you don't vote, you don't matter, so don't waste your time telling me your opinion
I'm an Eastern European Jew and I have a number of mixed Asian (Korean, Japanese, Chinese, and Cambodian) friends, and none of us percieved or interpreted any of the characters as racist statements made by Lucas. In fact, it didn't even occur to us until we read a post much like this one on some stupid message board a year ago.
:/. And yes, Ahmed Best is African American (he consented, didn't he? What about Samuel Jackson?). This racist garbage must be a result of political correctness where being human raises eyebrows.
Racist? Give me a break.
PS: strange how Watto is a racist statement against Jews and Natalie Portman is a glorification of them.
As far as your giving Lucas the benefit of the doubt is concerned, you're a better person than me. Nonetheless, I do think he was being unconsciously conservative to the point of racism (and I should mention that most of this derives from David Brin's comments on Star Wars):
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Death will come, and will have your eyes
-- Pavese
> However, you are correct that changing the name of The Two Towers would be about as absurd as you can get. How is all this related to Jar Jar?
Obviously, you haven't seen the anatomically correct Jar-Jar action figure.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
If only I could mod you up..
and favor Java because they do not understand how to use C++ correctly.
s/correctly/at all/g
Obviously an American post...
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Remember not to let the media skew your thoughts, and possibly do a little background reading on a subject before you make comments on it.
The Palestinians are fighting against occupation by their Israeli counterparts. This ofcourse does not excuse the murder of civilians. But neither does a "fight against terrorism". Over 170 Palestinian children have died (out of 1400 palesitinians) since the infidia started, whilst just over 450 Israelis have died IN TOTAL. The figures speak for themselves.
"because god forbid you try to stop terrorism at its source."
If you want to attack terrorism at its source, attack the reason for terrorism. These are people who have seen their homes bulldozed down by the Israeli government so that Israeli settlers can occupy the land. These are people who have seen their economy and their way of life crushed by Israeli sanctions and restrictions of movement. Suicide bombers are just that because they have nothing to lose. They feel that their life is meaningless, and the only way they can give it meaning is to take out as many of "the enemy" as they can - even if it means dying. Why not give them something to lose?
In this case, remove the occupation, and give the Palestinian people some freedom and dignity.
Well, those are just my thoughts on the subject.
This is a "little" off topic, don't see how it relates to StarWars, but
-pat
I don't know if this is supposed to be a troll or not, but both Mp3 and OGG support those features.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
Sorry for everyone's mispelled names...
Kurt: This is Studio 360, at my desk is the film editor Doby Dorn and we're talking about all kinds of editing. Millions of "Star Wars" fans were lukewarm about the 1999 prequel "The Phantom Menace". But one disappointed fan actually did something about it. He calls himself the Phantom Editor. And with his personal computer he entirely recut the movie on video and started giving it away. This new phantom edit has become a global phenomenon thanks to the Internet and we invited him to speak publicly for the first time about why he did what he did.
[Starwars soundtrack]
PhantomEditor: The very first day that Phantom Menance premiered that...that afternoon I was thinking "Boy this movie needs a re-edit." I don't know, that afternoon I went up there sat next to a few people who had saw it when they were kidding about bringing their little kid in to see it. I thought "Wow this is really cool." And then the movie started and that sorta went right out the window.
[Jar-Jar-Binks]
PhantomEditor: On the screen there was so much extra material on there that I thought if they could remove some of this extra stuff THAT would actually make a better film. It's not that George Lucas didn't have the technology to do what he wanted to do, it's that he did. And somehow the movie became more about the technology then the storytelling aspect of it. The things that I...I was concerned with... uh... in my edit were the story redundancy, the over-abundance of Jar-Jar antics that didn't seem to carry the story forward, and the presentation of Jake Lloyd as Anakin Skywalker.
[Anikin: "You mean I get to come with you in your staaarshiiip?"]
PhantomEditor: He ends up being the evil character Darth Vader in the other "Star Wars" movies and the actions don't really seem reflective of that character. The blowing up of the droid control ship within the "Phantom Menace" was actually done as a... you know... an accident, where he hit the button and physically he says the word "Oops" at the end of it during the explosion.
[Anikin: "oops"]
PhantomEditor: Instead of letting him be heroic he ends up being a fumbling goof. All the happy accidents are now diminished.
PhantomEditor: Uh... throughout the whole movie from that battle sequence on Anikan's actions are now motivated by his heroic character. There are no oops's, there are none of the yippee's either...
[Anikan: "yippppeee!"]
PhantomEditor: There's an excessive amount of Jar-Jar antics, and what I mean by that, is the little examples which are almost a showpiece for the ILM special effects... where it takes you out of the story lets him participate in some little antic, and then you have to fight to get back into the story again. By removing alot of those things, I am not taking away from the story, I'm actually helping it by keeping people involved.
[Jar-Jar]
PhantomEditor: Initially when I did this it was for the audience of me and it really started out pretty harmless. The offering of a few copies to friends, who of course had friends who worked somewhere else who wanted to see it, and it began to get talked about. I mean, there was a point where I was getting over 200 emails a day. The first time I got one from New Zealand, that's what really scared the hell out of me, because I'm like "How did you see this?"
[Music swell]
PhantomEditor: First I remained anonymous because I guess that's originally what I wanted to do. You know, it was really a joke between friends, and I'm sure alot of those people knew who I was anyway. But when it got really huge like that it became really overwhelming for somebody like me who had edited this on a low end computer sitting on a $40 computer stand in my apartment. And then I didn't know the legal terms of it. All I knew is that I felt really safe because I wasn't making any profit off of that, but it was becoming aware to me that other people out there were.
[Deathstar music]
PhantomEditor: Initially George Lucas had said in public at the MTV awards that he did want to see it. But then later they put out a press statement that he would not ever watch it. Actually, I do think he should watch it. I just think that those people are making movies with their wallets. And might need a little kick in the butt from somebody like me who is completely at the other end of the scale which is similar to the message which is in the "Star Wars" films, that the underdog, the Luke Skywalker character overpowers the Empire.
[Music swell]
Kurt: Mike J. Nickels is the phantom editor and our story was produced by Michael May. Dody, you know the phantom editor I understand?
Dody: Yeah I've met him a couple times, and I have a copy of the "Phantom Edit". Is that what it's called?
Kurt: That's what it's called yeah.
Dody: [Laugh] and uhh, but I've never watched it.
Kurt: What do you think of... of what he's done? I mean the idea of... of a mere civilian taking a piece of, you know, zillion dollar entertainment and... and by his lights improving it?
Dody: Well, uhm, I think if it's an irrepressable urge.. uh.. uh.. there's no reason why somebody should stop doing something that's an irrepressable urge. I mean why? Why should he, I mean, he's not try to, as he said, not try to make any profit from it. Uh... I understand the irritation of the person who did make it. I... I understand it. But I don't have an answer for that. I don't really have an answer for whether he... I mean, what are the options? Could they come and put him in jail for having done that? I mean, there are over... over time there are examples of.. of other films... I think it's "Once Upon a Time in America" that had the European version where the time structure was all over the place, and then they made an American version that was... much uhm.. I mean obviously these were the people who owned the film, but I doubt seriously if it was the film-maker who wanted it to completely rearrange the time and made it much shorter. And people were critical of it. So I think when something like that is done that it opens... that its a forum for discussion.
Kurt: I understand that "Momento" in a European DVD form was in risk, or is going to be reorganized entirely, is that true?
Dody: Not exactly, uhm... the... I think it's the DVD release in England has an easter egg on it where you can play the film in forward chronology and Chris and I actually have never put the film in forward chronology. So while we were working on "Insomnia" we rented [laugh] the film, and digitized it, and put it in forward chronology. And we were so shocked by the change in how you experience the film; it was a completely different film. Uhm.. the character of.. of Lenard Shelby was now a really bad guy and in the structure that is Chris's design, he is someone who is avenging his wife's horrible murder. So he is a sympathetic character all the way through. And part of the purpose of that in telling the story that Chris wanted to tell is that it is an anti-revenge revenge tale. Because you spend the whole film thinking this is a good guy that we have empathy with who is going to avenge his wife's murder and at the end, or the middle of the story you realize, oh, maybe he is just a psycho.
Dody: And then it makes you question, I'd like to think it makes you question, the whole idea of revenge. Ah... because it's suddenly your perspective has shifted.
Kurt: And when you re-edited it as technology allows us to do and put it in the normal straight forward fasion, it's like you turn a beautiful, amazing, oragami construction into a... just a piece of paper.
Dody: Right, exactly, and it felt suddenly just like a... uh... uh... low rent, you know, film noir.
Kurt: Dody Dorn, thank you very much for joining me today in Studio 360.
Dody: Been alot of fun.
Kurt: Starting next month, you can see Dody Dorn's work in the new movie by Christopher Noland "Insomnia". It stars, Al Pacino, Hillary Swank, and Robert Williams. For more information about Dody Dorn, or about anything else you've heard on our program, visit our website, studio360.org.
Kurt: Studio 360 is produced by WNYC along with PRI, public radio international. The production team includes, Julie Berstein, Cary Hillman, Peter Clowny, Jocelyn Gonzolas, Steve Nelson, Michelle Speagle, Lisal Muhas, Andy Lancet, Lou Alcasky, Micheal Rayfield. The music is by David Vantiegams. I'm Kurt Anderson, and I do hope you'll join us next week in Studio 360.
Announcer: Studio 360 is co-produced by WNYC radio and public radio international, and is supported by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, The National Endowment for the Arts, the Tiffany and Company Foundation, and the Horith W. Goldsmith Foundation.
[PRI sound]
It appears Ockham lost his razor and grew a beard.
If only the terrorists had called it 'opperation jar jar' or something, to make jar jar 'emotionaly resonate' or whatever.
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Badass == lame.
Great. You stick with Lucas and his elfin little heroes. The rest of us will be watching The Phantom Edit, drinking beers, fucking chicks, smashing cars and otherwise having a good time.
Your right, we should get rid of the reason of terrorism, i think we should get rid of america too, since the reason for terrorism is that america is around and spreading its influence, you are absoluetly correct, we should get rid of america, along with israel. I mean the israelis at the time of the exodus had so MANY places to go, i mean germany and russia have always been in complete love of the jewish people, hot damn, the pogroms and the ever so exciting "holocost" showed the complete love for them. I mean, jewish people are obviously lesser people, i mean americans killed off the native peoples of there land even while posing as peace makers, and because we are americans we are better and we can get away with anything. I mean its not like the jewish people had anything to do with the history of israel before 1947, the bible being a complete hoax. The fact that there were palestinian jewish people that lived in israel the entire time also means little, and that these palestinan jews had been there since at "least" 1923 (and been emmigrating to palestinian british territory since 1880) means nothing, because even though there parents, and grandparents had lived in the palestinian district means nothing, the israelis are jewish and thus non-beings. im glad there is someone here with the forsite to realize that living in one place for a long time means you have no claim to it, and that calling yourself a nation of people is illegal because someone else also does. I also think its great that killing people a few at a time is also acceptable, and that retribution killing for such things is also bad as well. I HOPE that americans can live in fear every day from retaliation because they are still around and not destroyed, which is the only way to stop terrorism by al queda. thanks i hve been enlightened.
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No, it's being renamed The Twin Towers. Or better yet, The World Trade Center, New York City. Or how about, Attack of the Terrorist Drones. Maybe The Phantom Arab Menace? A New Hope for the Al-Quaeda Network? The 'Evil Empire' Strikes Back? Return of the Mujadeen?
2001: An Urban Crisis Oddysey? Osama of Arabia? The Wizard of Afghanistan? The Day the Earth Watched TV? Birth of a Palestinian Nation? Casabinladen?
All of these would be much less likely to remind people of the terrible events of September 11, and might even promote positive connotations of other successful films. A double-win for studio execs, right here free of charge on Slashdot.
I just watched 1.1. I think we should all send 10$ each to that guy so he can get himself dual 1Gig G4 Mac and redo it at maximum quality. (You can notice slowdowns when high action frames were rendered)Thats the way SW 1 should be in the first place. I was amaized how much you can change a movie just doing a cuts and taking out some of the voices. Still he missed one yahooooo....:))) (in racing scene when JarJar screms "here hi comes....yahoooo"). JarJar is now really serios. and Anaken is more serious. Movie looks much mode dynamic like old SW were. Amaizing job.!
Yea, I do not see any correllation between the US destroying the taliban, who flew planes into our buildings, to israelis killing palestinians, i mean palestinians only kill people every day in suicide bombings, but i agree there not americans so when they retaliate with their resources its murder, because god forbid you try to stop terrorism at its source.
Remember, if you only terror bombing 10-15 women and children at a time, for years, its better than doing it in one lump sum against a couple buildings.
Two points for you:
1. Welcome to the party. Pity you couldn't be bothered to show up until now.
Funny, isnt it, that when the IRA were killing innocents week in and week out in Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the US did nothing to stop the flow of cash from its citizens to that organisation.
When the British government asked George Bush Sr.'s help in staunching the flow of funds to the terrorists (money that was used to buy guns, mortars and explosives to kill soldiers, policemen, politicians and civilians), they were told to take a hike. Bush Sr. and his government refused to help, arguing that denying Americans the right to fund terrorists (even terrorists targeting the citizens of America's most reliable ally) was a violation of their "free speech".
Yep, back then, helping to blow up the guys who were standing shoulder to shoulder with Americans in the Gulf War (and in WW1, WW2, Korea, throughout the Cold War, etc) was a right actively protected by Uncle Sam.
Funny how one day changed all that isn't it? It was alright when it was the IRA blowing up Britons, ETA blowing up Spaniards, the Red Army Faction blowing up Germans, etc, but now someone's doing it to Americans, all of a sudden, terrorism matters. Sheesh.
2. Don't believe what you see on TV.
I suggest you look beyond CNN for a change, read a newspaper other than USA Today and get a wider perspective of world affairs.
If you truly believe that there is no link whatsoever between Israel's actions in the occupied territories and terrorist attacks on the US then you're either as stupid as George W. Bush or smoking too much dope.
An in-depth analysis of Arab-Israeli affairs and the US's role in it would take longer than I have but here is a simple step by step link between what's been happening in the Middle East for the last half a century and the terrorist attacks on the US:
i) US funds Israeli military to the tune of $3-4 billion per year.
That's over $10 for every man, woman and child in the US - wouldn't you rather have that money? In addition to that handful of bills, Israel receives a few billion more in economical aid. Overall, Israel receives a third of all US foreign aid - disproportionately more than it needs - while many developing world nations with starving populations receive next to nothing.
All those billions buy a lot of F-16s, Apache gunships, M1 Abrams tanks, small arms and ammo.
ii) Israel uses that hardware as it sees fit.
Invading its neighbours seems to be a popular option. Illegal occupation of territory seems to be another. Oh, and you might have seen or read recently that bombing, shelling and bulldozing civilian populations in their own homes is high up on the list too.
But hey, they were mostly Palestinians so they deserved it right?
iii) The Palestinians get pissed off.
Shock, horror, an oppressed population will fight back. And, as they generally don't have the kind of money or the means to buy F-16s, Apache gunships, M1 Abrams tanks or the like, they fight with whatever they can lay their hands on and any way they can.
Blowing yourself up in the hope that you take out a few others with you is a desperate act. But desperate people do desperate things.
iv) Someone else starts taking notice. Someone who can (and will) fight back.
Hit a young kid and he'll hit you back. Hit a slightly older kid and he'll call his Daddy. Then his Daddy will hit you back. Next, you tell your Pop what happened. Pretty soon, you've got two grown men slugging it out. See where this is going?
Zealots usually need a cause or a rallying cry. Can you think of a better reason to hurt someone than the fact that their hurting your loved ones? If someone was kicking the crap out of your brother wouldn't you want to kick the crap out of them? Wouldn't justice/honour/revenge demand it? Well, under Islam all muslims are brothers - they're all one big, unhappy family.
That's the way some people see this situation. Israel's kicking the crap out of the Palestinians and the US gave them the means with which to do it. Israel might be pulling the trigger but it's the US that bought the loaded gun, gave it to them and turned the other way while the trigger was pulled.
Under US law, the accomplice is just as guilty as the trigger man - both are equally culpable and equally guilty. And guess what? That's the way the extremists see the Arab-Israeli situation and they're just as pissed off at the US as they are at Israel.
So when the extremists go looking for justice/honour/revenge they look for it in every direction. And that includes the US.
(Wouldn't everything have been so much better if Uncle Sam had given that $10 back to you in the first place?)
Now do you see the link? Or do I have to join the dots for you?
How hypocrital.
Don't Palestinians who've lived on that land for generations have any rights?
Isn't the Israeli army denying that anything untoward happened in Jenin and elsewhere just as bad as someone trying to deny the holocaust?
Isn't Israel's continuing harrassment of people that aren't its citizens on land that doesn't belong to it anything to be condemned?
Isn't Israel's flouting of international conventions, the UN's authority and human rights anything to be dismayed at?
Wake up and smell the coffee. Israel has blood on its hands. If it didn't then it wouldn't be surpressing the world's press or fighting UN efforts to investigate its actions.
Hey, just because jewish people have owned the actual land longer in recorded history means nothing. or that they had been living there a very long time until the ottoman empire came along, i think the expulsion of the jews during the ottoman empire was a good thing, the fact that it allowed the time when jewish people reclaimed their land from thousands of years before that they had no right to it, because the turkish empire had decried that right.
I completely agree that even though the ottoman empire (because they supported austrian in ww1) lost there land to the british, who, seeing the two varied populations (remember the jewish had been heavily emigrating BACK to israel there homeland from biblical times since 1880) seperated the land into two portions a palestinian and jewish part.
immediately after official british control in the situation the arab nations of jordan and egypt who controled the west bank and gaza strip respectively (remember palestein hasnt actually existed except for a very very very long time ago) they lost those areas, which allowed the israelis to recapture 85% of the land ceded the british in the defeat of the turks in ww1.
I beleive the genocide of the israeli jewish people should have succeded (since this was the well documented attempt by Jordan, Egypt, and Syria) we would not be having this problem, since there would be no palestien, israel would now be Jordan, and or Jordan, Syria, Egypt division. with no jewish people at all.
I mean if you look at the PLO (or PA) the flag is the same as jordans with the absence of a star, since PLO are actually a jordan faction that were left in israel, and the PLO's whole ideal was to destroy the israelis that were there.
I mean because they are dirty jews we can conveniently forget the fact that jewish and arabic peoples coexisted simultaniously from 1880 to 1946 in peace, and there was no "major" conflict between the two, until the jewish lobbied for an israeli government with the british at the end of ww1.
I cant forgive the stupid dirty jews for defending themselves when it was granted and then captureing strategicly important areas such as the gaza strip and the west bank. And i cant beleive these stupid jews even went so far as put forth a hand recently in being ready to accept the peace by ceding these two areas. Luckily the palestinians havent been swayed by the "peace process" which would allow them to live together in harmony, because they should destroy the jews, and the jews should die because they are illegal and have no right to live in the widely accepted relatively ancient homeland, i mean shit its not like they built jerusalem or anything lol.
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Taking an example to its extreme is a fallacy of logic. Putting your words into my mouth is incoherent bullshit.
I never said we should get rid of America. Ofcourse America is a factor in the cause of "terrorists" but this is through its pro-Israeli policy. They are American weapons that are killing the Palestinians, and American vetos that stop the United Nations from doing anything about it. As opposed to "getting rid of America", America could improve Arab (and recently International) opinion of itself by stopping the sale of military weapons to Israel, decreasing funding (approx. 3 billion in aid) that is used to purchase military goods, and letting the United Nations pass a resolution without "veto"'ing it. These actions would possibly do a lot more for the "war against terror" than military action.
Secondly, you claim that I somehow inferred that "jewish people are obviously lesser people". I said, nor believe, such a thing. You claim that Israel has a right to the lands because "Jews lived there for a long time", well I put it to you that the Palestinians also lived there a long time, and also have a right to the land. The Bible says that this was the "Promised" land, does that give Israel the right to bulldoze down a Palestinian home and occupy it themselves? Does a native Indian have the right to bulldoze down your house and put their own in its place?
No, Americans should not live in fear, and neither should Israelis. But to the same extent, the Palestinians should have the right to live in peace--without fear that they will be evicted, to govern their own country and exercise sovereignty over it.
Thinking that through my support of the Palestinian cause I am Anti-Semetic is not only illogic, but invalid. I think the Holocaust was a terrible tragedy, but it should not be used as an excuse by the Israeli government to commit other illegal acts and inhumane acts.
hypocritical? perhaps you should think that truly supporting either side is hypocritical, because you cannot point out something that the other side hadnt done in some fasion already.
the arabs that were there when israelis began moving back were there because there people KILLED the israeli population that was there.
But you also forget that the israelis had been coexisting before 1946 with palestinans since AT LEAST 1880.
When the arabs of the area wanted to commit genocide against the israelis (or at least a racial cleansing involving removal of the israelis) the israelis refused to budge from there new legally gained land, legally gained from british who had defeated the turks in ww1 (they supported austria and lost, effectively ending the ottoman empire). To remove the israelis from there land would have required complete and utter annihilation of a huge chunk of israeli population that lived in israel at the time, and this is what egypt, syria, and jordan attempted to do. Israel made a pre-emptive strike against israel, jordan not knowing egypt had been pooch screwed continued as planned with the attacks, and lost, lost badly, this was considerably after israel had been granted its nation state (1947). Luckily Arafat was around to destroy to create the PLO, finding his "roots" in a long distant past, roots that didnt matter when the land was controlled by jordan.
The stupid dirty jews were dumb by allowing the arabs to stay in the area instead of removing them as the arabs had intended to them. Stupid jewish mercy on there enemys has caused the problems of today, so the jews get what they deserve for not running them out at the beggining, and not listening to a precept of the old testament of "do unto others as they would do unto you."
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I suggest that you go back to your history books.
There was no attempt of genocide against the Israeli's by neighbouring Arab countries until Jews living in the then "Mandate of Palestine" declared Israel their own state, against International opinion. The Israelis fought Palestinians back from the land and eventually won. Immediately all surrounding Arab countries declared war on Israel and refused to recognise its government.
This seperation of a country was not appealing to neither the Palestinians nor the rest of the Arab world, kind of like if the West side of North America suddenly declared themselves their own country. In the years that followed, Isreal launched what it called a "pre-emptive strike" -- in other words a unprovoked strike -- against Egypt destroying its air power. Israel then moved against Jordan, Syria and Egypt capturing and occupying land in the 1967 war.
Israels continued occupation of these lands is considered illegal, however Israel continues to defy international law and the resultions passed by the United Nations.
You miss a point, the palestinians find the very fact that israelis are in israel (i mean all of it) is offensive that means that all the israelis have to be removed or killed to solve the problem.
America supports israel because they are our ally in the area, if they were weaker they would be dead by now. Yes we give them a lot of money, but much of that is because they are in a great position to extend our war capabilities in the arab theatre.
I see you obvisouly do not beleive suicide bombing children is inhuman.
and i dont see why you think americans should not live in fear, we are the ones that are causing the problem, the under funded afghans and alqueda are trying to solve it at a low budget, does this sound familiar to your argument? it should because its the same one. Just because they are arabs in palestiens and not afghanistanians doesnt mean that there goals are different. Both are fighting because they feel threatened by a larger, better funeded enemy. By validationg the actions of one you validate the actions of the other.
Just because the people involved are israelis and not americans should not mean anything to the argument. We send them money because the United States is there ally, and we turn a blind eye to it because we are doing just as bad things to afghanistanians, innocent afghanistanians, that the isralis are. to tell the israelis straight out that what they are doing is "bad" is to bring our own policy decisions in that area suspect, since in essence we took the same stand that the israelis did, fortunaly we are americans and can get away with everything.
In all truth i support neither israels or PLO in this matter, because the actions they BOTH have taken have been bad from a point of view and just as justly. To side with either one would be ignoring the crimes that they have commited. If you side with israel, and are american or british, then you are hypocritical because you have taken the same measures numerous times in history, if you side with PLO, and are american or british, then you are hypocritical because you condemed similar actions when done against your citizenry. If you side with PLO because they lived there for a long time, then you are a hypocrite because israelis have too lived there for a long time.
and yes an acceptable method when taking over someones country from them is to bulldoze there houses, burn them to the ground, and start anew, because 300 years down the line no one will remember, and when it happens to you, you can complain about it.
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Actually you are wrong on this, egypt, syria, and jordan were going to strike against israel, this is VERY WELL documented, israel instead decided they were going to win it, israel has the best spy network in the arab countries of any country in the world. there pre-emptive strike was for there very survival, the attack was going to happen, this has been proven by troop movements, israel was going to be invaded, if they had not destroyed the egyptian airforce then they would have been defeated.
Now i have several books on the subject, but if you are curiuos check the internet for "creation of israel" and then look at the timeline from 1880 to 2002.
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"You miss a point, the palestinians find the very fact that israelis are in israel (i mean all of it) is offensive that means that all the israelis have to be removed or killed to solve the problem."
I assume you can back up this claim with evidence. Possibly a survey of every Palestinian, or even the majority of Palestinians living in "Palestine".
"I see you obvisouly do not beleive suicide bombing children is inhuman."
Uhuh. So if I believe in A, and A=B, then C must also be true.
revisionist history
I only have the actions of the arab portion living in palestinian sectors to go by, if the poeple are not organized enough to self police themselves to stop residents from killing as many israelis jews as possible, then perhaps none of them are serious about the peace process, since the only people with any seeming say (arrafat, and other terrorist groups) are part of organizations whose existence is solely to destroy israel as a state, then what can you do. This is a historically proven point, a loud minority overules a quiet majority, few know that bolsheviks (who took over russia) is a litteral meaning for minority party, the mensheviks (majority party) did not speak loud enough and were not heard.
the regular palestinian obviously has no political voice, or power even if they do, since they do not depose there bad leaders to start on a peace process. when arrafat was closest to peace, he was the least popular, right now he is the most popular he has ever been.
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Considering the Lord of the Rings trilogy is an allegory for the Christian mythos, you're pretty much saying that Christianity is racist as well. Light is symbolic for good, darkness for evil. I have yet to see a dark-skinned christian arguing for the opposite (dark = good, light = bad) because of the "racist undertones." And when you get into the third book, Saruman the WHITE turns out to be really bad (taking over the shire, etc.) so your argument doesn't really hold up there either.
Your actions on earth echo in eternity.
Sorry, but the one that sounds like a racist here is you , since you are saying black people look like Amphibian aliens from the swamps of Naboo.
Please get a grip.
- sigs are for wimps.
He's a 10 year old boy for Christ's sake
Isn't the whole point that he gets lured over to the Dark Side? If he was evil to begin with it would be kind of crap wouldn't it?
Summation 2
This is what Sam thinks about the body of a dark skinned Southron warrior who fought and died for Sauron:
I think that shows pretty clearly that Tolkien wasn't equating darkness of skin with evil. After all, plenty of fair skinned men fought for Sauron as well."Mind, as manifested by the capacity to make choices, is to some extent present in every electron." -Freeman Dyson
Eesa posters gwana troll?
...is that George Lucas is of course incredibly rich and famous, where this Phantom Editor guy is a nobody.
Call me when he makes something of his own.
"Information wants to be paid"
Uh, I wouldn't consider myself a biblical scholar (even though I translate ancient Greek and have taken classes on the Tanach in a previous life), but I do believe that you are WRONG in saying the Old Testament says "Do unto others as they would have done unto you". You are in fact, misquoting the New Testament, when Jesus was replying to question of what was the greatest commandment. His response, according to King James: "All things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them." -- Matt 7:12
Let me point out that I am not what any Christian would consider a Christian... At any rate, your view of history is severely skewed. Did you even realize there was a history to the Middle East before the 1880's or European colonial rule?
far from being amazed at lucas, i have to say that i'm pretty amazed at how hyper-sensitive you guys (and most of america) seem to be. this is kind of OT, since i'm not referring specifically to SW or JarJar, but these comments on the page.
when you have a specific agenda, you can generally find something to be angry about. going out of your way to create something that couldn't possibly be offensive to anyone leads to boring characters, and more importantly, a total void in the area of social commentary.
i'm not saying that a targeted assault can necessarily be explained away as social commentary, but i do think there is merit in reflecting reality rather than some sort of peaceful place where nobody's feelings are ever hurt.
how far would art in all its forms progress if we stopped anything offensive? and who gets to decide whether it's offensive -- you, me, or my reactionary catholic grandmother? or perhaps jerry falwell? where do you draw the line?
it seems to me that american culture is increasingly defined by what cannot be done, rather than what can.
Stupid moderators! I want to see a text transcript, too! (Couldn't find one on the site.)
It'd be nice to define a way to re-edit a film from DVD footage, such that you can redistribute the edit as simple "score" information. You just list the edit segments as references to timed slices of the original data. The resulting file would be tiny, and you're not sharing any copyrighted information. When you "play" the edit, the DVD player just skips around the source movie playing the edits in order.
More complicated editing techniques like the separation of audio and video tracks (to maintain music continuity for instance) could be implemented by having separate edit information for each. The player software must become a little smarter at this point though.
This mechanism could also be used to implement the "amateur commentaries" that Ebert talked about a little while back. You just include the commentary information in a separate file, which would be much smaller as you would have to provide only the actual commentary, not all the "dead air" between comments. The edit score would play the appropriate comment at the right time, with nice crossfading if you prefer.
Yes, you do have valid points. You shouldn't hammer them into everyone the way you are doing, but you do have valid points. Israel has a right to exist, but at the same time, the Palestinians have a right to live on certain sections of that land. A compromise needs to be reached, and that's what politics is all about. You have a thing about Israel having the right to that land. Sure, agreed, but since the Palestinians do not like what's happening, surely you don't disagree with the fact that they have a right to at least some say in the matter?
Amazingly I thought it was about the Phantom Edit of Episode I. As in the movie that came out a long time ago? All I have to whine about is people that don't read articles and then flame others....
Why didn't they make use of subtitles in this movie. It would have been just as effective in conveying peoples messages (it was used for most of the aliens in the original trilogy). In the original 3 movies the only accents you seemed to hear were british and american(with the brits being the bad guys i.e. the empire). Perhaps it seems that the movie was aimed at a younger audience, perhaps one that can't read subtitles indstead of anas an older one, and accents had to be used to differentiate one group from another.
Bring back the old version of slashdot.
Old Man and the Sea? UGH!!! I HATE that book!
So you're saying he goes from being Oliver Twist to Heinrich Himmler? That doesn't make a lot of sense.
The trade federation in The Phantom Menace was making fun of the Chinese government, not the Japanese.
-Mike_L
cause at least Lucas isults all people equally.
cu,
Lispy
Wow, the things people will do for a few Karma points! :-P
Most critics consider Ulysses to be the best book of the century, with Brave New World in second.
Well, that's the problem, if you judge books by what critics write about them you are just part of the mass, no individiality and imagination.
Have you even read the books yourself ?
Book critics are just publicity whores with only hint of education, style and intelligence.
It's called an edit decision list and despite jmu1's wierd response, should be perfectly legal.
The studio's support or even permission should not be needed because the distributed file as CaseyB suggests would contain none of the original movie.
You would need to use DeCSS to make an unencrypted mpeg-2 file, but people who make EDLs and the tools to parse them need not be involved in that.
Video editing tools that parse standard format EDLs (Discreet's "edit" supports CMX, GVG & Sony formats) already exist, but tend to be the expensive ones. The cheap ones (I use Cinestream (EditDV) from discreet (used to be Radius, Digital Origin, Media 100)) only use proprietary formats.
The EDL parser would be fairly simple because it doesn't need to be a full-blown editor and deal with a bunch of files; it would only have one very long "daily" to work from. It might have to create new I frames if cuts occur on B or P frames. Much simpler than a full-blown editor like edit.
A tool to convert human-readable EDLs to CMX ones would enable people to watch a movie on a regular-ol' DVD player, make notes of the in & out point times & just type 'em into an email message to someone who knows how to run the re-processor.
Damn, this sounds like a fun project.
-M
I advise you to read Himmler's biography first before you open that hole in your face. It doesn't look like you know much at all about human behavior at all. It makes perfect sense.
:-/).
(Re: entry prior to this: wtf?? I don't think the feminists would be too happy
In my copy, I can't seem to watch the whole movie chonologically; I can only watch one scene at a time. The "feature" is simply that they present you a list of scenes in chronological order.
Did you just hit "play" and watch the whole thing?
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I mod down every jackass who puts his moderation policy in his sig. Oh, wait a sec....
"Elfin heroes", eh? Sounds like you don't like Tolkien. (I believe the term you were looking for was "dwarf-like"). Fucking chics, eh? Hmmmm. . It seems that a great deal of "Adults" need to mature to the level of children. How sad and tragic.
I am glad though, that they didn't throw in a token black character. They were dealing with small isolated populations. You likely wouldn't get someone with a really different skin color so it'd be a blatant "Don't hate us, here's your token minority" gesture. Now on the other hand, if they'd made (for instance) the wood elves dark (or the Rivendell ones) that would have made some sense because they were a seperate population. But it's unthinking knee-jerk PC gestures that stick out like a sore thumb.
Yes. Like having a black Vulcan in Star Trek: Voyager.
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
Ulysses? Isn't that book pretty much unreadable?
Well, I know winamp supports vbr. And OGG has vbr as part of the standard.
autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
That black guy only got the part because he was the best man for it!
You big racist!