Slashdot effect. No mirrors. That's all there is to it.
Whenever a new release of their distro is released, they will most likely not be able to handle all the traffic, and will thus have little traffic.
There's not much more to it - even something like kernel 2.4 or RH minor-version deels are really hard to get with a complete mirror system across the globe. A single company (ok, maybe BBNPlanet) generally cannot get that kind of bandwidth for $15 a person (if it can be gotten at all).
(in case you're wondering, I found out when a friend was setting up a webcam... It had to have 2 different apps to run the netscape and non-netscape servers...)
In very high-security applications (government facilities, military, etc), there is no root.
There are administrators, who can control certain daemons and such, but they cannot read the top-secret data contained in other users' accounts.
Granted, many people using ACL's will not be using cables with shielded pressurized tubes around them, but it is still a very convenient and often necessary feature on multiuser systems.
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In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
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Now the earth was [1] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
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And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.
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God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness.
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God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning--the first day.
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And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water."
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So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so.
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God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning--the second day.
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And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so.
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God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.
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Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so.
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The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
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And there was evening, and there was morning--the third day.
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And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years,
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and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so.
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God made two great lights--the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.
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God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth,
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to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good.
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And there was evening, and there was morning--the fourth day.
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And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky."
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So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
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God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth."
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And there was evening, and there was morning--the fifth day.
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And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so.
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God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.
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Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [2] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
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So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.
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God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."
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Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
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And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground--everything that has the breath of life in it--I give every green plant for food." And it was so.
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God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning--the sixth day.
The Bible is very abstract at times (a thousand years -> longer than I can think about, anyone?).
It also doesn't say whether evolution is the way we were created or not (and I know I'm going to hear this, so here: Maybe God let things evolve up to us, and then created a special one (and then another) that was capable of being with Him).
We were created by God, and were/are the first (and only) ones capable of being with Him. I'll leave it at that.
(btw, I don't check back on comments, so if you reply or want to debate about it, send me an e-mail)
In the mny times I've been in the Rich building (drools as he thinks of all the unused 64-processor SGI's sitting just a few feet from the glass...), I've seen waaaay more students than professionals sitting at the control-center-looking thing.
And I highly doubt that any real professional would design and implement a system for 'file' (specialized for MP3) sharing on resnet:)
But, of course, there is some truth in it - BBNPlanet (or whoever has the southeast's backbone there) wouldn't let students within arm's length of a piece of fiber.
Also, it would be a Good Thing to make it completely optional in the makefile (or with a configure flag) and stick a few IFDEF's in there to avoid too much controversy:)
I doubt it would be too significant, though I do remember something along those lines from apollo 13 (it's a movie, so it's inherently correct) - they weren't allowed to pee because getting rid of it would mean setting the module off course.
I'm not worried - most of those who actually pirate (though maybe not those pirated for) at least have the skillz to figure out how ghost computers or something of that sort. (so it would be necessary to check on boot, but it might be a huge mess to switch around if it's done wrong now)
Also, mass-manufacturing of computers will not be possible if any unique identifier is necessary to boot/install windows. That's all there is to it. If there is a common identifier in a manufacturer's computers, they will get lots of business for raw hardware (I wonder why...), with MS wondering how so many people are running it unlicensed.
Anything the good guys have (a tool that can make the keys with a script or something running on an in-house server) the bad guys will obtain or make. That's all there is to it.
What else would be so worthy of being put on a wall and drooled over?
Even if they had a pipe that big, I'm sure we could get 99% throughput if we really tried (or possibly 100%, though it never seems to happen in real life...)
Use of a registered firearm or other legal weapon for the purpose of self-defense is perfectly legal, but shooting someone who is simply doing their job will get you in jail for life. They pose no threat to you, however annoying or unwanted they may be.
I know someone already mentioned going to a psychologist, and I can pretty much tell you that it doesn't work a lot of the time (at least, from the few too many I've been to).
It may seem like friends will make you happy. I've tried, it just didn't work. I tried a lot of other stuff too, and pretty much found that God is. One can reason anything away, including God (and, on the same line, one's own existence).
Christ is the way. It's your choice to believe or not. Drop me a message if you want, I might be able to find some answers for you.
About a lot of churches: christianity in the past has been, shall we say, the popular thing to do. And in becoming that, it's meaning has become 'do nice things, be a nice person', which (though inherent once you start to get a little glimpse of it) is pretty much a 11 (of 10) on the that's-out-there scale.
Note: I'm not trying to start a flamewar (<-- READ:-)
Once Linux is ready for the mainstream, will it really suit geeks? Once all control of the operating system goes to 'the default setting work fine', is there really a way that one can make a server-oriented system perform better than a GUI-running-staroffice system?
Sure, one could split distributions and all of that, but in the end that would leave us with multiple kernel forks (not a Good Thing), quite a few more distros (depends on how you look at it), and more spread out and unmotivated developers (not ALL, but to the point of too many people saying 'I'm only doing this because they're paying me to').
dude, you weren't supposed to tell anyone - now they're watching you:)
IIRC, the proper procedure would be to buy rack space from that oil rig off of England and send it out as an encrypted tarball anonymously over usenet? Man, you gotta get these things right...
Without any kind of stepping stone, people will never want to switch to Linux (say your boss wants to see what it's like without trashing his box completely), this way they can get kind of used to the look/feel of it, so the step to Linux won't leave them in the dark.
If this was something more than an executive memorandum, it'd be awesome, but AFAIK executive memorandums are kind of like laws that last until the president gets put out of office, and the next president can do whatever he wants to them, and Clinton is only in office until Janruary.
I read up on the TOC protocol a while ago (before it went 'closed'), and read the GAIM code a bit too... It seemed that it wouldn't really be hard at all to put SSL in to encrypt the messages - one could set it up so that before sending, the body part of the message could be encrypted (and maybe be html-encoded), keep the headers intact, and then have the other side decrypt...
(gazes off into the distance, as Garth would) It just seems too easy...
Seriously, though: If this could be in high demand, e-mail me and I'll consider using my 5th period (Directed study... Only no one else can figure out what I'm doing:) ) to work on it
Also it's damn close to the GT campus itself which is one of the most wired places in the country thanks to the 1996 Olympics (fiber, fiber everywhere), so I am sure DSL will be easy to find.
It seems like that'd be true at first, but it's pretty common for stuff to get routed all over the place before it hits the 'Tech backbone (one of my friends who has telocity has to send stuff through NYC and Chicago just to get to his server at GTRI a mile or two down the road)
A lot of people are complaining that XF 4.0[.1] is hard to set up... just write down your modelines and upgrade to RH pinstripe (7.0-beta)... it's a bit different (packages have changed a lot, etc), but it has Xconfigurator, XF86Setup (maybe?), and a few other things that are now made for the 4.0-series.
My experience (one of the TNT2 cards, and a voodoo2): it autodetected the cards automagically, but I didn't have the modelines for my monitor (DOH!), but a quick look-at-your-old-config-files gave the modelines I needed. The man pages are a TON more helpful than they used to be, too.
That said, it's important to remember that, before I am flamed to death, most of the true geeks (kernel developers, coders, sysadmin's, etc.) don't spend their time writing \. comments about how much things cost. In other words, this applies quite a bit to the average slashdot-poster (patiently awaiting flames), but don't apply it to anyone else.
One constant thing I have heard from many Linux/BSD/Solaris (et al) geeks is that when something better comes out, they're going to use it. If Delphi/BCB are better, they will be used. Otherwise, they will not.
I'll leave the rest to someone who's more awake...
"The Lord will fight for you; you only need be still."
I have suspected this for a while, and MS's quick response time (unless I have the facts misconstrued, in which case, you should ignore this part) supports the conspiracy theory - MS has people surfing all news sites at all times in order to further destroy the universe.
'Destroy the universe?!?', you say? yes. This MS-will-have-the-world stuff is all wrong. It leaves out the other, more important part of their plan - to reclaim their we-can-destroy-more-universes-than-anyone-else-wit hout-anyone-noticing title, which was first beaten when I proved young Cohen wrong repeatedly in math one day. This is made possible by sliding, the act of passing into another dimension, and green paint, which simplifies things quite a bit.
It's getting late, I've most likely confused the simple-minded conformists enough for one day, and the force field power supply is ready to die, so I must rest for coming days...
Slashdot Mirror
(note: forgot to put the disclaimer - if I could walk out to the store and get a CD like I could RedHat, I wouldn't care. But I can't.)
Slashdot effect. No mirrors. That's all there is to it.
Whenever a new release of their distro is released, they will most likely not be able to handle all the traffic, and will thus have little traffic.
There's not much more to it - even something like kernel 2.4 or RH minor-version deels are really hard to get with a complete mirror system across the globe. A single company (ok, maybe BBNPlanet) generally cannot get that kind of bandwidth for $15 a person (if it can be gotten at all).
h4x0r, m4n, h4x0r... g3t w1th th3 pr0gr4m, d00d
IE doesn't support it. Go figure.
(in case you're wondering, I found out when a friend was setting up a webcam... It had to have 2 different apps to run the netscape and non-netscape servers...)
Wrong.
In very high-security applications (government facilities, military, etc), there is no root.
There are administrators, who can control certain daemons and such, but they cannot read the top-secret data contained in other users' accounts.
Granted, many people using ACL's will not be using cables with shielded pressurized tubes around them, but it is still a very convenient and often necessary feature on multiuser systems.
The Bible is very abstract at times (a thousand years -> longer than I can think about, anyone?).
It also doesn't say whether evolution is the way we were created or not (and I know I'm going to hear this, so here: Maybe God let things evolve up to us, and then created a special one (and then another) that was capable of being with Him).
We were created by God, and were/are the first (and only) ones capable of being with Him. I'll leave it at that.
(btw, I don't check back on comments, so if you reply or want to debate about it, send me an e-mail)
In the mny times I've been in the Rich building (drools as he thinks of all the unused 64-processor SGI's sitting just a few feet from the glass...), I've seen waaaay more students than professionals sitting at the control-center-looking thing.
:)
:)
And I highly doubt that any real professional would design and implement a system for 'file' (specialized for MP3) sharing on resnet
But, of course, there is some truth in it - BBNPlanet (or whoever has the southeast's backbone there) wouldn't let students within arm's length of a piece of fiber.
Anyway, enough ranting for now
This is definitely the way it needs to be done.
:)
Also, it would be a Good Thing to make it completely optional in the makefile (or with a configure flag) and stick a few IFDEF's in there to avoid too much controversy
I doubt it would be too significant, though I do remember something along those lines from apollo 13 (it's a movie, so it's inherently correct) - they weren't allowed to pee because getting rid of it would mean setting the module off course.
I'm not worried - most of those who actually pirate (though maybe not those pirated for) at least have the skillz to figure out how ghost computers or something of that sort. (so it would be necessary to check on boot, but it might be a huge mess to switch around if it's done wrong now)
Also, mass-manufacturing of computers will not be possible if any unique identifier is necessary to boot/install windows. That's all there is to it. If there is a common identifier in a manufacturer's computers, they will get lots of business for raw hardware (I wonder why...), with MS wondering how so many people are running it unlicensed.
Anything the good guys have (a tool that can make the keys with a script or something running on an in-house server) the bad guys will obtain or make. That's all there is to it.
What else would be so worthy of being put on a wall and drooled over?
Even if they had a pipe that big, I'm sure we could get 99% throughput if we really tried (or possibly 100%, though it never seems to happen in real life...)
Currently (about 20:49 EST), the largest slashdot effect I've ever seen is taking place -
We're pounding kernel.org at almost 99 MBit/S.
Now only if they had another 1.5 terabit router...
Moderate down -
Use of a registered firearm or other legal weapon for the purpose of self-defense is perfectly legal, but shooting someone who is simply doing their job will get you in jail for life. They pose no threat to you, however annoying or unwanted they may be.
I know someone already mentioned going to a psychologist, and I can pretty much tell you that it doesn't work a lot of the time (at least, from the few too many I've been to).
It may seem like friends will make you happy. I've tried, it just didn't work. I tried a lot of other stuff too, and pretty much found that God is. One can reason anything away, including God (and, on the same line, one's own existence).
Christ is the way. It's your choice to believe or not. Drop me a message if you want, I might be able to find some answers for you.
About a lot of churches: christianity in the past has been, shall we say, the popular thing to do. And in becoming that, it's meaning has become 'do nice things, be a nice person', which (though inherent once you start to get a little glimpse of it) is pretty much a 11 (of 10) on the that's-out-there scale.
About a lot of christians: Yes, we are imperfect.
Anyway, that's enough rambling for one night...
Note: I'm not trying to start a flamewar (<-- READ :-)
Once Linux is ready for the mainstream, will it really suit geeks? Once all control of the operating system goes to 'the default setting work fine', is there really a way that one can make a server-oriented system perform better than a GUI-running-staroffice system?
Sure, one could split distributions and all of that, but in the end that would leave us with multiple kernel forks (not a Good Thing), quite a few more distros (depends on how you look at it), and more spread out and unmotivated developers (not ALL, but to the point of too many people saying 'I'm only doing this because they're paying me to').
And then what have we become?
dude, you weren't supposed to tell anyone - now they're watching you :)
IIRC, the proper procedure would be to buy rack space from that oil rig off of England and send it out as an encrypted tarball anonymously over usenet? Man, you gotta get these things right...
Emacs is not cross-platform. Emacs IS a platform.
Without any kind of stepping stone, people will never want to switch to Linux (say your boss wants to see what it's like without trashing his box completely), this way they can get kind of used to the look/feel of it, so the step to Linux won't leave them in the dark.
It's a necessary step in taking over the world.
IIRC, I remember there being something about a soviet ship losing pressure and its crew dying sometime.
:)
At least, there was something of that sort. And if it didn't really happen, it did purely because I said so. Of course. Now it makes sense
If this was something more than an executive memorandum, it'd be awesome, but AFAIK executive memorandums are kind of like laws that last until the president gets put out of office, and the next president can do whatever he wants to them, and Clinton is only in office until Janruary.
I read up on the TOC protocol a while ago (before it went 'closed'), and read the GAIM code a bit too... It seemed that it wouldn't really be hard at all to put SSL in to encrypt the messages - one could set it up so that before sending, the body part of the message could be encrypted (and maybe be html-encoded), keep the headers intact, and then have the other side decrypt...
:) ) to work on it
(gazes off into the distance, as Garth would) It just seems too easy...
Seriously, though: If this could be in high demand, e-mail me and I'll consider using my 5th period (Directed study... Only no one else can figure out what I'm doing
-Brian
It seems like that'd be true at first, but it's pretty common for stuff to get routed all over the place before it hits the 'Tech backbone (one of my friends who has telocity has to send stuff through NYC and Chicago just to get to his server at GTRI a mile or two down the road)
-Brian
My experience (one of the TNT2 cards, and a voodoo2): it autodetected the cards automagically, but I didn't have the modelines for my monitor (DOH!), but a quick look-at-your-old-config-files gave the modelines I needed. The man pages are a TON more helpful than they used to be, too.
RH 7.0beta can be gotten from a few mirrors if you can't get onto ftp.redhat.com (I got it from ftp://ftp.metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/distributions/ redhat/redhat-7.0-beta/pinstripe)
-Brian
In two words and a few characters: THIS IS \.
That said, it's important to remember that, before I am flamed to death, most of the true geeks (kernel developers, coders, sysadmin's, etc.) don't spend their time writing \. comments about how much things cost. In other words, this applies quite a bit to the average slashdot-poster (patiently awaiting flames), but don't apply it to anyone else.
One constant thing I have heard from many Linux/BSD/Solaris (et al) geeks is that when something better comes out, they're going to use it. If Delphi/BCB are better, they will be used. Otherwise, they will not.
I'll leave the rest to someone who's more awake...
"The Lord will fight for you; you only need be still."
'Destroy the universe?!?', you say? yes. This MS-will-have-the-world stuff is all wrong. It leaves out the other, more important part of their plan - to reclaim their we-can-destroy-more-universes-than-anyone-else-wit hout-anyone-noticing title, which was first beaten when I proved young Cohen wrong repeatedly in math one day. This is made possible by sliding, the act of passing into another dimension, and green paint, which simplifies things quite a bit.
It's getting late, I've most likely confused the simple-minded conformists enough for one day, and the force field power supply is ready to die, so I must rest for coming days...