You agree that, to maintain or improve the service, or for other business reasons, TELUS can in its sole discretion, suspend, restrict, modify or terminate all or any part of the service or make changes to the network and other facilities without notice to you.
And that is why "agreements" like this are worthless. They should just say "Here's what you are required to do... we can do as we damn well please."
But honestly, is there any point in signing a contract when one party retains all rights to completely change the contract without allowing you the ability to opt-out of the contract? Is this even legal? Probably... can we change it?
I am not real big on "consumer protections" but this type of stuff just seems ridiculous. At some point we have to realize that cell phones and internet access are pretty much not a privilege any more. All of us should have access to these shared resources (the tubes).
You are a fucking idiot. You obviously haven't taken the time to do any research about your opinions. You must get all of your news from/. MS Windows Server 2003 doesn't require a user license to access a website on that server. It is unlimited. I would read your BS blog and comment, but I don't want to give you another hit.
IT WORKS PEOPLE. I did exactly that (but since I didn't want to mess with sending voice, I just used the XP fax utility). Setup my GF's laptop next to the phone and plugged in the modem (first time in AGES). Every 15 minutes the scheduled task fired a "fax" to the annoying company. After they called multiple times each day for weeks, they quit calling me the day I implemented Marketing Faxor(TM).
ps. Can't remember if I used a vbscript - probably, I use it for most everything on windows. But if the fax util accepts command line args, you might be able to avoid the vbscript. And I am sure there is a way to do it in Linux... someone else chime in with that info.
You are going to have to lower your standards on this site... or at least learn to appreciate this type of joke; the rest of us geeks find that stuff funny.
I hear this quite a bit on the internet. It seems people that work in large environments don't realize how many people work with small computer networks. Half of the US work force works for a company with under 500 employees. You can check that here Census info. Since there are more small companies, and fewer large companies, there is a higher percentage of the total small/medium (under 500) workers that will be in a decision making position. It is also very likely that these smaller companies are the kind of business that can have all their systems shut down for a weekend a couple times a year.
My anectodal evedence is that I current provide IT services for 3 places. All in that under 500. 1 is 24/6, the others are M-F 8-8. However, they are all manufacturers in some way. So that may also have something to do with it.
I didn't say that. I said they are bigger, but have 1/10 (got it right this time) of the US pop. Not only that but I would venture to guess that there are FAR fewer people in the permafrost regions than in the US rural ares. So if you count the whole country... not the same (too big a change in pop). If you don't count barely inhabited regions, the country is about 1/10 the size of the US. None of this is scientific, but I don't think US to Canada comparisons (for this purpose) are worth even mentioning.
"In Texas, and other southern states, it is not terribly uncommon for parents to hold their children back a year in school so that they will be bigger to compete in football."
Crap. Complete crap. I am from Texas, knew one guy that started late, and it wasn't for football. He was a badass freshman year. By varsity we all caught up. Has it happened? Yeah... does it happen all the time just for athletics? No.
As far as consentual and what not... this is a sport - one that the fans would like to enjoy. Joe Blow wants to dope? Who cares? But players in an organized sport that has viewership in the hundreds of millions? There are rules for a reason (why can't you just run outside those white lines to score a TD)!!
big difference in joe blow doing roids and Jerry Rice doing it.
There is no possible way the US and Canada have the same disperstion. Canada has 1/100 the population of the US and (not checking) probably more land mass. That last sentence simply cannot be true.
If you are going to try to claim that you shouldn't count the permafrost and those areas, then we can't really consider Canada to be even remotely similar to the US.
Agreed. That internet license is at least 25K, btw. Or you could just use the free version, like I do. WSS 3.0
Something else most slashdotters prolly dont know is that once you buy a CAL for your DC (obviously you have to) you don't need one for every server in your org. Just one per device/user. This doesn't mean that you don't still need a Sharepoint/Exchange/??? CAL in addition to your windows CAL. I confirmed that with MS licensing support (not for this post, of course).
That is why I am a Libertarian. Ron Paul is too GOML to switch and thinks he can bring traditional Republican values back to the party, but I think it is too far gone. Switch to Libertarianism; our motto is "Smaller Govt, Lower Taxes, More Freedom" or that's one...
OT: I wish they would switch the nominees to Root/Barr. I'm voting for RootBarr!
but vbscript has been around for 10 years and isn't going anywhere. Using VBscript is probably as close as you can come to Perl/python for windows administration. Again 10 years and running. The argument that they change things too often is true, but might also be a side-effect of the drastic changes in computing during their current hay day (just look at the difference between 98 and 08).
Now that I got a few informative's, lets get a few flaimbait's...
I went to Canonical and "bought" (put in cart) a year of Ubuntu Desktop Support... $293!!!! #)%}&"#^*! That's about as bad as Vista Ultimate!
Server Support was $881!! THAT IS MORE THAN W2K3!
So why would I, a self admitted Windows Admin, ever want to switch? Surely I am going to want more than "community support" if I ever dare put a production ERP system on Linux. But if that costs more than the Windows Server I know and have used daily for 10 years (as have the other IT staff), from a business standpoint, why bother?
Well, I am a moderate Libertarian and I see an issue with it. If cops know that in the line of the their duty, they would not normally be able to access that data without a warrant (which I am sure they knew, or the boss that told them to do it knew), then they shouldn't be able to waltz in, flash a badge and all nonchalantly ask for some stuff. Then later claim, "Well, we were just some dude's asking for some stuff. What's the big deal?" It is a big deal becuase we expect the cops to enforce the law and therfore they must respect the law in every way. They signed up to a higher standard when they took the oath. Maybe that just my idealist side?
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You agree that, to maintain or improve the service, or for other business reasons, TELUS can in its sole discretion, suspend, restrict, modify or terminate all or any part of the service or make changes to the network and other facilities without notice to you.
And that is why "agreements" like this are worthless. They should just say "Here's what you are required to do... we can do as we damn well please." But honestly, is there any point in signing a contract when one party retains all rights to completely change the contract without allowing you the ability to opt-out of the contract? Is this even legal? Probably... can we change it?
I am not real big on "consumer protections" but this type of stuff just seems ridiculous. At some point we have to realize that cell phones and internet access are pretty much not a privilege any more. All of us should have access to these shared resources (the tubes).
You are a fucking idiot. You obviously haven't taken the time to do any research about your opinions. You must get all of your news from /. MS Windows Server 2003 doesn't require a user license to access a website on that server. It is unlimited. I would read your BS blog and comment, but I don't want to give you another hit.
Wasn't that supposed to be "you privileged, insensitive clod!"
We gotta keep the meme's going, ya know.
IT WORKS PEOPLE. I did exactly that (but since I didn't want to mess with sending voice, I just used the XP fax utility). Setup my GF's laptop next to the phone and plugged in the modem (first time in AGES). Every 15 minutes the scheduled task fired a "fax" to the annoying company. After they called multiple times each day for weeks, they quit calling me the day I implemented Marketing Faxor(TM).
ps. Can't remember if I used a vbscript - probably, I use it for most everything on windows. But if the fax util accepts command line args, you might be able to avoid the vbscript. And I am sure there is a way to do it in Linux... someone else chime in with that info.
Oh man, thank god I am in early or my coworkers would be wondering why I am crying. That was great.
Why are you a troll? I admit it wasn't that funny, but it wasn't troll/flamebait!!
Besides being used for traffic-shaping, DPI can also monitor the traffic of ISP subscribers to supply targeted advertising."
I think there might be a few more issues than the innocuous sounding "traffic shaping" and targeted ads.
You are going to have to lower your standards on this site... or at least learn to appreciate this type of joke; the rest of us geeks find that stuff funny.
How do you tag an article??? I have been trying to figure that out since I joined. Faq is no help.
The unfortunate side effect of tolerance is that you must tolerate the morons.
I hear this quite a bit on the internet. It seems people that work in large environments don't realize how many people work with small computer networks. Half of the US work force works for a company with under 500 employees. You can check that here Census info. Since there are more small companies, and fewer large companies, there is a higher percentage of the total small/medium (under 500) workers that will be in a decision making position. It is also very likely that these smaller companies are the kind of business that can have all their systems shut down for a weekend a couple times a year.
My anectodal evedence is that I current provide IT services for 3 places. All in that under 500. 1 is 24/6, the others are M-F 8-8. However, they are all manufacturers in some way. So that may also have something to do with it.
Maybe that is a good thing? Maybe non-techies don't need to know it is linux. Really for Linux to win they just need to know it isn't Windows.
I didn't say that. I said they are bigger, but have 1/10 (got it right this time) of the US pop. Not only that but I would venture to guess that there are FAR fewer people in the permafrost regions than in the US rural ares. So if you count the whole country... not the same (too big a change in pop). If you don't count barely inhabited regions, the country is about 1/10 the size of the US. None of this is scientific, but I don't think US to Canada comparisons (for this purpose) are worth even mentioning.
sorry about that.
"In Texas, and other southern states, it is not terribly uncommon for parents to hold their children back a year in school so that they will be bigger to compete in football."
Crap. Complete crap. I am from Texas, knew one guy that started late, and it wasn't for football. He was a badass freshman year. By varsity we all caught up. Has it happened? Yeah... does it happen all the time just for athletics? No.
As far as consentual and what not... this is a sport - one that the fans would like to enjoy. Joe Blow wants to dope? Who cares? But players in an organized sport that has viewership in the hundreds of millions? There are rules for a reason (why can't you just run outside those white lines to score a TD)!!
big difference in joe blow doing roids and Jerry Rice doing it.
There is no possible way the US and Canada have the same disperstion. Canada has 1/100 the population of the US and (not checking) probably more land mass. That last sentence simply cannot be true.
If you are going to try to claim that you shouldn't count the permafrost and those areas, then we can't really consider Canada to be even remotely similar to the US.
Agreed. That internet license is at least 25K, btw. Or you could just use the free version, like I do. WSS 3.0
Something else most slashdotters prolly dont know is that once you buy a CAL for your DC (obviously you have to) you don't need one for every server in your org. Just one per device/user. This doesn't mean that you don't still need a Sharepoint/Exchange/??? CAL in addition to your windows CAL. I confirmed that with MS licensing support (not for this post, of course).
218 words. 6 paragraphs, 3 of which are in TFS. No source. No links. Few details.
I do agree, that is an interesting tidbit there, but it's an idle story at best. Fark material IMO.
That is why I am a Libertarian. Ron Paul is too GOML to switch and thinks he can bring traditional Republican values back to the party, but I think it is too far gone. Switch to Libertarianism; our motto is "Smaller Govt, Lower Taxes, More Freedom" or that's one...
OT: I wish they would switch the nominees to Root/Barr. I'm voting for RootBarr!
That's a website (will run on windows). Completely different story. Just cuz it's in PHP doesn't mean it's an enterprise *Linux* app.
Wrong. You don't have to buy a CAL for a public website user! The Windows webserver edition is also cheaper than the regular.
but vbscript has been around for 10 years and isn't going anywhere. Using VBscript is probably as close as you can come to Perl/python for windows administration. Again 10 years and running. The argument that they change things too often is true, but might also be a side-effect of the drastic changes in computing during their current hay day (just look at the difference between 98 and 08).
But if that is true why can you select a quantity of 10? And the price goes up!
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That link actually works.
Now that I got a few informative's, lets get a few flaimbait's...
I went to Canonical and "bought" (put in cart) a year of Ubuntu Desktop Support... $293!!!! #)%}&"#^*! That's about as bad as Vista Ultimate!
Server Support was $881!! THAT IS MORE THAN W2K3!
So why would I, a self admitted Windows Admin, ever want to switch? Surely I am going to want more than "community support" if I ever dare put a production ERP system on Linux. But if that costs more than the Windows Server I know and have used daily for 10 years (as have the other IT staff), from a business standpoint, why bother?
Well, I am a moderate Libertarian and I see an issue with it. If cops know that in the line of the their duty, they would not normally be able to access that data without a warrant (which I am sure they knew, or the boss that told them to do it knew), then they shouldn't be able to waltz in, flash a badge and all nonchalantly ask for some stuff. Then later claim, "Well, we were just some dude's asking for some stuff. What's the big deal?" It is a big deal becuase we expect the cops to enforce the law and therfore they must respect the law in every way. They signed up to a higher standard when they took the oath. Maybe that just my idealist side?