I don't think we are heading for a new cold war europeans have been in space for years.
The problems are the funding (and this is what is being discussed in the article) To the best of my knowledge all the worlds space agencies are losing money. Currently the only way they make money (apart from ever reducing government grants) is by launching comercial cargo. This is why there is so much crap up their in orbit.
We need to limit the amount of commerical launches or we risk ruining space for the next few generations. If this extra money means less satilites are launched for companies that will go bust before they are ever used then it is good money. But if the money is going to be used to subsidise the launches of this type of cargo then it good money after bad.
The reason for a euro GPS system is also commercial. You need to be a partner of the US government to get full access to GPS data at the highest resolution. The euro GPS will sell to those companies that want to make use of accurate GPS data but can't (or are unwilling to attempt) to get the US government to play ball. This is both a good and bad thing. If access to accurate GPS helps governments and companies develop and help local peoples then it is a good idea but I personally think the data will be used by robber oil barons and weapons manufacturers making the current situations even worse for the average man on the streets.
all the names we used to look up to are dieing, is it our fault?
years back I wanted to run SCO (couldn't afford it) played with Minix (didn't pay for it) and then Linux arrives and so do I. After linux I didn't need SCO.
I always wanted an SGI box if only to play with 3d graphics. They where too expensive I carried on buying PC's and ran free unices eventully getting the performance I wanted for a couple of hundred quid.
I always wanted a Sun machine they where just the ultimate (to me at least) so eventully I splashed out on an Ultra Sparc (I just had to get those extra 32 bits before the wintel brigade) so what if it was beige it has a 18inch flat panel display, and those mythical 64 bits I was after. I soon got bored with Solaris and went back to Debian, now those extra 32 bits are rarely used in userland.
We are killing off all the hacker companies we used to respect and the big boys that we had no respect for are getting all the corporate dosh thats left around. Perhaps SGI, Sun et al need to start putting out some cool bits and pieces in our price range because MS and IBM are getting our bosses money.
SCO are gonna's by their own making I just hope SGI and Sun manage to pull a few tricks out of the hat or they will also self destruct. I never owned an Alpha becuase DEC tossed itself to the mercy of it's competitors I hope that I get an SGI one day if only for the cool case;-)
I grow alot of my own food organically. This has got to be the ultimate reality hack getting stuff to eat from playing with dirt.
the ways used to combat pests (slugs are a problem in our damp climate) and the deludge of water in the winter and total lack of water in the summer are pretty cool hacks that are age old.
I have an automatic watering system that stores rain water and during dry spells automaticall waters. The windows on my greenhouse open automatically when it gets hot. And compost, compost is the best age old hack we wouldn't be here without composting;-)
We also make the majority of our own bread and have recently stopped making wine and beer due to changing drinking habits as I past 30.
And ladies, Gentlemen and Trolls we have a winner of the post pendantic post of the day!
beautifull coastline is normally complete with endless wave power:-)
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couple of points.
1). Did Caldera own the code in question when they where in the distro market?
2). I don't think the licence on a linux distro is a boilerplate thing. I am not sure that a SCO distribution with a GPL kernel containing the code would sanction the use of said code unless their copyright was on the kernel code in question.
The kernel is released under a boiler plate licence with a Linus copyright and contains code with other copyright messages also covered by the GPL.
Unless SCO modified the kernel and added their licence to the code above the Linus one (making the kernel in thier release a fork of the linux code) would just bundling the code with other software in a distribution authorise the re-licensing of their code?
At last after spending £3000 on dog, bluetooth phone, linux pda (with voice interface) I can spend a night in the cells for saying 'Finger Dog, FFFINNNGGGGEEERRR DDDDOOOOOGGGG!, finGER D O G, Just FINGER THE EFFING DOG' in polite company.
or I could just get write a script in about 10 lines of Bash to SMS an image to me from a webcam on reciept of the right email/SMS
New Zealand has a pretty good climate for generating power using renewable sources.
In the uk we have a similar climate (but not as much free space;-) and have the resources to generate the power for the whole of europe using just the wind.
down in NZ you have wind, rain and lots of beautifull coastline. Try and pursude your government to do use these natural resources in a non destructive manner. They are just starving you of power so that you agree to build nuclear power stations the same as the government here did many years ago and is now regretting.
Don't let your government con you into taking on environmental time bombs.
http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/contentlookup.cfm?S it ekeyParam=D-B&CFID=476623&CFTOKEN=49498382&MenuPoi nt=D
every once in a while, slashdot catches up with the rest of the world;-) I used to read about this in wired before wired got tired and we all know how long that has been.
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/3.05/future.i f. html?pg=2&topic=
ip over mains has been talked about for years. google alone gives over 1.5 million pages for this topic.
not off topic, not a troll, just wondering why slashdot is decending into the mire.
if you sail on over to lowtech.org you can see a group in the UK using redundant technology both in art and in society.
the group a2rt (www.a2rt.org) are also starting up something similar as well.
The reasoning behind using lowtech computers in art and social projects was given by James Walbank the founder of the lowtech project in this speech to an arts conference with the theme of revolution. James correctly pointed out that you can't have a revolution with a price tag of over £1000.
Just set up apache and add wml to the types defined in the httpd.conf file.
The real work of WAP is done by the gateway at the service provider all you do is serve WML pages to that like you would html.
Javaserverlets shouldn't be a problem as long as you can find a way of maintaining the states, serve the data in chunks using the WML methods provided for that reason.
I would love to have the source to all the software on my machine, but sometimes that is just not possible. Without the drivers from Lucent the winmodem in my laptop would be useless, I know that eventully an open source replacment will come (or lucent open theirs) but at the moment I need the closed source drivers. Lets not bash ppl for closing the source at least we now have DVD and Winmodem support.
ppl from the uk and the eu may be interested that www.linuxuk.co.uk had this story online several hours ago. sometimes things can take a little long to reach/. so maybe you should drop by and see what we have to offer from time to time. BTW I love DOSEmu and think all the guys that have worked on the project over the last 8 years really deserve a big hand, DOS had so much hidden away that recreating all the undocumented stuff can't have been easy.
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I don't think we are heading for a new cold war europeans have been in space for years.
The problems are the funding (and this is what is being discussed in the article) To the best of my knowledge all the worlds space agencies are losing money. Currently the only way they make money (apart from ever reducing government grants) is by launching comercial cargo. This is why there is so much crap up their in orbit.
We need to limit the amount of commerical launches or we risk ruining space for the next few generations. If this extra money means less satilites are launched for companies that will go bust before they are ever used then it is good money. But if the money is going to be used to subsidise the launches of this type of cargo then it good money after bad.
The reason for a euro GPS system is also commercial. You need to be a partner of the US government to get full access to GPS data at the highest resolution. The euro GPS will sell to those companies that want to make use of accurate GPS data but can't (or are unwilling to attempt) to get the US government to play ball. This is both a good and bad thing. If access to accurate GPS helps governments and companies develop and help local peoples then it is a good idea but I personally think the data will be used by robber oil barons and weapons manufacturers making the current situations even worse for the average man on the streets.
this is SCO joke they are getting everywhere.
until SCO show us the code they are going nowhere fast, after they do they will probably go down the pan fast.
sparkes
"Perhaps it's april fools day in redmond now?"
Dam that windows automatic daylight saving routine!
sparkes
They tried to call it P# but the message kept getting filtered ;-)
boom boom
sparkes
This brings to light a whole new world of _ossibilities.
What other letters would slashdotters like to see disa_ear?
Many _eople will vote to lose the letters MS so here they go never to return in _o_t_ on _la_dot.
Over the la_t few week_ many have _uggested that the letter_ _CO sh_uld never been _een again. __ here they g_.
___e here d_n't like the letter_ B_D __ there they g_.
unf_rtunatly we are n_t left _any letter_ t_ use for variable_ and ___n all the i'_ and j'_ will used u_.
_n_e we _tarted to l__e all the v_wels in our __st_ thing_ g_t even wor_e.
_v_nt_lly th_ __n_t_nt_ w_nt __ w_ll _nd l_ft _s w_th v_ry l_ttl_ l_ft.
_____ ___ _ __ ___ ___ ___.
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all the names we used to look up to are dieing, is it our fault?
;-)
years back I wanted to run SCO (couldn't afford it) played with Minix (didn't pay for it) and then Linux arrives and so do I. After linux I didn't need SCO.
I always wanted an SGI box if only to play with 3d graphics. They where too expensive I carried on buying PC's and ran free unices eventully getting the performance I wanted for a couple of hundred quid.
I always wanted a Sun machine they where just the ultimate (to me at least) so eventully I splashed out on an Ultra Sparc (I just had to get those extra 32 bits before the wintel brigade) so what if it was beige it has a 18inch flat panel display, and those mythical 64 bits I was after. I soon got bored with Solaris and went back to Debian, now those extra 32 bits are rarely used in userland.
We are killing off all the hacker companies we used to respect and the big boys that we had no respect for are getting all the corporate dosh thats left around. Perhaps SGI, Sun et al need to start putting out some cool bits and pieces in our price range because MS and IBM are getting our bosses money.
SCO are gonna's by their own making I just hope SGI and Sun manage to pull a few tricks out of the hat or they will also self destruct. I never owned an Alpha becuase DEC tossed itself to the mercy of it's competitors I hope that I get an SGI one day if only for the cool case
sparkes
I grow alot of my own food organically. This has got to be the ultimate reality hack getting stuff to eat from playing with dirt.
;-)
;-)
the ways used to combat pests (slugs are a problem in our damp climate) and the deludge of water in the winter and total lack of water in the summer are pretty cool hacks that are age old.
I have an automatic watering system that stores rain water and during dry spells automaticall waters. The windows on my greenhouse open automatically when it gets hot. And compost, compost is the best age old hack we wouldn't be here without composting
We also make the majority of our own bread and have recently stopped making wine and beer due to changing drinking habits as I past 30.
Green hacking is the way to go. Just look at all the ways people are getting wired off the grid. my personal fav resource is the centre for alternative technology and home power.
You can teach anyone to play with computers but getting them to play with computers, garden, bake and brew is a the sign of a real hacker
sparkes
And ladies, Gentlemen and Trolls we have a winner of the post pendantic post of the day!
:-)
beautifull coastline is normally complete with endless wave power
couple of points.
1). Did Caldera own the code in question when they where in the distro market?
2). I don't think the licence on a linux distro is a boilerplate thing. I am not sure that a SCO distribution with a GPL kernel containing the code would sanction the use of said code unless their copyright was on the kernel code in question.
The kernel is released under a boiler plate licence with a Linus copyright and contains code with other copyright messages also covered by the GPL.
Unless SCO modified the kernel and added their licence to the code above the Linus one (making the kernel in thier release a fork of the linux code) would just bundling the code with other software in a distribution authorise the re-licensing of their code?
sparkes
At last after spending £3000 on dog, bluetooth phone, linux pda (with voice interface) I can spend a night in the cells for saying 'Finger Dog, FFFINNNGGGGEEERRR DDDDOOOOOGGGG!, finGER D O G, Just FINGER THE EFFING DOG' in polite company.
or I could just get write a script in about 10 lines of Bash to SMS an image to me from a webcam on reciept of the right email/SMS
sparkes
New Zealand has a pretty good climate for generating power using renewable sources.
;-) and have the resources to generate the power for the whole of europe using just the wind.
S it ekeyParam=D-B&CFID=476623&CFTOKEN=49498382&MenuPoi nt=D
In the uk we have a similar climate (but not as much free space
down in NZ you have wind, rain and lots of beautifull coastline. Try and pursude your government to do use these natural resources in a non destructive manner. They are just starving you of power so that you agree to build nuclear power stations the same as the government here did many years ago and is now regretting.
Don't let your government con you into taking on environmental time bombs.
http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/contentlookup.cfm?
sparkes
bags I get to name to problem;-)
p e= org&command=slashdot
not quite as bad as the day the internet died as all it means in real terms is a few people will try to buy domain names that arn't available.
anyone want to buy slashdot.org?
http://www.domaincity.co.uk/cgi-bin/whois.pl?ty
it seems to be for sale, or maybe not
sparkes
every once in a while, slashdot catches up with the rest of the world ;-) I used to read about this in wired before wired got tired and we all know how long that has been.
i f. html?pg=2&topic=
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/3.05/future.
ip over mains has been talked about for years. google alone gives over 1.5 million pages for this topic.
not off topic, not a troll, just wondering why slashdot is decending into the mire.
sparkes
At last a solution to all the trolling problems on slashdot.
t ml.
;-)
you see trolls are made of silica and other elements found in igneous rocks(the stuff mountains are made of).
75% to 45% of the average igneous rock is silica http://www.geog.ouc.bc.ca/physgeog/contents/10e.h
therefore trolls are more than 45% (and maybe as much as 75%) silica.
turn the heat up on trolls, and create the raw materials for more computers.
sparkes
PS. or alternativly lets just contine to ignore them
except that MS hasn't brought into linux they have licensed Unix code. The two are a little different.
sparkes
if you sail on over to lowtech.org you can see a group in the UK using redundant technology both in art and in society.
the group a2rt (www.a2rt.org) are also starting up something similar as well.
The reasoning behind using lowtech computers in art and social projects was given by James Walbank the founder of the lowtech project in this speech to an arts conference with the theme of revolution. James correctly pointed out that you can't have a revolution with a price tag of over £1000.
favourite pieces include redundant array, and the video wall that was reprised in even better fashion here at fort lux
Art is what you make it, found art is what you find and what you make it, lowtech art is finding art in skips.
sparkes
As usual debian beats the nasdeq boys.
Virual refugees the world over are desperate for virtual food, and clothing.
pls donate as much as you virtually can.
laugh it's meant to be funny
I wouldn't take a Red Hat exam, they are very good, but at the end of the day they may be percieved as still tieing yourself to one os.
;-)
Remember how your MSCE friends used to brag but now you point at them in the street
Lets not forget the other exams available.
We host our sites over there to avoid liable laws.
Just set up apache and add wml to the types defined in the httpd.conf file.
The real work of WAP is done by the gateway at the service provider all you do is serve WML pages to that like you would html.
Javaserverlets shouldn't be a problem as long as you can find a way of maintaining the states, serve the data in chunks using the WML methods provided for that reason.
I serve WML with apache, php, mysql no problems.
enjoy
I would love to have the source to all the software on my machine, but sometimes that is just not possible. Without the drivers from Lucent the winmodem in my laptop would be useless, I know that eventully an open source replacment will come (or lucent open theirs) but at the moment I need the closed source drivers. Lets not bash ppl for closing the source at least we now have DVD and Winmodem support.
hey come back ahhh I get it a flamebait
If you could compress anything and put it in your pocket what would you choose and why?
ppl from the uk and the eu may be interested that www.linuxuk.co.uk had this story online several hours ago. /. so maybe you should drop by and see what we have to offer from time to time.
sometimes things can take a little long to reach
BTW I love DOSEmu and think all the guys that have worked on the project over the last 8 years really deserve a big hand, DOS had so much hidden away that recreating all the undocumented stuff can't have been easy.