If you hired her, she would not be your SLAVE, she would be your EMPLOYEE, and would therefore be free to quit. If you hired someone to kidnap her and bring her to you, then that's kidnapping, not capitalism.
Captitalism has its flaws definitely, but if you want to talk about FORCING people to do things, then you're talking about Socialism.
The vast majority of India is not Muslim, and given that they get their fair share of Muslims blowing themselves up in public places, I doubt the EU's "Muslim friendliness" will account for much in their decision of who to align with.
RedHat isn't going to offer that to me. Instead, they want $50 from me simply for access to their security updates
Um... you do know that you can use up2date for free. You just have to fill out a few surveys now and then, and occasionally you have to wait a bit when the servers are overloaded for paying customers.
Of course, it may be because many of those in the Debian-oriented mentality simply hate to document or make book-like material
I wouldn't say that. Debian has a reasonable amount of books, as well as an enourmous array of online guides. There is also an excellent documentation project aimed exclusively at newbies.
They don't have any real problem breaking binary compat with other distros[...]
Please name one other distribution that actually does have a problem with breaking binary compatibility?
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That "annoying habit" is damn useful if you're running several servers that perform automatic upgrades via a cron job. Which would you prefer: an out of date version that does what it was intended to do (if not, why did you install it in the first place) or an up to date version that changes some config options that result in vital services crashing due to incorrect configs...?
DHCP was "invented" by the IETF. The whole "Microsoft invented DHCP" is a net.legend about as viable as Microsoft buying Redhat or Bill Gates sending you money to forward an email.
I'm not a representative of anything. I use Debian, but I also use Redhat, Slackware, Windows 2000, Solaris, and IRIX. I don't really care if you use Debian or anything else for that matter. What I do care about is uninformed tools waxing on about how ________ is "broken", but they can't intelligently explain why this is the case, other than to say "Wah! it sucks!" and when they go trying to figure out what went wrong, that same inability to actually *explain* what went wrong provokes individuals to deal you a harsh reality check, in which you reply "Wah! _________ users are rude!"
Yes, there are some smug, self-superior pricks on debian mailing lists, but they are by no means debian specific. debian-user is by far one of the best support lists of any distribution (and one of the highest volume lists on the 'net - yeah, the debian community is "so small"). Time and time again I have seen the most no-doc-reading, "please do it for me" people be dealt with patiently and helpfully. I am not patient and helpful because I am a bastard with no patience - if you don't like that, please file a complaint with me, as that is the only thing I am representative of. The only reason I bothered with a reply to you is simply for the fact that ignorant, whiny posts get on my nerves.
Why don't you tell me HOW the networking is broken, and perhaps I'd deal with you more politely. For the time being I'll just classify you as someone who likes to bitch, and doesn't really want solutions, just a reason to bitch.
Oh yeah, and please tell me how Slackware's install process is any better than Debian's. Neither of them are nearly as arcane as people make them out to be, but they are essentially very similar.
correct. of course, it won't be a working system, you will have to spend two or three hours reconfiguring it before you can do any useful work (like, read a slashdot thread in a graphical browser).
apt-get install mozilla. That is, if it hasn't already been installed by one of the meta packages you choose at install. Mozilla is Free Software.
but, that won't happen until after you fix its broken networking, anyway.
What's broken? Enter your networking information at install, or use DHCP to do it for you.
You don't need to have your MTA actually listening on a port for it to send mail - only to receive it. For some MTAs, it doesn't even have to be running.
I am sick and tired of you people that treat Microsoft like some sort of poor disabled kid that we all need to be more sensitive to. Lighten the fuck up! These are *operating systems* people poke fun at other peoples OS's in good fun. Nobody took any of it seriously until your brigade of politically correct drones came in and made it some sort of jihad either for or against. Get over it, and while doing that, get over yourself.
There, I've laid it all out the best I can for you now, tell me where I'm being 'stupid'.
Hmm, where to start...
Here's my line of reasoning. One of the key points of Free software is free redistribution. This book could easily have been made available in digital form that could be freely redistributable. This seems to me like it would be in purest adherence with the Free principles. RMS's book is not available in a free, redistributable format.
That is where you're being stupid. Everything in the book is free redistributable. I wouldn't normally fault you for not reading the comments, but when you start saying with conviction that you know, then I think you deserve to be lambasting for talking of your ass. I quote:
Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of the book provided the copyright notice and this permission notice are preserved on all copies. Permission is granted to copy and distribute modified version of the book under the condition for verbatim copying Permission is granted to copy and distribute translations of this book into another, from the original English, with respect to the conditions on distribution of modified versions above, provided that it has been approved by the Free software Foundation.
Nobody said Free Software was about free labor for people who like to whine about not having stuff, but unwilling to do anything about it. If you want a collected online version, why don't you do something about it.
Sorry, but in the leap to appear clever and insightful a bunch of posters though they could post something witty about not being able to download the book. Unless you're talking about downloading the physical book into that replicator you just invented, it's an idiotic question. Just about everything Stallman has ever written publically is on gnu.org and/or stallman.org.
I graduated from college a little over one year ago, and maybe it's just my area (seriously doubtable), and it's IMPOSSIBLE to find IT related work around here without 3-5 years experience.
Do you actually apply for these jobs and get rejected, or do you look at the requirements, say "Damn, they won't take me" and move one? Most of the time the "required experience" for a job is cooked up by someone in HR who has no idea what the position really requires. Case in point: I had a friend looking for a job as a Java developer. He ran across one ad that called for someone with nine years Java experience. Java's only been publically available since 1995! Unless they were wanting to lure one of Sun's original dev team members into some entry level Java job, I think that the person crafting the ad had no idea what they were talking about.
The biggest problem I see with people who just graduated college is that they don't find any jobs saying "Fresh, new CS majors wanted!" and just give up. You have nothing to lose by applying for these "X years experience" jobs than an hour or so out of your day. Some might even be impressed with your initiative.
Both this comment and its parent appear in the previous story ("Egyptian Pyramid Mysteries to be Explored Live") just take a look at the title of each page.
While I agree with the majority of your comment, it still seems to me that it's a dubious proposition to say with certainty that the workers weren't slaves merely because they were treated well. To me, the word "slave" implies forced laborer. When you're talking about work that hard, it makes sense to keep you workers fit, slave or no. They were skilled workers, not easily replaceable. I simply find it hard to believe that if a pyramid worker tired of his profession, he would be allowed to leave and go on about his business. To me that's slavery.
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If you hired her, she would not be your SLAVE, she would be your EMPLOYEE, and would therefore be free to quit. If you hired someone to kidnap her and bring her to you, then that's kidnapping, not capitalism.
Captitalism has its flaws definitely, but if you want to talk about FORCING people to do things, then you're talking about Socialism.
The vast majority of India is not Muslim, and given that they get their fair share of Muslims blowing themselves up in public places, I doubt the EU's "Muslim friendliness" will account for much in their decision of who to align with.
I've seen Mandrake in Babbages's, Best Buy, and Wal-Mart... You're not looking very hard.
Actually, it was like that for me as well, until a little after 9 was released. It seems they got a bigger pipe.
Um... ok, if you really want to call some dude working at a video store an "industry insider".
Please name one other distribution that actually does have a problem with breaking binary compatibility?
That "annoying habit" is damn useful if you're running several servers that perform automatic upgrades via a cron job. Which would you prefer: an out of date version that does what it was intended to do (if not, why did you install it in the first place) or an up to date version that changes some config options that result in vital services crashing due to incorrect configs...?
I prefer the former, myself.
DHCP was "invented" by the IETF. The whole "Microsoft invented DHCP" is a net.legend about as viable as Microsoft buying Redhat or Bill Gates sending you money to forward an email.
I'm not a representative of anything. I use Debian, but I also use Redhat, Slackware, Windows 2000, Solaris, and IRIX. I don't really care if you use Debian or anything else for that matter. What I do care about is uninformed tools waxing on about how ________ is "broken", but they can't intelligently explain why this is the case, other than to say "Wah! it sucks!" and when they go trying to figure out what went wrong, that same inability to actually *explain* what went wrong provokes individuals to deal you a harsh reality check, in which you reply "Wah! _________ users are rude!"
Yes, there are some smug, self-superior pricks on debian mailing lists, but they are by no means debian specific. debian-user is by far one of the best support lists of any distribution (and one of the highest volume lists on the 'net - yeah, the debian community is "so small"). Time and time again I have seen the most no-doc-reading, "please do it for me" people be dealt with patiently and helpfully. I am not patient and helpful because I am a bastard with no patience - if you don't like that, please file a complaint with me, as that is the only thing I am representative of. The only reason I bothered with a reply to you is simply for the fact that ignorant, whiny posts get on my nerves.
Why don't you tell me HOW the networking is broken, and perhaps I'd deal with you more politely. For the time being I'll just classify you as someone who likes to bitch, and doesn't really want solutions, just a reason to bitch.
Oh yeah, and please tell me how Slackware's install process is any better than Debian's. Neither of them are nearly as arcane as people make them out to be, but they are essentially very similar.
apt-get install mozilla. That is, if it hasn't already been installed by one of the meta packages you choose at install. Mozilla is Free Software.
but, that won't happen until after you fix its broken networking, anyway.
What's broken? Enter your networking information at install, or use DHCP to do it for you.In other words, you're full of shit.
You don't need to have your MTA actually listening on a port for it to send mail - only to receive it. For some MTAs, it doesn't even have to be running.
"The Nazis had pieces of flair... that they made the Jews wear."
Wonderful...an intense gamma ray burst. I wonder how much this increases my chances of getting cancer...?
Only if you do a lot of sunbathing outside the Earth'r atmosphere.
I am sick and tired of you people that treat Microsoft like some sort of poor disabled kid that we all need to be more sensitive to. Lighten the fuck up! These are *operating systems* people poke fun at other peoples OS's in good fun. Nobody took any of it seriously until your brigade of politically correct drones came in and made it some sort of jihad either for or against. Get over it, and while doing that, get over yourself.
and your comment will appear when they talk about what a bunch of tinfoil hat wearing kooks they are as well.
It's called the "Google Dance", which is mentioned in an earlier comment.
Wait a minute... you want the book (which is full of his essays), but you "have no desire to read more Stallman essays".
Either you're trolling or an idiot. Probably both.
Hmm, where to start...
That is where you're being stupid. Everything in the book is free redistributable. I wouldn't normally fault you for not reading the comments, but when you start saying with conviction that you know, then I think you deserve to be lambasting for talking of your ass. I quote:
Nobody said Free Software was about free labor for people who like to whine about not having stuff, but unwilling to do anything about it. If you want a collected online version, why don't you do something about it.Sorry, but in the leap to appear clever and insightful a bunch of posters though they could post something witty about not being able to download the book. Unless you're talking about downloading the physical book into that replicator you just invented, it's an idiotic question. Just about everything Stallman has ever written publically is on gnu.org and/or stallman.org.
Do you actually apply for these jobs and get rejected, or do you look at the requirements, say "Damn, they won't take me" and move one? Most of the time the "required experience" for a job is cooked up by someone in HR who has no idea what the position really requires. Case in point: I had a friend looking for a job as a Java developer. He ran across one ad that called for someone with nine years Java experience. Java's only been publically available since 1995! Unless they were wanting to lure one of Sun's original dev team members into some entry level Java job, I think that the person crafting the ad had no idea what they were talking about.
The biggest problem I see with people who just graduated college is that they don't find any jobs saying "Fresh, new CS majors wanted!" and just give up. You have nothing to lose by applying for these "X years experience" jobs than an hour or so out of your day. Some might even be impressed with your initiative.
Is this some kind of archeology FUD-bot?
Both this comment and its parent appear in the previous story ("Egyptian Pyramid Mysteries to be Explored Live") just take a look at the title of each page.
While I agree with the majority of your comment, it still seems to me that it's a dubious proposition to say with certainty that the workers weren't slaves merely because they were treated well. To me, the word "slave" implies forced laborer. When you're talking about work that hard, it makes sense to keep you workers fit, slave or no. They were skilled workers, not easily replaceable. I simply find it hard to believe that if a pyramid worker tired of his profession, he would be allowed to leave and go on about his business. To me that's slavery.