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Why Do Google Hit Numbers Vary?

Supa-Fly writes "I have a question about some conflicting results with the search engine google. I did a search for "pictures of mountains" and got exactly 1 million results. My friend did the same search (from the same office)and got 1,010,000 results. A second friend did the same search as the last 2 and got 1,020,000. These have not changed and every person gets the same results each time. My question is what is up with the discrepancies on google's search results?" Since this question is hard to answer from the outside, Craig Silverstein of Google kindly supplies his best answer to this question, below.

Craig writes: "Thanks for the great question. We get this from time to time and hopefully I can clear up some of the confusion. The number of estimated pages listed to the top right of a Google search results page is indeed, an estimate. It's a good estimate but still, an estimate.

There are many reasons why one might see a difference in the estimated number of pages returned for the same query. It's most likely the queries made by your co-workers were sent to different Google datacenters in what appears to have been a round-robin fashion. The index at any given Google datacenter can change slightly over the course of a day (each index is refreshed completely every three to four weeks). Depending on which datacenter finishes a query, the estimated number of results may vary.

Without having direct access to your environment it is hard for me to tell for sure, however, I believe this is the case."

362 comments

  1. uh... by caino59 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    who cares....as long as it works...chances are you don't go past the first 2 or 3 pages.....

    1. Re:uh... by swordboy · · Score: 4, Funny

      I have a question about some conflicting results with the search engine google. I did a search for "pictures of mountains" and got exactly 1 million results.

      Steven? Is that you? Dude - you're smoking too much pot!

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    2. Re:uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
      • who cares....as long as it works
      You, sir, will never be a geek.
    3. Re:uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, some people (esp. geeks) want to know the why of things just because. You haven't been reading Slashdot for very long have you?

    4. Re:uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, pictures of mountains top out at page 84 for me: "In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 832 already displayed."

    5. Re:uh... by Masami+Eiri · · Score: 1

      This reminds me of the MacHall and Digimon porn debacle...

    6. Re:uh... by Cryolithic · · Score: 1

      Damn, I'm glad I live in Canada :)
      3 months just for a little pot?

    7. Re:uh... by kd5ujz · · Score: 1

      Dude, your going to jail!

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    8. Re:uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      here in the USA pot is considered a horrible, horrible drug. we have commercials which end w/the phrase "marijuana, harmless?" and show situations in which marijuana apparently caused horrible, horrible problems.

      none of which would not result from alcohol consumption, mind you. but...alcohol is legal...so....

    9. Re:uh... by squiggleslash · · Score: 3, Funny
      Finally, proof that pot isn't a "Gateway(tm)" drug...

      I'll get my coat...

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  2. My results by Ratfood · · Score: 0, Troll

    Results 1 - 10 of about 984,000. Search took 0.16 seconds

    1. Re:My results by ball-lightning · · Score: 1

      Results 1 - 10 of about 1,010,000. Search took 0.04 seconds

      The numbers seem to be consistent, I guess. Kinda of cool to have a little insight to how Google works, IMHO.

    2. Re:My results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Results 1 - 10 of about 1,030,000. Search took 0.05 seconds

      w00t!

    3. Re:My results by Scud_the_disposable_ · · Score: 1

      umm, d00d, can you not add? u win by 30,000, not 20, and besides, the guy under you has 1,030,000..

    4. Re:My results by corsec67 · · Score: 1

      my search took .05 seconds. same number, though

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  3. Question Aswered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    OK, great, question answered.

    Umm, why was this story posted?

    1. Re:Question Aswered by EatHam · · Score: 1

      Right now, several Google engineers are thinking "what the hell are all these searches for 'pictures of mountains'?"

  4. Interesting Google phenomena by ergo98 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Several weeks back I happened to mention a very nice new restaurant in Toronto on one of my pages, and within days shot to the #2 position on Google when searching for several variants of this restaurants name. I knew this by the fact that suddenly I was seeing closing on a hundred hits per day of people looking for this restaurant. Note that this restaurant has such a unique name that there are only around 5 pages of links in all anyways. Anyways suddenly the hits entirely stopped, and a search on Google found my page was purged from the database: Despite it being a unique name with few hits, it no longer even registered. A week later suddenly it was back in the #2 spot again.

    No idea why this happened, but it is entertaining to see it vary.

    1. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      would you be so kind to post the exact name?

    2. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      he wants hits, not a /. beating

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    3. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bymark Restaurant.

      Yes, i have no life.

    4. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by ergo98 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The interesting thing is that I really don't want hits, and never put the page up intending so (I gain no profit from people looking for this restaurant), but it just was sort of an offhanded thing where I mentioned it and due to the unique name and the exclusivity of it, suddenly got lots of hits. Didn't mention it merely because I don't intend to solicit or the like, but I thought it was interesting how the Google database seemed to rollback a transaction (albeit like a week long transaction) and didn't recover until the next spider.

    5. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by Uart · · Score: 1

      During the last presidential election my personal website, (formerly uartland.net, but now dead) was listed as #2 for "Al Gore Quotes" or some similar search. I was baffled by this as I hardly got any hits (couple hundred total).

      Long story short, a couple people sent me some nasty flames in response to the mentioned quotes.

      The point of all that is that Google really can't always be 100% accurate.

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    6. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by dknj · · Score: 4, Informative
    7. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by lemox · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's called the "Google Dance", which is mentioned in an earlier comment.

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    8. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by AntiNorm · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's called the "Google Dance"

      Wow, I must really be tired...the first thing I thought of when I read this was a hampsterdance.com-esque site complete with dancing "Google"s and background music.

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    9. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by certron · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Wow, I must really be tired...the first thing I thought of when I read this was a hampsterdance.com-esque site complete with dancing "Google"s and background music."

      Take a look at this:
      http://www.kuro5hin.org/comments/2003/1/27/ 221829/ 873?pid=13#16
      Be afraid... be very afraid...

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    10. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by rjamestaylor · · Score: 1

      I love Google because it sends people looking for John Howard Taylor to the appropriate location (hint: John is my son). It also does a nice job on rjamestaylor.

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    11. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is the coolest thing. Well, maybe not as cool as hot grits chasing Natlie Portman, but still damn cool.

    12. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by FyRE666 · · Score: 1

      Pfft - the hamster dance is so 90's - we now have the marvel of dancing, shouting kittens to amuse us all...

    13. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by jaavaaguru · · Score: 1

      It's also good for jaavaaguru, or any other fairly unique name.

    14. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by Joe+Hardy+(_yoda) · · Score: 1

      Dude, you just gave me one more reason to not buy the Vines' CD. Not that I was going to anyway ...

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    15. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by hackstraw · · Score: 2

      I guess since its google, its on topic right?

      Just last week I had a conference to go to and wanted directions. The sad thing was that when I put in my search, something like "williamsburg woodland center directions", my own website was the 1st link which was announcing the conference. BTW, it didn't have the directions on the page :).

    16. Re:Interesting Google phenomena by Dave2+Wickham · · Score: 1

      Valid Links

      Dave2 Wickham is also first for me ;).

  5. Huzaaaahh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Okay then. Case closed. Chalk another point up for Slashdot. *GROAN*

  6. ooh ooh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I got 1,030,000 hits.

    I'm better than you!

    nah nah poo poo ;oP

    1. Re:ooh ooh! by cmdrBurgerBurritoNac · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Wesuwts 1 - 10 of about 1,040,000. Seawch took 0.06 seconds

    2. Re:ooh ooh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1,040,000, Guess Im in the lead.
      My first search came up with 1,010,00 in .06 seconds.
      I hit search again and came up with 1,040,000 in .07 seconds, so my guess its a timeing issue? how it works I dont know. but I got the top score.

      oh yea, And yea is the value always 1,0x0,000? the answer must lye their.

    3. Re:ooh ooh! by sabshire · · Score: 1

      Darn, I only got 958,000... unless this is like golf, and lowest score wins! WooHoo!

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  7. Amazing! by PeterClark · · Score: 5, Insightful

    An "Ask Slashdot" that actually went to the source for the answer first, without the usually bad/wrong/pointless pontificating that normally goes along with it. How long can such a good thing last, I wonder.
    :Peter

    1. Re:Amazing! by unitron · · Score: 4, Funny
      "How long can such a good thing last, I wonder."

      The way Slashdot editors keep reposting stories? Indefinitely!

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    2. Re:Amazing! by Sebby · · Score: 4, Funny

      And with all the dupes, we might start seeing more of these too!

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    3. Re:Amazing! by Drakonian · · Score: 5, Funny
      How long can such a good thing last, I wonder.

      Maybe you should Ask Slashdot?

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    4. Re:Amazing! by damiam · · Score: 1

      That sorta defeats the point of "Ask /." - he's not asking us, he asked Google.

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    5. Re:Amazing! by SpaceLifeForm · · Score: 5, Funny
      Well, according to google,
      A search for 'ask slashdot correct answer'
      returns 10,400 hits.

      A search for 'ask slashdot'
      returns 104,000 hits.

      Therefore, I would conclude that Slashdot going directly to the source immediately is very rare.

      Obviously YMMV.

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    6. Re:Amazing! by tigertigr · · Score: 1

      And I see even users are in on the action with dupe jokes!

    7. Re:Amazing! by rabidcow · · Score: 3, Funny

      A search for 'ask slashdot correct answer'
      returns 10,400 hits.


      It's more rare than this first indicates.
      'ask slashdot not correct answer'
      returns 10,300 hits.

      So only 100 are actually correct, the rest are complaining about it not being correct.

    8. Re:Amazing! by Fletch · · Score: 1

      "Obviously YMMV."

      You, Sir, just missed the perfect opportunity to use a most useful google labs tool.

    9. Re:Amazing! by Sebby · · Score: 1

      lol

      I'd mod this up too if I could!

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    10. Re:Amazing! by teamhasnoi · · Score: 2, Funny
    11. Re:Amazing! by Wraithlyn · · Score: 0, Funny

      "Want more karma? Consider responding to any post of mine! Never fails."

      Really?? Intriguing. This demands a test.

      The weather is quite nice in Calgary right now. (Offtopic)

      Bill Gates is a visionary, and Microsoft Windows is far superior to Linux or Mac. Simpsons sucks. (Flamebait)

      F1rst p0zt! This article is stupid! Hemos and CmdrTaco are nazis! Free pR0n! (Troll)

      Hey, Google has varying results because they have multiple datacentres, btw. (Redundant)

      And this post will start at 2, which is definitely Overrated. That's every possible negative mod. This reply can't POSSIBLY gain karma.

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    12. Re:Amazing! by bicho · · Score: 1

      Then it might be a good idea to do "groups search" using groups theory.
      you know, like
      I want the results from the intersection of this search and that search.
      or
      "this search" - "that search", which would be the results on "this search", but not on "that search"

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    13. Re:Amazing! by godefroi · · Score: 1

      I had 3 mod points yesterday, and I woulda blown one on this. Definately worth it.

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    14. Re:Amazing! by jdh-22 · · Score: 1

      Hmmmm...I get different hits than you.
      I got 11,800 while searching for 'ask slashdot correct answer' and only 100,000 hits for searching 'ask slashdot'.

      Maybe I should write in to Ask Slashdot, and see what is going on.

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  8. number oddities by millette · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What's really odd is searching for a few words with OR, and noticing that adding words actually lowers the numbers of results obtained.

    1. Re:number oddities by pete_p · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's because Google doesn't do boolean searches. It will ignore the or (too common a word) and ends up treating it like an and search.

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    2. Re:number oddities by sparkz · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wrong. OR is a boolean operator to Google. Check the "Advanced Search" link.

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    3. Re:number oddities by millette · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, if you use an uppercase OR, it will perform a boolean search. Otherwise, the search defaults to an AND, unless of course you're using doublequotes "like this" to search for a phrase.

    4. Re:number oddities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It will, just not by default.

    5. Re:number oddities by KILNA · · Score: 1

      Interesting tidbit... Google seems to return the same results for

      "Two words"

      and

      Two-words

      You can now have an extra two keystrokes back!

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    6. Re:number oddities by spectre163 · · Score: 1

      I always thought (and still do think) that AND is a boolean term. Therefore even if it ignores OR as long as it operates on AND google IS doing a boolean search. It's just that its a limited one. Sorry I'm a computer programmer and we're anal about langauges, in particular syntax and semantics.

    7. Re:number oddities by Forgotten · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I nearly always use double quotes to search for phrases. It works extremely well with google. You can also combine multiple phrases, and unquoted terms as well.

      In fact, I'm surprised no one else mentioned that searching for "pictures of mountains" (quotes included) yields 1320 hits, which are likely to be much more useful than the other 998,690 or so. Though in this case I really would have searched for "pictures of mountains" OR "mountain pictures" (or done two searches).

      If you're not going to use the quotes, there's precious little point including the word "of" in the query.

      There are other useful tricks for the google search field listed on the help page, but double quotes is by far the most useful overall.

      (another handy trick if you're using Mac IE is to hack the app's resource fork so the '?' address bar shortcut goes to google instead of MSN - a trick expanded on in iCab's built in URL expansion)

    8. Re:number oddities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're not going to use the quotes, there's precious little point including the word "of" in the query.

      They must've changed this recently... whenever I used to include 'of' in a quoted string, google would always tell me it wasn't going to search for that word.

      I always had to write out queries like:

      "pictures +of mountains"

      glad to see this has been fixed.

    9. Re:number oddities by Nightpaw · · Score: 1

      I would have searched for "mountains" then clicked on the Images tab.

    10. Re:number oddities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quite a while back. But there's still not much use searching for words like 'of' outside of a phrase.

    11. Re:number oddities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't had great luck with Google's image search so far, but I'm sure it'll improve over time.

    12. Re:number oddities by kasperd · · Score: 1

      I have seen another oddity. I frequently do a search for more own name on google (with quotes). Going through the pages I have found that another person has the same name, but a lastname more than me. So I do another search for my own name and minus the full name on the other guy I found, and then get ten hits more. I have repeated this test and seen consistent results. Every time it was two searches done right after each other from the same computer.

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    13. Re:number oddities by jesser · · Score: 1

      You can also use | (pipe) in place of OR.

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    14. Re:number oddities by jedrek · · Score: 1

      I use dots. Since google treats all whitespace the same: a.cool.search == "a cool search".

    15. Re:number oddities by CProgrammer98 · · Score: 1

      Nope, he's right. He said "or" Google *will* ignore or. It, however, will treat OR as a boolean operator.

      (OR has to be in uppercase)

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    16. Re:number oddities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's.a.good.idea,.since.my.space.bar.barely.work s.these.days. ;)

      But.I.sort.of.feel.like.I'm.sending.a.telegram.

    17. Re:number oddities by frankie · · Score: 1
      I'm surprised no one else mentioned that searching for "pictures of mountains" (quotes included)

      And I'm surprised none of the Score:3+ posts mentioned that using Google Image Search would be even better.

    18. Re:number oddities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      try "portman hot grits"
      http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=& ie=UTF-8 &oe=UTF-8&safe=off&q=portman+hot+grits

      This will disturb you beyond belief.

  9. googledance by wfmcwalter · · Score: 5, Interesting
    There's a number of websites (dare I say "fansites") devoted to the study of google result variance - the so-called googledance.

    this and this

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    1. Re:googledance by nautical9 · · Score: 1
    2. Re:googledance by kiwirob · · Score: 3, Informative

      Google Dance Tool is also available a www.google-dance-tool.1hut.com

      This site checks every 5 minutes for the google dance and has a alert mailing list for subscribers to get notified as soon as the google dance starts.

    3. Re:googledance by sirinek · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      The words "Get" "A" and "life" come to mind! :)

      Of all the things to have a website about....

      Well, who am I kidding, mine's about as useful.... ;)

    4. Re:googledance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Webmaster World has the best forums I've seen for Google information.

      The Google Weblog is also an excellent resource.

      If you want to see Actual Google Inconsistencies, look at this page rank chart: Google Page Rank Discrepancy Chart yes, that really is the url, and yes, it's safe :)

    5. Re:googledance by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 1
      ...this...

      ... which breaks in a very amusing way. Go to http://www.google-dance.com/, type (self-referentially) 'google dance', and hit return.

      Sic transit gloria mundi, or something...

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  10. Atleast he game an answer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm glad to see it.

  11. Dude.. the story is troll post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The guy wanted people to come to the first hit on that google search. I get 1.010 as everyone would. Please do not go the the link on the first google search.

  12. That Darn Google... by Snagle · · Score: 1

    Always Picking Favorites :( . But what a lucky friend getting to look at a million and twenty thousand compared to his friends measly million. But anyways, I sure hope this doesnt seriously degrade anyones view of google....that would be kinda sad

  13. gg:pictures of mountains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    986 000 results for me.

    1. Re:gg:pictures of mountains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Results 1 - 10 of about 1,010,000. Search took 0.04 seconds.

      50% Redundant
      50% Informative

  14. Its too bad.. by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's too bad Google doesn't have one of those things where you can watch everyone's search scrolling down the screen live. I bet there would be a lot of "pictures of mountains" searches right about now.

    I think some engine had that (metacrawler)? back in the day, was fun to watch, and I believe they didnt censor it.

    1. Re:Its too bad.. by daveinthesky · · Score: 2, Informative

      We would all benefit from knowing which are the most popular searches. This, though, is all google offers if I remember correctly.

    2. Re:Its too bad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      excite had this feature at least as a "unpublished" url where you could see the latest search requests scroll by.

      it was pretty entertaining to watch all the queries

      sometimes there would be a really interesting one but most were for pop stars or porn.

    3. Re:Its too bad.. by danimal · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ah, but Google does have one....well, available at the Googleplex.

    4. Re:Its too bad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sort of like in the matrix?

    5. Re:Its too bad.. by Phroggy · · Score: 1, Informative

      It's too bad Google doesn't have one of those things where you can watch everyone's search scrolling down the screen live. I bet there would be a lot of "pictures of mountains" searches right about now.

      Try the Google Viewer maybe?

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    6. Re:Its too bad.. by Paul+Menage · · Score: 1
      It's too bad Google doesn't have one of those things where you can watch everyone's search scrolling down the screen live. I bet there would be a lot of "pictures of mountains" searches right about now.


      Actually they do. Unfortunately for those not in Silicon Valley, it's on the reception wall of their office in Mountain View ...
    7. Re:Its too bad.. by Phroggy · · Score: 0, Troll

      D'oh! Never mind, that's not what I thought it was. I thought I saw what you described once, but this isn't it.

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    8. Re:Its too bad.. by Tsuzuki · · Score: 3, Informative

      From a vague memory of the last major /. article about Google, don't they have a censored realtime display of searches scrolling behind their reception desk?

      And what you're thinking of is Metaspy - it still has that uncensored option. ;D

    9. Re:Its too bad.. by FunkSoulBrother · · Score: 1

      yeah, and its really uninteresting when they censor it all out. Uninformative, too.

    10. Re:Its too bad.. by mrm677 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It's too bad Google doesn't have one of those things where you can watch everyone's search scrolling down the screen live.

      No, but you can have Google scroll the results of your search!! Try this, and other "Google Experiments" at http://labs.google.com

    11. Re:Its too bad.. by oobar · · Score: 2, Informative

      This page at Search Engine Watch has a half dozen or so real-time search query viewers. It also has some quasi-realtime "search popularity" stuff too.

    12. Re:Its too bad.. by urbazewski · · Score: 1, Redundant
      ah, a friend who works at the googleplex reports that such lists do exist, and they looks something like:

      1) pr0n variation a
      2) pr0n variation b
      3) pr0n variation c
      ...

      and so on until you get down to about 7). Not sure where goatse.cx falls in the list.

      blog-O-rama

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    13. Re:Its too bad.. by wiill · · Score: 1

      I thought Ask Jeeves used to have a feature like this, but looking at their site now, it makes me a liar. i swear they used to have one.

    14. Re:Its too bad.. by tekunokurato · · Score: 1

      it was called "metaspy," and they had one censored and one uncensored version.

      There were some pretty scary searches, things involving goats and sisters and !lumberjacks!

    15. Re:Its too bad.. by broller · · Score: 1

      They still have it. I just found it by asking Jeeves "What do people ask Jeeves?" :)

      http://www.ask.com/docs/peek/

      According to the page it's updated every 30 seconds.

    16. Re:Its too bad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what you're thinking of is Metaspy - it still has that uncensored option. ;D

      Yeah, it sure does. I realize that I'd rather not know what people are searching for. I realize this now, after watching it for a few minutes. After someone searched for "how do I clean my dog's anal gland".

      Really, I'd rather not know these things. I must go now and poke out my mind's eye...

    17. Re:Its too bad.. by int69h · · Score: 1

      Altavista had this at one point.

    18. Re:Its too bad.. by zcat_NZ · · Score: 1

      I'm waiting to see if slashdot is 'big enough' to register on the zeitgeist(sp?) :)

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    19. Re:Its too bad.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They do. It's in their office in Mountain View. I read about it in a Wired article once. They often monitor it and can predict social behavior by it (like at 11pm a spike in sex related searches happens, guess why). I wish they had something like that publicly though...

    20. Re:Its too bad.. by muzthe42nd · · Score: 1

      Emm, yeah, in the UK at least they had like 3 pages or so that loaded at random and i'm sure it was just you paid to be seen on those pages. I saw the same results time after time after time

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    21. Re:Its too bad.. by jandrese · · Score: 1

      Is it just me or does that list look fake? Who types in that much verbiage to a search engine? I can see a few people doing it because Ask Jeeves encourages it, but not every single query? It looks more like some sort of useless FAQ page, except it gets rotated every 30 seconds.

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    22. Re:Its too bad.. by Dr.+Cody · · Score: 1
      It's too bad Google doesn't have one of those things where you can watch everyone's search scrolling down the screen live. I bet there would be a lot of "pictures of mountains" searches right about now.

      By "pictures of mountains," I think you mean "huge tracts of land."

  15. Distributed database? by ericski · · Score: 1

    If the database is distributed, results might be coming from different servers. After a certain point (so many millis?), the results are returned. This could result in the difference.

    1. Re:Distributed database? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Yeah but one would tend to think that the indices for the results are completely replicated everywhere - in which case you would think that the number of results should be consistent.

  16. wow, could we all have missed this? by Tiber · · Score: 5, Informative

    About a month ago, someone posted this story over on K5 regarding the google dance. Good to see it's run by a marketing site, I couldn't think of anyone who might have more of an interest in rankings then those bastards. :P

    1. Re:wow, could we all have missed this? by mr_vaffel · · Score: 1
      Good to see it's run by a marketing site, I couldn't think of anyone who might have more of an interest in rankings then those bastards.
      I might have an interest: If every slashdotter just keep searching frantically for "Tobias Busch Carlsen" until I rank as the number one Google-zeitgeist, I'll be glad...
    2. Re:wow, could we all have missed this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I might have an interest: If every slashdotter just keep searching frantically for "Tobias Busch Carlsen" until I rank as the number one Google-zeitgeist, I'll be glad...

      Why? Is that your boyfriend?

  17. Eureka! by creative_name · · Score: 5, Funny

    No wonder I couldn't find the website I was looking for! It was in those missing 10,000 websites. If I had only gotten those and checked through them as thoroughly as I checked the other 1,010,000 then I would have certainly found it.

    Humor aside, this is pretty interesting. Alot like when you vote in a poll, go back to the main /. page and the poll from last week appears. You'd think the Uber Midgets and Stealth Ninjas could get it right ;-)

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    1. Re:Eureka! by GimmeFuel · · Score: 2, Funny

      They do get it right, but then those elite squirrels show up and everything goes to hell.

  18. First Google Haiku Post by Ayanami+Rei · · Score: 5, Funny

    like snowflakes falling
    google queries melt upon
    different servers

    like the wild flowers
    each view of the database
    unique, yet alike

    and...
    its that time of month
    google dances, results wiggle
    w00t first haiku post

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    1. Re:First Google Haiku Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do well
      -bobtheprophet

    2. Re:First Google Haiku Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      once more, there it is
      another fucking haiku
      pains my tired eyes

    3. Re:First Google Haiku Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very nice. But I believe the correct pronunciation and spelling of "different" is "diff'rent". As in "Whatchew talkin' 'bout" (five syllables).

      Also, "google dances, results wiggle" appears to be eight syllables. May I suggest "results wiggle, googledance"?

  19. How do you "estimate" database count results ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful


    Surely the figure should be the exact number of results and not "estimated" as either those entries exist in the database or they do not, isnt it trivial just to display the database results count as an exact figure, how can you "estimate" a database count ?

    1. Re:How do you "estimate" database count results ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not your mom & pop mysql database. It's distributed datacenters receiving millions of requests simultaneously. Fucking hell you estimate that.

    2. Re:How do you "estimate" database count results ? by shamilton · · Score: 1

      Well, they couldn't be exact about it due to the dynamic nature of the database. However, I don't think the estimate is derived directly from the database.


      More likely, there is a whole other system which watches pages coming in and increases counters based on keywords, and has a rough idea how the main query engine works.


      sh

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    3. Re:How do you "estimate" database count results ? by Breakerofthings · · Score: 1

      Not all databases (or more precisely, search techniques) operate on discrete sets of entities ... some types of heuristic searches could give an estimate much cheaper than a precise answer. Could also be a probablistic thing ... perhaps google knows (or assumes) that a given dataset is normally distributed ... all they need is to take the first n entities (1000,10000, whatever), count the matches, and derive an estimate. In fact, this could easily be tabulated in a separate table when they build their indexes. (Think multiple dimensions, intersects of probabilities). The point is ... don't assume that "database" work means always operating deterministically on discrete sets of data.

  20. Best search engine by TrekkieGod · · Score: 1
    I wonder if the number in the estimate has anything to do with the pages it displays...does that mean that depending on which dataserver you reach, you don't get to see those extra 10,000 or 20,000 pages, assuming you actually went that far? Or are the search hits accurate, and just the count an estimate?

    Oh well...Google is still beating my photo album...I searched for pictures of mountains, and only found 3. And two of those are debatable. I'd classify one as a photo of an airplane, with a mountain on the background, and the other wasn't a mountain at all...it was a hill.

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    1. Re:Best search engine by FleshWound · · Score: 0, Offtopic
      the other wasn't a mountain at all...it was a hill.
      So, Google likes making mountains out of (mole)hills, eh? =)
  21. Removed the word "of"... by GuidoDEV · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...and got 40,000 more search results (10,010,000 to 10,050,000). "Of" isn't included in the original search anyway, so I wonder why removing it yields a different estimate.

    1. Re:Removed the word "of"... by asklepius · · Score: 1

      Also interesting:
      pictures of mountains 1,010,000
      mountains of pictures 1,050,000
      and in both cases, of was removed from the search.

    2. Re:Removed the word "of"... by creative_name · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Probably for the same reason that the original search numbers were different for different people. As others have said, when Google removes the word 'of' it essentially treats it as if there was an 'and' there. If you remove 'of' manually it does the exact same thing.

      Guido, my good man, I do believe you have witnessed first hand the not-so-elusive google-dance.

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    3. Re:Removed the word "of"... by GuidoDEV · · Score: 1

      It's unlikely the google dance is occurring now:

      http://dance.efactory.de/

      Besides, it shouldn't cause different results from the same server.

  22. Pictures of Mountains? No wonder by sssmashy · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's simple, really... mountains are the new thing in pornography. People are snapping and posting so many pictures of naughty, erotically shaped rock formations that the number of mountain pics available worldwide on the net is rising by about 10,000 every 10 minutes.

    Soon, the number of phallic granite pics worldwide will even exceed the number of Jenna Jameson facials. Quite the phenomenon, really.

    1. Re:Pictures of Mountains? No wonder by froodishone · · Score: 1

      The Mother of all stone Phalluses (picture taken in Kodachrome Basin State Park, Utah).

    2. Re:Pictures of Mountains? No wonder by breon.halling · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is for those of you who think he's kidding... ;)

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    3. Re:Pictures of Mountains? No wonder by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Err, shouldn't be father?

    4. Re:Pictures of Mountains? No wonder by boots@work · · Score: 1

      It's simple, really... mountains are the new thing in pornography.

      Just consider, for example, the Grand Tetons in Wyoming, or Canberra in Australia (supposedly an indigenous word for "breasts".)

    5. Re:Pictures of Mountains? No wonder by thekernel32 · · Score: 1

      What? Like the grand tetons? They apparently did it for those french guys back in the day. Perhaps you're on to something, but only with french people...

    6. Re:Pictures of Mountains? No wonder by mentalist23 · · Score: 1

      Soon, however, the traffic will reach a peak. Eyethagyew...

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  23. *grin* by Eric+Seppanen · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally, proof that all Ask Slashdot questions could be more quickly answered by simply checking with Google :)

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    1. Re:*grin* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROTFL and nodding earnestly. Well done.

  24. supa-fly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Submitted by Supa-Fly.

    Wasn't that the redneck geek in MTV's Real World New Orleans?

  25. Re:uh... (sex) by $$$$$exyGal · · Score: 3, Funny
    A friend of mine has the 250th or so (it changes daily) hit for the word 'sex', and he regularly gets 100-200 hits a day from Google and Yahoo (combined). Sometimes people (horny people) go past the first couple of pages ;-).

    --naked

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  26. Uh, so, what's the point of this story? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Question... answer... Why are we here?

  27. Peter Parker Is My Cousin by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 0, Troll
    Well, I'd say people who are generally interested in aspects of software engineering and programming in general are interested. It is true that most people aren't going to go past the first 2 or 3 pages so this 'bug/feature' isn't doing any negative harm BUT it's an oddity and I'm glad I've had it cleared up. I had never done such an experiment to see if the search result returns varied but now that I know that this happens, I'm glad to know why it happens. Of course, a little thought on the subject would probably lead to the conclusion that the searches must be being sent to different lookup engines since the same result going to the same DB will always return the same amount. And clearly Google is the type of enterprise that needs to have distributed data to distribute load.

    So, long story short - who cares? I do.

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    1. Re:Peter Parker Is My Cousin by tuxlove · · Score: 1

      Of course, a little thought on the subject would probably lead to the conclusion that the searches must be being sent to different lookup engines since the same result going to the same DB will always return the same amount.

      Unless you hit the same search engine and its index has been updated between searches.

  28. "Pictures of Mountains" by Jack+William+Bell · · Score: 0, Troll

    Ya, I bet. Mountains that come in pairs. With knobbly little tips.

    Yeesh...

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    Are you an SF Fan? Are you a Tru-Fan?
  29. This is a coverup by elhondo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Results have been inconsistent ever since they let those damn pigeons unionize. He's obviously covering for the union.

  30. Real-World Application by themaddone · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Hey, maybe it would be possible to modify this technology so that whenever anyone from the RIAA or MPAA did a search for MP3 or MPG, all they'd get is Whitehouse.com

  31. speak for yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I make it a point to visit every search result. Do a search for "Dutch Girls" and you'll see what I mean.

  32. Some different results by jsprat · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Here's what I get:

    "pictures of mountains" 986,000
    "pictures of of mountains" 1,010,000
    "pictures of of of mountains" 1,020,000

    Two of these pages had a different top-ranked link.
    Funny thing, all three times Google told me "of is a very common word and was not included in my search", but it made a difference!

    Regardless of these results, Google is the best search engine. Period.

    1. Re:Some different results by Wild+Wizard · · Score: 4, Interesting

      has no one metioned the advanced settings you can use that changes what sites you get in a search

      w/english only
      1,010,000

      w/all languages
      1,040,000

      w/strict filter and all languages
      903,000

      w/strict filter and english only
      881,000

    2. Re:Some different results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Funny thing, all three times Google told me "of is a very common word and was not included in my search", but it made a difference!
      No, that was not the cause of the difference. The difference was thoroughly explained in the story. How about you read the fucking story for starters?
    3. Re:Some different results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If wordProximityIndex is calculated before calling removeCommonWords, then the subsequent hits=lookup(keywords[],wordProximityIndex)
      will return > hits for more ors.

    4. Re:Some different results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If YOU read the story, youd realise that searching from the same IP/location should use the same datacenter and therefore return the same number of results - as stated by the original poster.

    5. Re:Some different results by Flakeloaf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Deciding to test Google's AI, I took this a step further:

      all things are not always are not always you need to know you learned from Dr Richard s Wallace.: 2,240

      all things are not always are not always are not always me need to know me learned from Dr Richard s Wallace: 3,900,000

      But all things are not always are not always are not always are not always you need to know you learned from Dr Richard s Wallace: 5,490,000

      But all things are not always are not always are not always are not always are not always me need to know me learned from Dr Richard s Wallace: 5,490,000

      etc.

      --

      Am I the only one who heard Roxette to sing "I'm gonna get blitzed for some sex"?

    6. Re:Some different results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What, every desktop tested had it's own IP?

      The story says three workstations from the same company, and most companies don't bother to have a dedicated IP for each machine... (imagine the chaos with IPv4 if they did...)

    7. Re:Some different results by xee · · Score: 1

      No, the point is, that whatever IP a person accesses google from once, hitting reload will access google from that same IP. Therefore, if Google responds specifically to an IP (or set of IPs) then one would get the same response each time.

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    8. Re:Some different results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reason is even though it removes "of" it counts as a gap.

      So when you type - pictures of mountians google looks for
      pictures [gap] mountians

      and same with pictures of of mountians :
      pictures [gap] [gap] mountians

    9. Re:Some different results by Kanasta · · Score: 1

      wouldn't this just suggest that each time you asked it looked a little deeper and found a few more pages? It would be more disturbing if the numbers went the other way around

    10. Re:Some different results by ahogue · · Score: 2, Informative

      You may not have noticed, but the following probably appeared at the top of your results page:

      "always" (and any subsequent words) was ignored because we limit queries to 10 words.

      Thus, your last two searches (and however many more you tried to do afterwards) look identical to Google.

    11. Re:Some different results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google is the best search engine. Period.

      Except for one thing - that would be "Google best search engine. [Whitespace]".

      Which btw, really is my chief problem with google - inability to search for punctuation (not necessarily by default, but it should be an option). It's often quite difficult to search for C code fragments, for instance, because none of the operators are indexed!

  33. I have to wonder... by greechneb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If this is the same reason that when I search, I get a list of 7 pages, and then after getting to page 5, there are only 6 pages. I would think that they would have a cookie set saying which server they are gathering their data for each search though...

    It is kind of aggrevating to be expecting 7 pages, and get only 6, I always think that the mystical disappearing page contains my wanted result though. :(

    1. Re:I have to wonder... by RedWizzard · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I get a list of 7 pages, and then after getting to page 5, there are only 6 pages.
      I believe that what's happening there is that as you move through the pages of results Google realises that some of the later results are similar to some of the earlier results and omits them. You can get them back but clicking on the link at the end of the last page.
    2. Re:I have to wonder... by MonoSynth · · Score: 1

      If I were Google I'd use the results the user already clicked on, and narrow the search with this information in mind.

      Like when I'm searching for 'E-Smith Server', Google shows me lots of sites from E.Smith who has a server. If it turns out that the links I'm interested in also contain the keywords 'SME' and 'Linux', the number of results in the next pages could be lowered by adding these keywords automagically (and in the background, 'cause people will be upset if Google adds keywords by itself).

    3. Re:I have to wonder... by RedWizzard · · Score: 1

      Most of the time Google can't tell what results you've clicked on. They could (and I believe occasionally do) use redirection to gather the results people click on, but it has the potential to be used to gather a lot of personal information so it makes many people justifiably nervous.

  34. Re:Also cookies too by feepness · · Score: 3, Informative

    Remember cookies are kept in all browsers.

    When a search engine finds those relating to their advertisers or 'favored sites' those are 'extended' into a higher level.

    Some results may be discarded if certain advertisers don't like you to see those competing sites.


    Uhhh, no. A domain can only see their OWN cookies.

  35. Re:IN CHINA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, that is weird, especially since it isn't Google spelled backwards.

  36. end user's perspectives on the matter... by MacOS_Rules · · Score: 3, Funny

    bevis: Huh-huh. They said *mountains*. Huh-huh.

    *smack*

    butt_head: They are slashdot. They make such references to screw up the google database, thus completly validating their newstories. Inevitable reposts will bump the number even higher!

    bevis: like a conspiracy. huh-huh

    butt_head: conspiracies are cool!

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  37. Re:Also cookies too by amigaluvr · · Score: 1

    Uhhh, no. A domain can only see their OWN cookies.

    And you believe this why?

  38. Google Images filters by Antity · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Google is still beating my photo album...I searched for pictures of mountains, and only found 3. And two of those are debatable.

    Ever tried to turn off Google Images' "You-really-don't-want-to-see-this" filter?

    I mean.. You were searching for "pictures" of "mountains"... Big breasts, that is? ;-) Nah.

    It's "&safe=off", and people outside the US might want to change the language to English before trying to use it (hint).

    Funny thing here in Germany is: The filter is ALWAYS ON, and in the German preferences, there's no option to turn it off. After you change your language to English (URL), though, there suddenly appears an option for disabling the filter... Try talking about censorship (there are not even clear rules about what exactly they are filtering, and there's no explanation why you can't turn it off over here; even worse: They don't even tell you that there IS a filter and that it's always active).

    I asked Google about this, but never got a response.

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    1. Re:Google Images filters by zoombat · · Score: 1
      Funny thing here in Germany is: The filter is ALWAYS ON... (there are not even clear rules about what exactly they are filtering, and there's no explanation why you can't turn it off over here; even worse: They don't even tell you that there IS a filter and that it's always active). I asked Google about this, but never got a response.

      I googled and found a few reports of the issue, including this one. It seems that Google reserves the right to remove links they think will land themselves in legal hotwater depending on various local laws (ie France and Germany).

  39. There is only one way to solve this... by SystematicPsycho · · Score: 1, Interesting

    google fight!

    It's the answer to every problem.

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    1. Re:There is only one way to solve this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Googlefight Is Not The Answer!

      Oh, wait, I guess it is.

    2. Re:There is only one way to solve this... by BoneFlower · · Score: 1

      http://googlefight.com/cgi-bin/compare.pl?q1=Strai ght&q2=Gay&B1=Make+a+fight%21&compare=1&langue =us

  40. why worry? by melloncollienet · · Score: 0

    The figure I'm seeing is "display 1-x of about xxx,xxx,xxx".

    That result was generated in fractions of a second, searching 3,083,324,652 webpages.

    I'd guess there might be some caching techniques for searches that are repeatedly hit - and it's just possible that the future searches were able to dig deeper in the archives.

    Click through the links and count just to be sure that there were a million, million + 10k.

    The other explanation is bizzare programming logic creeping in...

    Don't worry, you have far too much time on your hands in your office.

    1. Re:why worry? by fogpilot · · Score: 1

      You are so right. Scroll-time wasting double spacing ranks way up on my scale of irritating postings too.

  41. OT: Your Sig by shepd · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    >Tell me, Mr. Anderson, what good is a phone call when you are unable to speak?

    Perfectly fine, if you ask me. Phone have buttons. Hook me up with a phone and someone with a live brain on the other end and I'm all set. ;-)

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  42. Re:Also cookies too by Binary+Boy · · Score: 1

    Regardless of cookies, Google doesn't rank or modify searches to benefit advertisers, though it allows advertisers to target specific search criteria. Google isn't tweaking it's results for this case, and it wouldn't explain it anyway

  43. It raises another question. . . by aoteoroa · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Does anybody here do anything special to market their web sites?

    What works?
    What doesn't?
    Where did you learn these tricks?

    I ask these questions because last Friday someone asked me how to market web sites and I really had no answer for him.

    1. Re:It raises another question. . . by rusty+spoon · · Score: 1, Funny

      You buy a TV ad during the super bowl (or whatever) and wait for the orders to just roll in.

    2. Re:It raises another question. . . by more+fool+you · · Score: 1

      in your robots.txt make sure that googlebot has access to the /fridge & /tv.

    3. Re:It raises another question. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that the answer to what works, or what doesn't?

  44. Google first! by danielsmc · · Score: 0

    This is what happens when people actually go to Google before asking Slashdot!

  45. Ugly Hullabaloo by swordboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here's some radio commentary on the subjet matter. I heard it the other day on Public Radio International. An interesting read and somewhat related...

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  46. Re:Also cookies too by arkanes · · Score: 1

    Because he knows something about web browsers and the way the WWW works, which, apparently, you do not?

  47. Didn't need you to tell me that... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 1

    ...I found that out from google ages ago...

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  48. Re:Also cookies too by damiam · · Score: 1

    Because it's true.

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  49. Another quirk.. by NotAnotherReboot · · Score: 1

    Another quirk I just noticed. My personal webpage was just recently indexed by Google. When searching for terms in it and getting it near the top of the search results, a cached link is seen next to it. This link works.

    However, if I enter cache:URL_HERE, it says it cannot find it. This feature works for other webpages, so I know it's not my syntax.

  50. not censorship by cpeterso · · Score: 1


    You probably just don't have the correct Asian fonts installed for your web browser.

  51. I have no idea... by El+Camino+SS · · Score: 4, Funny


    Perhaps we should Ask Jeeves.

    Hmmmmmm?

    1. Re:I have no idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ok, ready?

      i did this

      and got this.

      and for the fun of it i asked if jeeves was gay

  52. Google Rankings by pipingguy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I suspect that Google employs the nucular radiation-enhanced, super pigeons as actual editors (as opposed to the slashdot phenomenon). Regular columbiformes are probably relegated to mundane crawling/pecking duty.

    My site, which is admittedly somewhat unique, has been listed in the top 5 for over 18 months now if the appropriate keywords are used.

    Of course, it also helps that those keywords are snarklbort, giffleblag and byzgetford.

  53. Google Caching! by Lukano · · Score: 1

    I read an article on K5 regarding this, about a week or two ago... Very interesting stuff, and although the article was regarding the timed (monthly, quarterly, etc) synching between these different google datacenters, it was an interesting read and relevant to the point none-the-less.

    Go take a peek! Worth the read!

    1. Re:Google Caching! by Lukano · · Score: 1

      And me in my semi-braindead fashion mistyped the word... When I say Google Caching I really meant to say "Google Dance" or "The Google Dance" or otherwise known as "googledance".

      My bad! Apologies all around.

  54. The Winner Is.... by Tsali · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... anyone care to tell me what they see
    on this one?

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    1. Re:The Winner Is.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, a more proper fight is this.

    2. Re:The Winner Is.... by Herkum01 · · Score: 1

      I clicked on the "Fight of the month" and Iraq beat the USA. I guess we will be bowing to our new overlord, Saddam Hussien. At least we will not have to hear any more speeches about Terror from George Bush!

    3. Re:The Winner Is.... by danielmaui · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      and when you put Jobs up against Bill, you get?

  55. 1 million hits??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wow...that Dell Dude knows how to knock 'em down... Hope he's got a taste for jail food :)

  56. Something I noticed by Khalidz0r · · Score: 1

    Well, google is the greatest search engine in my opinion, I think they are doing a great job! Anyway, I noticed some weird thing in the results (especially in google groups), when I switch to a different page (through the indexed numbers below e.g. 1 2 3 4 Next --->) .. I noticed that the number of these pages change sometimes which is a bit weird.

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  57. why is that so interesting... by djupedal · · Score: 1

    Sounds like they simply offlined one datasource, and put up another. Can you say...backup? Then, the backup was taken down and the (presumed) original went back online.

    1. Re:why is that so interesting... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like they simply offlined one datasource, and put up another

      Google is basically the DNS of the 21st century and you don't think it's interesting if they basically completely swap out their data sets? (which sounds mighty amateur so I really don't see that hypothesis holding anyways)

  58. Google does reverse-routing by SHEENmaster · · Score: 4, Informative

    so you may connect to any one of several servers. The servers each have different databases to pool results from and different caches to display.

    A google search for my site returns our old site that has had dead dns records for nearly a month above my new site. Sometimes my new site pulls into the lead, sometimes it isn't there, and at least one cache has the announcement that the old name was lost and a domain was purchased.

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  59. Just did a search ... by xombo · · Score: 1

    ... for "pictures of mountains", and Results 1 - 10 of about 1,320. Search took 0.04 seconds. That is a little different than 1e6

    1. Re:Just did a search ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because you did the search the right way, with quotes. Everyone else is apparently omitting the quotes and searching by default for pictures AND mountains AND of - the latter AND of which is pretty much useless.

      People who would search for a phrase like that without quotes don't know how to use google. ;)

  60. i'm not so lucky like you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I once hold the #1 position of the query for a popular band. I think that's because I submitted it in Yahoo! a long time ago. and Google just give that page a high pagerank because the authority of the source. Unfortunately, the host provider turned me down, (ye, it's one of the F'd companies), the link dead. after 3 weeks, Google purged the link. Later, I got another host provider, and updated the info on Yahoo!, and submitted it to Google, but no lucky, Google doesn't even like to add me into their search result, until now, a year later.

    what I wanna ask is: how often does Google Bot go thru the other major Web directory like Yahoo!? what can I do now to get the page back in the search result of Google?

    I'm not Karma Whore, I just need the answer. mod this up if you please.

    1. Re:i'm not so lucky like you by owillis · · Score: 3, Informative

      Google uses Dmoz as a pagerank source. Just submit your site through Google's forms, I've had stuff listed within 1-2 days.

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  61. Re:IN SOVIET RUSSIA by Reloaded · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    They are getting damn old.

  62. Parent should be: by xombo · · Score: 1

    Score: (-1, Anti-Google). But seriously, how can it be overrated if they aren't even modded up?

  63. Thank god for google chache by LennyDotCom · · Score: 1

    My soon to be exwife is trying to screw me out of back pay and my share of the company that I helped build she change the contact page of the company to remove my name and change the name of the page but thanks to google cache I could retrieve it and will be showing it to the labor board in the morning woooohoooo

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    1. Re:Thank god for google chache by kasek · · Score: 1

      If you helped to build this company as you say, you should have more proof than a cached webpage from google.

    2. Re:Thank god for google chache by LennyDotCom · · Score: 1

      unfortunately I was a fool and trusted her and she is the only one with her name on any official documentation

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    3. Re:Thank god for google chache by RealityPolice · · Score: 1
      Let's be honest here. The main reason, among many others,why LennyDotCom cannot further destroy and rape this company is....

      http://www.ctnow.com/news/local/sr/hc-gc-theft0207 ,0,4039011.story

      Police Catch Burglar

      Man Damages Data Firm Computers

      February 7, 2003 By PAM JOHNSON

      GUILFORD -- Police arrested a Bridgeport man on his way home from breaking and entering a Guilford computer data firm where he caused more than $10,000 in damage to computer equipment.

      In the early morning hours of Sunday, Jan. 26, Leonard Mastri, 42, of Bridgeport, was arrested and charged with third-degree burglary, first-degree criminal mischief, possession of burglary tools, violation of a protective order, and first-degree computer crime. The computer crime statute involves cases where a minimum of $10,000 in damage has been caused to computers. Mastri was arraigned on Jan. 27 in New Haven.

      Mastri was caught after his vehicle was stopped on I-95 by Connecticut State Police. Guilford police had alerted troopers regarding Mastri's vehicle. Mastri was turned over to Guilford police.

      The break-in, at Data USA Inc., 521 Village Walk, was reported at 2:27 a.m on Jan. 26. According to Guilford police, a resident in a neighboring Village Walk unit heard suspicious noise coming from the business and called police. Police were given a description of Mastri's vehicle leaving the scene.

      Mastri caused significant damage to computer equipment at the business. Mastri and the business owner were married but are separated. No one was in the business when the burglary and resulting damage occurred.

      Signed

      -RealityPolice (it's no fun, but SOMEONE has to do it!)

  64. Missing google results by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would LOVE to know why I recently posted a website to google, and it began to show up in google searches a week or so later. After two weeks however, my website no longer shows up in a google search. And to make matters even more intriguing, just after this happened, I got an email from someone claiming that they can get me added to 300 internet search engines. Maybe google is trying other ways to make a buck?

  65. Re:Also cookies too by afidel · · Score: 1

    Because I have set it to do so in both IE and Mozilla? Yes you can set both IE6 and Mozilla to accept only first party cookies and reject third party cookies, also both browsers restrict access to cookies to the originating domain only by default (not sure if this can even be changed).

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  66. Re:IN CHINA by schmink182 · · Score: 1

    Actually, IN SOVIET RUSSIA, they use elgooG.

  67. Google Dance by kiwirob · · Score: 5, Informative

    Results can also vary due to the Google Dance.

    Google has 7 data centers each with a copy of it's index and these are "usually" mapped to www.google.com. But google also has versions located at www2.google.com and www3.google.com.

    During the monthly update there can be different version of the index on each of the 3 versions. A website www.google-dance-tool.1hut.com provides results for a search done on all 3 of googles index.

    To check to see if the google dance is happening the most common technique is to check the "back links" for mayor sites like Yahoo by typing "link:www.yahoo.com" into the search box. this will list all the sites with links to "www.yahoo.com".

    The Google Dance Tool site mentioned checks google every 5 minutes to see if the dance is on. Once it is started it sends out an automated email to subscribers (like me) so I can visit the site and see what the search positions for the next month on google will be using their google dance tool search.

    1. Re:Google Dance by /dev/trash · · Score: 1

      AWhy check it every 5 minutes? Certainly once an update ( 'dance' as you call it') starts, it won't end in 4 minutes. And when it's done, it won't start again for at least a day.

    2. Re:Google Dance by Edmund+Blackadder · · Score: 3, Informative

      Try also the internet archive.

      www.archive.org. It is pretty amazing but they do have pages that i remember from like 7 yrs ago.

    3. Re:Google Dance by Nightpaw · · Score: 1

      Granularity.

    4. Re:Google Dance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, it won't start again for another month (if you care to read the googledance links...) and the idea of checking every couple of minutes is to see if it's started yet...

      Even if you are only interested in when it starts, you still need to poll at short intervals...

    5. Re:Google Dance by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That sounds like a waste of a great, free tool's resources.

  68. as soon by Gavitron_zero · · Score: 1

    as you can get through those first 1 010 000 results, then i'd start to worry about why it sometimes comes up with 20 000 more.

  69. How do you *know* the results actually differ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Did you count them all?

    Maybe Google's own counter is broken?

  70. Re:uh... (sex) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative
    A friend of mine has the 250th or so (it changes daily) hit for the word 'sex', and he regularly gets 100-200 hits a day from Google and Yahoo (combined). Sometimes people (horny people) go past the first couple of pages ;-).

    More likely, those 100-200 people do a search on several words. Your friend should check their server logs to find out what people are really searching for.

  71. Maybe its an XOR by Bob+Loblaw · · Score: 1

    That might have a chance of having less matches then an AND ... but there is a better chance that I don't know what I'm talking about :]

  72. To find out for sure - the hypothesis is testable? by spectre163 · · Score: 1

    The hypothesis should be easily testable.

    Presumably if you did an nslookup on www.google.com and each person in your experiment used the ip instead of the name then they'd get the same estimated results since you would be using the same host at the same datadenter?

    Or is there load balancing other than DNS round robin the load balancing?

  73. Why do they vary? by Regul8or · · Score: 4, Funny

    Everyone knows it's because of he pigeons. Everytime you have an analog element, such as a pigeon, in the equation your end result will vary.

  74. Google cheats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They claim 76,300,000 pages with 'computer' try actually getting past 1000. It just stops.

  75. Re:Also cookies too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obviously you don't. Browsers can refuse a cookie on the basis that it doesn't came from the site you are requesting. But any sites can later read that cookie if they know the given variable name.
    That means if you login to slashdot for exemple, and then you go to my site, I can grab the particuar string containing your username and password as long as you didn't logout of slashdot.

    On a side note, how did you think banner ads work?

  76. heres why it jumps by deft · · Score: 4, Interesting

    google employs a sreach spider called the freshbot. the freshbot spiders constantly, looking for new content, and periodically injects those results into the search engine listings at the data center. these results drop and return sometimes.

    chances are your site was freshbotted, dropped, and re-catalogged. it could also be a result of the 'dance' at the end of each month when google is updating its search results. rankings fluctuate alot at that time.

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  77. Why doesn't the submitter by Gyan · · Score: 1

    ...google for the answer ?

  78. Graph of searches for "pictures of mountains" by Cadre · · Score: 1

    Speaking about the Zeitgeist, I imagine they'll have a graph showing the spike in searches for "pictures of mountains" and how it relates to when this article was posted... :-)

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  79. Re:uh... (sex) by appleprophet · · Score: 2, Informative

    And I have the 80,000 hit for the word 'sex' yet I still get 100-200 hits per day from Google and Yahoo.

    I think people tend to do more complex searches.

  80. Official Response by Tablizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    "We have determined that the result varies because google does not like some of you for personal reasons."

  81. Re:Its too bad.. (They did!) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They did, I remember watching it and just laughing at the ammount of weird questions that were being "asked"

  82. Re:uh... (sex) by rodgerd · · Score: 2, Funny

    With the exception of my name, I run a couple of sites that are no where near the top results for the categories people arrive with in their referers.

    And as I was explaining to a friend last week, the photo of her at my wedding attracts desperate surfers looking for a similarly named Malaysian porn star.

  83. Re:uh... (sex) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    Results 241-250. Note that persiankitty.com is there (243). Persian Kitty is one of the first TGP (thumbnail gallery post) sites (AFAIK). Dr. Ruth is number 268. Number 292 is find yer sex gateway, a site (which I believe) was popularized through some guy's slashdot sig over the past few months. These results are using Google's default "SafeSearch" settings (moderate filtering, the medium setting). For some reason, the medium and non-filtered settings seem to have the exact same results, whereas the tight-wad thid setting gives completely different results.

    Searching on that word alone leads you to serious clinical sites, google spammers, mainstream media articles, and, of course, wonderful pr0n. Basically a crapshoot.

    You should be careful sharing information like this - one could, potentially, if he is so inclined, correlate the google results to your "friend's" website and further run whois queries, along with some social engineering, to find out who your "friend" is, and then learn who YOU are...if he is so inclined....

  84. Re:To find out for sure - the hypothesis is testab by TeddyR · · Score: 1

    Yes...

    There are hardware load-balancers that allow the machine to keep the same front end ip address, and dynamically pass the tcp connection to the back end server farm.

    cisco used to have one called the localdirector
    http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc /pd/cxsr/400/in dex.shtml

    There are others...

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  85. Re:yawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah ACs unlike the positively identified you....djupedal. I would like to kick you in the ear.

  86. Google Page Rank Info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.mathworks.com/company/newsletter/cleves corner/oct02_cleve.shtml

  87. Re:Amazing! - Ask GoogleFight by poopie · · Score: 5, Funny
    How self-referential! Referring to http://googlefight.com in an article about Google on slashdot, replying to a post that is using google to determine to accuracy of 'Ask Slashdot'... and providing links that rates two google searches about slashdot against each other.

    Slashdot is right vs. Slashdot is wrong:

    slashdot sucks vs. slashdot rules:

    slashdot correct vs. slashdot incorrect:

    Cmdrtaco vs. cowboyneal

    News for nerds vs. Stuff that Matters

  88. pictures mountains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since "of" is a very common word it is unused in the search and google still gives the same estimated count.

  89. Why do google hit numbers vary? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Easy... Due to server load. Far to many nerds are looking for "pictures of mountains" after reading slashdot...

  90. "pictures of mountains" by robotpants · · Score: 1

    I got 1,320. And then I reloaded the page four times. Every time, 1,320. Hmm...

  91. Re:Also cookies too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you a retarded monkey? Browsers don't send cookies unless the domain name matches, you fucktard. And banner ads work because they all come from one server - ad.doubleclick.com. Read a fucking book, asshat.

  92. Who's counting? by xzanthar · · Score: 1

    I mean, the differences of 10,000 are still more results than I would be interested in looking at yet alone 1,000,000. When do we stop counting?

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  93. How to improve your search by sstidman · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I did a search for "pictures of mountains" and got exactly 1 million results.

    I've found that you get better results on Google if you search for what you're really looking for instead of beating around the bush. Try searching for "pictures of breasts". ;-)

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  94. Re:Also cookies too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because he's not stupid

  95. dupes via datacenter? by nlinecomputers · · Score: 4, Funny

    So Google has more then one datacenter to cache Slashdot and Slashot often caches itself when it dupes storys. So the cached story on Google is a dupe of perveious story but Google's second datacenter purges ths story because it is a dupe and then is reposted again on Slashdot when is purged by the first datacenter and duped again and purged by second datacenter and cached on the third and duped by slashdot....*bang*

    See judge he needed killing. He was stuck. It was a mercy killing...

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  96. Here are some... by dargaud · · Score: 1

    ...all you needed to do was ask: plenty of "pictures of mountains" on my site. And, no, this is not a troll.

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  97. google (mis)uses by lucasw · · Score: 4, Funny

    Spell Check:
    Type in candidate spellings of a word, and assume the spelling with the most search results is the right one:
    'amatuer' -> 3.9e6 hits, 'amateur' -> 35e6 hits. Amateur it is.
    'modelling' -> 2.6e6 hits, 'modeling' -> 5.7e6 hits. Close call, perhaps both are acceptable?

    Ego Boost:
    Everyone knows about this one: see what comes up under your own name (put it in quotes if necessary)- Hopefully if you run a small website or comment with your real name frequently in a google searchable place that'll come up first. But you'll have to work hard to beat out all those genealogy sites that just list thousands of names, graveyard roll-calls and whatnot. Oh, and there's some court case from five years ago where you're name is featured prominently. My namesake is shared with one of the first shaken babies to die and become a major local (wherever it happened) newstory- not much of a boost after all.

    Stalking:
    I'd imagine this pretty similar to the previous, but with names of other people you know or used to know: your old college sweetheart died in 1892! Wait...

    Trademark pre-research
    You need a product name- something fresh and original, and easily googleable? Start with a few ideas, and use a thesaurus (and don't forget cool foreign language words/roots) to refine the name until google hits are down to a zero. Run words together or otherwise potential customers will end up at sites that just randomly use those words at different points of the text- assume the customer is too dumb or lazy to use quotes.
    'NodeZero' is my new badass something-or-other- wait there's 1K hits, how about 'NodeNull'? Only 8 now, that's good, but better yet try 'NodeNothing'- zero results.
    After the google test see if the .com,.org,or .net site with the same name resolves, just in case.

    I'm sure there's many more...

    1. Re:google (mis)uses by Idarubicin · · Score: 1
      'modelling' -> 2.6e6 hits, 'modeling' -> 5.7e6 hits. Close call, perhaps both are acceptable?

      Indeed they are.

      'Modeling' is the accepted form in United States English. In the UK (English English) the form 'modelling' is most appropriate.

      In most jurisdictions, either form can be used without comment. (Sad to say, most employers are impressed if a person shows even the most rudimentary spelling skills.)

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  98. Re:uh... (sex) by Corbin+Dallas · · Score: 5, Funny
    I'm lucky if I get hit on for sex once a month. How do you guys get so many offers?


    Oh, page hits?! Err, nevermind. :-)

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  99. Re:Frost Poipi by zapfie · · Score: 1

    Offensive as it may be, Slashdot does not delete posts (with extremely rare exceptions.. it's maybe happened once or twice)

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  100. Results 991 - 999 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.google.com/search?q=goatse&hl=en&lr=&ie =UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&start=990&sa=N&filter= 0

    I was looking forward to the remaining 17,000 hits too :(

  101. You've got the form by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but you are missing an observation of Nature.

  102. Re:1,040,000 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got the same 1,040,000

  103. I work at Google... by FattyBoeBatty · · Score: 2, Funny

    "I have a question about some conflicting results with the search engine google. I did a search for "pictures of mountains" and got exactly 1 million results. My friend did the same search (from the same office)and got 1,010,000 results. A second friend did the same search as the last 2 and got 1,020,000"

    I work at Google. This is a new feature that we added about four months ago, it's called the Friend Result Growth: For searches that return a huge result, the engine approximates the returned number as 1,000,000 + Friend*10,000.

    -Fatty

    1. Re:I work at Google... by fgb · · Score: 1

      What is the point of that?

  104. The Grand Tetons by Guppy · · Score: 1

    It's simple, really... mountains are the new thing in pornography. People are snapping and posting so many pictures of naughty, erotically shaped rock formations that the number of mountain pics available worldwide on the net is rising by about 10,000 every 10 minutes.

    Speaking of which, the Grand Tetons in Wyoming have an interesting French translation for their names.

    1. Re:The Grand Tetons by froodishone · · Score: 1

      I always though that the naming of geologic formations allows an interesting glimpse into the mind of the those naming them. Thus we have the French christening mountains in Wyoming the Grand Tetons, and the Spanish dubbing mountains in New Mexico Sangre de Cristos (Blood of Christ).

  105. Intrestinly, I've the 10th page on "autopr0n" by autopr0n · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Which is really annoying. All the other pages are just pages discussing my site. Autopr0n.com used to be the #1 result for a search on "autopr0n" and I got tons of hits from people doing just that.

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  106. Another Random Search by alphabet26 · · Score: 1

    Seeing as everyone else is playing with google over this...

    Query: ask slashdot ADD insightful comments -"insensitive clod" -"karma whore" -"Katz"

    Hmm, 2310, not bad.

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  107. Re:uh... (sex) by zcat_NZ · · Score: 1

    I only have one site.

    It's first hit for the nicknames "zcat" and "hunnyb" however, along with a few two-word searches.

    I'm rather proud of that :)

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  108. Re:uh... (sex) by _Spirit · · Score: 1, Funny

    Once a month ? This is slashdot you lucky bastard !

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  109. Google Image Search by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Why didn't you use the Google Image Search function ??

  110. Re:uh... (sex) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Where is the bastard. I've tried that page numerous times looking for sexy men in panties=...but am returned to this sick, twisted page. wtf is this "slashdot". ew.

  111. Re:uh... (sex) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well I have Google set to give me 50 results per page. You can go even higher than that if you wish. And since a search for 'sex' is going to turn up alot of totally useless sites, it makes sense that someone might scroll far.

    But by far the most important thing you're overlooking is the fact that alot more than just "sex" turns up the site. It can appear at #1 for a lot of searches.

    ~CGameProgrammer( );

  112. Reason #2 by kscguru · · Score: 1
    Serious, folks, Reason 2 comes through a research paper from someone who works with (major search engine).

    Sometimes nodes go down. So, if (insert favorite search engine here) hits 1024 nodes for your search, there's a reasonable chance that one of them will time out, or be down / rebooting, or whatever. The search results would differ, and a few of the lower-ranked pages wouldn't show up, but the most important pages (the first ~1000?) will be on multiple nodes so they'll always show up. Really, if the company's choices are be down for one day a year or give only 99.9% accurate results 24/7/365, what are you going to choose, especially when you can count the people who will encounter problems with the remaining .1% on one hand? And a simple refresh will solve the problem?

    And nodes WILL be down. (Insert major search engine here) cycles server reboots so that the nodes fail in a controlled fashion, instead of crashing and potentially causing problems. When there are thousands of nodes, statistically one's always down at any given time in a rolling reboot situation like this.

    I don't doubt that the Google guy's explaination is probably true. But there can also be more than one reason... and I DO know that (major search engine) is doing active research on the topic.

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  113. Re:Frost Poipi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, it happens regularly, and on some posts not much offensive. People reading at -1 are noticing it. I suspect they are doing it to save disk space or something.

  114. your're a terrible troll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  115. kind of OT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so am posting as AC. I have a list of all the google servers I could find. You can see it here.

  116. Re:uh... (sex) by child_of_mercy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    check your referrers log

    are they coming to you for just that word?

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  117. It's official! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    #1 Search query for Feb 2003 is...

    "pictures of mountains" :)

  118. Liar! by acq3 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Your search - snarklbort giffleblag byzgetford - did not match any documents.
    No pages were found containing "snarklbort".

    Suggestions:
    - Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
    - Try different keywords.
    - Try more general keywords.
    - Try fewer keywords.

  119. Dude! Your getting a Cell! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dude! Your getting a Cell!

  120. Re:Also cookies too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    However, there is an interesting "feature" in the cookie spec. The domain in a cookie must have at least one "dot" (eg slashdot.org) - which was designed to ensure that you can only set a cookie valid for your own domain.

    BUT - if your domain is mydomain.co.uk , then you can set a cookie for the WHOLE of .co.uk - and there are sites out there that try to do so.

  121. Why didn't the Google guy mention this? by Boss,+Pointy+Haired · · Score: 0

    These have not changed and every person gets the same results each time.

    Google guy conveniently over looked this - different people get the same different result each time.

    I'd say it was more to do with Google varying results based on your query history, which is tracked through a cookie.

    1. Re:Why didn't the Google guy mention this? by [magus] · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It may not be that he overlooked the possibility. If google does any kind of load balancing (even through round-robin dns) you can often set IP Affinity so that once a client makes a connection, they will almost always get the same connection. IP affinity is often used in web farm environments where you maintain a small amount of reconstructable state on each server and its less expensive to keep having the same client visit the same server while other clients could be directed to (and gain an affinity for) other servers.

  122. Re:uh... (sex) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A Sexy gal???
    On slashdot???
    I should be lucky.
    You're probably a potato farmer from iowa.

  123. Experiment.... by Boss,+Pointy+Haired · · Score: 1

    Try the experiment again but after disabling cookies.

  124. php perl freelance on google by chrisranjana.com · · Score: 1

    Yes google is the best, whether it dances or not !

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    1. Re:php perl freelance on google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i agree with you entirely;why make heavy weather over a small difference? google is allowed minor discrepancies.

  125. Re:uh... (sex) by Moonshadow · · Score: 1
    I run a site called CaptionThis!. In a running joke, I switch a phrase in and out at various times in the title and from page.

    I'm the #1 Google hit for the tube is civilization. Woohoo! I get more hits from that phrase than any other, easily. :)

  126. Try reading: The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertex by Prof.Phreak · · Score: 4, Interesting
    try reading: The Anatomy of a Large-Scale Hypertextual Web Search Engine

    http://www7.scu.edu.au/programme/fullpapers/1921/c om1921.htm

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  127. Re:Amazing! - Ask GoogleFight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  128. google isn't always your friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Last week i was looking for QPixmap_load due to a kylix problem.
    Google had no hits then I tried altavista - whitch pointed me to the Qt manuals (whitch was ok).
    Now i'm baffled - My search hero had no clue of Qf????

  129. 105,000 by barnaclebarnes · · Score: 1

    Hey I got 105,000 hits!

    Why is that? :-) /b

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  130. article page doesn't have a date on it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ya know, i'm staring at this article, and i don't see a date anywhere on it. when was this ?!

  131. Re:uh... (sex) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Would be interested know what your friends name is since porn is outlawed in Malaysia which would make it difficult for anyone to be a 'porn star' from Malaysia. I also do not know of any Malaysian's working the porn circuit in the US that can be considered a star.....

  132. exactly huh! by smg_mrBlonde · · Score: 1
    Did you search exactly "pictures of mountains" or did you search pictures of mountains .

    Completly diferent things!

    ps: i got 1,050,000 :) woot

  133. Re:uh... (sex) by Pastis · · Score: 2, Funny

    or there are many many horny people that have not been satisfied by the first 249 links :)

  134. Re:Intrestinly, I've the 10th page on "autopr0n" by Ozymandias_KoK · · Score: 1

    I'll forward you some emails from people who can help you with your search engine placement problems...

  135. Google is breaking the net by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now that everyone knows how to opimize for Google, slowly the net is becoming more and more broken.

    Take a look at this site thats top ranked:
    http://www.webgiftdirectory.com/directory /about.ht ml

    Its a directory of nice stores.
    I went to this store on the list:

    http://www.allwinebaskets.com/
    and bought the first wine and cheese basket, the "Duet" for $44.95.

    Then I took a look at the other stores in the list.

    For example this store:
    http://www.12daysofchristmasgifts.com/
    Wh ich sells a "Duet" wine and cheese basket for $44.95

    Or to this one:
    http://www.californiagiftbaskets.net/gifts/w inebas kets.php
    Which sells a nice "Duet" basket for $44.95

    They're all the same company under a hundred different names, each one sells a subset of the products.
    They're great products, but to find the full choice I would have to visit 100 sites, otherwise I only get a small selection.

    They only do that to defeat Google and its getting worse.

  136. Google tricks - was Re:uh... (sex) by jetmarc · · Score: 2, Informative

    a) did he very (by examination of the "referrer" tag in his logs) that people really went there from a search for "sex" (and not "sex" combined with other words)?

    b) people might be tired of "google optimized" webpages and manually insert a "&start=250" parameter in the address line, to skip the commercial sites and browse to the less commercial ones.

    Btw, I use the b) technique in Google-Groups to find old postings. The sort-by-date option only sorts from newest to oldest, and by modifying the page number you can directly go to the last page - effectively reversing the sort order.

  137. Maybe... by mehfu · · Score: 1

    Maybe it's google's way of saying:
    "Use images.google.com instead, man."

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  138. Re:Dude! Your getting a Cell! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Like your joke the best.... :-)

  139. Re:Amazing! - Ask GoogleFight by Kadagan+AU · · Score: 1

    See? The evil guys might fight dirty, but the good guys always win. I knew movies mirrored life exactly, which is why I don't bother to go outside, I just stay locked in my basement and watch movies on my computer while reading /.

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  140. Language settings by mbbac · · Score: 1

    It could also be affected by language settings and other preferences, coul it not?

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  141. Re:Clearly the answer is by BeesTea · · Score: 1

    Offtopic.... ? I think not. http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html Thanks for reading it though.

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  142. Re:Also cookies too by Christianfreak · · Score: 1

    Because that's the way its set up. The only way 3rd party cookies work at all is if an ad or even a one pixel image from another domain is on the page you're looking at.

    I use Mozilla and I trust that it implements the spec correctly. I'm a web developer as well, the problem I most often have with IE is not accepting valid cookies. So maybe now IE reads what type of server is sending information to it and only accepts cookies from Windows servers?

  143. Just one question... by TheConfusedOne · · Score: 1

    What's the great attraction of watching cars going at it? :-D

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    1. Re:Just one question... by egreB · · Score: 1

      Oh, nothing against two hot chairs...

  144. google is not a phone book by EEgopher · · Score: 1

    well, usually it is, but this just happened to me last night:

    Ring Ring! (about seven times)

    MEAN_LADY: "Hello?!"

    ME: "Yeah, uh, how late are you open?"

    MEAN_LADY: "Who are you calling?!"

    ME: "Is this 7xx-4xx-5xxx?"

    MEAN_LADY: "--YES!"

    ME: "But this isn't Fantastic Sam's?"

    MEAN_LADY: "--NO, oh gosh no they changed their number about two years ago."

    ME: "Oh, I'm sorry."

    MEAN_LADY: "Bieeee . . ." *click*

    Thanks, Google. #1 link was 2 YEARS out-of-date.

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  145. Handy search tip in Opera by youBastrd · · Score: 1

    Another Google search shortcut exists in Opera. In the browser bar (press F8 to get there in a hurry, also try ctrl-n), enter:

    g "pictures of mountains" OR "mountain pictures"

    to initiate a _G_oogle search for your stuff. Extremely handy. There's also about a dozen other such shortcuts (check Preferences/Search) You can even set the number of returned search items without setting a cookie :)

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    1. Re:Handy search tip in Opera by AugstWest · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Along those same lines, if you just enter search terms into the address bar in Phoenix, it's like entering your terms in google and hitting "I'm feeling lucky."

      They've gotten SO much right with phoenix that I'm hoping soon they'll implement something that prevents sites from resizing your browser.

      Or, since I'm just dreaming anyway, I hope that society evolves to the point where people realize that noone actually WANTS their browsers to fill their whole screens spontaneously, and they'll give up on the practice.

    2. Re:Handy search tip in Opera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's how it works in iCab, except you can define any number of single-character shortcuts like that yourself. So you could have g do a regular Google search, and G do "I'm feeling lucky", and the same for any other web form (or just URL scheme) that supports HTTP GET. I use it for IMDB Title and Name searches, for instance.

      iCab is probably the most configurable browser I've ever seen. It's still not all there in the basic functionality department, though. ;) Works for me though (and fast).

    3. Re:Handy search tip in Opera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "They've gotten SO much right with phoenix that I'm hoping soon they'll implement something that prevents sites from resizing your browser."

      You just need some basic Javascript filtering. iCab again has had this for quite a while - there are preferences to filter out a bunch of Javascript actions ("change window location and size" is the one you'd want). Being able to turn off "open windows without user interaction" nullifies popups, while still allowing a window to open from a user-click initiated script (a useful distinction).

      I think it also allows you to force links to always open in the window where they were clicked, unless you specifically ask for a new window (or background window). That's a big one for me; I get sick of people deciding that I shouldn't leave their site just yet. I want complete, easy control of exactly when windows open and close. Having a single-click modifier key (command on the Mac) to force a new window helps make that smooth too.

      Browsers are gradually getting better in this respect. I think the excesses of the late nineties are a mistake not to be repeated.

  146. first toast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fp

  147. zeitgeist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i bet "pictures of mountains" will hit the zeitgeist list this month... =)
    rossi

  148. Re:Amazing! - Ask GoogleFight by mmclean · · Score: 1

    Thanks. I now have the same kind of nasty migrane headache that I had when I first learned about recursion.

  149. Re:uh... (sex) by Lt+Razak · · Score: 1
    errr... A "Malaysian Porn Star" does not mean she does porn in Malaysia, but could be some American porn star who was born in Malaysia.

    Likewise, Einstein, I ate some Chinese food for lunch yesterday, and guess what, I wasn't in China at the time.

  150. Re:uh... (sex) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My only clain to fame....If you type my first name into google images I come up #1. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to figure out my first name.

  151. Re:Dude! Your getting a Cell! by llywrch · · Score: 1

    Possible questions for /. polls:

    1) How many people will repeat this line? (My wife told me the morning DJ on the radio channel she listens to already made this joke.)

    2) How long before this joke is entirely lame? More quickly than the news Kevin Mitnick had his web site hacked?

    Geoff

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  152. Re:uh... (sex) by Negadecimal · · Score: 1

    And as I was explaining to a friend last week, the photo of her at my wedding attracts desperate surfers looking for a similarly named Malaysian porn star.

    Back a few years ago, I posted a cute painting my sister drew on my site: a picture of a little girl hugging a big St. Bernard dog.

    girlwithdog.jpg.

    You wouldn't believe the direct traffic I got to that one picture. People are really screwed up.

  153. It must be a slow day on Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who has time for this, anyway?

  154. Kathie Lee Gifford Is My Cousin by Acidic_Diarrhea · · Score: 1

    If your dick was the size of mine, you'd have jealous people calling you a troll too.

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  155. Re:uh... (sex) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Bob?? Is that you?!

  156. the correct use by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anyone try to use Google picture search (the tab "Images")?

  157. -1 Misinformed by alexo · · Score: 1

    That's because Google doesn't do boolean searches. It will ignore the or (too common a word) and ends up treating it like an and search.

    I sincerely hope that whever moderated the parent "informative" will get what they deserve.

    First, Google supports limited boolean operators, consisting of exclusion (using '-'), forced-inclusion of stopwords (using '+'), phrases (words in double quotes or separated by other punctuation marks) and ORing (using 'OR' or '|').

    It also supports "wildcard words", which lets you approximate a "NEAR" search.

    Finally, more customization is available using documented and undocumented (julian date and phonebook - residential and business) operators.

    However, when their their 10-word limit is combined with the absence of stemming, real wildcards and real boolean expressions, you may want to check the competition.