I agree with you. I don't understand why so many other posters think this is a robbery.
Shouldn't a crime require intent? If not, people should be charged with theft whenever they move a chair at a restaurant. This is property damage/vandalism. Nothing to see here, move along...
"I have free long distance at home, but that doesn't mean I can run a long distance dialup connection 24/7."
Huh? I think you are confused about what free long distance means. Netflix also has unlimited online movie watching, which they don't throttle. You said, "Netflix got sued for it too, so all they had to do was disclose the fact that they might throttle." That's exactly what's supposed to happen and exactly what AT&T failed to do.
Exactly. "We all know that it’s BS too." Fuck that guy.
What's the difference between me downloading a movie or going over to a friend's house to watch his copy? Either way, I wasn't going to pay $14.95 for it. I've never bought a movie. And the few times I go to the movie theater it's the dollar theater, or $1.20 redbox. If I could watch any VCD quality movie I wanted for $1, I would pay it, because that's what it's worth to me. And I do, when possible. I pay for netflix.
Point is, watching a movie is not a crime. Neither lending a book, nor humming a tune. Civil disobedience I say! You can pry my eyes and ears from my cold dead hands.
If Benjamin didn't get it backwards the convention would be that electrons hold a positive charge. Ground would be the positive terminal. Adding electronic would increase an object's charge (and mass). Electronic devices would be seen as things that "used up" electrons. It would all make more sense.
I feel for ya about the sock thing, buddy. I don't think normal people freak out over socks or dirty dishes. She wouldn't happen to be a little bit Aspie, would she?
I think that you are missing the point of the OP. It also seems that you erroneously believe that "displaying" is different than "downloading". However, things you view on the Internet are downloaded to your computer's harddrive, and also copied into RAM. So, if you were to view a photo that I had copyrighted, simply by visiting a website, you have already committed two instances of copyright violation.
I believe the OP's point was that the idea of downloading being a copyright violation is untenable because one cannot determine before the fact, that a particular website will not contain copyrighted material.
@OP, to argue your point. Copyright law prohibits unauthorized reproduction of copyrighted works. The "Four Factor" test for fair use doesn't mention intent. Ignorance is not a defense, etc.. So, as I hereby copyright this entire post, all rights reserved 2012. You are all in violation, and you may consider this a lawful DMCA takedown notice that you must remove this post from your browser cache, RAM and whiteout the offending reproduction on your screen.
My neighbor, whose wireless I steal (TimeWarner Cable) had all his HTTP requests redirected to a copyright notice one day... or something like that. He had to click a checkbox that said, "I am aware of the copyright infringement."
The page he was directed to said,
1. Please see the following list of infringing material.
2. For any questions, call this number and reference the following reference number.
However, there was no list of infringing material, and there was no reference number.
The scanner at my airport spins around you in 360 degrees. Also, it doesn't show any image to the personnel watching the screen right there. Just a pass/fail I suppose.
Good to know. So that's why in UK based movies people are always wandering into people's homes and out the fire escape. I'll be sure not to punch anyone next time I do that.
"in the UK if you're caught trespassing - assuming you haven't done anything else 'criminal' - then the first redresss of the property owner is to ask you to leave. As long as you comply with that request, there is no crime."
In my state in the USA, if you circumvent some barrier, like a fence or door, it is a crime. From my state's statues (laws) on Trespass:
Violation (not a crime, no jail time): The simple offense is defined in terms of entering or remaining on premises with knowledge of this fact ("...the person knowingly enters or remains unlawfully in or upon premises"). [..] knowledge that the actor's presence on the premises is not licensed, invited, or privileged. Simple trespass is a violation.
Misdemeanor (max 1 year jail time): The most serious aggravation occurs when the trespass is to a dwelling [...](criminal trespass in the first degree), makes this offense a misdemeanor.
Petty Misdemeanor (up to 30 days in jail): A second, less serious aggravation, occurs when the premises are enclosed or fenced. [...] (criminal trespass in the second degree), this kind of trespass is made a petty misdemeanor.
The laws vary by state. Are you saying that in the UK you can hop a fence and it's not a crime? In my state, you cannot.
haha, what are you smoking? What does liberal mean to you? Do you think there are some elite war mongers somewhere that are profiting from war but also support social welfare and personal freedom such as abortion and drug use?
I think you mean the TB skin test. Not a vaccination.
TB is bacterial, not viral, right? That's why everyone is complaining that there are antibiotic resistant strains of TB. Vaccinations work on viral infections, antibiotics on bacterial infections.
So, don't let your kid exchange bodily fluid with a TB active person thinking they are immune, ok?
I bought a Visio TV and there was too much static. One time a ghost appeared on the screen and then there was an earthquake. Then my sister got sucked through a portal to another dimension and my aunt Tangina had to come save her. Would not buy again.
In other words you think people of certain races shouldn't be able to walk around freely without being interrogated by the police.
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Hi,
I've always wondered about the meeting people in Heaven thing. Could you explain to me your personal view?
When you see an elderly relative in Heaven, are they still old, like shortly before they died? Or are they 25 years old, 35?
For infants, do they still look like infants and communicate like infants? Or do they speak and understand English? If so, what other social knowledge do they possess.... like will the understand pop-culture references?
Once I bought a while 1.5lb tray of cheap chicken livers... the ones in the white styrofoam. I made and ate two delicious gourmet fried chicken liver sandwiches.
The liver's where coated in flour, egg, seasoned breadcrumbs, and lightly deep friend. Put them on 7-grain bread, with thick smoked bacon, cabbage and horseradish aoli. Delicious!
I forget exactly what happened. It was miserable. Like a niacin overdose. Flushed, hot, painful skin... it felt like I got beat up by an MMA fighter.
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I agree with you. I don't understand why so many other posters think this is a robbery.
Shouldn't a crime require intent? If not, people should be charged with theft whenever they move a chair at a restaurant. This is property damage/vandalism. Nothing to see here, move along...
Brussel sprouts and cabbage cross-pollinate but you don't put Brussel sprouts on your fish tacos, do ya?
"I have free long distance at home, but that doesn't mean I can run a long distance dialup connection 24/7."
Huh? I think you are confused about what free long distance means. Netflix also has unlimited online movie watching, which they don't throttle. You said, "Netflix got sued for it too, so all they had to do was disclose the fact that they might throttle." That's exactly what's supposed to happen and exactly what AT&T failed to do.
My IP address is copyrighted. Prepare to be hit with thousands of DMCA notices, my friend.
Exactly. "We all know that it’s BS too." Fuck that guy.
What's the difference between me downloading a movie or going over to a friend's house to watch his copy? Either way, I wasn't going to pay $14.95 for it. I've never bought a movie. And the few times I go to the movie theater it's the dollar theater, or $1.20 redbox. If I could watch any VCD quality movie I wanted for $1, I would pay it, because that's what it's worth to me. And I do, when possible. I pay for netflix.
Point is, watching a movie is not a crime. Neither lending a book, nor humming a tune. Civil disobedience I say! You can pry my eyes and ears from my cold dead hands.
There's a much higher quality video here.
Awesome idea. I get thoughts like that every time I get something stolen.
It would feel so great to bust some piece of shit thief.
If Benjamin didn't get it backwards the convention would be that electrons hold a positive charge. Ground would be the positive terminal. Adding electronic would increase an object's charge (and mass). Electronic devices would be seen as things that "used up" electrons. It would all make more sense.
Drives me crazy.
Would this be true at absolute zero? No? Then probably the system is using some heat.
I feel for ya about the sock thing, buddy. I don't think normal people freak out over socks or dirty dishes. She wouldn't happen to be a little bit Aspie, would she?
I think that you are missing the point of the OP. It also seems that you erroneously believe that "displaying" is different than "downloading". However, things you view on the Internet are downloaded to your computer's harddrive, and also copied into RAM. So, if you were to view a photo that I had copyrighted, simply by visiting a website, you have already committed two instances of copyright violation.
I believe the OP's point was that the idea of downloading being a copyright violation is untenable because one cannot determine before the fact, that a particular website will not contain copyrighted material.
@OP, to argue your point. Copyright law prohibits unauthorized reproduction of copyrighted works. The "Four Factor" test for fair use doesn't mention intent. Ignorance is not a defense, etc.. So, as I hereby copyright this entire post, all rights reserved 2012. You are all in violation, and you may consider this a lawful DMCA takedown notice that you must remove this post from your browser cache, RAM and whiteout the offending reproduction on your screen.
My neighbor, whose wireless I steal (TimeWarner Cable) had all his HTTP requests redirected to a copyright notice one day... or something like that. He had to click a checkbox that said, "I am aware of the copyright infringement."
The page he was directed to said,
1. Please see the following list of infringing material.
2. For any questions, call this number and reference the following reference number.
However, there was no list of infringing material, and there was no reference number.
The scanner at my airport spins around you in 360 degrees. Also, it doesn't show any image to the personnel watching the screen right there. Just a pass/fail I suppose.
Can someone explain to me what KHz "sampling rate" has to do with the frequency range you can sample?
Good to know. So that's why in UK based movies people are always wandering into people's homes and out the fire escape. I'll be sure not to punch anyone next time I do that.
"in the UK if you're caught trespassing - assuming you haven't done anything else 'criminal' - then the first redresss of the property owner is to ask you to leave. As long as you comply with that request, there is no crime."
In my state in the USA, if you circumvent some barrier, like a fence or door, it is a crime. From my state's statues (laws) on Trespass:
Violation (not a crime, no jail time): The simple offense is defined in terms of entering or remaining on premises with knowledge of this fact ("...the person knowingly enters or remains unlawfully in or upon premises"). [..] knowledge that the actor's presence on the premises is not licensed, invited, or privileged. Simple trespass is a violation.
Misdemeanor (max 1 year jail time): The most serious aggravation occurs when the trespass is to a dwelling [...](criminal trespass in the first degree), makes this offense a misdemeanor.
Petty Misdemeanor (up to 30 days in jail): A second, less serious aggravation, occurs when the premises are enclosed or fenced. [...] (criminal trespass in the second degree), this kind of trespass is made a petty misdemeanor.
The laws vary by state. Are you saying that in the UK you can hop a fence and it's not a crime? In my state, you cannot.
"liberal elite's war machine"
haha, what are you smoking? What does liberal mean to you? Do you think there are some elite war mongers somewhere that are profiting from war but also support social welfare and personal freedom such as abortion and drug use?
Were the western friendly college kids who could safely walk down the streets before we invaded.... for what reason again?
lol
I think you mean the TB skin test. Not a vaccination.
TB is bacterial, not viral, right? That's why everyone is complaining that there are antibiotic resistant strains of TB. Vaccinations work on viral infections, antibiotics on bacterial infections.
So, don't let your kid exchange bodily fluid with a TB active person thinking they are immune, ok?
I bought a Visio TV and there was too much static. One time a ghost appeared on the screen and then there was an earthquake. Then my sister got sucked through a portal to another dimension and my aunt Tangina had to come save her. Would not buy again.
I just about to express these exact sentiments on facebook. I could just and paste your post to save myself some time.
In other words you think people of certain races shouldn't be able to walk around freely without being interrogated by the police.
Hi,
I've always wondered about the meeting people in Heaven thing. Could you explain to me your personal view?
When you see an elderly relative in Heaven, are they still old, like shortly before they died? Or are they 25 years old, 35?
For infants, do they still look like infants and communicate like infants? Or do they speak and understand English? If so, what other social knowledge do they possess.... like will the understand pop-culture references?
Once I bought a while 1.5lb tray of cheap chicken livers... the ones in the white styrofoam. I made and ate two delicious gourmet fried chicken liver sandwiches.
The liver's where coated in flour, egg, seasoned breadcrumbs, and lightly deep friend. Put them on 7-grain bread, with thick smoked bacon, cabbage and horseradish aoli. Delicious!
I forget exactly what happened. It was miserable. Like a niacin overdose. Flushed, hot, painful skin... it felt like I got beat up by an MMA fighter.