If the machine says Diebold on it, there's a good chance it has been tampered with. qft
Funny how the diebold ATMs work virtually flawlessly (I use one weekly), yet their voting machines are demonstrated to lack security and produce very inaccurate counts.
Diebold protects money better than your democracy; coincidence?
I have a disability and I vote in secrecy. What are you talking about? Maybe you should be more specific about what disabilities would force such a situation. Disability is a word, not a lifestyle. I think, in any case, a write-in ballot would serve the same purpose.
From my understanding, malicious activities such as these are forbidden in a large number of countries that are in agreement with our own national interests. It is because of this that most of these problematic internet-related things come from countries that do not enforce or make efforts to stop these problems. I realize that much may be developed in countries that hold them illegal, but that they are implemented and introduced via. networks in non-enforcing countries.
So what I'm asking criticism of is the idea that we should disconnect from those countries. In essence, forcing those countries to establish some form of network responsibility, or become alienated and disconnected.
I realize this ties closely to net neutrality and such, something that I embrace and promote. In a parallel concept, free speech is relatively 'free', but is limited to the point of obscenity. If we can, as a vast global majority, determine what is an internet-obscenity (metaphorically, of course), would it be appropriate to sever our connections until those areas/countries make efforts to control the obscene?
Like I just replied to the other AC, of course you have no way to verify that it's secure, but at least with the source you still have power over it. If you don't want DRM integrated into the kernel, you don't have to have it. Go ahead and remove the DRM from Vista. I'll wait right here. I understood what you said in the first reply completely. Thanks for the clarification.
I understand your whole argument except the 'free software' implication. I don't see how paying for software, or getting it for free, has anything to do with one's ability to preserve privacy and political security.
Maybe you meant to say "Microsoft allows politicians to open backdoors" or "Linux programmers would not care what politicians want." But since you said neither, your vague comment leaves me wondering how 'free software' relates to 'preserving privacy'.
Another will stand in his place. Wherever the legal system exploits will allow a person to stand, a new person will stand. It will only be a matter of time...
Jack Thompson will fade, but another litigious fool will stand up in his place. Our country, and I hope you realize this, is HEAVILY diseased by the corrupt structure of our legal system. Criminals go without punishment, innocents get punished, and people are allowed to abuse the legal process to extort cash settlements. Hell, even the police know that it costs you more to go to court than to pay the ticket.
This needs to be stopped. Anyone who frequents this site knows how various law offices are capable of extortion MPAA/RIAA. While this is not the only concern, it is a big one. This huge loophole, the ability to scare people with the costs of proving innocence to extort settlements, is wrong wrong wrong.
We have plenty of American students registering and studying in science and engineering; I am one of them. But what we do have, as well, is a good amount of willing persons being denied seats in those universities so that foreign students can get in; if it were a private university I would not be concerned, but these are public universities, emplaced and funded by our citizens.
An American can get the job done just as well, but would require fair pay; something a foreign student is willing to sacrifice in exchange for the ability to make more money here relative to his/her homeland.
Thanks for attacking my writing sample instead of my argument about corporations and foreign persons pillaging our political exploits. The point still stands, and so does the corruption within our government that allows such activity. And no, I don't want to be hired by IBM or Microsoft, I'm a pre-med student.
I don't care if the companies go to Korea, that would be fine by me. It isn't my interest how these companies need to establish themselves, nor is their profitability my interest. What is of interest is the disassociation of obligation to that which is nationally funded and produced, the destruction of the national values that gave us our greatness, and the ability of big-money to subvert our political processes and establish methods like these for capital interests.
What you are failing to see is that a public entity of the US is directly obliged to serve US Citizens; that is what public means. When publicly owned and developed entities, such as universities, are pushed (via corruption) to allow businesses to sell-out the american workforce and student body for cheap imports, it raises concern.
And you should learn that correlation does noty impy causation asshole.
I don't know the exact percentage, but circa 50% of all methane in our atmosphere is caused by cows farting... do you advocate the mass culling of cows to sustain gaia ??? There is more than correlative evidence, the evidence is conclusive. The people, including yourself, that attempt to diminish this fact, have provided no serious factual evidence, usually resorting to fallacies (as you have done). Nice red-herring, but I'll have a full order of Truth instead, but thanks for offering it.
This isn't informative, it is ignorance. Man's impact on the environment of the earth is extensively proven in science and should not be discarded as a 'boogie man' or any other branding of false alert. Tritonman: Please, go learn.
The subversion of the Constitution and what civil rights we have is happening at an astounding rate and is facilitated by both major parties. I would not blame 'the Republicans' for something that is being methodically enacted with the intent and consent of both parties. It is hard for a person to see the whole when their eyes are closed; please let go of your partisan bias and look at the whole. The whole is simple: The Federal Government is expanding and promoting more power for itself, as facilitated by the politicians who are members of that Government. It is in THEIR best interest to continue to diminish your individual rights so that they can grow. If this 'war' is not apparent yet, you need only to do a brief history review of the lineage of the US Federal Government, noting key points where it has expanded or enacted Federal controls over US Citizens or the States of the Union. Remember, the United States was formed under a concept similar to the EU, a UNION of STATES, with the intent of the States to find self-governance, with little UNION(Federal) interference. ***What we have now is very little states rights and NO transparency, the Federal Government IS the law now, they ARE the rule. Do you see that now? It wasn't always so, and the beginnings of our country show us the America we were supposed to be living in.
Don't you guys see? First he'll break the technology while trying to 'fix' it; then he'll make a horrible children's movie about it involving santa suits; then he'll sell the parts to fuel his coke habit.
Tim Allen ruined the future.
On Slashdot internet, thinking frees you.
Actually, I just mean that there is no free thinking here, just stupid cliched memes. Seems so... And when you DON'T regurgitate, aka having a free thought, you are identified as ignorant. There is no winning, I suppose.
And if you do that, the government wouldn't even have to prove you had encrypted something illegal. The fact that you had used an unapproved encryption algorithm would be all they need to arrest you. How does that help? This is aligned with thoughtcrime, the crime of a noncriminal act that is not proven directly related to criminal activity. It would be a shame to see such activity, but I think thats where we are going... sadly. Lets not ban guns just yet, mmkay?
It is a big deal, and it is a good one. Long story short, people charging to repeat information to you will be shafted by a company like Google that can do that simple task for free. Very cool. Hell, why should we be paying subscriptions for someone to tell me public info?
Nothing you said makes any sense in the context of foreign people building America other than them costing less to pay. All that you said can and still would have been done, but merely at a higher cost reinvesting into our local persons, aka citizens.
H1-B visas are a way for big business to shaft the very people that made their business possible and profitable in exchange for, for lack of a better term, CHEAP LABOR. The American Standard of living and cost is much higher, and thus true citizens require larger pay and benefits; in contrast, a korean student, funded by his government, can come here, learn in a seat paid for by US Citizen tax dollars (Public Universities), and accept a job for US-relative LOW PAY, funneling cash back to his homeland.
Now, please, with all due respect, go home and make your own greatness; stop pillaging the exploits of our corrupt government that allows big business to sell out our popular body.
Your parents didn't build the roads, the parks, the defense, the firestations, the communications infrastructure, etc, did they? Furthermore, foreign-persons did not PUT IN what a citizen has. Example? Did these foreign people pick up random litter here through their lives? Or help their American peers understand difficult concepts while growing up? Did they join the boyscouts and do fundraisers? Did they hold the door open for elderly people? Did they get a job at 16 and pay taxes while developing as a person here? No They didn't. They showed up at the age of 20 (or so) and started sucking off the fruits of American public efforts.
It isn't taxes, or your where you were born that makes you an american. And when i say "raised and fed", it is not such a literal term of your parents obligations, but rather something so greatly important as your community and culture; yet you obviously fail to respect where you come from. Open your eyes, without America, you would not be where you are, and without serving America at a citizen, one does not deserve to block a Citizens opportunity by stealing his seat in school.
You've made 2 very good points. Imagine if all the chinese and japanese students at Berkeley were ousted, I think there might be an american out there that would take it (you, for example?).
And you're right. Unless they are engineering weapons, our country doesn't put any value in the fields of technology and science; at least nothing relatively impressive compared to all the wasteful spending on killing crap. The appreciation and pay for these fields are weak and the lawlessness of corporate America only exacerbates the divide.
Not true. There are thousands of Americans who would love the opportunity to learn and develop skills; more than there are foreign students of your example. If you're American, don't forget which hand raised and fed you, and if you're not, then please don't speak of things you don't know. If you have some form of evidence to back your 'can't find.... willing and capable', please do, but as an American who is willing, capable, and succeeding, I have seen PLENTY of my fellow citizens who are willing and capable, but not admitted.
I agree. As a student in a public university, I find it APPALLING that the concept of public funding is set aside for the ease of cash flow; by this I mean that schools like UC Berkeley will accept a foreign student over a California Citizen for any number of reasons, while failing to acknowledge that every single person in California deserves the right to admittance and education before ANY FOREIGN student. Why? Public funding, public establishment, public duty. Our seats in educational facilities are limited, and many are sold to high-paying foreigners when our own citizens cannot get in. THIS IS WRONG. Private institutions can do what they wish, thats their right. But public institutions need a slap in the face so they can be reminded of what duties they *ought* serve as product of American public resources. We need more engineers and doctors in America, so why is it that over 50% of our engineering or physics graduate students are not citizens? This is sick, and so is this concept of allowing these foreign citizens to work for short periods. They aren't American; and if they want to, they can stand in line and swear in like all the other legal immigrants we now call FELLOW CITIZENS.
Interesting point. You've found a big hole in their argument (lies, as we can now assume).
I still fail to understand why tricky business practices like throttling, suggestive advertising, etcetera, are even allowed in modern societies. The truth in their product should be explicitly and easily understood. A consumer should have no doubt about the product they are paying for.
... Is there anyone with so little desire to bite back at monopolists that they knuckle under and pay for XP? Yep. Pretty much all of us. Or at least anyone who wants to actually do something with their computer. Its a shame, and I see the linux movement growing, but it is still a reality. Once the 'windows requirement' for versatile and popular use of a computer system is gone we'll find something else to cry about; maybe we'll cry about too many options leaving us with too-little interoperability?
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Funny how the diebold ATMs work virtually flawlessly (I use one weekly), yet their voting machines are demonstrated to lack security and produce very inaccurate counts.
Diebold protects money better than your democracy; coincidence?
I have a disability and I vote in secrecy. What are you talking about? Maybe you should be more specific about what disabilities would force such a situation. Disability is a word, not a lifestyle. I think, in any case, a write-in ballot would serve the same purpose.
From my understanding, malicious activities such as these are forbidden in a large number of countries that are in agreement with our own national interests. It is because of this that most of these problematic internet-related things come from countries that do not enforce or make efforts to stop these problems. I realize that much may be developed in countries that hold them illegal, but that they are implemented and introduced via. networks in non-enforcing countries.
So what I'm asking criticism of is the idea that we should disconnect from those countries. In essence, forcing those countries to establish some form of network responsibility, or become alienated and disconnected.
I realize this ties closely to net neutrality and such, something that I embrace and promote. In a parallel concept, free speech is relatively 'free', but is limited to the point of obscenity. If we can, as a vast global majority, determine what is an internet-obscenity (metaphorically, of course), would it be appropriate to sever our connections until those areas/countries make efforts to control the obscene?
I can attempt to clarify that which seems crazy.
In other words: Is it a bad thing that the MONEY has a very big impact on how justice is served?
I understand your whole argument except the 'free software' implication. I don't see how paying for software, or getting it for free, has anything to do with one's ability to preserve privacy and political security.
Maybe you meant to say "Microsoft allows politicians to open backdoors" or "Linux programmers would not care what politicians want." But since you said neither, your vague comment leaves me wondering how 'free software' relates to 'preserving privacy'.
Another will stand in his place. Wherever the legal system exploits will allow a person to stand, a new person will stand. It will only be a matter of time...
Jack Thompson will fade, but another litigious fool will stand up in his place. Our country, and I hope you realize this, is HEAVILY diseased by the corrupt structure of our legal system. Criminals go without punishment, innocents get punished, and people are allowed to abuse the legal process to extort cash settlements. Hell, even the police know that it costs you more to go to court than to pay the ticket.
This needs to be stopped. Anyone who frequents this site knows how various law offices are capable of extortion MPAA/RIAA. While this is not the only concern, it is a big one. This huge loophole, the ability to scare people with the costs of proving innocence to extort settlements, is wrong wrong wrong.
I hope others are in agreement about this.
We have plenty of American students registering and studying in science and engineering; I am one of them. But what we do have, as well, is a good amount of willing persons being denied seats in those universities so that foreign students can get in; if it were a private university I would not be concerned, but these are public universities, emplaced and funded by our citizens. An American can get the job done just as well, but would require fair pay; something a foreign student is willing to sacrifice in exchange for the ability to make more money here relative to his/her homeland. Thanks for attacking my writing sample instead of my argument about corporations and foreign persons pillaging our political exploits. The point still stands, and so does the corruption within our government that allows such activity. And no, I don't want to be hired by IBM or Microsoft, I'm a pre-med student. I don't care if the companies go to Korea, that would be fine by me. It isn't my interest how these companies need to establish themselves, nor is their profitability my interest. What is of interest is the disassociation of obligation to that which is nationally funded and produced, the destruction of the national values that gave us our greatness, and the ability of big-money to subvert our political processes and establish methods like these for capital interests. What you are failing to see is that a public entity of the US is directly obliged to serve US Citizens; that is what public means. When publicly owned and developed entities, such as universities, are pushed (via corruption) to allow businesses to sell-out the american workforce and student body for cheap imports, it raises concern.
Blow my dick, theotard. The truth is evident, whether your limited mind can handle it or not.
This isn't informative, it is ignorance. Man's impact on the environment of the earth is extensively proven in science and should not be discarded as a 'boogie man' or any other branding of false alert. Tritonman: Please, go learn.
The subversion of the Constitution and what civil rights we have is happening at an astounding rate and is facilitated by both major parties. I would not blame 'the Republicans' for something that is being methodically enacted with the intent and consent of both parties. It is hard for a person to see the whole when their eyes are closed; please let go of your partisan bias and look at the whole. The whole is simple: The Federal Government is expanding and promoting more power for itself, as facilitated by the politicians who are members of that Government. It is in THEIR best interest to continue to diminish your individual rights so that they can grow. If this 'war' is not apparent yet, you need only to do a brief history review of the lineage of the US Federal Government, noting key points where it has expanded or enacted Federal controls over US Citizens or the States of the Union. Remember, the United States was formed under a concept similar to the EU, a UNION of STATES, with the intent of the States to find self-governance, with little UNION(Federal) interference. ***What we have now is very little states rights and NO transparency, the Federal Government IS the law now, they ARE the rule. Do you see that now? It wasn't always so, and the beginnings of our country show us the America we were supposed to be living in.
Don't you guys see? First he'll break the technology while trying to 'fix' it; then he'll make a horrible children's movie about it involving santa suits; then he'll sell the parts to fuel his coke habit. Tim Allen ruined the future.
It is a big deal, and it is a good one. Long story short, people charging to repeat information to you will be shafted by a company like Google that can do that simple task for free. Very cool. Hell, why should we be paying subscriptions for someone to tell me public info?
Nothing you said makes any sense in the context of foreign people building America other than them costing less to pay. All that you said can and still would have been done, but merely at a higher cost reinvesting into our local persons, aka citizens. H1-B visas are a way for big business to shaft the very people that made their business possible and profitable in exchange for, for lack of a better term, CHEAP LABOR. The American Standard of living and cost is much higher, and thus true citizens require larger pay and benefits; in contrast, a korean student, funded by his government, can come here, learn in a seat paid for by US Citizen tax dollars (Public Universities), and accept a job for US-relative LOW PAY, funneling cash back to his homeland. Now, please, with all due respect, go home and make your own greatness; stop pillaging the exploits of our corrupt government that allows big business to sell out our popular body.
This really does clear things up for all these lie-regurgitating ignoramites on here. Thanks for the long and informative post.
Your parents didn't build the roads, the parks, the defense, the firestations, the communications infrastructure, etc, did they? Furthermore, foreign-persons did not PUT IN what a citizen has. Example? Did these foreign people pick up random litter here through their lives? Or help their American peers understand difficult concepts while growing up? Did they join the boyscouts and do fundraisers? Did they hold the door open for elderly people? Did they get a job at 16 and pay taxes while developing as a person here? No They didn't. They showed up at the age of 20 (or so) and started sucking off the fruits of American public efforts. It isn't taxes, or your where you were born that makes you an american. And when i say "raised and fed", it is not such a literal term of your parents obligations, but rather something so greatly important as your community and culture; yet you obviously fail to respect where you come from. Open your eyes, without America, you would not be where you are, and without serving America at a citizen, one does not deserve to block a Citizens opportunity by stealing his seat in school.
You've made 2 very good points. Imagine if all the chinese and japanese students at Berkeley were ousted, I think there might be an american out there that would take it (you, for example?). And you're right. Unless they are engineering weapons, our country doesn't put any value in the fields of technology and science; at least nothing relatively impressive compared to all the wasteful spending on killing crap. The appreciation and pay for these fields are weak and the lawlessness of corporate America only exacerbates the divide.
Not true. There are thousands of Americans who would love the opportunity to learn and develop skills; more than there are foreign students of your example. If you're American, don't forget which hand raised and fed you, and if you're not, then please don't speak of things you don't know. If you have some form of evidence to back your 'can't find.... willing and capable', please do, but as an American who is willing, capable, and succeeding, I have seen PLENTY of my fellow citizens who are willing and capable, but not admitted.
I agree. As a student in a public university, I find it APPALLING that the concept of public funding is set aside for the ease of cash flow; by this I mean that schools like UC Berkeley will accept a foreign student over a California Citizen for any number of reasons, while failing to acknowledge that every single person in California deserves the right to admittance and education before ANY FOREIGN student. Why? Public funding, public establishment, public duty. Our seats in educational facilities are limited, and many are sold to high-paying foreigners when our own citizens cannot get in. THIS IS WRONG. Private institutions can do what they wish, thats their right. But public institutions need a slap in the face so they can be reminded of what duties they *ought* serve as product of American public resources. We need more engineers and doctors in America, so why is it that over 50% of our engineering or physics graduate students are not citizens? This is sick, and so is this concept of allowing these foreign citizens to work for short periods. They aren't American; and if they want to, they can stand in line and swear in like all the other legal immigrants we now call FELLOW CITIZENS.
Interesting point. You've found a big hole in their argument (lies, as we can now assume). I still fail to understand why tricky business practices like throttling, suggestive advertising, etcetera, are even allowed in modern societies. The truth in their product should be explicitly and easily understood. A consumer should have no doubt about the product they are paying for.
... Is there anyone with so little desire to bite back at monopolists that they knuckle under and pay for XP? Yep. Pretty much all of us. Or at least anyone who wants to actually do something with their computer. Its a shame, and I see the linux movement growing, but it is still a reality. Once the 'windows requirement' for versatile and popular use of a computer system is gone we'll find something else to cry about; maybe we'll cry about too many options leaving us with too-little interoperability?