JITs have been around forever, and Moores law has been in effect since Java was released, and yet I've still not seen any reasonably complex application (such as a browser) written in Java that wasn't dog-ass slow.
There are only two decent JVMs from a speed perspective: Microsoft's and IBM's. Microsofts is obviously out of the quesiton in terms of usability for running a Java browser on Linux. IBM's is hobbled by the fact that its still living in the Java 1.x world.
Java is a great language, but you can't overlook the speed issues it still has as a client-side platform.
I'd be more impressed if RedHat had an open support discount extended to any certified educational instituion that resides in a market they cover. (US, Europe, etc).
Also, commenting on some previous posts here...The comparsion between that RedHat and Apple attempted with regards to education is slightly flawed. Apple nearly gave machines away in an attempt to get kids to know Macs (and previously Apple IIs) better, so that when they bought their own system, it would be Apple...
Well, the problem is...RedHat sells support. By giving schools discounted support, these kids will (hopefully) learn Linux... Once they do, they don't need RedHat anymore, as RedHat is basically just a support organization! Well, currently...I'm sure we'll continue to see this change in the near future.
I think its great that this is happening, and exposing kids to ANY alternative operating systems at a young age is a Good Thing.
However, you seem to have convieniently forgotten that Apple's strategy largely failed. How many of the kids who used Apple IIs and Macs in High School and College use them now? Mostly only the graphics designers. It seems that cool colored cases are more important than early exposure, at least based on the market!
VA's core business strategy has nothing to do with software. They are, esentially, a hardware sales company that happens to support Linux. By offering tools and services such as SourceForge, they raise consumer awareness of themselves, with the end result being more sales of Linux-based systems. Its a win-win situation for Linux users and VA.
All of you giggling and postulating about Bill Gates being wary of a Microsoft breakup should be aware that he may be laughing all the way to the bank in the near future.
The government might split Microsoft into 3 (or so) entities, but it can't strip Bill Gates of what will be his large ownership in all 3 companies. And will breaking Microsoft up instantly produce a viable competitor for Windows? Office? Internet Explorer? (Note: I'm not talking technical merit, I'm talking end-users BUYING what they know).
Very likely all three companies will do really well, just inflating Bill Gates' personal fortune into even more stratospheric heights. It happened to Rockerfeller when the government split up Standard Oil, don't be surprised to see it happen again.
If Bill Gates retired outright, with no warning, Microsoft stock would sink like a rock, hurting his own fortune, most of which still exists as Microsoft stock. This is not because Microsoft is any less viable without him, but the day trading lemmings would all jump off the cliff. (Microsoft == Bill Gates) in the minds of many people for better or worse.
How'd this end up being an anti-Microsoft thread? Are so many Slashdot users so preoccupied with hating Microsoft? If Microsoft tried to pull this shit (say, order sites with a Win2K theme for a Linux WM) they'd be flamed to high heaven here.
You might say, well...Microsoft hasn't really innovated on the GUI front...And that is mostly true, but Aqua is not really original either. Yes, its very pretty and looks nice, but please point out a single feature it has that hasn't already appeared in some previous GUI. This isn't meant as a rant on Aqua's unoriginality, as Aqua is quite nice, and certainly riskier and better than what Microsoft is offering for Win2K and Millenium...However Apple's stupidity in trying to harrass the skin-sites really sucks.
Not to take credit from the early-adopter console hardware hackers as many do amazing things with so little to work from, but more information than you realize is often from the console manufacturer, just in a round-about way.
Usually it goes something like...hacker-x knows game-programmer-y, who works at an NDAed registered developer of console-Z. game-programmer-y shares more information with hacker-x than he should, by law.
As anctedotal evidence, I know for a fact that Sony released its documentation for the PSX in Adobe PDF format to its developers, and that copies of these PDFs were distributed far wider than the law allows. (PS. No, I don't have copies, and can't send you any. And yes, this is for the full PSX documentation, not just the Yaroze documentation, which were also PDF based).
Its not the coding that is the primary problem (as I see it). There already exists Genesis, Jet3D, Crystal Space and other Open Source engines which in most respects are not far off from even the best of commercial engines being released now. There's also now Quake1 open source, which is based upon much older technology, but a "proven" basis for even a modern game, like Half-Life. The real problem with these types of efforts is that, as far as I've seen, nobody is quite sure how "Open Source" relates to the more traditionally artistic (note: I'm not saying coding is/can't be artistic, so no flame wars please:) ) pieces of a polished game, such as modelling, texture creation, music creation, sound effects, etc.
I wouldn't buy this card at any rate, because ATI is a bit of an "also ran" when it comes to current 3D technology, and this card is no exception.
However, faulting a company releasing a graphics card right now without a Linux driver is a bit unfair. Lets wait until XFree4 is widely available (at which point Linux will finally have something like a standard 3D driver system) before we bash anyone for lack of drivers, and this includes NVidia, 3DFX, etc as well as ATI.
Nice flamebait, but since you're (supposedly) pro-Linux, why are you bashing SGI, who is also pro-Linux?
The IR2 wasn't created for running Quake2. You're comparing apples to oranges...However, it does stand to reason that current and future consumer level PC cards will start beating the "big iron" for rendering of a few years ago. Yet more Moores Law in action, this time applied to the graphics processor rather than the CPU.
As much as I like Linux, Linux doesn't specifically do 3D better than any operating system. In fact, technically, you could call Windows a better 3D OS, since at least (since Win98 B) it has come with a standard 3D API (OpenGL), whereas Linux has no true standard (Mesa is a bit of a de facto standard... XFree4 should fix the whole issue, but I digress...)
Also, while Linux might get some of the big name 3D packages (Maya, etc), don't hold your breath for them to become Open Source.
No Linux support sucks, from a user perspective...
No NT/Win2000 support sucks from a BUSINESS perspective. So many graphics card makers ignore the NT market despite the fact that game developers almost universally use NT or now Win 2000 to develop in...Who wants to write and debug code under 98? Not me. By not supplying an OpenGL driver for NT4 and not supplying OpenGL and DirectX 7 drivers for Windows 2000, companies are shooting themselves in the foot as far as getting good developer support and optimization for their cards.
Only NVidia and 3DFX seem to really grasp this concept, which is probably why all the other card makers continue to exist only because of OEM deals where users dont really know what they are getting.
OK, so this hole shouldn't exist, especially as the exploit was written by the company itself!
But the impact seems pretty minimal. The "nightmare scenerio" mentioned in the article is that someone might send death threats that look real from someone elses email or whatever. With SMTP, you can already do that, since so mail mailer hosts don't use even the most basic authentication for MAIL FROM: headers. So, it seems like the end result of this bug is pretty tame.... Probably wouldn't even be mentioned here if Microsoft didn't own WebTV.
IANAL, but in the US, I believe this whole case would be thrown out, if not for the ridiculousness of it, then for the fact that the character could be seen as parody of a(n in)famous person.
Is the suit being brought in japan? I didn't see any information one way or other in the original article? Do they feel differently about parody there? My guess is this guy just files suits once in a while to keep his name in the papers.
Its the fact that they are real that causes me to laugh. They wouldn't be nearly as funny if they were just made up.
I realize its tragic for people who know someone who died and is nominated for an award, but personally I try not to associate with morons -- to cut down on my risk of being in that situation.
Please go read up on how Quake's client/server model works before you post here again, because your assumptions are all entirely wrong. AIMBOTing is the most DAMAGING hack of all. Because all of the rest that you mentioned can't happen unless the SERVER is hacked code.
Please go read up on how Quake's client/server model works before you post here again, because your assumptions are all entirely wrong. AIMBOTing is the most DAMAGING hack of all. Because all of the rest that you mentioned can't happen.
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There are only two decent JVMs from a speed perspective: Microsoft's and IBM's. Microsofts is obviously out of the quesiton in terms of usability for running a Java browser on Linux. IBM's is hobbled by the fact that its still living in the Java 1.x world.
Java is a great language, but you can't overlook the speed issues it still has as a client-side platform.
Its just not present in any of the shipped maps, and its a pickup object, like a gun, not like the grapple in Q2CTF or Lithium.
Slashdot is a computer program? So that stuff about my page being generated by a Team of Elite Squirrels is a lie?
Also, commenting on some previous posts here...The comparsion between that RedHat and Apple attempted with regards to education is slightly flawed. Apple nearly gave machines away in an attempt to get kids to know Macs (and previously Apple IIs) better, so that when they bought their own system, it would be Apple...
Well, the problem is...RedHat sells support. By giving schools discounted support, these kids will (hopefully) learn Linux... Once they do, they don't need RedHat anymore, as RedHat is basically just a support organization! Well, currently...I'm sure we'll continue to see this change in the near future.
However, you seem to have convieniently forgotten that Apple's strategy largely failed. How many of the kids who used Apple IIs and Macs in High School and College use them now? Mostly only the graphics designers. It seems that cool colored cases are more important than early exposure, at least based on the market!
The government might split Microsoft into 3 (or so) entities, but it can't strip Bill Gates of what will be his large ownership in all 3 companies. And will breaking Microsoft up instantly produce a viable competitor for Windows? Office? Internet Explorer? (Note: I'm not talking technical merit, I'm talking end-users BUYING what they know).
Very likely all three companies will do really well, just inflating Bill Gates' personal fortune into even more stratospheric heights. It happened to Rockerfeller when the government split up Standard Oil, don't be surprised to see it happen again.
If Bill Gates retired outright, with no warning, Microsoft stock would sink like a rock, hurting his own fortune, most of which still exists as Microsoft stock. This is not because Microsoft is any less viable without him, but the day trading lemmings would all jump off the cliff. (Microsoft == Bill Gates) in the minds of many people for better or worse.
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Moderate this post UP!!!
Time to pop that cyanide pill I've been carrying around, I guess.
You might say, well...Microsoft hasn't really innovated on the GUI front...And that is mostly true, but Aqua is not really original either. Yes, its very pretty and looks nice, but please point out a single feature it has that hasn't already appeared in some previous GUI. This isn't meant as a rant on Aqua's unoriginality, as Aqua is quite nice, and certainly riskier and better than what Microsoft is offering for Win2K and Millenium...However Apple's stupidity in trying to harrass the skin-sites really sucks.
Usually it goes something like...hacker-x knows game-programmer-y, who works at an NDAed registered developer of console-Z. game-programmer-y shares more information with hacker-x than he should, by law.
As anctedotal evidence, I know for a fact that Sony released its documentation for the PSX in Adobe PDF format to its developers, and that copies of these PDFs were distributed far wider than the law allows. (PS. No, I don't have copies, and can't send you any. And yes, this is for the full PSX documentation, not just the Yaroze documentation, which were also PDF based).
Think he's helpful to newbies? Go on IRC and ask him a newbie Perl question. See how fast you get kick/banned.
Its called package tracking. Its been around for years. Look into it!
Its not the coding that is the primary problem (as I see it). There already exists Genesis, Jet3D, Crystal Space and other Open Source engines which in most respects are not far off from even the best of commercial engines being released now. There's also now Quake1 open source, which is based upon much older technology, but a "proven" basis for even a modern game, like Half-Life. The real problem with these types of efforts is that, as far as I've seen, nobody is quite sure how "Open Source" relates to the more traditionally artistic (note: I'm not saying coding is/can't be artistic, so no flame wars please :) ) pieces of a polished game, such as modelling, texture creation, music creation, sound effects, etc.
However, faulting a company releasing a graphics card right now without a Linux driver is a bit unfair. Lets wait until XFree4 is widely available (at which point Linux will finally have something like a standard 3D driver system) before we bash anyone for lack of drivers, and this includes NVidia, 3DFX, etc as well as ATI.
The IR2 wasn't created for running Quake2. You're comparing apples to oranges...However, it does stand to reason that current and future consumer level PC cards will start beating the "big iron" for rendering of a few years ago. Yet more Moores Law in action, this time applied to the graphics processor rather than the CPU.
As much as I like Linux, Linux doesn't specifically do 3D better than any operating system. In fact, technically, you could call Windows a better 3D OS, since at least (since Win98 B) it has come with a standard 3D API (OpenGL), whereas Linux has no true standard (Mesa is a bit of a de facto standard... XFree4 should fix the whole issue, but I digress...)
Also, while Linux might get some of the big name 3D packages (Maya, etc), don't hold your breath for them to become Open Source.
No NT/Win2000 support sucks from a BUSINESS perspective. So many graphics card makers ignore the NT market despite the fact that game developers almost universally use NT or now Win 2000 to develop in...Who wants to write and debug code under 98? Not me. By not supplying an OpenGL driver for NT4 and not supplying OpenGL and DirectX 7 drivers for Windows 2000, companies are shooting themselves in the foot as far as getting good developer support and optimization for their cards.
Only NVidia and 3DFX seem to really grasp this concept, which is probably why all the other card makers continue to exist only because of OEM deals where users dont really know what they are getting.
But the impact seems pretty minimal. The "nightmare scenerio" mentioned in the article is that someone might send death threats that look real from someone elses email or whatever. With SMTP, you can already do that, since so mail mailer hosts don't use even the most basic authentication for MAIL FROM: headers. So, it seems like the end result of this bug is pretty tame.... Probably wouldn't even be mentioned here if Microsoft didn't own WebTV.
Is the suit being brought in japan? I didn't see any information one way or other in the original article? Do they feel differently about parody there? My guess is this guy just files suits once in a while to keep his name in the papers.
In that way, its just like the market for computer virus protection, except Y2K can only happen once, whereas the virii market keeps on and on.
I realize its tragic for people who know someone who died and is nominated for an award, but personally I try not to associate with morons -- to cut down on my risk of being in that situation.
Please go read up on how Quake's client/server model works before you post here again, because your assumptions are all entirely wrong. AIMBOTing is the most DAMAGING hack of all. Because all of the rest that you mentioned can't happen unless the SERVER is hacked code.
Please go read up on how Quake's client/server model works before you post here again, because your assumptions are all entirely wrong. AIMBOTing is the most DAMAGING hack of all. Because all of the rest that you mentioned can't happen.