It's like owning a Triumph TR 6. It's great when your driving on a back road, with the top down and your winding about some mountain road at twice the safe speed. But when the dual carburetors need fixing and you have to empty your bank to fix it. Well that's like buying form Sony....
<quote> At the moment I have this sinking feeling the do mean an X11 replacement. This would separate ChromeOS from being just another distro, it won't be able to run many apps, only ChromeOS apps. </quote>
Im sorry and don't mean to flame but, it will run all the HTML 5 applications in the world! ALL of them It's not meant to run Linux apps. No you won't be able to start up "GNOME 4 or more"
It will run ANY HTML 5 application. Lamenting that it won't run X applications is Backward looking.
Think HTML 5 CSS 3 Javascript. DHTML AJAX....
from a googles press release http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html
<quote>We're designing the OS to be fast and lightweight, to start up and get you onto the web in a few seconds.</quote>
Can you imagine how nice it would be to be able to boot in few seconds.....
Not just wake up from sleep mode like a laptop, but to boot and load the start page in a few seconds......
Who cares about running linux apps on this thing, get a PC if you want that.
I want to know the weather this morning in 10 seconds. Not 3 minutes to boot, login and find the page. I want to know if the traffic is bad for my commute in less than a minute.
I want to hear about some important news event in seconds (like Iran or Michael Jackson) while it's still fresh. (although finding a slashdotted website faster than other computers isn't the end goal for all of us).
even if there is only one application. You still need a windowing system. When a browser developer wants to communicate something to a user, say a javascript call called the function "alert()". It's the windowing system itself that puts up that alert box up. Even if the windowing system were just a huge library that got complied with the browser (dumb I know) it would still be there and be a windowing system. so yes there needs to be a (hopefully, lightweight) windowing system. Even if it only runs one application (or became part of the application)
I think that GNU will be able to take credit for all the libraries that applications (like the browser) will use. So even if there are NO applications (save the browser) things like printf() and random() and ctime() etc... are libraries that will probably be the GNU versions....
yeah, me too, I never worry about... now why does it keep saying frag error link 238 of 4096.....
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While I don't agree with everthing said here, a lecture by Dennis Plauger, author of a book, "Software Tools" (with Brian W. Kernighan), and at the time, custodian of the C programming language, said that when API's get too big, like in the 10's of thousands and hundreds of thousands of functions (like X windows), You need a different paradigm or language. API's that have hundreds to thousands of functions available are much easier to use and understand. This was in 1993'ish.
So lets not, "fuck Kernighan and Richie" if they were to invent something today, it would not be C. They only invented C to make kernel programming possible in a higher level language.
Back then, people used to say, "a kernel cannot be written in a high level language", they're way to slow....
K&R said "Bah" to that thinking and yes most all kernels today are written in high level languages.
BTW, when I first started using C in 1979, I was using a Nova Computer, running RDOS (Remember Data General anyone). In RDOS, everything was written in assembly language, yes your text editor was written in assebmly language so when Data General came up with a new computer, they get to rewrite everything from scratch......And that was the norm throughout the industry.
So the vast improvement's brought by K&R, have made lots of what we take for granted today, happen.
So yes, using C now, is a little long in the tooth.......
But I wouldn't want to use java to write an interrupt routine.........
Isn't this how smart cards work already? I thought that smart cards had a tiny chip on them with no power supply, they get the energy to perform the transaction from the antenna built into the card when it's held over the point of sale device.
Which gives it just enough juice to perform the job at hand and then go back to sleep when the card it put away. So we already use it and need it to survive;)
Personally I welcome our new wireless power overlords......
My results confirm yours Minefield MD5 Benchmark took 0.71 seconds for 3000 hashes (4225 hashes/second) MD4 Benchmark took 0.446 seconds for 2700 hashes (6054 hashes/second) SHA1 Benchmark took 0.721 seconds for 1900 hashes (2635 hashes/second)
Chrome MD5 Benchmark took 0.411 seconds for 3000 hashes (7299 hashes/second) MD4 Benchmark took 0.162 seconds for 2700 hashes (16667 hashes/second) SHA1 Benchmark took 0.18 seconds for 1900 hashes (10556 hashes/second)
and just to laugh IE 7 MD5 Benchmark took 3.885 seconds for 3000 hashes (772 hashes/second) MD4 Benchmark took 12.473 seconds for 2700 hashes (216 hashes/second) SHA1 Benchmark took 3.838 seconds for 1900 hashes (495 hashes/second)
All running on Vista with a Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 @ 2.4 GHz
The game Monopoly isn't like home ownership
The game Operation isn't like surgery
The game "The game of Life" isn't like real life
The game Battleship isn't like naval combat.
The game Hungry Hungry Hippos, doesn't accurately reflect the feeding habits of hippos.
Slashdot Mirror
nor have I even read any comments here
but the next time I hem and haw about Mac vs Windows.
I'll choose Mac, cuz at least they aren't try to sabotage me and my applications....(probably)
The next time one of those idiots on TV say "Im a PC" I'll say back "and your infected! get away from me......"
It's like owning a Triumph TR 6. It's great when your driving on a back road, with the top down and your winding about some mountain road at twice the safe speed. But when the dual carburetors need fixing and you have to empty your bank to fix it. Well that's like buying form Sony....
most of these people are soooo stuck in the past... they will be obsolete in 10 year....
Either that, or in 10 years they will complain about how new things are just like wave....... and insult you.....
<quote><p>I think we should take bets now. I've got five bucks that says the "beta" tag will be removed not before 5 years from today.</p></quote>
Probably true, and it will probably become a used and useful to millions in 2 years!
lol I get it cuz I is old!
have sex :p
so now were going to slashdot the sites that are undergoing the DDoS attacks, that will make them run faster ;)
He's on first base.....
They do make billions every month. So I guess that didn't bankrupt them.
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At the moment I have this sinking feeling the do mean an X11 replacement. This would separate ChromeOS from being just another distro, it won't be able to run many apps, only ChromeOS apps. </quote>
Im sorry and don't mean to flame but, it will run all the HTML 5 applications in the world! ALL of them It's not meant to run Linux apps. No you won't be able to start up "GNOME 4 or more"
It will run ANY HTML 5 application. Lamenting that it won't run X applications is Backward looking.
Think HTML 5 CSS 3 Javascript. DHTML AJAX....
from a googles press release http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/introducing-google-chrome-os.html
<quote>We're designing the OS to be fast and lightweight, to start up and get you onto the web in a few seconds.</quote>
Can you imagine how nice it would be to be able to boot in few seconds.....
Not just wake up from sleep mode like a laptop, but to boot and load the start page in a few seconds......
Who cares about running linux apps on this thing, get a PC if you want that.
I want to know the weather this morning in 10 seconds. Not 3 minutes to boot, login and find the page. I want to know if the traffic is bad for my commute in less than a minute.
I want to hear about some important news event in seconds (like Iran or Michael Jackson) while it's still fresh. (although finding a slashdotted website faster than other computers
isn't the end goal for all of us).
I don't want to run old clunky linux apps......
We obviously have different goals in mind.......
even if there is only one application. You still need a windowing system. When a browser developer wants to communicate something to a user, say a javascript call called the function "alert()". It's the windowing system itself that puts up that alert box up. Even if the windowing system were just a huge library that got complied with the browser (dumb I know) it would still be there and be a windowing system. so yes there needs to be a (hopefully, lightweight) windowing system. Even if it only runs one application (or became part of the application)
I think that GNU will be able to take credit for all the libraries that applications (like the browser) will use. So even if there are NO applications (save the browser) things like printf()
and random() and ctime() etc... are libraries that will probably be the GNU versions....
So Chrome/Linux/GNU might be appropriate.
someone mod this down as offensive.....
:P
get a sense of humor......
what they said. yes it does look damn good.
in HD..
that's because it was good.....
yeah, me too, I never worry about... now why does it keep saying frag error link 238 of 4096.....
While I don't agree with everthing said here, a lecture by Dennis Plauger, author of a book, "Software Tools" (with Brian W. Kernighan), and at the time, custodian of the C programming language, said that when API's get too big, like in the 10's of thousands and hundreds of thousands of functions (like X windows), You need a different paradigm or language.
API's that have hundreds to thousands of functions available are much easier to use and understand. This was in 1993'ish.
So lets not, "fuck Kernighan and Richie" if they were to invent something today, it would not be C. They only invented C to make kernel programming possible in a higher level language.
Back then, people used to say, "a kernel cannot be written in a high level language", they're way to slow....
K&R said "Bah" to that thinking and yes most all kernels today are written in high level languages.
BTW, when I first started using C in 1979, I was using a Nova Computer, running RDOS (Remember Data General anyone). In RDOS, everything was written in assembly language, yes your text editor was written in assebmly language so when Data General came up with a new computer, they get to rewrite everything from scratch......And that was the norm throughout the industry.
So the vast improvement's brought by K&R, have made lots of what we take for granted today, happen.
So yes, using C now, is a little long in the tooth.......
But I wouldn't want to use java to write an interrupt routine.........
Isn't this how smart cards work already?
;)
I thought that smart cards had a tiny chip on them with no power supply, they get the energy to perform the transaction from the antenna built into the card when it's held over the point of sale device.
Which gives it just enough juice to perform the job at hand and then go back to sleep when the card it put away. So we already use it and need it to survive
Personally I welcome our new wireless power overlords......
Pho-toe-shop
that's why I used the word practically......
had to it, hadn't been done yet......
My results confirm yours
Minefield
MD5 Benchmark took 0.71 seconds for 3000 hashes (4225 hashes/second)
MD4 Benchmark took 0.446 seconds for 2700 hashes (6054 hashes/second)
SHA1 Benchmark took 0.721 seconds for 1900 hashes (2635 hashes/second)
Chrome
MD5 Benchmark took 0.411 seconds for 3000 hashes (7299 hashes/second)
MD4 Benchmark took 0.162 seconds for 2700 hashes (16667 hashes/second)
SHA1 Benchmark took 0.18 seconds for 1900 hashes (10556 hashes/second)
and just to laugh IE 7
MD5 Benchmark took 3.885 seconds for 3000 hashes (772 hashes/second)
MD4 Benchmark took 12.473 seconds for 2700 hashes (216 hashes/second)
SHA1 Benchmark took 3.838 seconds for 1900 hashes (495 hashes/second)
All running on Vista with a Intel Core 2 Duo E4600 @ 2.4 GHz
The game Monopoly isn't like home ownership
The game Operation isn't like surgery
The game "The game of Life" isn't like real life
The game Battleship isn't like naval combat.
The game Hungry Hungry Hippos, doesn't accurately reflect the feeding habits of hippos.
that's only true 87.43% of the time!