It does? Last I checked, I used KDE's own Dolphin file browser and the Chromium browser. Can't say I've ever used or even noticed Konqueror since KDE 4 came along.
It does. You and I may never explicitly launch it, but KDE relies on it for something (my Debian system lists it as a dependency of kdebase-apps).
He opted in by commenting on the post. Keeping everyone that is a part of a discussion "in the loop" is consistent with the purpose of social networking.
It isn't Google's fault that jampola chose to reply to a post which received a high signal-to-noise ratio.
No, but 0.x increments are perfectly reasonable. If they use only single-digit increments before rolling over the major release number; they'd average a major version number every two years (six to sixteen weeks between releases, right?)
The only reason Apple were able to get away with it is because by the time they moved to x86 CPUs, the PowerPCs they had been using were falling seriously behind...
This year's Xbox 360 isn't much faster than 2005's Xbox 360.
I'd be all for electric if nuclear power was common, but in my state almost all the energy is produced in coal power plants. I just don't see how that is so much different from burning gasoline.
The coal plant is far more efficient than ICEs.
If the automotive industry is going to undergo a paradigm shift, it should be the best one available, not some half-assed compromise.
Gasoline is deeply entrenched. Replacing it with hydrogen would mean replacing or upgrading the extensive distribution network of gas stations nationwide. It's a messy Catch-22:
Cars are expensive. Nobody will buy hydrogen cars because there aren't any hydrogen gas stations.
Gas stations are expensive. Nobody is going to build or renovate hundreds of stations in order to sell something nobody will buy.
Designing, building, and selling cars is expensive. If nobody is going to buy a hydrogen car, car manufacturers won't try to sell one.
Electric cars can sell simply because the electric grid is already in place. It couldn't handle powering every car in America, but it doesn't need to — yet.
What are you talking about? Seriously, you make no sense. First og all, what does apt have to do with this? Apt works the same way on Debian and Ubuntu, on ARM and Intel. So why would you want to mention that?
He probably meant Debian's package QA/
Then you go on to say that you can always install any package on Debian without considering dependencies.
I don't see where he says anything like that.
That's obviously bullshit. You can use apt pinning in Debian, just as you can in Ubuntu.
He's talking about the releases themselves. Ubuntu picks a major release number of Gnome/KDE/Firefox/LibreOffice/etc, and sticks with it through the entire run of that release. Natty has LibreOffice 3.3.x, and won't ever get LibreOffice 3.4.x in the official channels.
Debian, if I'm understanding him right, doesn't force itself to stick with an old branch simply because "that's the version it was released with"
But since Ubuntu is supported for much longer periods of time.
Debian 5.0 (Lenny) was released in February of '09, and will be supported for a little over three years (April '12).
Ubuntu supports its regular releases for about a year and a half, desktop LTS for three years, and server LTS for 5 years.
And I really didn't get your joke. You mean Debian is stupid because Ubuntu gets all the cows? I don't agree. Debian is nice. Ubuntu is _really_ nice on ARM. Let's just hope Debian can catch up in that field.
The young bull would reach the cows first, but he'll be too worn out for anything but one quickie. The old bull paces himself, and so has a better experience when he gets there.
Ubuntu is the young bull: it tries so hard to keep pace with the new shiny, but the pressure to release quickly doesn't leave much time for working out the bugs. For days (or even weeks) after every Ubuntu release, it seems like every other Ubuntu-related comment is about how $NEW_VERSION broke something that worked just fine in $OLD_VERSION.
Debian isn't in a rush; it'll upgrade when it is ready, and will be more stable when it does. I was getting pretty antsy about how long sid stayed on KDE 4.4, but it finally moved to 4.6 a few weeks ago. My DE got entirely overhauled, and when it was over...it Just Worked(tm). There were no unresolved dependencies. Nothing was crashing. Compare with Unity.;-)
Some sites have choked on the "+", but yeah it works pretty well.
I understand that you can also liberally sprinkle periods throughout your username (ie my.gmail.account@gmail.com) for the same effect.
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Don't you remember Psystar?
The Spiral Minaret
What exactly does Apple forbid?
They don't allow running Apple OSs on non-Apple hardware.
It does? Last I checked, I used KDE's own Dolphin file browser and the Chromium browser. Can't say I've ever used or even noticed Konqueror since KDE 4 came along.
It does. You and I may never explicitly launch it, but KDE relies on it for something (my Debian system lists it as a dependency of kdebase-apps).
...gnome stupidified the desktop to the point I couldn't do WHAT I WANT with my own desktop.
XFCE4 for the win!
WTF? Every time I've used XFCE, it's felt like someone adapted GNOME for the under-5 age group
I saw some at a convenience store the other day. Or at least the package claimed it was toast; looked more like stale bread to me.
While it looks complicated, I think we should have mastered those things pretty well by now.
It's not rocket sci—oh, wait.
Be Inc. appears to have disagreed (PDF).
BeOS
He opted in by commenting on the post. Keeping everyone that is a part of a discussion "in the loop" is consistent with the purpose of social networking.
It isn't Google's fault that jampola chose to reply to a post which received a high signal-to-noise ratio.
No, but 0.x increments are perfectly reasonable. If they use only single-digit increments before rolling over the major release number; they'd average a major version number every two years (six to sixteen weeks between releases, right?)
The only reason Apple were able to get away with it is because by the time they moved to x86 CPUs, the PowerPCs they had been using were falling seriously behind...
This year's Xbox 360 isn't much faster than 2005's Xbox 360.
Not to mention Wine 1.0 and Linux 3
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Got it; thanks!
ditto :-)
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I am so dumping this into Cleverbot.
I assume that would violate trademark or somesuch.
Last time I went without Internet, I wrote my first real bash script. It made my flash drive act like a mini apt repository.
We need to keep tabs on it in order to assess their qualification as an Emergency Fallback option when our native countries become too oppressive.
I'd be all for electric if nuclear power was common, but in my state almost all the energy is produced in coal power plants. I just don't see how that is so much different from burning gasoline.
The coal plant is far more efficient than ICEs.
If the automotive industry is going to undergo a paradigm shift, it should be the best one available, not some half-assed compromise.
Gasoline is deeply entrenched. Replacing it with hydrogen would mean replacing or upgrading the extensive distribution network of gas stations nationwide. It's a messy Catch-22:
Cars are expensive. Nobody will buy hydrogen cars because there aren't any hydrogen gas stations.
Gas stations are expensive. Nobody is going to build or renovate hundreds of stations in order to sell something nobody will buy.
Designing, building, and selling cars is expensive. If nobody is going to buy a hydrogen car, car manufacturers won't try to sell one.
Electric cars can sell simply because the electric grid is already in place. It couldn't handle powering every car in America, but it doesn't need to — yet.
but, there is nothing to justify the judge postponing the hearing in this situation.
The judge didn't postpone the hearing.
They all used to be in the applications and utilities folder.
It's the ones that you don't have that need to be easier to find.
What are you talking about? Seriously, you make no sense. First og all, what does apt have to do with this? Apt works the same way on Debian and Ubuntu, on ARM and Intel. So why would you want to mention that?
He probably meant Debian's package QA/
Then you go on to say that you can always install any package on Debian without considering dependencies.
I don't see where he says anything like that.
That's obviously bullshit. You can use apt pinning in Debian, just as you can in Ubuntu.
He's talking about the releases themselves. Ubuntu picks a major release number of Gnome/KDE/Firefox/LibreOffice/etc, and sticks with it through the entire run of that release. Natty has LibreOffice 3.3.x, and won't ever get LibreOffice 3.4.x in the official channels. Debian, if I'm understanding him right, doesn't force itself to stick with an old branch simply because "that's the version it was released with"
But since Ubuntu is supported for much longer periods of time.
Debian 5.0 (Lenny) was released in February of '09, and will be supported for a little over three years (April '12). Ubuntu supports its regular releases for about a year and a half, desktop LTS for three years, and server LTS for 5 years.
And I really didn't get your joke. You mean Debian is stupid because Ubuntu gets all the cows? I don't agree. Debian is nice. Ubuntu is _really_ nice on ARM. Let's just hope Debian can catch up in that field.
The young bull would reach the cows first, but he'll be too worn out for anything but one quickie. The old bull paces himself, and so has a better experience when he gets there.
Ubuntu is the young bull: it tries so hard to keep pace with the new shiny, but the pressure to release quickly doesn't leave much time for working out the bugs. For days (or even weeks) after every Ubuntu release, it seems like every other Ubuntu-related comment is about how $NEW_VERSION broke something that worked just fine in $OLD_VERSION. ;-)
Debian isn't in a rush; it'll upgrade when it is ready, and will be more stable when it does. I was getting pretty antsy about how long sid stayed on KDE 4.4, but it finally moved to 4.6 a few weeks ago. My DE got entirely overhauled, and when it was over...it Just Worked(tm). There were no unresolved dependencies. Nothing was crashing. Compare with Unity.
Some sites have choked on the "+", but yeah it works pretty well. I understand that you can also liberally sprinkle periods throughout your username (ie my.gmail.account@gmail.com) for the same effect.