See , that's the worst returning bullshit ever . 'i never do anything illegal' means you don't grasp what's happening here. Most people here never do anything illegal nor have they done it nor will they do it. This is about governmental control and citizen's right. What if the police could just come into your house without a warrant just because your stupid neighbour said you were acting suspicious? By then you would be screaming rape and murder but BY THEN IT WILL BE TOO LATE. So please, think for a second. They take away your rights AND they decide what is legal and what's not. Open your eyes and pls don't use the 'i never do something illegal' as an argument.
(and i'm really trying hard to be the friendly nice shepperd here)
nothing good could come from the internet , right ? shall i rest my case already... i hope the American Govt takes a firm stand against anyone helping out countries who o- and repress their own people. But in case of Nokia/Siemens i get the idea they just wondered 'how they could have missed out on such great technology' lol
That's right, anyone who argues pro censorship should be taken out into the rain and shot. What are you ? Some German conservative president ? French maybe ?
Ofcourse not. The fact that both Russia and China welcome Ahmadinejad, who happens to be (like me) a believer in the end-is-near-theory right after the elections in Iran while his militia is battling it out on the streets with the opposition also means nothing. Nothing means anything. As a matter of fact... i didn't say anything either. Just like Barack Hussein Obama... he didn't say anything right ?
i was about to rant but the 'no' is ok lol... someone should explain the benefits of the 'new' media to these ppl. No millions of webpages thrown away everyday on the streets, no webpage that's outdated at the time of print (depending on the author ofc)... no newspaper that can be read / commented / discussed by thousands of ppl at once... etc , i'm sure you people know, but someone is apparently missing the point, or just progress-o-phobic (is there a word for that ?)
You should really take a look at the laws that are being passed in Germany and the laws that the president-king is trying to pass in France. Norway putting it down like this is a bright day for democracy and free speech in Europe. And yea i almost forgot, GB isnt all that good when it comes to respecting privacy either.
exactly my first thought ? they plan to dump it at the bottom of the sea and wait for it to bubble up when they are all nice and cosy in their luxury grave? Like say... nuclear waste ?? (the rest of it that wasn't sold to Iran that is ???)
How can you innovate too much ? They can never innovate too much but 'human' linux distros like Ubuntu are very important to make it accessible for the mainstream user. As with windows, even more with linux, avg desktop users uses only what? 50% of its possibilities and options ? I say go for the future and distill accessibility from what the technomages present us with.
Does anyone know an actual http website with childporn that hasnt been immediately reported. I mean there is this code of honour amongst the worst criminals in the world we call copyright infringers. I still don't understand. Do they want to block porn websites that depict 40 year old women with pigtails and cheerleader outfits because they are supposed to be teens ? I thought these ppl had a liking for words, being the politicians they are maybe they should start learning porn-jargon? There are no open http childporn sites, these filthbags are too smart most of the time and its a VERY restricted community (if that's even a good word for filth like that). It's as smart as Sarkozys Hadopi was. Ppl who are too old to understand what the internet means and are scared because their children don't read dusty books anymore? What's the difference between a book and a webpage ? A book is outdated by the time it hits the shelves, because it's information is not dynamic. A webpage might have gotten new information since maybe a second after you started reading it. A book can be read by one person at one time, if he or she happens to be in the library at the time it was there. A webpage is available everywhere from anywhere for as many people as the webserver can serve. And there's this thing called mirrors.
Yes, i can see why this would scare control freaks, i really do. So someone, please explain your grandpa Sarkozy and grandma Merkel (they must have children right, given the fact they are obviously seriously conservative) that this new internet-thing is not necessarily a bad thing full of lolitaporn that pops up with every click of your mouse
In all the years that i've been surfing the internet i have NEVER . I mean NOT EVER, NOT ONCE encountered a website where childporn is openly available on the internet. This is nothing but a mask to control the flow of information and that makes Merkel no better than the ppl who lead Iran and China. I thought they were gone forever but it seems the Nazi's are back. A VERY, VERY sad day for freedom... we should all move to Sweden where people and consumer rights are actually taken seriously cos if Merkel and Sarkozy get their way with Europe we will soon all have a chip up our European asses.
a very sad day for freedom
that's right, freedom of speech is absolute. You get the right to be an ass, a dick or any other sexual organ you want to be. You can be a troll if you wish, but you will just have to accept the fact that people won't like you for it.
So no one gets access to disney content, and Disney gets nothing... see who bends over first then. First 'obligation' any ISP has (like any company) is to its customers, so (unless you live in Belgium where you can choose between two ISPs only that happen to have the same price for the same limited-beyond-belief-bandwith) who would pay for it? If one isp charges for content you never want to see, and another doesn't that's a pretty simple choice imo. These 'ancient' companies will have to get with the program sooner or later. Look at the warez scene : any hollywood movie is released via a RUSSIAN warez site first, almost 80% of the time. What to do about that? Charge Americans more lol ? Have the CIA scan all collegekids computers to see if they've been hacking it with the commies ? roflmao indeed
There's nothing to understand here, they set out on a course to get money where they can find it, first they try Intel, now it's Microsoft. And i have the feeling that they might go after Google next for some silly reason like let's say uhhh... "It's not because American authors agree that you put their books online, that you can do that in Europe without paying us more than you can gain from it"
And so, it goes on (the recession that is)
i remember when the news broke about this 'new' thing called dvd, it was like a cd that could hold up to 17GB of data... so far i've only seen the 4 and 8gb kind
I hope they figure out, all they have to do is have Sarkozy download 3 mp3s from a spoofed ip... that should take care of his three strikes once and for all after they cut off his internet access and take his 'crimes' to the press, without process ofcourse, after all, it's HIS law (or was it his wifes?)
it didnt even get a chance to be voted on, either my fellow citizens are lazy idiots, or the other parties denied yet another new party its existence... i was thinking about moving to France, but Sweden is starting to look more attractive
lmao , the last one helped too ... doesn't darwin predict the extinction of any who do never adapt their oneway tactics ?
no they're not. I don't care about your law. Court cases are public and therefore not subject to copyright. Anything else is dated vsia
mister hawking, it is because of these 'externals' that we do not evolve. The externals take away the reason for evolving
See , that's the worst returning bullshit ever . 'i never do anything illegal' means you don't grasp what's happening here. Most people here never do anything illegal nor have they done it nor will they do it. This is about governmental control and citizen's right. What if the police could just come into your house without a warrant just because your stupid neighbour said you were acting suspicious? By then you would be screaming rape and murder but BY THEN IT WILL BE TOO LATE. So please, think for a second. They take away your rights AND they decide what is legal and what's not. Open your eyes and pls don't use the 'i never do something illegal' as an argument. (and i'm really trying hard to be the friendly nice shepperd here)
nothing good could come from the internet , right ? shall i rest my case already ... i hope the American Govt takes a firm stand against anyone helping out countries who o- and repress their own people. But in case of Nokia/Siemens i get the idea they just wondered 'how they could have missed out on such great technology' lol
yep ... sad old fool, someone needs to give these people the welcome-to-2009-for-dummies-treatment in a hurry
That's right, anyone who argues pro censorship should be taken out into the rain and shot. What are you ? Some German conservative president ? French maybe ?
Are they part of the ministry of silly walks ?
Ofcourse not. The fact that both Russia and China welcome Ahmadinejad, who happens to be (like me) a believer in the end-is-near-theory right after the elections in Iran while his militia is battling it out on the streets with the opposition also means nothing. Nothing means anything. As a matter of fact ... i didn't say anything either. Just like Barack Hussein Obama ... he didn't say anything right ?
that he is so important that he gets newscoverage because of a liver transplant , and even more, no matter who he is. Does he WANT that attention ?
i was about to rant but the 'no' is ok lol ... someone should explain the benefits of the 'new' media to these ppl. No millions of webpages thrown away everyday on the streets, no webpage that's outdated at the time of print (depending on the author ofc) ... no newspaper that can be read / commented / discussed by thousands of ppl at once ... etc , i'm sure you people know, but someone is apparently missing the point, or just progress-o-phobic (is there a word for that ?)
You should really take a look at the laws that are being passed in Germany and the laws that the president-king is trying to pass in France. Norway putting it down like this is a bright day for democracy and free speech in Europe. And yea i almost forgot, GB isnt all that good when it comes to respecting privacy either.
exactly my first thought ? they plan to dump it at the bottom of the sea and wait for it to bubble up when they are all nice and cosy in their luxury grave? Like say ... nuclear waste ?? (the rest of it that wasn't sold to Iran that is ???)
How can you innovate too much ? They can never innovate too much but 'human' linux distros like Ubuntu are very important to make it accessible for the mainstream user. As with windows, even more with linux, avg desktop users uses only what? 50% of its possibilities and options ? I say go for the future and distill accessibility from what the technomages present us with.
aye (what ... just aye)
Does anyone know an actual http website with childporn that hasnt been immediately reported. I mean there is this code of honour amongst the worst criminals in the world we call copyright infringers. I still don't understand. Do they want to block porn websites that depict 40 year old women with pigtails and cheerleader outfits because they are supposed to be teens ? I thought these ppl had a liking for words, being the politicians they are maybe they should start learning porn-jargon? There are no open http childporn sites, these filthbags are too smart most of the time and its a VERY restricted community (if that's even a good word for filth like that). It's as smart as Sarkozys Hadopi was. Ppl who are too old to understand what the internet means and are scared because their children don't read dusty books anymore? What's the difference between a book and a webpage ? A book is outdated by the time it hits the shelves, because it's information is not dynamic. A webpage might have gotten new information since maybe a second after you started reading it. A book can be read by one person at one time, if he or she happens to be in the library at the time it was there. A webpage is available everywhere from anywhere for as many people as the webserver can serve. And there's this thing called mirrors. Yes, i can see why this would scare control freaks, i really do. So someone, please explain your grandpa Sarkozy and grandma Merkel (they must have children right, given the fact they are obviously seriously conservative) that this new internet-thing is not necessarily a bad thing full of lolitaporn that pops up with every click of your mouse
In all the years that i've been surfing the internet i have NEVER . I mean NOT EVER, NOT ONCE encountered a website where childporn is openly available on the internet. This is nothing but a mask to control the flow of information and that makes Merkel no better than the ppl who lead Iran and China. I thought they were gone forever but it seems the Nazi's are back. A VERY, VERY sad day for freedom ... we should all move to Sweden where people and consumer rights are actually taken seriously cos if Merkel and Sarkozy get their way with Europe we will soon all have a chip up our European asses.
a very sad day for freedom
what's his name? FUCK YOU (yes, very subtle, i have to admit, but considering what's happening, subtlety doesn't seem to help)
that's right, freedom of speech is absolute. You get the right to be an ass, a dick or any other sexual organ you want to be. You can be a troll if you wish, but you will just have to accept the fact that people won't like you for it.
So no one gets access to disney content, and Disney gets nothing ... see who bends over first then. First 'obligation' any ISP has (like any company) is to its customers, so (unless you live in Belgium where you can choose between two ISPs only that happen to have the same price for the same limited-beyond-belief-bandwith) who would pay for it? If one isp charges for content you never want to see, and another doesn't that's a pretty simple choice imo. These 'ancient' companies will have to get with the program sooner or later. Look at the warez scene : any hollywood movie is released via a RUSSIAN warez site first, almost 80% of the time. What to do about that? Charge Americans more lol ? Have the CIA scan all collegekids computers to see if they've been hacking it with the commies ? roflmao indeed
There's nothing to understand here, they set out on a course to get money where they can find it, first they try Intel, now it's Microsoft. And i have the feeling that they might go after Google next for some silly reason like let's say uhhh ... "It's not because American authors agree that you put their books online, that you can do that in Europe without paying us more than you can gain from it"
And so, it goes on (the recession that is)
i remember when the news broke about this 'new' thing called dvd, it was like a cd that could hold up to 17GB of data ... so far i've only seen the 4 and 8gb kind
I hope they figure out, all they have to do is have Sarkozy download 3 mp3s from a spoofed ip ... that should take care of his three strikes once and for all after they cut off his internet access and take his 'crimes' to the press, without process ofcourse, after all, it's HIS law (or was it his wifes?)
doesn't matter if the Chinese get orbital control first we're fucked anyway
it didnt even get a chance to be voted on, either my fellow citizens are lazy idiots, or the other parties denied yet another new party its existence ... i was thinking about moving to France, but Sweden is starting to look more attractive