You're compairing the downtime costs of a rarely visited website for a cult with that of one of the biggest financial presences on the internet?... oooookay then, whatever you think proves your point I guess...
And I'm not condoning his behavior... kids a moron. Key thing is this: KIDS ARE FUCKING MORONS! You don't put a kid in jail for it, that's stupid. You think putting him in prison is going to be an improvement to society? You think that a court case, fine, community service, and record of it isn't quite enough to get it into his head he screwed up big? Only way to drive the point home is to put him IN PRISON for a year and a half?
I don't know if you've ever been to court before, maybe on a traffic ticket, or similar... you damn well know how serious an issue is while you're there. Damn near any real sentence and a firm warning would have done a crap load more good not only for the kid, but society as a whole. He's going to be a much more productive and useful person if you get his ass into college then if you throw him in with rapists and killers.
Continue to argue your side if you want, but do you really think this kid for screwing off one weekend and doing something stupid which effected 1 website for a day or two is as bad as trying to solicit a 13 year old girl, or rigging an election, or forcing your daughter to stab her pet cat... because those were all about the same sentences he's going in for.
Anyone stupid enough to join of their own free will isn't my problem... however people who have been cut off from their family, or WANT out do need to know they aren't the only ones who thinks there's something wrong with the cult.
I'm not going to argue about this, as no one has ever, EVER, EVER had their mind changed by what someone said online... ever. Everyone assumes the 10 minutes of glancing over one side of an issue qualifys them as an expert... and they're free to feel that way if they want... that's one of the many joys of freedom. Though it doesn't make them correct on anything..
The only difference between that and cutting the line would be the bandwidth costs, which would be countered by line repair costs.
If you honestly believe a person deserves 1.5 years in prison for this you're damaged. It was some kid doing what amounts to vandalism. ANY amount of prison is overkill and more damaging to society then helpful. He should get probation at worst, a fine and community service.
You honestly have no grasp of justice if a year and a half of your life is the price to pay for shutting down a website for a day. I'm guessing you're the kind who would put a highschool kid in jail for a year for taking a bat to a mailbox too eh?
To beat this silly test, just ask it something that requires reasoning and thought... if it's a human you're set.
The day I see a computer answer this, I'll pay attention:
"Alright, to prove you're human do this. Take the word Tmbtieps, change every letter to the one before it alphabetically, and then tell me the word. Say only that one word. Take your time."
Come on, the Second Amendment isn't about shooting politicians, despite the Slashdot bias towards that little chunk of Libertarian mythology.
Why is it whenever I see the terms for liberal used in a derogatory way the comments are always wrong? Just an observation...
Anyway, my point. 2nd amendment is: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
That really doesn't sound like maintaining slavery to me.
Maybe I'm wrong, lets ask someone who knows a bit more on the subject then us shall we?
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." -- George Washington (who is a Grade A Badass) January 8, 1790, First State of the Union Address
I don't like guns at all, and would love to see them gone... however I dislike people who bend history to their own ends more.
Fortunatly with this 700 Billion dollars my departments work on brainwashing people into thinking they are brainwashing people who are brainwashing people will have all the funding it needs!
We no longer have control of our country. Those in power have claimed america... 1/3 are too stupid to know, 1/3 are too tired to care, and 1/3 are too outnumbered to try.
Don't hate us all, a lot of us know what's happening and can't stop it. We know why your gov's hate us, we know why your people hate us...
not to mention him going on for ages about how having a party system would ultimently kill us... or fixating on a specific forign country would kill us... or a dozen other things.
Ending your genetic chain isn't a victory... having kids that will bring the fucking thing down is... or growing the balls to bring it down for your kids.
Well that's why they attacked the ideas of liberals before doing it... now thinking like that is 'crazy hippy crap, the guv't isn't spying on you, there are terrorists!'...
Attack the idea of opposition before it opposes you
we spend 50% of the worlds military budget and whine about a dwindling military.
How do you read that? How do you justify it in our current state? And no one could get elected on the idea of disbanding 3/4 of our military (we'd still be out ahead of the rest)
For the love of god, it's RIGHT THERE. Doesn't anyone read this thing? The document is beutiful to read, and powerful. For the good of yourself as a person sit the hell down and read this document that grants you your freedoms.
You know, I feel like a damn hippy bitching 'they're taking our rights', but you f-king know what? THEY ARE. We were warned since our very first president exactly how this would play out, and dispite the warnings of those greatest men this country has ever seen, we've let every one of their predictions come true without batting an eyelash. And I'm mad as hell not only at the government for thinking they can do that, but for the failed people of this nation who turn in their libertys like pokemon cards every time the words "Terrorist", "9/11", and "Family Values" appear in a speech.
Atlas is a long book, and worth your time. You have to remember when the book was written for it all to make sense, however the contrasts between the book and our society are creepy and accurate.
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You're compairing the downtime costs of a rarely visited website for a cult with that of one of the biggest financial presences on the internet?... oooookay then, whatever you think proves your point I guess...
And I'm not condoning his behavior... kids a moron. Key thing is this: KIDS ARE FUCKING MORONS! You don't put a kid in jail for it, that's stupid. You think putting him in prison is going to be an improvement to society? You think that a court case, fine, community service, and record of it isn't quite enough to get it into his head he screwed up big? Only way to drive the point home is to put him IN PRISON for a year and a half?
I don't know if you've ever been to court before, maybe on a traffic ticket, or similar... you damn well know how serious an issue is while you're there. Damn near any real sentence and a firm warning would have done a crap load more good not only for the kid, but society as a whole. He's going to be a much more productive and useful person if you get his ass into college then if you throw him in with rapists and killers.
Continue to argue your side if you want, but do you really think this kid for screwing off one weekend and doing something stupid which effected 1 website for a day or two is as bad as trying to solicit a 13 year old girl, or rigging an election, or forcing your daughter to stab her pet cat... because those were all about the same sentences he's going in for.
Anyone stupid enough to join of their own free will isn't my problem... however people who have been cut off from their family, or WANT out do need to know they aren't the only ones who thinks there's something wrong with the cult.
I'm not going to argue about this, as no one has ever, EVER, EVER had their mind changed by what someone said online... ever. Everyone assumes the 10 minutes of glancing over one side of an issue qualifys them as an expert... and they're free to feel that way if they want... that's one of the many joys of freedom. Though it doesn't make them correct on anything..
The only difference between that and cutting the line would be the bandwidth costs, which would be countered by line repair costs.
If you honestly believe a person deserves 1.5 years in prison for this you're damaged. It was some kid doing what amounts to vandalism. ANY amount of prison is overkill and more damaging to society then helpful. He should get probation at worst, a fine and community service.
You honestly have no grasp of justice if a year and a half of your life is the price to pay for shutting down a website for a day. I'm guessing you're the kind who would put a highschool kid in jail for a year for taking a bat to a mailbox too eh?
Punishment must fit the crime.
It's okay, there will be a non DRM version out. In fact I hear it's cheaper
In related news, 99.8% of people don't plan ahead or read
As a side note to this, I accept that some humans couldn't pass this test... and I'm comfortable with them no longer being consitered human. :)
To beat this silly test, just ask it something that requires reasoning and thought... if it's a human you're set.
The day I see a computer answer this, I'll pay attention:
"Alright, to prove you're human do this. Take the word Tmbtieps, change every letter to the one before it alphabetically, and then tell me the word. Say only that one word. Take your time."
I see your "TV is less stupid" and raise you "Paris Hilton BFF" and "Real World"
give it a few years, as the value of the dollar bottoms out, we'll all be millionairs
When the ratio of leechers and parisites against the working few becomes unsustainable, atlas must shrugg
go go plausible denibility!
I wonder how much different the world would have turned out if people were required to read the documents that keep them free. Read and understand.
Why is it whenever I see the terms for liberal used in a derogatory way the comments are always wrong? Just an observation...
Anyway, my point. 2nd amendment is:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
That really doesn't sound like maintaining slavery to me.
Maybe I'm wrong, lets ask someone who knows a bit more on the subject then us shall we?
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
-- George Washington (who is a Grade A Badass) January 8, 1790, First State of the Union Address
I don't like guns at all, and would love to see them gone... however I dislike people who bend history to their own ends more.
Fortunatly with this 700 Billion dollars my departments work on brainwashing people into thinking they are brainwashing people who are brainwashing people will have all the funding it needs!
You know two things that should be mentioned...
#1 - Gandhi wouldn't have cared that they skipped him for the prize, he would have rather it been given to someone else anyway.
#2 - That's all the more reason this man deserved it.
we are pissed, it doesn't matter...
We no longer have control of our country. Those in power have claimed america... 1/3 are too stupid to know, 1/3 are too tired to care, and 1/3 are too outnumbered to try.
Don't hate us all, a lot of us know what's happening and can't stop it. We know why your gov's hate us, we know why your people hate us...
Help us.
not to mention him going on for ages about how having a party system would ultimently kill us... or fixating on a specific forign country would kill us... or a dozen other things.
So few people actually make that distinction that I've quit arguing the point, good to see someone reads
Ending your genetic chain isn't a victory... having kids that will bring the fucking thing down is... or growing the balls to bring it down for your kids.
Well that's why they attacked the ideas of liberals before doing it... now thinking like that is 'crazy hippy crap, the guv't isn't spying on you, there are terrorists!'... Attack the idea of opposition before it opposes you
we spend 50% of the worlds military budget and whine about a dwindling military.
How do you read that? How do you justify it in our current state? And no one could get elected on the idea of disbanding 3/4 of our military (we'd still be out ahead of the rest)
the right of the people peaceably to assemble
For the love of god, it's RIGHT THERE. Doesn't anyone read this thing? The document is beutiful to read, and powerful. For the good of yourself as a person sit the hell down and read this document that grants you your freedoms.
You know, I feel like a damn hippy bitching 'they're taking our rights', but you f-king know what? THEY ARE. We were warned since our very first president exactly how this would play out, and dispite the warnings of those greatest men this country has ever seen, we've let every one of their predictions come true without batting an eyelash. And I'm mad as hell not only at the government for thinking they can do that, but for the failed people of this nation who turn in their libertys like pokemon cards every time the words "Terrorist", "9/11", and "Family Values" appear in a speech.
(/rant)
insert "Who watches the watchers" argument
Atlas is a long book, and worth your time. You have to remember when the book was written for it all to make sense, however the contrasts between the book and our society are creepy and accurate.
because it's relevent to the conversation, and most americans can't read more then 3 lines of text before bitching about it.
;)
Oh, wait... sorry.