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it costs a LOT more money than you probably think to get 100 people and run a controlled study,... which in reality involves usually thousands of animals, several phases of toxicology testing, piloting production processes, and many et ceteras before those human trials even get approved,...).
And that is part of the problem and why it cost so much - use of methodologies which have no significant scientific application.
Which animal is anatomically, physiologically, immunologically, genetically and histologically identical to a human? None.
Monkeys/chimps may be a close relation, but strychnine isn't fatal to them as it is for humans. Testing pharmacueticals destined for human use on animals is a useless practice and throws science out the window - this is sanctioned quackery and much worse than any 'alternative medicine.' Which may in fact have real value, even if it's only the placebo effect which leads to the body healing itself via the immune system doing its job without the patient adding to the overall stress on the body by worrying about how sick they are. Certainly the FDA with all it's regulations is not much of a help in verifying the actual safety of many things.
You hit the nail on the head though, it's about making money. Tongue of newt could be the greatest thing since aspirin or penicillin (either of which anyone could technically get on their own from nature) but it will never be approved and given the official FDA nod in such a form simply because the money wasn't spent to adhere to the regulations, therefore no money could be made on it. So the wonder miracle cure achieved from tongue of newt would never be seen as anything but quackery and would forever be relegated to the realm of alternative medicine.
Quite simply because it's something to bicker over and try to reaffirm one's own beliefs which in this case happen to have no solid proof by which to support those beliefs on either side no matter how much they blabber on. This is not unlike many other "issues" that politicians/media/etc. bring up about various candidates.
Technically one could argue that the educational opinions of anyone in D.C., much less the White House, has no bearing on anything whatsoever since public education is the responsibility of State and local governments and not that of the Federal Government. The mere existence of the Dept. of Ed. itself is constitutionally questionable. From what I recall there is no mention of education in the US Constitution so Congress has not been given any such authority. Meanwhile education is mentioned in at least most, if not all, State constitutions.
What some candidate thinks regarding the origin of our species, the existence of aliens, which OS is better, etc. is completely irrelevant. But of course candidates views on issues which, if elected, they will have the ability to affect are ignored. Nothing new here.
Seeing as how my comment was in reference to the common points being made on the topic and such this doesn't really deserve a reply, but what the hell...
I guess this would also be the same set that only think they can drive with passengers? Or would that be some theoretical other set?
After you've gotten all passenger seating removed from any vehicle on the road you might want to talk to DOT or whoever about getting a ban on CB radios in vehicles too.
Well, the modding is off here: if parent is 0 OT, certainly GP is also, not +5 Informative.
That said, I would have to agree with parent post.
By the GP logic; if someone thinks it's okay to drive with any passenger in the vehicle, they should turn in their license and not drive at all.
If one can be so distracted by conversation with a passenger (or by having a child or three crying/whining/carrying-on/incessantly-questioning-everything/etc. in the back seat) why would such a person be so irresponsible as to think they could drive?
Granted, there are some people that fit into this overly broad sweeping generalization that so many believe and/or want everyone else to believe, but reality is a hard concept to grasp for many.
You've left off: Some people can actually drive and talk on a phone at the same time, and/or have enough sense to know when the concentration required for one exceeds their ability to focus on both at the same time.
But I haven't scrolled down and now don't have to.:)
Krugman explained there is more to trade than simple comparative advantage - Japan and Germany don't make and sell cars the world over because engines grow on tree in their soil. That's the work cited for prize.
Well damn, if I knew I could get a Nobel prize for simply pointing out rather obvious facts that most people of at least average intelligence are already aware of...
Sure they want to give credit to people that can't pay their bills. How else would they get in on that government bailout action? Getting a chunk of tax dollars from people that aren't even their customers doesn't even require spending on the ad/marketing budget.
Of course they would prefer if their customers would pay their bills, hopefully at the highest interest rate rather than within the interest-free grace period, but....
The right of publicity only applies to commercial exploitation.
... and a blog absolutely cannot be considered commercial exploitation??
How many of them are there that aren't loaded with ads, etc.? Semantics argument maybe, but still enough to make a legal point I would think. Of course the context in which the image was used could make some difference also, I suppose.
1) create new "open source" license restricted to use on windows only
2) release software under this license
3) wait for some piece of the code to show up in software on some other OS.
4) sue for copyright violation
5) PROFIT!!
For bonus points:
?) optionally include other open source licensed code in the software
?) sue the author of the other open source code for violating the MS license by continuing to use code that has been re-released under the MS "open source" license.
?) PROFIT!!!
I think the origin of life topic in general belongs in a class on philosophy, right alongside the "why are we here?/meaning of life" topic. Both Creationism and the idea that intelligent life evolved from a puddle of goo (Darwinism?) (or that we migrated from another dimension or that dolphins created us to amuse themselves and feed them fish) are topics of philosophical debate.
Evolution as a scientific subject covering 'survival of the fittest' and 'adaption of species' I think is fine, but as far as the origin of life it falls into the unprovable theory category. This I believe is where much of the controversy on the origin of life education topic arises; all too often the theory is presented as scientific proven gospel truth rather than as a theory based on many different hypotheses, none of which have been proven.
As an aside, my question basically has always been "if life 'evolved' from a seemingly random collection of chemicals, elements, etc., why is it not still happening or what made it stop? Shouldn't there be some other (similar?) form of life or model of this process on other planets even in our own solar system?
Just like I "stole" all those files and databases when I quit, because they happened to exist on all those server backup tapes that I took home when the backup tape medium used in servers changed. So rather than see perfectly good tapes that were suitable for my home backups thrown into a dumpster (where they could have been stolen), I reused them for my own backup system.
Ground based cooling tubes - air or water - (the common terms are what earth tubes, geothermal?) is certainly a cheaper to run alternative, but the initial cost could be prohibitive. Such solutions make more sense to implement in the initial design and construction of a building and I imagine retrofitting could be entirely impossible for some places.
Then there's always evaporative cooling which as I understand costs less to run than traditional AC, but is more suited to certain geographic locations than it is to others and can be rather expensive to begin with.
Since Diebold^H^H^H^H^H^H^H err Premier... oh whatever they are called now machines are still in use in many places, vote by absentee ballot. AFAIK, in Maryland the machines used are the type with no paper trail and apparently legislation has been passed to change that (don't recall whether it is just to have a paper trail for the machines or some other alternative) but the legislation doesn't mean anything because they won't provide funding to make it work. Or at least that's the last excuse I heard.
Are there enough voting nerds that would make it a significant increase in the number of absentee votes to make headlines? Probably not. Maybe some marketing type could come up with someway of getting say one of the YouTube videos showing how easy it is to hack a Diebold into a 'vote absentee' ad campaign.
Umm... the Shocking Truth of How Banks and Credit Bureaus Help Cyber Crooks Steal Your Money and Identity ? oooh ahhh
I didn't even bother to read the summary which seems to be topic for the majority of posts so far. Sensationalist title might get the average Joe interested, but I tend to think most of the./ crowd are already quite well aware of "how banks and credit bureaus help cyber crooks steal your money and identity" and it's not all that shocking.
Hell, a book with that title could probably consist of nothing more than./ comments which are related to the subject.
I recall seeing it in the mid 90's... ah, according to wikipedia it was released in 95, and on freshmeat it showed up in 2000, last update being in 2006. I also remember SAINT, which came out in 98, but I'm more familiar with Nessus which also first came out in 98.
A major news agency[apparently a link to an ABC story in blog] points out that the vice presidential candidate's longtime advisor and campaign fundraiser, Chicago attorney Joseph Cari, was indicted in 2005 for helping the convicted Syrian fundraiser (Antoin Rezko) who bankrolled Obama's political career operate a massive kickback scheme.
Not that this necessarily means Biden was part of the scheme, but it certainly looks suspicious. Another in the looks suspiciousTM category is the fact that Biden's son is the DE AG.
What does any of this mean? Hell if I know, I'm not that interested in the two-sides-of-the-same-coin candidates. In any case, corruption seems to be an all too common unfortunate side effect of being involved in politics for a long time (being a career politician). There is certainly some truth to the oft quoted saying of Lord Acton(?) that power corrupts... etc. While it may not "be fair," saying one is corrupt simply because of being in a position of power rather goes with the territory, particularly when one doesn't have a clear record to the contrary, and more especially when they are associated in any way with questionable actions.
Just as an aside, like what appears to a fairly high percentage of/.ers, I personally don't care for either Obama or McCain and think they're both bad choices.
Really! Even when I was a kid we had to play with configs for hours just to get a network stack loaded, much less a Netware login prompt, even on cards based on the same chipset from different manufacters. And we thought it was fun!
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And that is part of the problem and why it cost so much - use of methodologies which have no significant scientific application.
Which animal is anatomically, physiologically, immunologically, genetically and histologically identical to a human? None.
Monkeys/chimps may be a close relation, but strychnine isn't fatal to them as it is for humans. Testing pharmacueticals destined for human use on animals is a useless practice and throws science out the window - this is sanctioned quackery and much worse than any 'alternative medicine.' Which may in fact have real value, even if it's only the placebo effect which leads to the body healing itself via the immune system doing its job without the patient adding to the overall stress on the body by worrying about how sick they are. Certainly the FDA with all it's regulations is not much of a help in verifying the actual safety of many things.
You hit the nail on the head though, it's about making money. Tongue of newt could be the greatest thing since aspirin or penicillin (either of which anyone could technically get on their own from nature) but it will never be approved and given the official FDA nod in such a form simply because the money wasn't spent to adhere to the regulations, therefore no money could be made on it. So the wonder miracle cure achieved from tongue of newt would never be seen as anything but quackery and would forever be relegated to the realm of alternative medicine.
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It's really all about FreeCiv.
Quite simply because it's something to bicker over and try to reaffirm one's own beliefs which in this case happen to have no solid proof by which to support those beliefs on either side no matter how much they blabber on. This is not unlike many other "issues" that politicians/media/etc. bring up about various candidates.
Technically one could argue that the educational opinions of anyone in D.C., much less the White House, has no bearing on anything whatsoever since public education is the responsibility of State and local governments and not that of the Federal Government. The mere existence of the Dept. of Ed. itself is constitutionally questionable. From what I recall there is no mention of education in the US Constitution so Congress has not been given any such authority. Meanwhile education is mentioned in at least most, if not all, State constitutions.
What some candidate thinks regarding the origin of our species, the existence of aliens, which OS is better, etc. is completely irrelevant. But of course candidates views on issues which, if elected, they will have the ability to affect are ignored. Nothing new here.
Seeing as how my comment was in reference to the common points being made on the topic and such this doesn't really deserve a reply, but what the hell...
I guess this would also be the same set that only think they can drive with passengers? Or would that be some theoretical other set?
After you've gotten all passenger seating removed from any vehicle on the road you might want to talk to DOT or whoever about getting a ban on CB radios in vehicles too.
That said, I would have to agree with parent post.
By the GP logic; if someone thinks it's okay to drive with any passenger in the vehicle, they should turn in their license and not drive at all.
If one can be so distracted by conversation with a passenger (or by having a child or three crying/whining/carrying-on/incessantly-questioning-everything/etc. in the back seat) why would such a person be so irresponsible as to think they could drive?
Granted, there are some people that fit into this overly broad sweeping generalization that so many believe and/or want everyone else to believe, but reality is a hard concept to grasp for many.
Right. People ride trains at train speeds. And riding in planes are done at plane speeds. It's all totally different, see?
Or maybe we're talking about some other or different kind of train.
You've left off: Some people can actually drive and talk on a phone at the same time, and/or have enough sense to know when the concentration required for one exceeds their ability to focus on both at the same time. :)
But I haven't scrolled down and now don't have to.
Krugman explained there is more to trade than simple comparative advantage - Japan and Germany don't make and sell cars the world over because engines grow on tree in their soil. That's the work cited for prize.
Well damn, if I knew I could get a Nobel prize for simply pointing out rather obvious facts that most people of at least average intelligence are already aware of...
Sure they want to give credit to people that can't pay their bills. How else would they get in on that government bailout action? Getting a chunk of tax dollars from people that aren't even their customers doesn't even require spending on the ad/marketing budget.
Of course they would prefer if their customers would pay their bills, hopefully at the highest interest rate rather than within the interest-free grace period, but....
The right of publicity only applies to commercial exploitation.
... and a blog absolutely cannot be considered commercial exploitation??
How many of them are there that aren't loaded with ads, etc.? Semantics argument maybe, but still enough to make a legal point I would think. Of course the context in which the image was used could make some difference also, I suppose.
1) create new "open source" license restricted to use on windows only
2) release software under this license
3) wait for some piece of the code to show up in software on some other OS.
4) sue for copyright violation
5) PROFIT!!
For bonus points:
?) optionally include other open source licensed code in the software
?) sue the author of the other open source code for violating the MS license by continuing to use code that has been re-released under the MS "open source" license.
?) PROFIT!!!
I'm still using an A2000 and don't mess with anything else, you insensitive clod!
I coulda been a contender for a 5 digit UID too.... ah well. As it is, my other UID is still a low 6 digit one. :)
New research concludes that water is typically wet.
I think the origin of life topic in general belongs in a class on philosophy, right alongside the "why are we here?/meaning of life" topic. Both Creationism and the idea that intelligent life evolved from a puddle of goo (Darwinism?) (or that we migrated from another dimension or that dolphins created us to amuse themselves and feed them fish) are topics of philosophical debate.
Evolution as a scientific subject covering 'survival of the fittest' and 'adaption of species' I think is fine, but as far as the origin of life it falls into the unprovable theory category. This I believe is where much of the controversy on the origin of life education topic arises; all too often the theory is presented as scientific proven gospel truth rather than as a theory based on many different hypotheses, none of which have been proven.
As an aside, my question basically has always been "if life 'evolved' from a seemingly random collection of chemicals, elements, etc., why is it not still happening or what made it stop? Shouldn't there be some other (similar?) form of life or model of this process on other planets even in our own solar system?
The first rule of online fighting games is you don't talk about online fighting games!?
Just like I "stole" all those files and databases when I quit, because they happened to exist on all those server backup tapes that I took home when the backup tape medium used in servers changed. So rather than see perfectly good tapes that were suitable for my home backups thrown into a dumpster (where they could have been stolen), I reused them for my own backup system.
Ground based cooling tubes - air or water - (the common terms are what earth tubes, geothermal?) is certainly a cheaper to run alternative, but the initial cost could be prohibitive. Such solutions make more sense to implement in the initial design and construction of a building and I imagine retrofitting could be entirely impossible for some places.
Then there's always evaporative cooling which as I understand costs less to run than traditional AC, but is more suited to certain geographic locations than it is to others and can be rather expensive to begin with.
Since Diebold^H^H^H^H^H^H^H err Premier... oh whatever they are called now machines are still in use in many places, vote by absentee ballot. AFAIK, in Maryland the machines used are the type with no paper trail and apparently legislation has been passed to change that (don't recall whether it is just to have a paper trail for the machines or some other alternative) but the legislation doesn't mean anything because they won't provide funding to make it work. Or at least that's the last excuse I heard.
Are there enough voting nerds that would make it a significant increase in the number of absentee votes to make headlines? Probably not. Maybe some marketing type could come up with someway of getting say one of the YouTube videos showing how easy it is to hack a Diebold into a 'vote absentee' ad campaign.
Umm... the Shocking Truth of How Banks and Credit Bureaus Help Cyber Crooks Steal Your Money and Identity ? oooh ahhh
I didn't even bother to read the summary which seems to be topic for the majority of posts so far. Sensationalist title might get the average Joe interested, but I tend to think most of the ./ crowd are already quite well aware of "how banks and credit bureaus help cyber crooks steal your money and identity" and it's not all that shocking.
Hell, a book with that title could probably consist of nothing more than ./ comments which are related to the subject.
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I recall seeing it in the mid 90's... ah, according to wikipedia it was released in 95, and on freshmeat it showed up in 2000, last update being in 2006. I also remember SAINT, which came out in 98, but I'm more familiar with Nessus which also first came out in 98.
Or maybe Biden was chosen for involvement in something that apparently just showed up on the Judicial Watch blog today.
Excerpt:
A major news agency[apparently a link to an ABC story in blog] points out that the vice presidential candidate's longtime advisor and campaign fundraiser, Chicago attorney Joseph Cari, was indicted in 2005 for helping the convicted Syrian fundraiser (Antoin Rezko) who bankrolled Obama's political career operate a massive kickback scheme.
Not that this necessarily means Biden was part of the scheme, but it certainly looks suspicious. Another in the looks suspiciousTM category is the fact that Biden's son is the DE AG.
What does any of this mean? Hell if I know, I'm not that interested in the two-sides-of-the-same-coin candidates. In any case, corruption seems to be an all too common unfortunate side effect of being involved in politics for a long time (being a career politician). There is certainly some truth to the oft quoted saying of Lord Acton(?) that power corrupts... etc. While it may not "be fair," saying one is corrupt simply because of being in a position of power rather goes with the territory, particularly when one doesn't have a clear record to the contrary, and more especially when they are associated in any way with questionable actions.
Just as an aside, like what appears to a fairly high percentage of /.ers, I personally don't care for either Obama or McCain and think they're both bad choices.
Really! Even when I was a kid we had to play with configs for hours just to get a network stack loaded, much less a Netware login prompt, even on cards based on the same chipset from different manufacters. And we thought it was fun!
shhh.. The logical flaws contributed to the technical flaws, but there's no money in blaming the logical flaws, now hush.