He types the link thats in the story and works just fine, and gets modded up as informative?
The link was originally broken when the story was first published, due to bad HTML. The editors have since corrected the link. The comment in question was posted while the link was still malformed, which explains why it was modded up.
Wait, with XP and the ability to get raw socket access, we're in trouble anyway.
OT, but here we go. You know, with the increasing ease of creating a worm or a virus that can take over a machine, kill routers, flood mailservers, etc., how long will it be before computers start getting treated like cars? i.e. They have their purposes, but you need to have a license to use one legally.
Frankly, I'm just waiting until this happens, or rather until someone at least proposes the idea in a bill. Of course, if the CBDTPA passes, we essentially wouldn't have computers anymore anyway.
Is there any information on whom to contact to become part of the class action? Does one just contact the legal firm suing the record companies and inquire there? Thanks.
Well, I'm not sure about this lawsuit in particular, but I do know that other firms are planning class action suits as well.
If you would like to join an upcoming class-action, here is some useful information for you (from Check Heffner).
"Larry Feldman of the law firm Feldman & Rifkin (www.leflaw.net) is in the process of filing a class-action lawsuit against the major 5 record labels - Sony, BMG, Universal, EMI and Warner Brothers. Please write Larry directly at leflaw@leflaw.com.
Larry is looking for the problems you have had with a suspected corrupt CD. Please include this information if you write him:
1. Your name and contact e-mail address
2. Your city and state
3. The CD artist and album name
4. Where you bought the CD (store name, city and state)
5. Your CD experience. Were you able to copy your CD to MP3 or another CD? What software did you use? The more details you can share about your corrupt CD, the better.
This has been tried, and it failed. You're assuming that the average consumer/user out there actually CARES about technological superiority. They don't. IE is "good enough", and it already comes installed on everything known to man, including damned internet-ready refrigerators. For your AVERAGE consumer something has to be exponentially better before they will eschew it in favor of the bundled item. Netscape fought against this and look what happened to them. I'm not going to debate the legality of what MS did to Netscape because that's not the topic here, but suffice to say that I don't think there's ANYTHING Mozilla could possibly bring to the table that would reverse the current trend, unless they found a way to have it read minds and present holographic interactive representations of supermodels for your pleasure.
While I see where you are coming from, I have to disagree. Look at Quicken, for instance. Microsoft fought that piece of software with MS Money for quite a long time, tooth & nail on several occasions. And on certain fronts, MS Money was as good as Quicken. However, Quicken still maintains almost 80% of the home finance market. Despite MS's attempts at bundling MS Money with MS Works, despite their discounts on it with purchases of MS office. Quicken does one thing, and it does it extremely well, and consumers know that. They really do care if it Quicken or not.
By that same token, I think consumers will really care about their browsers. I honestly think that IE won a lot of the market share because NS4 and especially NS6 were slow & buggy. (Of course, having the browser built inot the OS helps too). MS did have the better product, but they don't anymore. If AOL goes to a Netscape browser, and the consumers find the new features, the tabbed browsing, etc., I think there is a good chance of them not wanting to go back to IE. I was just speaking to a friend of mine who uses AOL earlier tonight, and she, albeit a textbook case of an AOL user, was asking me about other browsers because she had heard about some recent security holes in IE (e.g. Gopher hole).
There is a movement growing out there, and believe it not, AOL could be the best chance we geeks have to get an Open-Source browser back into the market.
Would you choose an X-Box at the new reduced price that could play DiVX you downloaded from the 'net or a regular DVD player with region controls and CSS?
Considering you still need to buy an add-on for the XBox to play DVDs, the price is back over $200. For that price, you can get a region-free DVD player that plays VCDs, SVCDs, MP3 Disks, and has better audio & video out options than the XBox. (Like the Daewoo 5700, which costs $150)
I seriously don't know anyone who would buy an XBox instead of a regular DVD player, when Xboxes don't offer as many features, or (IMHO) don't look nearly as nice as a standalone DVD player.
Next thing you know, they'll drop support for 75 baud cradle modems. Damn Microsoft! Damn them all to hell!!!!
The sarcasm and humor in the parent post aside, this is a very serious issue.
I think most of us know that Gopher is not used very much anymore, so MS supporters are definitely downplaying this hole. However, by not releasing a patch and instead just removing Gopher support, MS is leaving millions of people still open to vulnerabilities!
Not everyone who uses IE is going to upgrade to the next version of IE which will have no Gopher support. Not everyone runs WinXP, and can install the latest service pack that turns off Gopher support. People are going to keep their system the way it is, but because a patch is not available, they will be vulnerable to arbitrary code being executed at system-level just by clicking a link. And god forbid someone DOES actually want to use Gopher under IE, I guess they can't upgrade to the next version of IE. (Hey, they can always use Mozilla though!)
This could have a major spiral effect too; think of the Code Red worms. When worm writers realized that people were not patching their system, they released variants of the same worm, to do even more damage. If malicious people now hear that MS is not planning on patching this vulnerability, they might very well have a field day with it.
I guess all that talk from MS about their "trustworthy computing initiative" was exactly what we all thought; complete and utter hogwash. This type of behavior is simply unacceptable, but especially from a company that claims to be on a company-wide security audit.
From the article, in regards to the videos of the AMD procs overheating and catching fire without a heatsink:
A few weeks later, at a meeting with a small number of select attendees, AMD presented a circuit logic, which immediately turns off the power supply when the die temperature overheats to about 85 degrees Celsius. To guarantee failsafe protection, the CPU temperature is monitored frequently, in very short time increments, by the thermal diode. This ensures that the power is switched off in a timely manner.
Now, maybe this is just me, but is this really the right solution?? I personally don't think so. I mean, sure, it's much better than the processor catching on fire and melting onto your motherboard, but I still think the processor should instead slow down until it reaches a safe temperature. Hell, the Pentium IV does this, why don't the new AMD chips??
If my heatsink fell off on a server, I would not want the system turning off, I would want it staying on. I mean, it won't do too much good being on in that state, but at least there is no data loss in that situation.
Honestly, I think lack of core speed slowdown in the case of an overheat is the only thing keeping me from buying an AMD. I was really hoping their new chips would have that ability; I guess I'll have to keep waiting. If anyone knows if AMD is planning on implementing this, please let me know!
Not only do they remove the extra BS keys, but they also swapped Control & Caps Lock, for those of us using Sun systems, or those who just prefer that type of setup. It really is a great keyboard!
And what about fastforwarding through the previews and commercials on videos and DVDs? Are they going to try and put anti-fast-forwarding technology in them?
They are already trying it, unfortunately.
Disney's "Tarzan" DVD places ads in the FBI warning track, which prevents a user from fast-forwarding through them. You have to watch the ads every time you put the DVD on. And while they can be skipped, you can't jump directly to the menu, you have to skip through them one at a time. The "High Fidelity" DVD does this too.
Who knows, maybe if they keep doing things like this, more people will get pissed off at them. You'd think it would be in their best interests to not piss off the very people who earn them their money.
I did the stub installed on Windows 2000 and everything was required except for Personal Security Manager.
Did you already have a version of Mozilla installed previously?? If so, you need to uninstall it first, or else everything but PSM will be required. If Moz is not previously installed, you can turn the other options on and off. For example, right now I only have the browser & address book installed.
And bahtama writes "The latest IE gopher hole patch is out!:)... Check the release notes and then grab it from here."
Why did they attach a comment that should have been mentioned in slashback and put it in such an historic post?
Clearly you missed the joke here. Bahtama was implying that Mozilla 1.0 is a patch for IE, by allowing you to no longer use IE anymore, an browse securely!
Of course, you know what they say about jokes that need explaining...;)
I'm using 1.0 right now, and the only thing that is annoying me is that 1.0 still uses that same (IMHO tacky) splash screen!
I fortunately replaced the splash screen on my copy at work (in Windows, drop a file called mozilla.bmp into the Mozilla directory, and that becomes your splash!) before I showed Mozilla off to my boss. Had he seen the regular splash screen, I don't know if he would have taken it seriously.
Seriously, the browser is professional, the splash screen should be too.
Now that they have hit 1.0 are versions
without talkback going to be availible.
Most likely not, talkback helps them debug!
Have they or will they remove debug information?
The debug menus have been removed since 1.0RC3
The pacakage is still ~10megs for windows. I was
hoping to see some reduction for 1.0 since I
still use a lowly 56K Modem.
Simple solution, use the Net Installer! It is a 200KB download that lets you choose the options you want, and then download them. If you don't want/need Chatzilla or Mail & News, you can install a smaller package.
As for 10 megs for the full package, that's not big AT ALL! Remember that it comes with Mail & News, an IRC Client, a browser, a WYSIWYG editor, and an address book.
most imporatant of these that gopher is absolutly archaic. I personally havn't seen a gopher server since 1996 (at MIT).
Had you read the article, you do not need to have a Gopher server running. It is a URL buffer overflow in the Gopher protocol.
Second, as always, Microsoft will have a patch out fairly quickly
Again, had you read the article, you'd see that MS was informed of this back in May. I would hardly consider 3-4 weeks for a critical patch to be "fairly quickly". I would consider that to be atrociously slow. We are talking about full-on compromise of a system just by clicking a link. 3-4 weeks is NOT acceptable.
Oh, and as for your comment about Mozilla, the Moz team had the last critical security error patched in less than 24 hours.
Four Linux companies that haven't done anything in a long time (Caldera, TurboLinux? Are they kidding??)
SuSE hasn't done anything in a long time??! Nonsense. On top of being the first distro with KDE3 and Alsa.99 drivers, SuSE 8 also has an extremely customized version of YaST2 which is amazing. (I couldn't care less that it's not free). Also, Caldera & TurboLinux both have a very loyal userbase in their respective locales.
re ganging up to try to take on RedHat
If you read the original press release, you'd see that the companies involved in United Linux extended an offer to Redhat (as well as any other distro that is interested) to join the effort. This is not a direct assault on Redhat, it's an effort to get a standard, easily supportable distribution.
but the fact remains that they're still four dying companies
In my opinion, UnitedLinux is an effort to focus on the LSB, to make an easily-supportable version of Linux that works the same regardless of the localized vendor you pick. If they do it right, I think it will definitely be a Good Thing (TM).
-atrowe: Card-carrying Mensa member. I have no toleranse for stupidity.
Oh, the irony of that sig...
Clear Channel's "Sphere of Influence"
on
Homogenized Music
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· Score: 3, Informative
While the article talks about Clear Channel's massive amount of stations, I don't think most people realize just how many stations they have until they see a list of them.
You're right on the money here, and that was exactly my point; The way I envision United Linux is an enterprise solution with multiple companies all providing support for it. That's the only way such a concerted effort would ever succeed!
outside of college radio stations, there's nothing left worth listening to, and this tells you why.
Even that statement isn't true anymore. College radio is no longer a free-spirited playground of diverse music that it once was. Now, college radio is a proving grounds.
Indies, promoters, radio execs, they all visit college radio stations. They pay the stations/DJs and/or the schools money to get certain songs on the air. They test the market amongst college students, trying to find the next big hit for commercial radio. Very few college radio stations don't have at least some form of commercial influence.
I too disagree with the "Redhat watch out" statement, but for a different reason altogether. Look at United Linux's FAQ, #6:
What about other Linux providers?
Red Hat, Mandrake, and others are invited to be a part of UnitedLinux. We hope they take us up on the offer.
United Linux, at least how it seems to me, is not intended to be competition for Red Hat or Mandrake or any other distro, but instead form a standard distro with the best qualities from each existing distro, to make a single deployable solution that works the same in each case. A product like that could really get a lot of people behind it; no more quirks on compilation between different Linux distros, no more odd hardware problems (i.e. hardware working in one distro and not in another, just like my soundcard that works in SuSE but not in Redhat), and giving enterprise customers a feeling that Linux is not a scattered, unsupported product, but a united computing force that they can trust.
Frankly, I think this is a Good Thing (TM). And if Redhat and Mandrake sign up, it could be a great thing. Just imagine an uber-distro that focuses on the LSB, works great, and has the major Linux vendors behind it. It could be a force to be reckoned with, if it goes well. Here's to hoping!
It is 1 meg in size; I have enough bandwidth for the/. community, but please don't crosspost the link, thanks. And be sure to tell your friends about it!
Seriously, I am really impressed by this effort, plus the quality of the song is just excellent. Go EFF! Also, if you haven't already, Join or Donate to the EFF!
Legal voting age is 18. Legal army age is 18. Legal drinking age in a good amount of states is 21. What the heck? You can vote for politicians, you can get yourself killed and die for your country, but you can't get legally inebriated?
OT, but the answer is simple; because teens in the 70s messed up, and "ruined" it for future teens.
In case you are unaware, people made this same argument after the Korean and Vietnam wars. Eventually, people started listening. In the early 1970's, 28 states in the USA lowered the drinking age from 21 to 18. This was raised back to 21 in the 1980s. Why, you may ask? Because drunk-driving accidents, public drunkenness, and alcohol-influenced fighting increased almost immediately, and steadily climbed in the 18-20 year old age bracket. Some states had increases of over 25% in the first year alone. In fact, the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimates that changing the minimum drinking age laws to 21 years of age have saved over 16,000 lives since 1975.
18 year olds had their chance in this country, and they blew it. I'd be very surprised if the legal age was ever lowered again.
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He types the link thats in the story and works just fine, and gets modded up as informative?
The link was originally broken when the story was first published, due to bad HTML. The editors have since corrected the link. The comment in question was posted while the link was still malformed, which explains why it was modded up.
Wait, with XP and the ability to get raw socket access, we're in trouble anyway.
OT, but here we go. You know, with the increasing ease of creating a worm or a virus that can take over a machine, kill routers, flood mailservers, etc., how long will it be before computers start getting treated like cars? i.e. They have their purposes, but you need to have a license to use one legally.
Frankly, I'm just waiting until this happens, or rather until someone at least proposes the idea in a bill. Of course, if the CBDTPA passes, we essentially wouldn't have computers anymore anyway.
Is there any information on whom to contact to become part of the class action? Does one just contact the legal firm suing the record companies and inquire there? Thanks.
.
Well, I'm not sure about this lawsuit in particular, but I do know that other firms are planning class action suits as well.
If you would like to join an upcoming class-action, here is some useful information for you (from Check Heffner).
"Larry Feldman of the law firm Feldman & Rifkin (www.leflaw.net) is in the process of filing a class-action lawsuit against the major 5 record labels - Sony, BMG, Universal, EMI and Warner Brothers. Please write Larry directly at leflaw@leflaw.com
Larry is looking for the problems you have had with a suspected corrupt CD. Please include this information if you write him:
1. Your name and contact e-mail address
2. Your city and state
3. The CD artist and album name
4. Where you bought the CD (store name, city and state)
5. Your CD experience. Were you able to copy your CD to MP3 or another CD? What software did you use? The more details you can share about your corrupt CD, the better.
Larry will contact you about your report."
This has been tried, and it failed. You're assuming that the average consumer/user out there actually CARES about technological superiority. They don't. IE is "good enough", and it already comes installed on everything known to man, including damned internet-ready refrigerators. For your AVERAGE consumer something has to be exponentially better before they will eschew it in favor of the bundled item. Netscape fought against this and look what happened to them. I'm not going to debate the legality of what MS did to Netscape because that's not the topic here, but suffice to say that I don't think there's ANYTHING Mozilla could possibly bring to the table that would reverse the current trend, unless they found a way to have it read minds and present holographic interactive representations of supermodels for your pleasure.
While I see where you are coming from, I have to disagree. Look at Quicken, for instance. Microsoft fought that piece of software with MS Money for quite a long time, tooth & nail on several occasions. And on certain fronts, MS Money was as good as Quicken. However, Quicken still maintains almost 80% of the home finance market. Despite MS's attempts at bundling MS Money with MS Works, despite their discounts on it with purchases of MS office. Quicken does one thing, and it does it extremely well, and consumers know that. They really do care if it Quicken or not.
By that same token, I think consumers will really care about their browsers. I honestly think that IE won a lot of the market share because NS4 and especially NS6 were slow & buggy. (Of course, having the browser built inot the OS helps too). MS did have the better product, but they don't anymore. If AOL goes to a Netscape browser, and the consumers find the new features, the tabbed browsing, etc., I think there is a good chance of them not wanting to go back to IE. I was just speaking to a friend of mine who uses AOL earlier tonight, and she, albeit a textbook case of an AOL user, was asking me about other browsers because she had heard about some recent security holes in IE (e.g. Gopher hole).
There is a movement growing out there, and believe it not, AOL could be the best chance we geeks have to get an Open-Source browser back into the market.
Would you choose an X-Box at the new reduced price that could play DiVX you downloaded from the 'net or a regular DVD player with region controls and CSS?
Considering you still need to buy an add-on for the XBox to play DVDs, the price is back over $200. For that price, you can get a region-free DVD player that plays VCDs, SVCDs, MP3 Disks, and has better audio & video out options than the XBox. (Like the Daewoo 5700, which costs $150)
I seriously don't know anyone who would buy an XBox instead of a regular DVD player, when Xboxes don't offer as many features, or (IMHO) don't look nearly as nice as a standalone DVD player.
NoPopIE [daishar.com], Internet Explorer popup killer (win2k/xp only, for now)
Why not just use Mozilla instead, and they you don't need 3rd party software to kill extra windows??
In my honest opinion, if the browser doesn't let you turn off parts of javascript that you don't like, it wasn't written with the user in mind.
Next thing you know, they'll drop support for 75 baud cradle modems. Damn Microsoft! Damn them all to hell!!!!
The sarcasm and humor in the parent post aside, this is a very serious issue.
I think most of us know that Gopher is not used very much anymore, so MS supporters are definitely downplaying this hole. However, by not releasing a patch and instead just removing Gopher support, MS is leaving millions of people still open to vulnerabilities!
Not everyone who uses IE is going to upgrade to the next version of IE which will have no Gopher support. Not everyone runs WinXP, and can install the latest service pack that turns off Gopher support. People are going to keep their system the way it is, but because a patch is not available, they will be vulnerable to arbitrary code being executed at system-level just by clicking a link. And god forbid someone DOES actually want to use Gopher under IE, I guess they can't upgrade to the next version of IE. (Hey, they can always use Mozilla though!)
This could have a major spiral effect too; think of the Code Red worms. When worm writers realized that people were not patching their system, they released variants of the same worm, to do even more damage. If malicious people now hear that MS is not planning on patching this vulnerability, they might very well have a field day with it.
I guess all that talk from MS about their "trustworthy computing initiative" was exactly what we all thought; complete and utter hogwash. This type of behavior is simply unacceptable, but especially from a company that claims to be on a company-wide security audit.
Now, maybe this is just me, but is this really the right solution?? I personally don't think so. I mean, sure, it's much better than the processor catching on fire and melting onto your motherboard, but I still think the processor should instead slow down until it reaches a safe temperature. Hell, the Pentium IV does this, why don't the new AMD chips??
If my heatsink fell off on a server, I would not want the system turning off, I would want it staying on. I mean, it won't do too much good being on in that state, but at least there is no data loss in that situation.
Honestly, I think lack of core speed slowdown in the case of an overheat is the only thing keeping me from buying an AMD. I was really hoping their new chips would have that ability; I guess I'll have to keep waiting. If anyone knows if AMD is planning on implementing this, please let me know!
Exactly. You are describing the brilliant Happy Hacker Keyboards!
Not only do they remove the extra BS keys, but they also swapped Control & Caps Lock, for those of us using Sun systems, or those who just prefer that type of setup. It really is a great keyboard!
And what about fastforwarding through the previews and commercials on videos and DVDs? Are they going to try and put anti-fast-forwarding technology in them?
They are already trying it, unfortunately.
Disney's "Tarzan" DVD places ads in the FBI warning track, which prevents a user from fast-forwarding through them. You have to watch the ads every time you put the DVD on. And while they can be skipped, you can't jump directly to the menu, you have to skip through them one at a time. The "High Fidelity" DVD does this too.
Who knows, maybe if they keep doing things like this, more people will get pissed off at them. You'd think it would be in their best interests to not piss off the very people who earn them their money.
I did the stub installed on Windows 2000 and everything was required except for Personal Security Manager.
Did you already have a version of Mozilla installed previously?? If so, you need to uninstall it first, or else everything but PSM will be required. If Moz is not previously installed, you can turn the other options on and off. For example, right now I only have the browser & address book installed.
P.S. I replaced the splash with one of the splash screens found here:s h
http://www.lotekk.net/index.php?page=moz&sub=spla
Very professional, and very fitting!
And bahtama writes "The latest IE gopher hole patch is out! :) ... Check the release notes and then grab it from here."
;)
Why did they attach a comment that should have been mentioned in slashback and put it in such an historic post?
Clearly you missed the joke here. Bahtama was implying that Mozilla 1.0 is a patch for IE, by allowing you to no longer use IE anymore, an browse securely!
Of course, you know what they say about jokes that need explaining...
I'm using 1.0 right now, and the only thing that is annoying me is that 1.0 still uses that same (IMHO tacky) splash screen!
I fortunately replaced the splash screen on my copy at work (in Windows, drop a file called mozilla.bmp into the Mozilla directory, and that becomes your splash!) before I showed Mozilla off to my boss. Had he seen the regular splash screen, I don't know if he would have taken it seriously.
Seriously, the browser is professional, the splash screen should be too.
Now that they have hit 1.0 are versions without talkback going to be availible.
Most likely not, talkback helps them debug!
Have they or will they remove debug information?
The debug menus have been removed since 1.0RC3
The pacakage is still ~10megs for windows. I was hoping to see some reduction for 1.0 since I still use a lowly 56K Modem.
Simple solution, use the Net Installer! It is a 200KB download that lets you choose the options you want, and then download them. If you don't want/need Chatzilla or Mail & News, you can install a smaller package.
As for 10 megs for the full package, that's not big AT ALL! Remember that it comes with Mail & News, an IRC Client, a browser, a WYSIWYG editor, and an address book.
most imporatant of these that gopher is absolutly archaic. I personally havn't seen a gopher server since 1996 (at MIT).
Had you read the article, you do not need to have a Gopher server running. It is a URL buffer overflow in the Gopher protocol.
Second, as always, Microsoft will have a patch out fairly quickly
Again, had you read the article, you'd see that MS was informed of this back in May. I would hardly consider 3-4 weeks for a critical patch to be "fairly quickly". I would consider that to be atrociously slow. We are talking about full-on compromise of a system just by clicking a link. 3-4 weeks is NOT acceptable.
Oh, and as for your comment about Mozilla, the Moz team had the last critical security error patched in less than 24 hours.
Four Linux companies that haven't done anything in a long time (Caldera, TurboLinux? Are they kidding??)
.99 drivers, SuSE 8 also has an extremely customized version of YaST2 which is amazing. (I couldn't care less that it's not free). Also, Caldera & TurboLinux both have a very loyal userbase in their respective locales.
SuSE hasn't done anything in a long time??! Nonsense. On top of being the first distro with KDE3 and Alsa
re ganging up to try to take on RedHat
If you read the original press release, you'd see that the companies involved in United Linux extended an offer to Redhat (as well as any other distro that is interested) to join the effort. This is not a direct assault on Redhat, it's an effort to get a standard, easily supportable distribution.
but the fact remains that they're still four dying companies
SuSE is dying?? Really? You might want to tell that to IBM and the German Government.
In my opinion, UnitedLinux is an effort to focus on the LSB, to make an easily-supportable version of Linux that works the same regardless of the localized vendor you pick. If they do it right, I think it will definitely be a Good Thing (TM).
-atrowe: Card-carrying Mensa member. I have no toleranse for stupidity.
Oh, the irony of that sig...
While the article talks about Clear Channel's massive amount of stations, I don't think most people realize just how many stations they have until they see a list of them.
So, on that note, check out the list of stations that Clear Channel owns:
http://www.cjr.org/owners/clearchannel.asp
Go ahead, pick out the stations in your town. There are 5 in mine, and all of them are just awful; they play the same songs on an almost daily basis.
You're right on the money here, and that was exactly my point; The way I envision United Linux is an enterprise solution with multiple companies all providing support for it. That's the only way such a concerted effort would ever succeed!
outside of college radio stations, there's nothing left worth listening to, and this tells you why.
a / ndex.html
Even that statement isn't true anymore. College radio is no longer a free-spirited playground of diverse music that it once was. Now, college radio is a proving grounds.
Indies, promoters, radio execs, they all visit college radio stations. They pay the stations/DJs and/or the schools money to get certain songs on the air. They test the market amongst college students, trying to find the next big hit for commercial radio. Very few college radio stations don't have at least some form of commercial influence.
You can read more on the subject at Salon.com:
http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2001/03/14/payol
United Linux, at least how it seems to me, is not intended to be competition for Red Hat or Mandrake or any other distro, but instead form a standard distro with the best qualities from each existing distro, to make a single deployable solution that works the same in each case. A product like that could really get a lot of people behind it; no more quirks on compilation between different Linux distros, no more odd hardware problems (i.e. hardware working in one distro and not in another, just like my soundcard that works in SuSE but not in Redhat), and giving enterprise customers a feeling that Linux is not a scattered, unsupported product, but a united computing force that they can trust.
Frankly, I think this is a Good Thing (TM). And if Redhat and Mandrake sign up, it could be a great thing. Just imagine an uber-distro that focuses on the LSB, works great, and has the major Linux vendors behind it. It could be a force to be reckoned with, if it goes well. Here's to hoping!
JungleBoy was nice enough to convert the MP3 to Ogg. You can click on that comment link (or scroll up) and grab a version from his server.
Alternatively, you can also grab a copy that I mirrored here:
http://www.realfx.com/EFF-Tinseltown_Club.ogg
Be sure to spread this around on P2P networks!
I've mirrored JungleBoy's Ogg version, to help lessen the load on his server. (Hope you don't mind! If you do for some reason, email me.)
/. community, but please don't crosspost the link, thanks. And be sure to tell your friends about it!
You can all grab it at:
http://www.realfx.com/EFF-Tinseltown_Club.ogg
It is 1 meg in size; I have enough bandwidth for the
Seriously, I am really impressed by this effort, plus the quality of the song is just excellent. Go EFF! Also, if you haven't already, Join or Donate to the EFF!
Legal voting age is 18. Legal army age is 18. Legal drinking age in a good amount of states is 21. What the heck? You can vote for politicians, you can get yourself killed and die for your country, but you can't get legally inebriated?
OT, but the answer is simple; because teens in the 70s messed up, and "ruined" it for future teens.
In case you are unaware, people made this same argument after the Korean and Vietnam wars. Eventually, people started listening. In the early 1970's, 28 states in the USA lowered the drinking age from 21 to 18. This was raised back to 21 in the 1980s.
Why, you may ask?
Because drunk-driving accidents, public drunkenness, and alcohol-influenced fighting increased almost immediately, and steadily climbed in the 18-20 year old age bracket. Some states had increases of over 25% in the first year alone. In fact, the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration estimates that changing the minimum drinking age laws to 21 years of age have saved over 16,000 lives since 1975.
18 year olds had their chance in this country, and they blew it. I'd be very surprised if the legal age was ever lowered again.