Interesting to see what geeks in 1984 cheered at, but that's about it.
I attended one of these demos as a kid in 1984 in New Zealand, conducted by Steve Wozniac and Andy Hertzfeld (founding partner in Apple and Mac lead engineer respectively.) Here is a scan of my invite to the event which I still possess after all these years.
At the time Apple ]['s were still in wide use, Commodore, Acorn and BBC machines were coming in for the low end home market and IBM were the expensive, user-unfriendly systems for the office market.
The Mac truely was revolutionary. Up until that time applications had GUIs but not the entire user interface for the OS and audio had been rudimentary. seeing a Mac in action had the audience completely mesmerised as people realised that the machines that they currently possessed had just become obsolete.
My home town in the North Island of New Zealand is serviced by one of ten Wind Farms in the country. This one is the largest in the Southern Hemisphere, featuring roughly 100 turbines on a ridge 10 kilometres away that are barely noticable from the central city.
From memory the wind farm generates about 70% of energy requirement of the city, it's outlying townships and farms. As an added bonus, it's cheap for the consumer.
Because New Zealand is a Nuclear Free Zone the alternatives to Wind Power are primarily Geothermal which accounts for 18% of the national total, Hydroelectric which accounts for about 75% and Natural Gas making up the bulk of the remainder.
It seems to me that Metropolis would proved more furtile for analysis of German culture during that period, particularly as I find your points of comparison a litte stretched. Out of interest, what was the rationale behind the choice of Nosferatu?
As a layman, my guess is that Metropolis may have been done to death..
somebody else teaching you is not comparible to you teaching yourself
I disagree. the differences between the Unices and the various Micro-Soft offerings are "cultural" (for want of a better word, perhaps "behavioural") as well as technical from an administration perspective. Interaction with a mentor familiar with the "Unix way" is the best method of overcoming the cultural barrier I think.
For example, Rebooting a system is the first step for Micro-Soft people. Conversely it's the last for Unix people.
Unix people solve error conditions through investigation in the first instance. Windows admins tend to reboot in the same circumstance hoping that the problem will be rectified. If they perform a diagnosis at all, it's invariably after the fact. Often it's dismissed as "one of those things" due to the black-box nature of their platform.
Here's a nice collection of Internet maps from September 1969 onwards, showing the network build out from UCLA to include Stanford, UCSB, Utah and so on.
On behalf of my employer, I'm preparing a matrix to compare the relative strengths and weaknesses of the hardware vendors that have tendered a quote for my project.
While this internal HP memo is not the only factor leading to this, I included the following statement to the notes area of the section concerning Hewlett Packard;
Commitment to our platform of choice is questionable
Given that my employer places an emphasis on vendor support, I expect that statement to weigh heavily against HP in our deliberations.
There are many vendors of commodity hardware and the differentiator for many organisations is the level of support. I think HP has raised reasonable doubts about their level of commitment to support for a platform that is increasingly prevalent in the industry and that will cost them business.
while Qaddafi banned Israeli players from the FIDE championship
It's even more ironic that you bitch about this while 4 million Palestinians are imprisoned by the brutal, unconscionable and illegal Zionist occupation of their country.
I don't invite war criminals to my home, neither does Qaddafi. Good for him.
"Pessimist" is a term that optimists use to describe realists.
I agree with the grandparent post, there is no point lobbying on this issue because it isn't goint to change the outcome. No amount of lobbying or votes will outweigh the corporate interest. We could have a million people demonstrating in each of London, Paris, Madrid, Rome and Berlin and it wouldn't alter public policy - oh and the headlines would read "Dozens arrested at Hippie love parade for drug offences and property damage."
But hey, knock yourself out and lobby anyway, safe in the illusion that a ballot makes you a part of the political process.
Personally, I think politicans will only become representative when each member of the electorate is holding something a little more attention grabbing than a ballot slip in their hands.
ATI and nVidia don't care about Linux users at all. Linux users don't make up enough of a marketshare for them to care. The binary drivers are provided merely as a dangling carrot to appease people.
Yeah that's the common view.
A while back, I read a post from Havoc Pennington to one of the XFree86 lists where he was defending Redhat's input. He said words to the effect of;
"Helping a proprietary company deal with Open Source development and encouraging them not to pull out."
Which got me thinking, because I assumed he was talking about a hardware vendor.
From their perspective, hardware vendors will at least want to be taken seriously by the projects they deal with and would expect to influence if not submit to the main tree rather than be limited to merely writing device drivers. Maybe the likes of ATI and nVidia have been holding back not because of our miniscule market share, but because they are hesitant to deal with Dawes (et al) and XFree86.
Hopefully the hardware vendors find in X.org a partner that they can deal with, like their counterparts did with Linus (and wouldn't have with Stallman/HURD.)
I use an inconspicuous nylon Laptop/Notebook Backpack manufactured by Targus but carry smaller gadgets in internal pockets so I don't lose everything if my backpack is ripped off me.
Most of the tech shops on Tottenham Court road sell these for baqckpacks for about 50 quid.
it's too hard to explain to uneducated fundamentalists why snarling up internet traffic is a victory for Allah.
As difficult as explaining to the equally uneducated fundamentalist Americans that bombing the fuck out of people then complaining when some of them retaliate is hypocritical?
U.S. news agencies stopped broadcasting Bin Laden's speeches at the request of the U.S. government.
The U.S. government made the absurd claim that Bin Laden was "sending secret messages to his supporters" through his speeches, when it was blatantly obvious that the U.S. was simply interested in suppressing him.
Understandably in fact. Bin Laden was making a whole lot of sense and sounded extremely reasonable when compared to Bush.
The U.S. does not have the moral standing to criticise other nations. To do so is the height of hypocrisy.
because a LinuxBIOS could be configured to allow a serial console with full hardware control, just like a Sun box does.
Great point. This is functionality sorely missed in the vast majority of x86 systems for everyone that needs to run headless servers.
The
Remote Serial Console HOWTO is a superb document, but following it only provides you with a system administrable via serial console once the bootloader (LILO, Grub) has been initialised. This means that everything before the bootloader is not accessible via serial console.
Having to install a video card and attach a monitor and keyboard to box in order to modify BIOS settings is major pain in the arse.
We have Gnome because Trolltech refused to release QT under a free license in the early years.
The prevalence of KDE at that time showed us that a large proportion of the F/OSS community would cave to non-free software if it was convenient.
Until recently a mutually beneficial relationship existed between Gnome in the community and Ximian as a commercial provider, analogous to the relationship that exists between OpenOffice.org and Sun's Star Office.
Now that Novell owns Ximian (OK Novell are currently our friend, but that may not always be the case) and Miguel is exposing the community to litigation from Micro-Soft down the track through the introduction of non-free technologies (and procedures, methods, etc. which are likely to be covered by upcoming patent laws) the GNOME project needs to distance itself from the disruption that the Ximian guys represent in order to avoid contamination.
Miguel has a solid reputation and has done a lot for the community, but in this case he is either (best case) a fool for thinking that Micro-Soft can be trusted or (worst case) a quisling. Either way, it's barge pole time.
The Reichstag fire is what I thought of immediately
Yes that's the obvious parallel and the right conclusion IMO.
SCO's two pronged approach includes the court of public opinion in addition to the U.S. judicial system. It suits SCO and their Redmond Muppet-masters to disparage the Open Source community, which is why we see pejoratives like "Communist," "Hacker" and "Anti-American" emanating from them at every opportunity. It would suit them perfectly for each of those terms to become synonyms in the common vernacular.
At the very best, SCO is capitalising on this Virus by offering the reward for their propaganda, knowing that it will cause headlines. At the very worst they developed this virus themselves for the same purpose. Either way SCO will come out of this looking like victim.
Conversely, all that an independant Virus writer could hope for is a temporary interruption of SCO's Internet access.
I think the flexibility that Linux provides to the manufacturers is the key factor in its being the OS of choice.
Device manufacturers who go the Linux route reap any number of benefits, but the one that struck when the Zaurus was released was their ability to immediately tap in to a large amount of readily available free software.
I signed up for the development version of the Zaurus (the 5000d) and thanks to airmail believe that I was one of the first people in Europe to recieve one of these devices. Two days after it arrived Quake had been ported, as had any number of other pieces of Linux software. Within a week, a number of community software repositories were available and Sharp was no longer the "one stop shop" for Zaurus software.
Linux alleviates much of the need for device manufacturers to concern themselves with applications.
I carry two bootable BCDs in my wallet. Like you I use
Damn Small which I think is the best general purpose/desktop mini-distribution.
LNX-BBC is also worth having. The Free Software Foundation prints this one on their membership cards.
It has a flexible build system for customising your own version of the distribution and contains a number of networking and hardware utilities which DSL doesn't out of the box.
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Interesting to see what geeks in 1984 cheered at, but that's about it.
I attended one of these demos as a kid in 1984 in New Zealand, conducted by Steve Wozniac and Andy Hertzfeld (founding partner in Apple and Mac lead engineer respectively.) Here is a scan of my invite to the event which I still possess after all these years.
At the time Apple ]['s were still in wide use, Commodore, Acorn and BBC machines were coming in for the low end home market and IBM were the expensive, user-unfriendly systems for the office market.
The Mac truely was revolutionary. Up until that time applications had GUIs but not the entire user interface for the OS and audio had been rudimentary. seeing a Mac in action had the audience completely mesmerised as people realised that the machines that they currently possessed had just become obsolete.
My home town in the North Island of New Zealand is serviced by one of ten Wind Farms in the country. This one is the largest in the Southern Hemisphere, featuring roughly 100 turbines on a ridge 10 kilometres away that are barely noticable from the central city.
From memory the wind farm generates about 70% of energy requirement of the city, it's outlying townships and farms. As an added bonus, it's cheap for the consumer.
Because New Zealand is a Nuclear Free Zone the alternatives to Wind Power are primarily Geothermal which accounts for 18% of the national total, Hydroelectric which accounts for about 75% and Natural Gas making up the bulk of the remainder.
Jaymzter,
It seems to me that Metropolis would proved more furtile for analysis of German culture during that period, particularly as I find your points of comparison a litte stretched. Out of interest, what was the rationale behind the choice of Nosferatu?
As a layman, my guess is that Metropolis may have been done to death..
somebody else teaching you is not comparible to you teaching yourself
I disagree. the differences between the Unices and the various Micro-Soft offerings are "cultural" (for want of a better word, perhaps "behavioural") as well as technical from an administration perspective. Interaction with a mentor familiar with the "Unix way" is the best method of overcoming the cultural barrier I think.
For example, Rebooting a system is the first step for Micro-Soft people. Conversely it's the last for Unix people.
Unix people solve error conditions through investigation in the first instance. Windows admins tend to reboot in the same circumstance hoping that the problem will be rectified. If they perform a diagnosis at all, it's invariably after the fact. Often it's dismissed as "one of those things" due to the black-box nature of their platform.
Here's a nice collection of Internet maps from September 1969 onwards, showing the network build out from UCLA to include Stanford, UCSB, Utah and so on.
On behalf of my employer, I'm preparing a matrix to compare the relative strengths and weaknesses of the hardware vendors that have tendered a quote for my project.
While this internal HP memo is not the only factor leading to this, I included the following statement to the notes area of the section concerning Hewlett Packard;
Commitment to our platform of choice is questionable
Given that my employer places an emphasis on vendor support, I expect that statement to weigh heavily against HP in our deliberations.
There are many vendors of commodity hardware and the differentiator for many organisations is the level of support. I think HP has raised reasonable doubts about their level of commitment to support for a platform that is increasingly prevalent in the industry and that will cost them business.
while Qaddafi banned Israeli players from the FIDE championship
It's even more ironic that you bitch about this while 4 million Palestinians are imprisoned by the brutal, unconscionable and illegal Zionist occupation of their country.
I don't invite war criminals to my home, neither does Qaddafi. Good for him.
This is a cost effective solution.
Synopsis: Purchase an antenna suitable for your purposes and attach it into a suitably configured Linux box. The link gives you a step by step.
I see the release name for FireFox 0.8 is Royal Oak, also an Auckland suburb.
Is this just a coincidence or is there some connection between the Firebird project and Auckland , New Zealand?
Its pessimistic cynics like you...
"Pessimist" is a term that optimists use to describe realists.
I agree with the grandparent post, there is no point lobbying on this issue because it isn't goint to change the outcome. No amount of lobbying or votes will outweigh the corporate interest. We could have a million people demonstrating in each of London, Paris, Madrid, Rome and Berlin and it wouldn't alter public policy - oh and the headlines would read "Dozens arrested at Hippie love parade for drug offences and property damage."
But hey, knock yourself out and lobby anyway, safe in the illusion that a ballot makes you a part of the political process.
Personally, I think politicans will only become representative when each member of the electorate is holding something a little more attention grabbing than a ballot slip in their hands.
ATI and nVidia don't care about Linux users at all. Linux users don't make up enough of a marketshare for them to care. The binary drivers are provided merely as a dangling carrot to appease people.
Yeah that's the common view.
A while back, I read a post from Havoc Pennington to one of the XFree86 lists where he was defending Redhat's input. He said words to the effect of;
"Helping a proprietary company deal with Open Source development and encouraging them not to pull out."
Which got me thinking, because I assumed he was talking about a hardware vendor.
From their perspective, hardware vendors will at least want to be taken seriously by the projects they deal with and would expect to influence if not submit to the main tree rather than be limited to merely writing device drivers. Maybe the likes of ATI and nVidia have been holding back not because of our miniscule market share, but because they are hesitant to deal with Dawes (et al) and XFree86.
Hopefully the hardware vendors find in X.org a partner that they can deal with, like their counterparts did with Linus (and wouldn't have with Stallman/HURD.)
I use an inconspicuous nylon Laptop/Notebook Backpack manufactured by Targus but carry smaller gadgets in internal pockets so I don't lose everything if my backpack is ripped off me.
Most of the tech shops on Tottenham Court road sell these for baqckpacks for about 50 quid.
Thank you for so eloquently illustrating my point.
it's too hard to explain to uneducated fundamentalists why snarling up internet traffic is a victory for Allah.
As difficult as explaining to the equally uneducated fundamentalist Americans that bombing the fuck out of people then complaining when some of them retaliate is hypocritical?
Can't help you on the build time, but this will save you time on the download, seeing as you already have the 2.6.5 source;
http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/
patch-2.6.6.bz2 09-May-2004 20:18 2.4M
U.S. news agencies stopped broadcasting Bin Laden's speeches at the request of the U.S. government.
The U.S. government made the absurd claim that Bin Laden was "sending secret messages to his supporters" through his speeches, when it was blatantly obvious that the U.S. was simply interested in suppressing him.
Understandably in fact. Bin Laden was making a whole lot of sense and sounded extremely reasonable when compared to Bush.
The U.S. does not have the moral standing to criticise other nations. To do so is the height of hypocrisy.
because a LinuxBIOS could be configured to allow a serial console with full hardware control, just like a Sun box does.
Great point. This is functionality sorely missed in the vast majority of x86 systems for everyone that needs to run headless servers.
The Remote Serial Console HOWTO is a superb document, but following it only provides you with a system administrable via serial console once the bootloader (LILO, Grub) has been initialised. This means that everything before the bootloader is not accessible via serial console.
Having to install a video card and attach a monitor and keyboard to box in order to modify BIOS settings is major pain in the arse.
We have Gnome because Trolltech refused to release QT under a free license in the early years.
The prevalence of KDE at that time showed us that a large proportion of the F/OSS community would cave to non-free software if it was convenient.
Until recently a mutually beneficial relationship existed between Gnome in the community and Ximian as a commercial provider, analogous to the relationship that exists between OpenOffice.org and Sun's Star Office.
Now that Novell owns Ximian (OK Novell are currently our friend, but that may not always be the case) and Miguel is exposing the community to litigation from Micro-Soft down the track through the introduction of non-free technologies (and procedures, methods, etc. which are likely to be covered by upcoming patent laws) the GNOME project needs to distance itself from the disruption that the Ximian guys represent in order to avoid contamination.
Miguel has a solid reputation and has done a lot for the community, but in this case he is either (best case) a fool for thinking that Micro-Soft can be trusted or (worst case) a quisling. Either way, it's barge pole time.
VideoGuard seems to be an extremely common Satellite TV encryption system, browsing the different Sats over at LyngSat.
I wonder how effective VideoGuard is at protecting content. Anyone had any success decoding it?
SunOS 5.8 = Solaris 2.8 = Solaris 8
Blame the marketing department.
All true.
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Here's a scan of my invite to his Mac presentation with Steve Wozniac in New Zealand, circa 1984/85;
http://oob.freeshell.org/images/woz-and-hertz-i
Julia had his nose blown off in WWI.
"The Hnorror, the Hnnnorror!
The Reichstag fire is what I thought of immediately
Yes that's the obvious parallel and the right conclusion IMO.
SCO's two pronged approach includes the court of public opinion in addition to the U.S. judicial system. It suits SCO and their Redmond Muppet-masters to disparage the Open Source community, which is why we see pejoratives like "Communist," "Hacker" and "Anti-American" emanating from them at every opportunity. It would suit them perfectly for each of those terms to become synonyms in the common vernacular.
At the very best, SCO is capitalising on this Virus by offering the reward for their propaganda, knowing that it will cause headlines. At the very worst they developed this virus themselves for the same purpose. Either way SCO will come out of this looking like victim.
Conversely, all that an independant Virus writer could hope for is a temporary interruption of SCO's Internet access.
It's obvious who has the most to gain.
I think the flexibility that Linux provides to the manufacturers is the key factor in its being the OS of choice.
Device manufacturers who go the Linux route reap any number of benefits, but the one that struck when the Zaurus was released was their ability to immediately tap in to a large amount of readily available free software.
I signed up for the development version of the Zaurus (the 5000d) and thanks to airmail believe that I was one of the first people in Europe to recieve one of these devices. Two days after it arrived Quake had been ported, as had any number of other pieces of Linux software. Within a week, a number of community software repositories were available and Sharp was no longer the "one stop shop" for Zaurus software.
Linux alleviates much of the need for device manufacturers to concern themselves with applications.
I carry two bootable BCDs in my wallet. Like you I use Damn Small which I think is the best general purpose/desktop mini-distribution.
LNX-BBC is also worth having. The Free Software Foundation prints this one on their membership cards.
It has a flexible build system for customising your own version of the distribution and contains a number of networking and hardware utilities which DSL doesn't out of the box.