Gives new meaning to the phrase "No highs, no lows... it's Bose" doesn't it.
I like Bose personally. To bad a system like this would be expensive (at least for a few years untill mass production made it more reasonable). Guess that means that unless I strike it rich and can buy a fancy car that would include this (I assume this would be on BMWs or Mercedes), my car will be bouncing on bumpy roads. I'd love to try driving one though.
I remember reading something about the head of Standard Oil (IIRC). One of his business advisors asked why they didn't raise the price of oil in the winter when demand spiked to make more money and he replied that he had to keep it affordable otherwise people would freeze to death.
Monopolies aren't always bad, as you said. The problem with the way we see monopolies is that most of them take advantage of it to shaft the customer (on price, service, or anything else). It's when you mix monopolies with proffit motivations above all else that you get in real trouble. A benevolent monopoly can be good, as you said. Unfortunatly, I doubt we'll ever see benevolent monopolies (or even corporations) ever again. They just seem to get greedier and greedier.
Of course, in most situations, a nice open market if best.
I don't use OS X (although I intend to soon when I buy a new PC), so I can't offer much. A quick Google search didn't turn up much, here are the only two things I found. If you dig deeper or try harder, you might have more success. I don't know where Mac software likes to hide;).
MacWise - Claims to do it, and there is a demo. But if you like it it's $95 which is NOT cheap.
From Mac OS X Hints - How to add ANSI color to Terminal.app (I like how programs end in ".app":)). It is from '02 and mentions that the default shell on OS X is csh which (IIRC) means it's talking about 10.1 or 10.2 (since it was changed to bash in 10.3, right?).
My last suggestion is PuTTY. I've always found it to be an excelent program in the Windows world, and they have source for a Unix version which should work on OS X (this is based on the the Unix underpinnings, not anything written anywhere I saw). Download page, look under "Unix source" or something like that.
Yeah, SegaTV as other poster have pointed out. I wanted it BAD but they never offered it. My cousins had it and I got to use it once or twice. Loading the game was a little anoying, and I don't think there were many games, but still very cool (especially in when, '95?).
As for now, the download would be a bit of a problem. There are some upsides if they partner with cable companies. My cable modem is capable of VERY high bandwidth (I've seen spikes near 1 meg), but I can only achieve it when downloading from MANY sources, or multiple files at once because very few servers on the 'net let you download things that fast (either through capping for traffic). So if Infinium set up distribution nets INSIDE the cable companies (IE it didn't have to go through the internet) then they could offer download speeds that would make things run better. Also, after enough download to start a level, you can continue to download stuff and cache it to the hard drive so in the future it seems like no delay. You can also keep that stuff there so that when you go back to play tomarrow you don't have to suffer through another download. When the HD is full, you just delete each game in the order of how long it's been since it was played and continue that untill you have enough space. Then it wouldn't seem that bad. Also, if it's not through the internet (inside the firewall at the cable company maybe) they could also avoid the cap on bandwith (mine was great untill my little cable company with good service was bought by Comcrud). Because if the quality of your games depends on how much you pay per month with a cable modem, they are in trouble. (Note: Not sure how DSL would figure into all this as I don't have it).
Now after all the goings on, I frankly don't trust the Phantom people, but if the offering ends up good I may jump on. The major crux for me will be how they offer things. Will it be like SegaTV (you pay your $30 a month, play any game on the service any time, no limit of games per month, and we have this huge library), or will it be more like PPV (you pay $30 a month, plus $5 to unlock each game (but it stays unlocked forever)). If there is no limit, then it sounds great (replace BlockBuster or Gamefly). If there is a limit (you can only play 4 game per month without paying extra) or something like that, they won't get my money.
But if they do it right, they have a business model for some real success.
My prediction? They will end up either a joke or just a footnote. Someone (probably someone bigger, like MS or Sony or Nintendo or something) will come along and do a better job (although probably 1+ years later) and THEN it will hit big.
SegaTV was too early for it's time. Most cable companies couldn't offer it (probably because of infrastructure). My cousins also got access to cable modems early. They lived very close to a cable "hub" or whatever so they got great service (as opposed to my Comcrud connection). Phantom is here at about the right time, but the company doesn't inspire trust (with all that's happened).
Whether Phantom or someone else, this kind of idea will succede soon. Instant access on demand games is just the kind of thing most gamers would love if you do it right.
Crud. You're right. Oops. I thought that might be wrong after I posted it. Oh well. It's still a cool effect, just not the one the question was about;).
I agree. Physics isn't some cool feature someone invented, it's something that we can finally put in without it ruining performance. We've all noticed at one time or another in a game that the boxes on the wall don't move when shot at, or a person can walk across a telephone line without it bending or breaking. That's all wrong (in physics) and so you might notice it. Sure you could have put the physics engine from HL2 into the origional, but how many computers would have been able to play it at more than 2 fps when it was released?
You're right, the list isn't much in the way of trends in gaming. You want a trend? Trying to make a game out of any sport with the word "extreme" attached to it. That's a trend (even if a sorry one).
Basically normal mapping is geometry, bump mapping is lighting.
Bump mapping is used to make a surface look more 3D by making the small details get light differntly (like the grout between bricks). It gives the illusion of depth. The problem is if you view across the surface, it's still just a flat surface.
Normal mapping actually changes the geomety of the object when it's rendered. So while the effect might end up looking the same (probably not, but they could be used for the same kind of thing), when you look across the surface, this time it's not flat, it's actually 3D.
Now that's a lousy way to use it if all it does is the same as bump mapping. Do the little tiny bumps (like on bricks) really matter that much? Wouldn't bump mapping be faster? Yes. But normal mapping lets you do more. You could edit the normal maps on the side panels of a car in-game to "bend" it so that it is dented because it was hit by another car. You could use slightly different normal maps on all the soldier in a game so that they are all the same model, but seem to have slightly different faces, body structures, etc. It allows some interesting stuff, which bump could, at best, hint at.
I haven't heard that one in a while. I once had a huge list of names people and doctors used for placebos and such when they wanted to hide what they were from paitents or such (often during old clinical trials and such if I remember correctly from what the page said.)
First let me say get allergy tested, tested for asthma, etc. as another poster suggested. There may be some medicine that can reduce the effects.
That said I think we all know the smell of new plastic and it's not that great. Your problem is that you are bother by it, the "new car smell" if you will, only you are FAR more sensitive, right? Well new car smell goes away after a while, after the car has been aired out (it takes a while, obviously). So my first suggestion is to air it out. I would say put it in a big room (have access to a gymnasium?) or some other large space where it will be safe (obviously you can't leave it out in a parking lot). Then set a bunch of fans (or better yet rent or get your hands on one of the HUGE box fans that are used for drying carpet or cheap AC, a Gym would probably have one). Set it up and let it run (make sure there is a source of fresh air, say put the setup to pull air in from a door) and just let it go for a while (a few days maybe?). I would think that (espeically if it's hot, so it all "sweats") would do a great job of fixing it (or at least making it bearable).
My other suggestions would be to try used equiptment. Because it's used, the smell may have already dissapated.
Last is, relocate it. Is that a possibilty for you? Put the PC and such in another room (as much as possible) and run the cords through the wall. That way all you'd need is the keyboard/mouse/monitor, and maybe a diskdrive (say USB/Firewire CD-RW). The less stuff there is, the less the fumes.
As for specific products, I'm not sure what to suggest. You had an idea for a monitor, and someone somewhere must make an aluminum keyboard/mouse. Is rubber much of a problem? You could use one of those rubber keyboards (often designed to roll up or such). They may not be the most comfortable, but it might work.
If rubber does work, you could get a thin paint rubber (must exist if rubber dip exists, although that might work, I know there is a rubber spay can out there) and cover all the part (or at least the surfaces of the plastic parts). That way, you may be able to trap the smell in.
Do yourself a favor. Get DirecTV. You get DirecTV and a DirecTiVo (techinally DirecTV DVR with TiVo Service) and you'll be in heaven. All the content is digital and looks great (like Dish should be, I've never had it). But the great part is the TiVo. Not only is it a TiVo with that great TiVo interface and such, it has TWO TUNERS. You can RECORD TWO SHOWS AT ONCE OFF DIFFERENT CHANNELS, and watch something that was pre-recorded while it's doing that. The thing is fantastic. Sometimes it can be a little slow (nothing like you've mentioned), but it's no prolem. And my box is a year old so there should be even better ones by now. The best part is the service is only $5 on top of the regular bill, so it's actually cheaper than the TiVo service. Record of local channels (from DirecTV), cable channels, premium channels and such. If you HDTV, there is the HDTV Tivo for DirecTV. If you have a home theater setup, you can have the TiVo record the Dolby Digital soundtracks for programs that have them, so you get 5.1 and everything (mostly on PPV and Premium channels, but great none the less).
Go with a DirecTiVo, you'll be in heaven. If you have any questions, e-mail me or reply and I'll try to answer them. It's fantastic.
Sorry if this sounds like an ad, but I LOVE my DirecTiVo. Gotta promote 'em, you know.
That's not the biggest problem. I have read reports along the lines of it usually pops-up a dialog. Now there is no problem in it asking you if you want to allow something to the 'net (it asked about AIM on one PC I updated), but that it doesn't always. It needs to ALWAYS ask, because otherwise it's just "magic-computer-voodoo" and some things just seem to randomly not work.
Now as we go forward, this won't be as much of a problem as software is designed with this stuff taken into account, but for now it's something that could be a very annoying problem.
I've been running SP2 for about a week. I am behind a firewall (Linksys router). That said I left it on. I've had no problems with it. It seems I might as well leave it on. There are times I'm at other people's houses (I don't know if they run firewalls) for repairing computers or just other things. Also when I go use the internet at a hotel or something. I have always thought of getting a firewall before, but never had enough reason. Now that there is one with Windows, I'm covered (at least basically, I know enough to survive the rest and be carefull).
Seemed to me that I might as well leave it on. If it causes problems, I can just that program through.
No! Unfair! Confusing! I hate the ALA. They're evil! They support porn access for kids and have a serious liberal slant and there are so many reasons I don't like them.
But their doing something... good! This is confusing. I'm not supposed to like them but they are doing something good! This is like MS suddenly putting everything up to 2k under the GPL.
My brain hurts! It's confusing. Why can't anyone just be EVIL. Why do they have to do something good once and a while to make you question them?
Well, as much as I don't like them, in this case the enemy of my enemy is my friend, I suppose. The MPAA/RIAA/etc are the greater evil in this battle (IMHO). The ALA is trying to push a specific world view and ideological slant and co-opt parrents (again, my opinion). The RIAA/MPAA is trying to take away my RIGHTS. One is definatly worse than the other.
There are other things to be aware of too. Cygwin is nice (I use it myself on my personal laptop) but you should look into the tools you want on Windows. Yes you can get bash and perl, but there are limitations to considder. For example, IIRC, the fork() call on Windows is VERY slow for some reason that I don't remember.
If the Windows environment becomes that much of a problem (and don't forget to try, as another poster suggested, things like Services For Unix (SFU)), set up a demo of the two things side by side to show the customer just how much more efficent running it on the Unix of your choice is than making it run on Windows. That might convince them if it comes to that.
Speaking of which, I would love to know WHY the client has to have Windows. Maybe there is something there that you can deal with that you don't realize.
...constituted a profoundly undesirable level of humiliation.
Wasn't that the POINT? Isn't jail supposed to be unfun/annoying/humiliating? I see nothing wrong with what they were doing if they just had cameras so people could see what it was like/what was going on. It's not like they were making the prisoners wear dresses and act out scenes from "The Sound of Music" on camera against their will or anything.
I think it was a perfectly ACCEPTABLE level of humiliation for prisoners.
But by all means, let's give the prisoners better accomidations that US army troops, full health and dental (better than most private citizens with good health care) at taxpayer expense (let 'em freeload, because "pay for your crime" wouldn't make any sense if we took it litrally too), cable TV, etc. Because all of those things will punish.
Exactly. What if in that football game you could draw your own plays using the touch screen and then the game would interpret them and run them out for you. Just because you've heard the name of the game doesn't mean it can't be innovative, as my parent comment pointed out.
Thanks for the info. If Macs never played a single game, I would almost certanly still buy the machine as that's what I want and most games I play now are console or online (pop-cap type stuff). That said, the ability is there so I was curious about it. If I do play games, they will probably be Sims 2, Doom 3, UT, etc. They are BIG name games and I know they have (or at least will get) Mac ports. I'm in no hurry, so I don't maid waiting for the port either.
Once again, the great LWN has something to help you. Check out part 1 and part 2 of "The Grumpy Editor's Guide to diagram editors". I have no expiriance with any diagram software, so that's all that I can offer you.
This is something I've been wondering about, and since it's on topic (at least slightly) I'd like to ask: Can anyone tell me how well the current 15" PowerBooks work for gaming? I'm seriously looking at them to replace my 4 year old Dell but I'd like to be able to play games now and then.
This is nuts. First of all Apple is not a monopoly, their player is just head and shoulder above everyone else. As for the argument they are preventing competition by not licensing FairPlay there are two points. First is that there are tons of other players on the market and if you include all the flash players sold over the years the iPod isn't the majority of sales (I don't think). Second of all they CAN SELL MUSIC FOR THE iPOD. They have to use this magical format that the iPod plays. What was it called? MP3. They can sell MP3s. You can't force Apple to open it's product because they don't want to use the dominant format on the market to sell their music.
Virgin is just plain wrong. Forcing Apple to open FairPlay would be a miscarige of justice, there is no good reason to do it other than to stick it to Apple because other companies are mad they aren't as successfull.
I understand that, but if you're working with tons of 32 bit numbers, it's much faster to do it with native 32 bit support than to do it using 16 bit math which takes longer because of the hoops you must jump through (relative to native 32 bit). Sorry if you misunderstood me.
How could you do a game like this on the PSP or GBA? You couldn't. Controll would be just too much of an issue. But with the DS's touch screen, you can do surgery, or add an alien autopsy to your game. You could even do an "Operation" game of sorts (don't touch the sides!).
These are the kind of things that Nintendo was talking about when they said we'd get new kinds of gameplay. At E3 there was a carving demo that would let your carve things. They could do things like that to let you make your own piece in a board game. It may take some time, but I think we are going to see some VERY interesting games from the DS. Even if some aren't good, the innovation will be great.
How about a game where you "raise" a little AI robot or something. You could design it yourself, and be able to add user created objects to it's little "playpen" to explore and see how it reacts to things. You could "program" it by connecting little logic blocks (sort of how you program the Lego Mindstorms software).
And of course, now we could get a VERY cool version of Mario Paint.
Yeah. Really Intel would be doing very well right now if the 90nm process worked as well as previous shifts worked (in added speed, reduced head/power requirements, etc). Netburst could have kept them going.
But Netburst requires speed, and when you can't keep ramping up the speed while your competitor can (and adds new features line on-die memory controller and 64 bitness and NX support) then you're in trouble.
It's too bad for Intel, but I think it's good for consumers. I don't think Netburst ever did ANYTHING for consumers other than let Intel keep ramping up speeds (which would have happened anyway, may just not quite as fast).
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I like Bose personally. To bad a system like this would be expensive (at least for a few years untill mass production made it more reasonable). Guess that means that unless I strike it rich and can buy a fancy car that would include this (I assume this would be on BMWs or Mercedes), my car will be bouncing on bumpy roads. I'd love to try driving one though.
Monopolies aren't always bad, as you said. The problem with the way we see monopolies is that most of them take advantage of it to shaft the customer (on price, service, or anything else). It's when you mix monopolies with proffit motivations above all else that you get in real trouble. A benevolent monopoly can be good, as you said. Unfortunatly, I doubt we'll ever see benevolent monopolies (or even corporations) ever again. They just seem to get greedier and greedier.
Of course, in most situations, a nice open market if best.
My last suggestion is PuTTY. I've always found it to be an excelent program in the Windows world, and they have source for a Unix version which should work on OS X (this is based on the the Unix underpinnings, not anything written anywhere I saw). Download page, look under "Unix source" or something like that.
Hope one of those works, have fun.
Check it out: The Sega Channel.
It ran from '94 to '98.
As for now, the download would be a bit of a problem. There are some upsides if they partner with cable companies. My cable modem is capable of VERY high bandwidth (I've seen spikes near 1 meg), but I can only achieve it when downloading from MANY sources, or multiple files at once because very few servers on the 'net let you download things that fast (either through capping for traffic). So if Infinium set up distribution nets INSIDE the cable companies (IE it didn't have to go through the internet) then they could offer download speeds that would make things run better. Also, after enough download to start a level, you can continue to download stuff and cache it to the hard drive so in the future it seems like no delay. You can also keep that stuff there so that when you go back to play tomarrow you don't have to suffer through another download. When the HD is full, you just delete each game in the order of how long it's been since it was played and continue that untill you have enough space. Then it wouldn't seem that bad. Also, if it's not through the internet (inside the firewall at the cable company maybe) they could also avoid the cap on bandwith (mine was great untill my little cable company with good service was bought by Comcrud). Because if the quality of your games depends on how much you pay per month with a cable modem, they are in trouble. (Note: Not sure how DSL would figure into all this as I don't have it).
Now after all the goings on, I frankly don't trust the Phantom people, but if the offering ends up good I may jump on. The major crux for me will be how they offer things. Will it be like SegaTV (you pay your $30 a month, play any game on the service any time, no limit of games per month, and we have this huge library), or will it be more like PPV (you pay $30 a month, plus $5 to unlock each game (but it stays unlocked forever)). If there is no limit, then it sounds great (replace BlockBuster or Gamefly). If there is a limit (you can only play 4 game per month without paying extra) or something like that, they won't get my money.
But if they do it right, they have a business model for some real success.
My prediction? They will end up either a joke or just a footnote. Someone (probably someone bigger, like MS or Sony or Nintendo or something) will come along and do a better job (although probably 1+ years later) and THEN it will hit big.
SegaTV was too early for it's time. Most cable companies couldn't offer it (probably because of infrastructure). My cousins also got access to cable modems early. They lived very close to a cable "hub" or whatever so they got great service (as opposed to my Comcrud connection). Phantom is here at about the right time, but the company doesn't inspire trust (with all that's happened).
Whether Phantom or someone else, this kind of idea will succede soon. Instant access on demand games is just the kind of thing most gamers would love if you do it right.
Crud. You're right. Oops. I thought that might be wrong after I posted it. Oh well. It's still a cool effect, just not the one the question was about ;).
You're right, the list isn't much in the way of trends in gaming. You want a trend? Trying to make a game out of any sport with the word "extreme" attached to it. That's a trend (even if a sorry one).
Bump mapping is used to make a surface look more 3D by making the small details get light differntly (like the grout between bricks). It gives the illusion of depth. The problem is if you view across the surface, it's still just a flat surface.
Normal mapping actually changes the geomety of the object when it's rendered. So while the effect might end up looking the same (probably not, but they could be used for the same kind of thing), when you look across the surface, this time it's not flat, it's actually 3D.
Now that's a lousy way to use it if all it does is the same as bump mapping. Do the little tiny bumps (like on bricks) really matter that much? Wouldn't bump mapping be faster? Yes. But normal mapping lets you do more. You could edit the normal maps on the side panels of a car in-game to "bend" it so that it is dented because it was hit by another car. You could use slightly different normal maps on all the soldier in a game so that they are all the same model, but seem to have slightly different faces, body structures, etc. It allows some interesting stuff, which bump could, at best, hint at.
Obecalp spelled backwards is placebO.
I haven't heard that one in a while. I once had a huge list of names people and doctors used for placebos and such when they wanted to hide what they were from paitents or such (often during old clinical trials and such if I remember correctly from what the page said.)
That said I think we all know the smell of new plastic and it's not that great. Your problem is that you are bother by it, the "new car smell" if you will, only you are FAR more sensitive, right? Well new car smell goes away after a while, after the car has been aired out (it takes a while, obviously). So my first suggestion is to air it out. I would say put it in a big room (have access to a gymnasium?) or some other large space where it will be safe (obviously you can't leave it out in a parking lot). Then set a bunch of fans (or better yet rent or get your hands on one of the HUGE box fans that are used for drying carpet or cheap AC, a Gym would probably have one). Set it up and let it run (make sure there is a source of fresh air, say put the setup to pull air in from a door) and just let it go for a while (a few days maybe?). I would think that (espeically if it's hot, so it all "sweats") would do a great job of fixing it (or at least making it bearable).
My other suggestions would be to try used equiptment. Because it's used, the smell may have already dissapated.
Last is, relocate it. Is that a possibilty for you? Put the PC and such in another room (as much as possible) and run the cords through the wall. That way all you'd need is the keyboard/mouse/monitor, and maybe a diskdrive (say USB/Firewire CD-RW). The less stuff there is, the less the fumes.
As for specific products, I'm not sure what to suggest. You had an idea for a monitor, and someone somewhere must make an aluminum keyboard/mouse. Is rubber much of a problem? You could use one of those rubber keyboards (often designed to roll up or such). They may not be the most comfortable, but it might work.
If rubber does work, you could get a thin paint rubber (must exist if rubber dip exists, although that might work, I know there is a rubber spay can out there) and cover all the part (or at least the surfaces of the plastic parts). That way, you may be able to trap the smell in.
Good luck.
Go with a DirecTiVo, you'll be in heaven. If you have any questions, e-mail me or reply and I'll try to answer them. It's fantastic.
Sorry if this sounds like an ad, but I LOVE my DirecTiVo. Gotta promote 'em, you know.
Now as we go forward, this won't be as much of a problem as software is designed with this stuff taken into account, but for now it's something that could be a very annoying problem.
Seemed to me that I might as well leave it on. If it causes problems, I can just that program through.
But their doing something... good! This is confusing. I'm not supposed to like them but they are doing something good! This is like MS suddenly putting everything up to 2k under the GPL.
My brain hurts! It's confusing. Why can't anyone just be EVIL. Why do they have to do something good once and a while to make you question them?
Well, as much as I don't like them, in this case the enemy of my enemy is my friend, I suppose. The MPAA/RIAA/etc are the greater evil in this battle (IMHO). The ALA is trying to push a specific world view and ideological slant and co-opt parrents (again, my opinion). The RIAA/MPAA is trying to take away my RIGHTS. One is definatly worse than the other.
If the Windows environment becomes that much of a problem (and don't forget to try, as another poster suggested, things like Services For Unix (SFU)), set up a demo of the two things side by side to show the customer just how much more efficent running it on the Unix of your choice is than making it run on Windows. That might convince them if it comes to that.
Speaking of which, I would love to know WHY the client has to have Windows. Maybe there is something there that you can deal with that you don't realize.
Wasn't that the POINT? Isn't jail supposed to be unfun/annoying/humiliating? I see nothing wrong with what they were doing if they just had cameras so people could see what it was like/what was going on. It's not like they were making the prisoners wear dresses and act out scenes from "The Sound of Music" on camera against their will or anything.
I think it was a perfectly ACCEPTABLE level of humiliation for prisoners.
But by all means, let's give the prisoners better accomidations that US army troops, full health and dental (better than most private citizens with good health care) at taxpayer expense (let 'em freeload, because "pay for your crime" wouldn't make any sense if we took it litrally too), cable TV, etc. Because all of those things will punish.
Let's all protect the poooooor prisioners. Awww.
Sheesh.
Exactly. What if in that football game you could draw your own plays using the touch screen and then the game would interpret them and run them out for you. Just because you've heard the name of the game doesn't mean it can't be innovative, as my parent comment pointed out.
Thanks for the info.
Once again, the great LWN has something to help you. Check out part 1 and part 2 of "The Grumpy Editor's Guide to diagram editors". I have no expiriance with any diagram software, so that's all that I can offer you.
This is something I've been wondering about, and since it's on topic (at least slightly) I'd like to ask: Can anyone tell me how well the current 15" PowerBooks work for gaming? I'm seriously looking at them to replace my 4 year old Dell but I'd like to be able to play games now and then.
Virgin is just plain wrong. Forcing Apple to open FairPlay would be a miscarige of justice, there is no good reason to do it other than to stick it to Apple because other companies are mad they aren't as successfull.
I understand that, but if you're working with tons of 32 bit numbers, it's much faster to do it with native 32 bit support than to do it using 16 bit math which takes longer because of the hoops you must jump through (relative to native 32 bit). Sorry if you misunderstood me.
These are the kind of things that Nintendo was talking about when they said we'd get new kinds of gameplay. At E3 there was a carving demo that would let your carve things. They could do things like that to let you make your own piece in a board game. It may take some time, but I think we are going to see some VERY interesting games from the DS. Even if some aren't good, the innovation will be great.
How about a game where you "raise" a little AI robot or something. You could design it yourself, and be able to add user created objects to it's little "playpen" to explore and see how it reacts to things. You could "program" it by connecting little logic blocks (sort of how you program the Lego Mindstorms software).
And of course, now we could get a VERY cool version of Mario Paint.
But Netburst requires speed, and when you can't keep ramping up the speed while your competitor can (and adds new features line on-die memory controller and 64 bitness and NX support) then you're in trouble.
It's too bad for Intel, but I think it's good for consumers. I don't think Netburst ever did ANYTHING for consumers other than let Intel keep ramping up speeds (which would have happened anyway, may just not quite as fast).
I wonder where I got "tumwater"?
(quick Google) Oh, Tumwater will come after Lindenhurst and adds other things on (like 16x PCIe, as opposed to Lidenhurst's 8x).
Well, I wasn't TOO far off.