>And if you want to keep your job, when someone says work 60 hours this week and Ill pay you for 40, you say "yes sir".
I'm in IT, and that happens to me now, every week.
Then again, my second job ever was in a grocery store in Chicago, and on my first day I had to clear carts out of a snow-covered parking lot in the dark. I thought, at the time, "at least it will always be better than this" -- but at the time, I also found it to be fun, because nobody was bothering me while I got the job done.
At the end of the day, a good job is one that:
- Gives you a guaranteed minimum amount of money; - Gives you a guaranteed maximum number of hours; - Has clearly established goals that can be achieved with some time left over for personal growth; - Can see you going away for the weekend or on vacation without everything falling apart; - Pays a good, solid living wage; - Is not dangerous; - Staffs people who respect you, and who are themselves worthy of respect; - Does not impose arbitrary dress codes or other behaviors that do not have a direct impact on your job performance, but are mandatory anyway; - Allows you to have pride in the results of your work, on your own terms.
Most jobs are missing a few of those. The truly awful ones are missing most of those. If you know of a job that has all of those, let me know.
Whoops -- I missed the part about it being for 100 miles. Yeah, I call BS on that one -- I'm now firmly on the "saw the cops coming and made up a story" side.:)
The Audi 5000, and many other cars over the years, have had reported cases of "unintended acceleration", often resulting in deaths. In most (if not all) cases, it turns out to be driver error, wherein the driver BELIEVES they're stomping on the brakes, but instead they're pressing the gas. The truth is, in all modern automobiles, the brakes can bring the car to a halt even with the accelerator floored.
Historically, this usually occurs when something else malfunctions and causes the driver to get distracted. In the case of the Audi 5000, it was an idle control that went awry, and when people shifted into drive with their foot off the brake, the higher idle would make the car lurch forward. They'd slam on the brakes, but accidentally hit the gas, and keep their foot to the floor until they hit something. They found this out by inviting a number of people who experienced this "unintended acceleration" to a parking lot, and had them drive engineers around for two days in front of cameras while the engineers played with the computer to force errors.
On the second day of this testing, a woman putting the car into reverse went tearing across the parking lot at high speed until the engineer reached over and shut the car off. She jumped out of the car, and on camera, shouted something like "It happened! There's your proof! The car is at fault!" -- but the cameras inside the car showed she had been hitting the gas, the cameras outside showed no brake lights, and the engineer riding with her bore witness as well.
As a result of this study, and all of the fallout surrounding the related lawsuits, the US requires an automatic transmission interlock on all cars sold here. You MUST have your foot on the brake to shift into gear.
- - -
Now, to the case at hand. I am fairly certain that this was the course of events:
1. The driver recently purchased the car, or it was a rental, so he was relatively unfamiliar with it (the Audi 5000 incident found that the vast majority of people having these incidents were drivers for whom the Audi was not the primary vehicle, or whom had just purchased it);
2. The driver was cruising along on cruise control, and pressed the gas without manually disengaging the control.
3. When the driver lifted off the gas and pulled back in, the car either didn't slow down as quickly as he thought it should (remember, we're assuming he was unfamiliar with the car), he accidentally hit the button to reset the cruise control to the newer, higher speed, or there was a genuine malfunction that reset the cruise to the newer, higher speed.
4. In the next few seconds that followed, he panicked and went for the brake -- but instead he hit the gas. Having done this, and firmly believing that he was hitting the brake to no effect, he continued to floor the gas. The car continued to accelerate.
5. Between trying to shut the car off, calling the police and swerving around traffic, it never occurred to him to look down and see if he was actually hitting the brake. No shame there; none of us would have, either.
6. As he approached the tollbooth, he made another attempt at the brakes (probably using both feet this time) and brought the car to a stop.
So, is the cruise control at fault? Possibly, but not definitely. Either way, similar past incidents suggest that it was a relatively minor issue until he hit the gas by mistake.
For what it's worth, with no witnesses in the car and no instruments monitoring, we'll never know for sure. Also, unless he realized his mistake just before stopping the car, he may well spend the rest of his life believing it's the car's fault -- and if he DID realize his mistake, there's no way he's ever going to admit it.
Regarding my above post -- before anyone yells "hey, you're not supposed to ask the questions here", it's a question I'm trying to get you people to think about, not a question that I'm asking them.
I have heard politicans (as well as pundits, columnists, and others) state that homosexuals should not marry, as the principal purpose of a marriage is to conceive and/or raise children. However, my wife and I have been unable to conceive, while more than one of our gay couple friends have successfully adopted children, or have conceived their own children via sperm donation. My question is, do you believe that having the ability to conceive and/or raise children is a principal purpose of a "legitimate" marriage, and if so, would you consider my own marriage illegitimate?
>8. Defines electronic dissemination as initiating a transmission of, making available, or otherwise offering, a commercial recording or audiovisual work for distribution on the Internet or other digital network. > >Key word INITIATING. A passive distributor (ISP, P2P "middle man", etc.) is protected. Only the active sender is a target.
Actually, I suspect a passive distributor would be "making available" or "otherwise offering" the material, wouldn't they?
A friend of mine, who has a Master's degree and is married to a college professor, recently called me "one of the smartest people (he'd) ever met".
He was flabbergasted to find out that I'd gone through the Chicago public grade/high school system, and had only completed a few years of commuter-school college before leaving to start my career at a no-paying job within my chosen industry. My logic at the time was "working for free is cheaper than tuition, and I'm going to learn a lot more."
In addition to learning about the industry, I learned a lot about getting by in life (at the industry jobs and at my many part-time jobs prior) and about the relative uselessness of a college degree.
Also of note: my old buddies from the neighborhood I grew up in either went to college or didn't, and either stayed in factory jobs or went into more lucrative and thoughtful industries -- but the dividing line between the destinations doesn't appear to jibe with the college/no college choice. Rather, it more or less lines up with how intelligent they seemed to be when they were fourteen years old.
One more thing: my father was the only one of his poor family who went on to relative prosperity. He was working as a security guard at IBM, and started teaching himself computers from the manuals that the staff left lying around. He eventually applied for and landed a job there, which started his lifetime career as a systems analyst. He also had only a few years of college under his belt.
Here's my immediate reaction: if it can say how fast I was going, and how I was using the controls, and where I am, it can know if I'm speeding or working the controls in a piss-poor fashion.
However, how can it identify the person who is speeding through traffic, whipping in and out of different lanes and driving right up on other cars (very dangerous on a crowded freeway, and very common here in LA) versus the person who is speeding along in a single lane of a winding road with no other traffic within sight?
In other words, without proximity data (as is, your proximity to other cars) -- and let's be honest, even with that data -- it's always going to come down to a judgement call based on less than perfect knowledge of the circumstances.
Or maybe I'm full of crap. It's hard to tell some days.
>But to claim that MST3K should have exclusive rights to poking fun at a movie is absurd.
Nobody's saying that, actually. The comments for the most part are calling out Best Brains' stated desire for them to stop using a similar name. That's all.
So that makes you claiming that people are claiming that MST3K should have exclusive rights to poking fun at a movie absurd, itself.;)
>The problem with trying to rectify yesterday's discriminatory practices with new ones is that, where does it end? For how long do we have to discriminate against whites to "properly" atone for the slavery of 140 years ago, or the economic discrimination of the hundred years that followed? 10 years? 50? 100? Forever?
Answer: until enough African Americans are allowed access to good educational opportunities that the labor pool is rich with highly qualified applicants for higher-level positions, until the hiring teams that review their applications stop noticing and discriminating against those with black sounding names, and until the affirmative-action requirements are routinely being exceeded as part of day-to-day hiring activity, so much so that verifying your companies' compliance with those requirements becomes a small footnote to the admin's year instead of something that regularly generates "We need to hit our AA hiring targets!" memos.
How long will that be? Well, that's up to all of us, isn't it?
Truth be told, I don't see it as a strictly African-American thing, either -- that's just where the attention is needed most. If we ever reach a point where this is a non-issue for African-Americans, we might look around and discover another group that could use the leg up. You know, that's what societies are supposed to do for its' members, last time I checked.
I should think it's a matter of balancing that with "The instant racism of bigotry" and "The cumulative racism of poor educational opportunities" and all that.
As a society, I think saying "we know that you could succeed as well as anybody else IF you had the same opportunities as everyone else, so we'll do our best to give you those opportunities" isn't about low expectations of the persons involved, but of our society's ability to give them an equal opportunity if left to itself.
>I don't like the liberalist propaganda I hear about how the government needs to be very big and intrusive in order to take care of its citizens.
These days, the conversative republican government is pushing (and implementing) big, intrusive government right now, and liberals are screaming bloody murder about the intrusions.
So, either things have changed recently, or "the liberalist propaganda" you've heard might actually be propaganda promoted by conservatives...
I've tried many in the last few years, as a daily desktop OS. XandrOS 2 came closer than any other, I was really pleased with it.
Then I tried the RC1 installer for Debian Sarge, upon which XandrOS (and Linspire) are based. Hands-down, the current Sarge release is the best desktop Linux I've ever tried. The clincher was when a friend sent me a video inside an email, and when I opened it in Thunderbird, the video started playing. Just like a real desktop OS should.:)
I'd tried Woody and Sid previously, and been underwhelmed -- but Sarge is terrific.
>I can take criticism of the president - it's important and needs to be done. But not when the main criticism is that he's :... >2) incompetent
Really? I should think that incompetence is a terrific reason to criticize someone. He is there to do a job, and he's not doing it well.
As for the point about political discourse, you're right. Liberals saying Bush looks like a monkey is like Conservatives saying Kerry "looks French"; it's a distraction from the real problems.
It must be said, though, in terms of the "is he sincere but misguided/incompetent, or is he doing wrong intentionally/for evil purposes" -- ask yourself this: if the person in question continues to do a poor job, even in the face of so much evidence that he's doing a poor job, do his reasons matter? If the end result is the same, I don't care if he is the most sincere person in the world -- he's still doing a poor job, and someone who can do a better job should take his place.
For what it's worth, I use FireFox at home, and so does my wife (who, once transferred against her will from IE and Eudora to FireFox and Thunderbird, has grown to love them and is now an evangelist for both in her workplace).
Amongst my coworkers at a technology company, I recently sent out a response to someone's email about IE that said "this is why you should use FireFox", and his response was, "I usually do -- I was testing with IE". An informal poll around the office showed an approximate 30% usage rate. I was surprised and pleased.
Where Mozilla failed in my little circle of the world, FireFox seems to have succeeded.
BeOS was very cool in this regard. You could keep a window open on your desktop with a search string, and as you updated/deleted/moved/renamed files on your machine, the window would update itself live.
As a matter of fact, you could also define and search custom attributes, so you could build a flat file database on top of the BFS filesystem, and your desktop queries would update themselves as records went in and out...
Better still to change your browser string to get yourself into the site, then (once you've found everything works fine) send a note that says
"Hey, just so you know, I surfed your site with (browser) with a hack to fool your site into thinking it was IE, and your entire site worked fine. So, your site is compatible with (browser). You can safely remove your "your browser is incompatible" message for this browser."
They might do it, they might not, but in this case you've done the work for them -- if you don't validate the site, some site-maintaining wonk has to convince their boss to pay for the new browser testing -- and many bosses won't do that.
>or I lock them in a locker or the trunk of my car
Don't try the trunk of your car in Chicago, even in the good neighborhoods. I've had windows broken and trunks entered for a duffel bag with a schoolhouse rock video tape. I've had trunks punched open with a screwdriver for some books. I once caught two kids in my car trying to pry an $18 tape player from under the dash. Hell, I once even left my car -- with nothing in it to steal, AND THE WINDOWS ALL HALFWAY DOWN -- and someone still punched a hold through the door skin to open the *unlocked* door with the *open* window.
You are hereby notified that your comments thread has run off the right side of my screen, causing me extensive suffering and anguish. The subpoena would be forthcoming, but my mouse is at the edge of the mousepad, so I can't get the cursor on top of the "Quicken EasyLawsuit 2000" application to click it.
...is one of the NX-series, although it came with Windows XP.
However, I have an installation of XandrOS 2.0 on it, and it runs just fine. The only thing missing is the power manager-type controls (which presumably HP's version of Suse Linux has) -- for me, it hasn't been a problem, since it's really used as a desktop machine that travels from office to office every month or so (versus one I carry daily), but I sure would love to have that power management stuff...
>What's a right mouse button?
The one adjacent to the wrong one.
>And if you want to keep your job, when someone says work 60 hours this week and Ill pay you for 40, you say "yes sir".
I'm in IT, and that happens to me now, every week.
Then again, my second job ever was in a grocery store in Chicago, and on my first day I had to clear carts out of a snow-covered parking lot in the dark. I thought, at the time, "at least it will always be better than this" -- but at the time, I also found it to be fun, because nobody was bothering me while I got the job done.
At the end of the day, a good job is one that:
- Gives you a guaranteed minimum amount of money;
- Gives you a guaranteed maximum number of hours;
- Has clearly established goals that can be achieved with some time left over for personal growth;
- Can see you going away for the weekend or on vacation without everything falling apart;
- Pays a good, solid living wage;
- Is not dangerous;
- Staffs people who respect you, and who are themselves worthy of respect;
- Does not impose arbitrary dress codes or other behaviors that do not have a direct impact on your job performance, but are mandatory anyway;
- Allows you to have pride in the results of your work, on your own terms.
Most jobs are missing a few of those. The truly awful ones are missing most of those. If you know of a job that has all of those, let me know.
Whoops -- I missed the part about it being for 100 miles. Yeah, I call BS on that one -- I'm now firmly on the "saw the cops coming and made up a story" side. :)
The Audi 5000, and many other cars over the years, have had reported cases of "unintended acceleration", often resulting in deaths. In most (if not all) cases, it turns out to be driver error, wherein the driver BELIEVES they're stomping on the brakes, but instead they're pressing the gas. The truth is, in all modern automobiles, the brakes can bring the car to a halt even with the accelerator floored.
Historically, this usually occurs when something else malfunctions and causes the driver to get distracted. In the case of the Audi 5000, it was an idle control that went awry, and when people shifted into drive with their foot off the brake, the higher idle would make the car lurch forward. They'd slam on the brakes, but accidentally hit the gas, and keep their foot to the floor until they hit something. They found this out by inviting a number of people who experienced this "unintended acceleration" to a parking lot, and had them drive engineers around for two days in front of cameras while the engineers played with the computer to force errors.
On the second day of this testing, a woman putting the car into reverse went tearing across the parking lot at high speed until the engineer reached over and shut the car off. She jumped out of the car, and on camera, shouted something like "It happened! There's your proof! The car is at fault!" -- but the cameras inside the car showed she had been hitting the gas, the cameras outside showed no brake lights, and the engineer riding with her bore witness as well.
As a result of this study, and all of the fallout surrounding the related lawsuits, the US requires an automatic transmission interlock on all cars sold here. You MUST have your foot on the brake to shift into gear.
- - -
Now, to the case at hand. I am fairly certain that this was the course of events:
1. The driver recently purchased the car, or it was a rental, so he was relatively unfamiliar with it (the Audi 5000 incident found that the vast majority of people having these incidents were drivers for whom the Audi was not the primary vehicle, or whom had just purchased it);
2. The driver was cruising along on cruise control, and pressed the gas without manually disengaging the control.
3. When the driver lifted off the gas and pulled back in, the car either didn't slow down as quickly as he thought it should (remember, we're assuming he was unfamiliar with the car), he accidentally hit the button to reset the cruise control to the newer, higher speed, or there was a genuine malfunction that reset the cruise to the newer, higher speed.
4. In the next few seconds that followed, he panicked and went for the brake -- but instead he hit the gas. Having done this, and firmly believing that he was hitting the brake to no effect, he continued to floor the gas. The car continued to accelerate.
5. Between trying to shut the car off, calling the police and swerving around traffic, it never occurred to him to look down and see if he was actually hitting the brake. No shame there; none of us would have, either.
6. As he approached the tollbooth, he made another attempt at the brakes (probably using both feet this time) and brought the car to a stop.
So, is the cruise control at fault? Possibly, but not definitely. Either way, similar past incidents suggest that it was a relatively minor issue until he hit the gas by mistake.
For what it's worth, with no witnesses in the car and no instruments monitoring, we'll never know for sure. Also, unless he realized his mistake just before stopping the car, he may well spend the rest of his life believing it's the car's fault -- and if he DID realize his mistake, there's no way he's ever going to admit it.
>...The perv in that case got off...
;)
I'm sure he/she did.
Regarding my above post -- before anyone yells "hey, you're not supposed to ask the questions here", it's a question I'm trying to get you people to think about, not a question that I'm asking them.
I have heard politicans (as well as pundits, columnists, and others) state that homosexuals should not marry, as the principal purpose of a marriage is to conceive and/or raise children. However, my wife and I have been unable to conceive, while more than one of our gay couple friends have successfully adopted children, or have conceived their own children via sperm donation. My question is, do you believe that having the ability to conceive and/or raise children is a principal purpose of a "legitimate" marriage, and if so, would you consider my own marriage illegitimate?
>8. Defines electronic dissemination as initiating a transmission of, making available, or otherwise offering, a commercial recording or audiovisual work for distribution on the Internet or other digital network.
>
>Key word INITIATING. A passive distributor (ISP, P2P "middle man", etc.) is protected. Only the active sender is a target.
Actually, I suspect a passive distributor would be "making available" or "otherwise offering" the material, wouldn't they?
A friend of mine, who has a Master's degree and is married to a college professor, recently called me "one of the smartest people (he'd) ever met".
He was flabbergasted to find out that I'd gone through the Chicago public grade/high school system, and had only completed a few years of commuter-school college before leaving to start my career at a no-paying job within my chosen industry. My logic at the time was "working for free is cheaper than tuition, and I'm going to learn a lot more."
In addition to learning about the industry, I learned a lot about getting by in life (at the industry jobs and at my many part-time jobs prior) and about the relative uselessness of a college degree.
Also of note: my old buddies from the neighborhood I grew up in either went to college or didn't, and either stayed in factory jobs or went into more lucrative and thoughtful industries -- but the dividing line between the destinations doesn't appear to jibe with the college/no college choice. Rather, it more or less lines up with how intelligent they seemed to be when they were fourteen years old.
One more thing: my father was the only one of his poor family who went on to relative prosperity. He was working as a security guard at IBM, and started teaching himself computers from the manuals that the staff left lying around. He eventually applied for and landed a job there, which started his lifetime career as a systems analyst. He also had only a few years of college under his belt.
Here's my immediate reaction: if it can say how fast I was going, and how I was using the controls, and where I am, it can know if I'm speeding or working the controls in a piss-poor fashion.
However, how can it identify the person who is speeding through traffic, whipping in and out of different lanes and driving right up on other cars (very dangerous on a crowded freeway, and very common here in LA) versus the person who is speeding along in a single lane of a winding road with no other traffic within sight?
In other words, without proximity data (as is, your proximity to other cars) -- and let's be honest, even with that data -- it's always going to come down to a judgement call based on less than perfect knowledge of the circumstances.
Or maybe I'm full of crap. It's hard to tell some days.
>But to claim that MST3K should have exclusive rights to poking fun at a movie is absurd.
;)
Nobody's saying that, actually. The comments for the most part are calling out Best Brains' stated desire for them to stop using a similar name. That's all.
So that makes you claiming that people are claiming that MST3K should have exclusive rights to poking fun at a movie absurd, itself.
>The problem with trying to rectify yesterday's discriminatory practices with new ones is that, where does it end? For how long do we have to discriminate against whites to "properly" atone for the slavery of 140 years ago, or the economic discrimination of the hundred years that followed? 10 years? 50? 100? Forever?
Answer: until enough African Americans are allowed access to good educational opportunities that the labor pool is rich with highly qualified applicants for higher-level positions, until the hiring teams that review their applications stop noticing and discriminating against those with black sounding names, and until the affirmative-action requirements are routinely being exceeded as part of day-to-day hiring activity, so much so that verifying your companies' compliance with those requirements becomes a small footnote to the admin's year instead of something that regularly generates "We need to hit our AA hiring targets!" memos.
How long will that be? Well, that's up to all of us, isn't it?
Truth be told, I don't see it as a strictly African-American thing, either -- that's just where the attention is needed most. If we ever reach a point where this is a non-issue for African-Americans, we might look around and discover another group that could use the leg up. You know, that's what societies are supposed to do for its' members, last time I checked.
>"The slow racism of low expectations"
I should think it's a matter of balancing that with "The instant racism of bigotry" and "The cumulative racism of poor educational opportunities" and all that.
As a society, I think saying "we know that you could succeed as well as anybody else IF you had the same opportunities as everyone else, so we'll do our best to give you those opportunities" isn't about low expectations of the persons involved, but of our society's ability to give them an equal opportunity if left to itself.
Very insightful post. Just wanted to mention:
>I don't like the liberalist propaganda I hear about how the government needs to be very big and intrusive in order to take care of its citizens.
These days, the conversative republican government is pushing (and implementing) big, intrusive government right now, and liberals are screaming bloody murder about the intrusions.
So, either things have changed recently, or "the liberalist propaganda" you've heard might actually be propaganda promoted by conservatives...
I've tried many in the last few years, as a daily desktop OS. XandrOS 2 came closer than any other, I was really pleased with it.
:)
Then I tried the RC1 installer for Debian Sarge, upon which XandrOS (and Linspire) are based. Hands-down, the current Sarge release is the best desktop Linux I've ever tried. The clincher was when a friend sent me a video inside an email, and when I opened it in Thunderbird, the video started playing. Just like a real desktop OS should.
I'd tried Woody and Sid previously, and been underwhelmed -- but Sarge is terrific.
http://www.club100.org/
Check 'em out. Cheap, unbreakable, full-size keyboard.
>I can take criticism of the president - it's important and needs to be done. But not when the main criticism is that he's : ...
>2) incompetent
Really? I should think that incompetence is a terrific reason to criticize someone. He is there to do a job, and he's not doing it well.
As for the point about political discourse, you're right. Liberals saying Bush looks like a monkey is like Conservatives saying Kerry "looks French"; it's a distraction from the real problems.
It must be said, though, in terms of the "is he sincere but misguided/incompetent, or is he doing wrong intentionally/for evil purposes" -- ask yourself this: if the person in question continues to do a poor job, even in the face of so much evidence that he's doing a poor job, do his reasons matter? If the end result is the same, I don't care if he is the most sincere person in the world -- he's still doing a poor job, and someone who can do a better job should take his place.
For what it's worth, I use FireFox at home, and so does my wife (who, once transferred against her will from IE and Eudora to FireFox and Thunderbird, has grown to love them and is now an evangelist for both in her workplace).
Amongst my coworkers at a technology company, I recently sent out a response to someone's email about IE that said "this is why you should use FireFox", and his response was, "I usually do -- I was testing with IE". An informal poll around the office showed an approximate 30% usage rate. I was surprised and pleased.
Where Mozilla failed in my little circle of the world, FireFox seems to have succeeded.
BeOS was very cool in this regard. You could keep a window open on your desktop with a search string, and as you updated/deleted/moved/renamed files on your machine, the window would update itself live.
As a matter of fact, you could also define and search custom attributes, so you could build a flat file database on top of the BFS filesystem, and your desktop queries would update themselves as records went in and out...
(that's the thing about BeOS I miss the most)
Better still to change your browser string to get yourself into the site, then (once you've found everything works fine) send a note that says
"Hey, just so you know, I surfed your site with (browser) with a hack to fool your site into thinking it was IE, and your entire site worked fine. So, your site is compatible with (browser). You can safely remove your "your browser is incompatible" message for this browser."
They might do it, they might not, but in this case you've done the work for them -- if you don't validate the site, some site-maintaining wonk has to convince their boss to pay for the new browser testing -- and many bosses won't do that.
Absolutely, positively "The Apple".
In Soviet Russia, the super-ant overlords welcome YOU.
>or I lock them in a locker or the trunk of my car
Don't try the trunk of your car in Chicago, even in the good neighborhoods. I've had windows broken and trunks entered for a duffel bag with a schoolhouse rock video tape. I've had trunks punched open with a screwdriver for some books. I once caught two kids in my car trying to pry an $18 tape player from under the dash. Hell, I once even left my car -- with nothing in it to steal, AND THE WINDOWS ALL HALFWAY DOWN -- and someone still punched a hold through the door skin to open the *unlocked* door with the *open* window.
You are hereby notified that your comments thread has run off the right side of my screen, causing me extensive suffering and anguish. The subpoena would be forthcoming, but my mouse is at the edge of the mousepad, so I can't get the cursor on top of the "Quicken EasyLawsuit 2000" application to click it.
...is one of the NX-series, although it came with Windows XP.
However, I have an installation of XandrOS 2.0 on it, and it runs just fine. The only thing missing is the power manager-type controls (which presumably HP's version of Suse Linux has) -- for me, it hasn't been a problem, since it's really used as a desktop machine that travels from office to office every month or so (versus one I carry daily), but I sure would love to have that power management stuff...