First France is not the biggest exception on producing their energy using oil/coal. Go a bit north from where you are (assuming US) and you have a neighbor that produces electricity in two ways, water or nuclear.
Next why do you assume that hydrogen is produced using electricity that stems from coal?
Germany has some HUGE wind farms and sunny areas can use solar. The advantage of using this approach to hydrogen is that you can ship the hydrogen from the producing areas to the consumption areas.
Will these areas be big enough to supply all the necessary energy? DAMM RIGHT! Canada has so much power from water that it is not even funny. And places like the middle east have so much sun that huge solar powerplants could be created. Sorry but the hydrogen economy is not a dream....
Yes standards can be a pain and they can stifle innovation. But there are trade offs. And that is chaos. As much as innovation is a noble goal it has to be traded off with standards.
For example take WiFi. Gee imagine we had ten different WiFi protocols. What would we get? The North American Cellular phone standards where everybody has their own freaken way of doing things.
Yes standards should solve a problem, but standards are required. Imagine everybody deciding by themselves which side of the road to drive on. Or deciding that some people want 40 volts another wants 90 volts, etc.
Why not use defacto standards? Because defacto standards might become out of date standards. This is not to say that they should not be investigated, but if there is a standard that works use it....
It is amazing how one sided news can be. Ask yourself this question. Would you rely on the European GPS if it were the only game in town? Would you rely on the European GPS for your military if it were the only game in town?
I am almost willing to bet yes for the first question, but no for the second. Maybe even no for the first. But then I turn the tables and say since you might answered the questions in that fashion why should you expect that we do otherwise? Seriously! As sad as it sounds right now there is a President that has done nothing more than make the hawks of any government happy!
In the 90's these terms were easy. But not these days. When the supply of developers exceeds the demand then the company has the upper hand fair and square. There is nothing that you can do against it....
Yes you are right about not being such a simple issue. But lets take things one step at a time. First Philip Morrise sells cigarettes among other things. Hence using them as an example is a REALLY bad idea.
But the issue of profit and valuation is a valid one since it can be used to define the P/E ratio. And if there is one thing that can be defined as a good and bad it is a the P/E ratio.
Do we really have to be scared? Ok so they have Boies. Hmmm, lets see the track record. MS trial, oh yeah that got far.... The end result was nothing and did not even slow MS down. Then Napster, which got where? Oh yeah Napster does not even exist anymore.... But yet Sherman with her file sharing company actually got some wins...
To be frank his track record is not that good!!!
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Ok thanks for clearing up my misunderstanding. The reason I was coy is because I wonder. I do not want to say MS because I am not exactly sure. Everything just puzzles me a bit and this has me wondering. Most things have an ulterior motive and I am trying to figure out what this one is.
I am not suggesting that when the USA goes home that they will build up a massive army.
Ok, the US went in and cleaned house. Was this good or was this bad? I think only history will say if it was good or bad. Because until then everything is a debate.
But moving on. What concerns me right now is that in the Middle East there is a quite a fundenmentalist movement. This is not to be underestimated. Sure they point out the US, but they might as well be pointing to Europe and North America at the same time. It is just the US happens to be the easiest to point at.
The problem right now is that Iraq even will the oil might not have enough money. When Germany had to repay their debts they were degraded and controlled. Germans resented that. Result? You had a nutcase come into control of Germany. That ressentment could have so unknown outcomes in the Middle East. I am not saying Hitler Version 2.0, but I am saying something not predictable may occur...
1) Iraq has a mountain of debt to pay because as a result of the end of the war everyone is coming in with their bills. INCLUDING the US.
2) The money laid out now by the US is coming back from oil revenue.
3) The GSM standard is not just a French standard, but a worldwide standard. CDMA could have been a worldwide standard, but Qualcomm has its head stuck up its butt.
Do you want to know what the main concern now is? That Iraq will be crushed under their debt. They did some stats and found out that when Iraq is pumping oil at its peak, that will only account for 20 billion dollars. That is not even close to being enough money to pay back everybody. And the concern is that it could turn into a world war 1 fiasco.
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I really do wonder about this. Why all of the sudden this interest? Remember that a certain company does own some of SCO.
Also is it not interesting that somebody decides to buy a license just now? Yes it could be to save their hide later down the road. Oddly also lately the Open Source topic by them happened to not exist. They just talked about their new product launches, etc. It seemed odd to me...
Maybe this is just conspiracy thinking, but I do think there is more to this than meets the eye. The question though is who is involved....
You see here is where I see things very different. The SPV has more features, AND??? So what.
With my T68i, I have tri-band phone, that is light works for a very long time without recharging. Supports bluetooth, Syncing with PDA's and other computers. I can create notes and exchange data.
Ok maybe most of this stuff you can do with the SPV, but on the T68i it works without large amounts of effort. I turn it on and it simply works. The SPV is simply too big and bulky and too complicated.
This is where I see companies like Microsoft simply not getting it. It is not about packing features, but doing what you want when you want. This is why Nokia does well and why Sony Ericsson saved their butt with the t68i.
Your one sidedness is as bad as the parent poster one sidedness.
The SPV has some definite issues. It is not comparable to other phones (eg my T68i). MS by releasing a service pack for the SPV is using a PC frame of mind when developing phones. This is just not the way things are done. Likewise with the branding where the phone is tied to the network.
At our university we had central databases for user fees, etc. This meant when you did a printout anywhere on the university it was automatically charged to your user account. Everybody was networked and connected. For example a simple printout would cost x cents and a color printout would cost y cents.
This included things like photocopies. We had people who would literally photocopy books because they did not want to pay for the book. It was not cheap to photocopy a book (40 vs 60 dollars), but they did it.
Ok some people still abused their priviledges, but at least they paid for it. We all just wondered why they did it....
Ok, being an engineer this is a tough one. I graduated from University of Waterloo. A place where computers are in excess. This means everywhere there is a computer. I am not saying it is a bad thing. The professors knew this and as result adapted. They had us do all equations theoretically using letters and equations. Rarely did we actually have add two numbers. For these scenarios the computer did not help one bit. These days the first year courses could be solved by MathCad and the likes.
So in first year I would ban computers just so that people get the jist of things. But after that the computers do not help you because you need to think about the equations and structure...
Computers do impede the child's ability to learn. Because the child can get easy answers to solutions. You have to learn to walk before you can run. Granted once you can walk, you should not have to spend your life walking.
BTW an example of where this has happened, not directly is video games. As an old fogy when I was a child we had video games and traditional toys. I opted for the traditional toys because I had more fun with it. But these days most are opting for video games. Result? Kids have better reflexes, but much lower levels of creativity. That is not a good thing....
[sarcasm]Why not just go out and flog them? I mean it was fun back in the good old days. Made for some interesting watching.[/sarcasm].
If I pay for something (and usually do in one form or another), then I better be damm able to use it. And if I want to print out 3000 pages, then let me print out 3000 pages. It is my choice and nobody should stop me.
If you say, but hey this is free, then do what many other universities do, charge an amount That way you leave the option open and collect money at the same time.
I am not convinced about generics. Generics with a test bed being C++ created nothing but nightmares.
Before generics it was possible to take a C++ program and integrate it with another C++ library without much hassle. Sort of like how it is with C these days. Integration is not that difficult.
Java integration is an absolute piece of cake. There are no issues whatsoever. But I fear generics is going to complicate this situation immensly.
What I get concerned about templates is not the List type templates. Those are ok. Actually pretty nice solution. What concerns me is when we start the following List > > >. This is where C++ integration falls flat on its face. And I fear the same will happen to Java.
Additionally what I always liked about Java is that it was simple to get things done. Generics adds a complication that most programmers do have problems with.
Having said all that I am curious to see how it all plays out. But there is one BS statement:
Without generics, you discover such a bug when your most important customer calls your VP to tell him that the program on which his business depends just crashed with a ClassCastException.
Yeah right and these "crash the business" bugs will disappear? Oh yeah, and let me show you my porfolio of land in Florida!
When reading these comments people keep saying, oh yeah wanna see how fast Linux people hack this computer.
Well, you raise a really interesting point. You cannot hack into these machines BECAUSE of the DMCA. The printer toner cartriges are an excellent precedent for this.
What will be the outcome? I think a two tier approach. Companies like HP trying to desparately improve their bottom line. See the pattern here? First they are cozy with IBM, then Compaq, then Dell and now HP. MS is only cozy to those that do their bidding and that typically lasts about five years. Notice also how is dying and who is gaining? HP!
The two tier has already been developing among programmers (those that do.NET and the rest that do not).
I think the point is that there would not be another system. We are so thinking that there is a next big thing. The 90's did this to us. But what would happen if there is nothing? Imagine that this is about as good as it gets using our current system?
It is not that much fun to think about because it means we were on the wrong side. But it is a thought that needs comptemplation....
I would agree with this statement that this is Reagan and Thatcher thinking and the current Bush Administration.
For example health care. I have a friend that cannot get his knee insured because he had a soccer accident in university. This is not right. Ok I am not a fan of health care that supports everything. But the essentials are not debatable. It is human dignity.
It is sad that the world has ended up like this...
Are the principles that wrong? Or have we just lost common sense?
The law seems to get shoved around to suit specific peoples needs. Typically those of larger corporations and entities.
For example here in Germany everybody knows reforms are necessary, but nobody wants to have the reform affect them.
In a recent business there was a book that sometimes democracy is not the best thing. What is important at the end of day is not democracy, but personal freedom. If anyone is interested I can hunt the book reference down....
It seems to me that politics and the likes has lost perspective.
Is there not a problem in society when somebody is patenting a gene to keep in the free market? I am glad that they are doing it, but I see a bigger problem.
Are politicians that DAFT to see what is going wrong?
It seems to me that politicians are making simple stuff complex. The more and more I see this stuff I really wonder if Western civilization is collapsing. Somebody said this once to me on flight to Boston in 2002. They said 9/11 was the high water mark in Western Civilization. Like the Roman empire that eventually disappeared so too will the Western society....
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I think there are multiple reasons here...
Most of the countries named have an actual infrastructure. EG I doubt Romania, Russia, Hungary, the Czech Republic have electricity problems.
Many of the Eastern European countries are not that far away from the Western markets, with some actually joining the European Union.
All in all it just makes for simpler business....
Funny though... (in an ironic sense)
Ok, You are right and wrong here.
First France is not the biggest exception on producing their energy using oil/coal. Go a bit north from where you are (assuming US) and you have a neighbor that produces electricity in two ways, water or nuclear.
Next why do you assume that hydrogen is produced using electricity that stems from coal?
Germany has some HUGE wind farms and sunny areas can use solar. The advantage of using this approach to hydrogen is that you can ship the hydrogen from the producing areas to the consumption areas.
Will these areas be big enough to supply all the necessary energy? DAMM RIGHT! Canada has so much power from water that it is not even funny. And places like the middle east have so much sun that huge solar powerplants could be created. Sorry but the hydrogen economy is not a dream....
Yes standards can be a pain and they can stifle innovation. But there are trade offs. And that is chaos. As much as innovation is a noble goal it has to be traded off with standards.
For example take WiFi. Gee imagine we had ten different WiFi protocols. What would we get? The North American Cellular phone standards where everybody has their own freaken way of doing things.
Yes standards should solve a problem, but standards are required. Imagine everybody deciding by themselves which side of the road to drive on. Or deciding that some people want 40 volts another wants 90 volts, etc.
Why not use defacto standards? Because defacto standards might become out of date standards. This is not to say that they should not be investigated, but if there is a standard that works use it....
Take a look at this URL http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press .htm
Gee it REALLY does sound like he was supporting Hussein! Why? Because he was not to loose against the Iranians!
Now about the Clinton pictures. Of course he was shaking Arafat's hands. Why? Because during the 90's there was a peace mission going on.
Please next time you get your facts straight as well.
It is amazing how one sided news can be. Ask yourself this question. Would you rely on the European GPS if it were the only game in town? Would you rely on the European GPS for your military if it were the only game in town?
I am almost willing to bet yes for the first question, but no for the second. Maybe even no for the first. But then I turn the tables and say since you might answered the questions in that fashion why should you expect that we do otherwise? Seriously! As sad as it sounds right now there is a President that has done nothing more than make the hawks of any government happy!
In the 90's these terms were easy. But not these days. When the supply of developers exceeds the demand then the company has the upper hand fair and square. There is nothing that you can do against it....
Yes you are right about not being such a simple issue. But lets take things one step at a time. First Philip Morrise sells cigarettes among other things. Hence using them as an example is a REALLY bad idea.
But the issue of profit and valuation is a valid one since it can be used to define the P/E ratio. And if there is one thing that can be defined as a good and bad it is a the P/E ratio.
Do we really have to be scared? Ok so they have Boies. Hmmm, lets see the track record. MS trial, oh yeah that got far.... The end result was nothing and did not even slow MS down. Then Napster, which got where? Oh yeah Napster does not even exist anymore.... But yet Sherman with her file sharing company actually got some wins...
To be frank his track record is not that good!!!
Ok thanks for clearing up my misunderstanding. The reason I was coy is because I wonder. I do not want to say MS because I am not exactly sure. Everything just puzzles me a bit and this has me wondering. Most things have an ulterior motive and I am trying to figure out what this one is.
I am not suggesting that when the USA goes home that they will build up a massive army.
Ok, the US went in and cleaned house. Was this good or was this bad? I think only history will say if it was good or bad. Because until then everything is a debate.
But moving on. What concerns me right now is that in the Middle East there is a quite a fundenmentalist movement. This is not to be underestimated. Sure they point out the US, but they might as well be pointing to Europe and North America at the same time. It is just the US happens to be the easiest to point at.
The problem right now is that Iraq even will the oil might not have enough money. When Germany had to repay their debts they were degraded and controlled. Germans resented that. Result? You had a nutcase come into control of Germany. That ressentment could have so unknown outcomes in the Middle East. I am not saying Hitler Version 2.0, but I am saying something not predictable may occur...
Do you actually read the news?
The US taxpayer is not footing the bill!
1) Iraq has a mountain of debt to pay because as a result of the end of the war everyone is coming in with their bills. INCLUDING the US.
2) The money laid out now by the US is coming back from oil revenue.
3) The GSM standard is not just a French standard, but a worldwide standard. CDMA could have been a worldwide standard, but Qualcomm has its head stuck up its butt.
Do you want to know what the main concern now is? That Iraq will be crushed under their debt. They did some stats and found out that when Iraq is pumping oil at its peak, that will only account for 20 billion dollars. That is not even close to being enough money to pay back everybody. And the concern is that it could turn into a world war 1 fiasco.
I really do wonder about this. Why all of the sudden this interest? Remember that a certain company does own some of SCO.
Also is it not interesting that somebody decides to buy a license just now? Yes it could be to save their hide later down the road. Oddly also lately the Open Source topic by them happened to not exist. They just talked about their new product launches, etc. It seemed odd to me...
Maybe this is just conspiracy thinking, but I do think there is more to this than meets the eye. The question though is who is involved....
You see here is where I see things very different. The SPV has more features, AND??? So what.
With my T68i, I have tri-band phone, that is light works for a very long time without recharging. Supports bluetooth, Syncing with PDA's and other computers. I can create notes and exchange data.
Ok maybe most of this stuff you can do with the SPV, but on the T68i it works without large amounts of effort. I turn it on and it simply works. The SPV is simply too big and bulky and too complicated.
This is where I see companies like Microsoft simply not getting it. It is not about packing features, but doing what you want when you want. This is why Nokia does well and why Sony Ericsson saved their butt with the t68i.
Your one sidedness is as bad as the parent poster one sidedness.
The SPV has some definite issues. It is not comparable to other phones (eg my T68i). MS by releasing a service pack for the SPV is using a PC frame of mind when developing phones. This is just not the way things are done. Likewise with the branding where the phone is tied to the network.
Ok, just comparing notes now....
At our university we had central databases for user fees, etc. This meant when you did a printout anywhere on the university it was automatically charged to your user account. Everybody was networked and connected. For example a simple printout would cost x cents and a color printout would cost y cents.
This included things like photocopies. We had people who would literally photocopy books because they did not want to pay for the book. It was not cheap to photocopy a book (40 vs 60 dollars), but they did it.
Ok some people still abused their priviledges, but at least they paid for it. We all just wondered why they did it....
Ok, being an engineer this is a tough one. I graduated from University of Waterloo. A place where computers are in excess. This means everywhere there is a computer. I am not saying it is a bad thing. The professors knew this and as result adapted. They had us do all equations theoretically using letters and equations. Rarely did we actually have add two numbers. For these scenarios the computer did not help one bit. These days the first year courses could be solved by MathCad and the likes.
So in first year I would ban computers just so that people get the jist of things. But after that the computers do not help you because you need to think about the equations and structure...
Computers do impede the child's ability to learn. Because the child can get easy answers to solutions. You have to learn to walk before you can run. Granted once you can walk, you should not have to spend your life walking.
BTW an example of where this has happened, not directly is video games. As an old fogy when I was a child we had video games and traditional toys. I opted for the traditional toys because I had more fun with it. But these days most are opting for video games. Result? Kids have better reflexes, but much lower levels of creativity. That is not a good thing....
[sarcasm]Why not just go out and flog them? I mean it was fun back in the good old days. Made for some interesting watching.[/sarcasm].
If I pay for something (and usually do in one form or another), then I better be damm able to use it. And if I want to print out 3000 pages, then let me print out 3000 pages. It is my choice and nobody should stop me.
If you say, but hey this is free, then do what many other universities do, charge an amount That way you leave the option open and collect money at the same time.
I added a whole bunch of brackets and the browser is cutting them out....
Here is where I get concerned with brackets
List[ Container[ Container[ String, Object[Long] ] ] ]
That is complicated
I am not convinced about generics. Generics with a test bed being C++ created nothing but nightmares.
Before generics it was possible to take a C++ program and integrate it with another C++ library without much hassle. Sort of like how it is with C these days. Integration is not that difficult.
Java integration is an absolute piece of cake. There are no issues whatsoever. But I fear generics is going to complicate this situation immensly.
What I get concerned about templates is not the List type templates. Those are ok. Actually pretty nice solution. What concerns me is when we start the following List > > >. This is where C++ integration falls flat on its face. And I fear the same will happen to Java.
Additionally what I always liked about Java is that it was simple to get things done. Generics adds a complication that most programmers do have problems with.
Having said all that I am curious to see how it all plays out. But there is one BS statement:
Without generics, you discover such a bug when your most important customer calls your VP to tell him that the program on which his business depends just crashed with a ClassCastException.
Yeah right and these "crash the business" bugs will disappear? Oh yeah, and let me show you my porfolio of land in Florida!
When reading these comments people keep saying, oh yeah wanna see how fast Linux people hack this computer.
.NET and the rest that do not).
Well, you raise a really interesting point. You cannot hack into these machines BECAUSE of the DMCA. The printer toner cartriges are an excellent precedent for this.
What will be the outcome? I think a two tier approach. Companies like HP trying to desparately improve their bottom line. See the pattern here? First they are cozy with IBM, then Compaq, then Dell and now HP. MS is only cozy to those that do their bidding and that typically lasts about five years. Notice also how is dying and who is gaining? HP!
The two tier has already been developing among programmers (those that do
I think the point is that there would not be another system. We are so thinking that there is a next big thing. The 90's did this to us. But what would happen if there is nothing? Imagine that this is about as good as it gets using our current system?
It is not that much fun to think about because it means we were on the wrong side. But it is a thought that needs comptemplation....
I would agree with this statement that this is Reagan and Thatcher thinking and the current Bush Administration.
For example health care. I have a friend that cannot get his knee insured because he had a soccer accident in university. This is not right. Ok I am not a fan of health care that supports everything. But the essentials are not debatable. It is human dignity.
It is sad that the world has ended up like this...
Are the principles that wrong? Or have we just lost common sense?
The law seems to get shoved around to suit specific peoples needs. Typically those of larger corporations and entities.
For example here in Germany everybody knows reforms are necessary, but nobody wants to have the reform affect them.
In a recent business there was a book that sometimes democracy is not the best thing. What is important at the end of day is not democracy, but personal freedom. If anyone is interested I can hunt the book reference down....
It seems to me that politics and the likes has lost perspective.
Is there not a problem in society when somebody is patenting a gene to keep in the free market? I am glad that they are doing it, but I see a bigger problem.
Are politicians that DAFT to see what is going wrong?
It seems to me that politicians are making simple stuff complex. The more and more I see this stuff I really wonder if Western civilization is collapsing. Somebody said this once to me on flight to Boston in 2002. They said 9/11 was the high water mark in Western Civilization. Like the Roman empire that eventually disappeared so too will the Western society....
Because all the Europeans are outsourcing to there....