no, the court orders are forwarded to the registrars/site owners, and they have 5 days to "react" to it. very short time period.. but that reaction could be from the site owner.. going to court to challenge the order, or by the registrar/host by turning off the lights on the site. No action within 5 days, poof or face further legal action. Of course if I were a host, I'd shut down and ask questions later, since i'm immune from any damages it makes the most business sense.
it doesn't outline exactly what the reaction should be within that 5 day period. but it's pretty clear about AFTER the 5 day period.
of course.. I only read SOPA.. haven't looked at PIPA yet
freedom extends until it interferes with another's freedoms. Laws exist to protect us from the people who believe otherwise. unfortunately the people that believe otherwise in this case, are the law makers. So law enforcement as the public face of the law makers bare the brunt.
the real problem is the number of law enforcement personnel who walk away from these interactions mad at the citizen they interact with, and not the law makers for making them assault the people.
I have many family members that are in law enforcement, practically every time they end up in a bad situation with a "stop" it's because they forgot who to be mad at.
oh, the new stuff is out there and in use by a number of people.. but because it's a medical device instead of a toy made by hasboro it's 20k instead of 300 dollars. which one do you think is covered by .
if you add the word medical to your product you increase it's cost by 1000%(don't worry, you've got insurance right?), tactical only gets you about 175% anymore(because the government seems more worried about "cyber").. and cyber seems to have moved into the negatives in the private space, though that gubbment check can make up for it.. i think they actually called the naked body scanners cyber medical scanners for tactical purposes.. so we're gettin raped on taxes as WELL as in the airports!
this only works if the user knows for a fact that say, cocacola isn't running some sort of viral internet ad campaign as goatse.cx.. it could be animated animals with the new coke X for all people know.
perhaps a better method might be to have the scanner software "cloud based"(wooo buzz words!) and server side pull a thumbnail of the site to be displayed.
sure you get goatse'd.. but you don't get ZOMG I GAWTS YER UDID!!!111'd
and these documents are from a perpetual "war on cold" ha ha, but seriously. the rooski's were our "enemies" for a lot longer than terrorists have been.
once you get into the realm of confiscation the whole things falls apart.. maybe a "you aren't allowed on the intarwebs" type ruling.. though today that would be pretty much un-enforcable.
Of course in this case.. it's also not like the guy didn't KNOW it was stolen goods. He freely admitted it. Down side there is you either have copyright laws.. or corporate espionage to deal with. he didn't steal it, but he received with the intent to distribute. But you have to look at the culture you're fighting with these laws. Sadly, the internet culture doesn't seem to care about people "being made example of" which is why we have escalated to crap like SOAP and the ip act.
if it's between those, and some uploader getting a year in jail.. for the love of the spaghetti monster give the guy a year!
i think the logic would be more akin to the guy who bought your stereo from the guy who bought your stereo, from the guy who bought your stolen stereo from the guy who broke into your house and took your stereo, shouldn't be held responsible for breaking into your house.
while I don't think we need more nanny laws (increase fines when i do something stupid and have the cell phone in my ear and my seat belt whipping in the wind) a person in the car has a specific need to shut the hell up and not bother you when you're suddenly dodging burning barrels and zombies. the person on the phone not so much.
except you can get to the same result with a different purpose or end number. sort of like saying you can't patent a new type of car because it's just the sum of it's parts.
there IS space for software patents. there isn't space for component software patents. sure patent MS office, trademark the "look and feel", but don't patent the "ribbon" that is like "patenting" the sound of a harley. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2007#Patenting_controversy
I've often wondered why there isn't a proper setup here. I mean why are they connected? if not why can people access them directly?
I mean.. you can whitelist traffic instead of blacklisting.. you KNOW what is supposed to happen between the "critical side" and it's controller machine.. block anything that doesn't fit that mold.. done
as an override have a terminal that connects to the control box with a door that sets off every siren in the world when opened. basically saying, something went horribly wrong.
true iphones fail slightly more often than blackberries in my organization.. and are broken/"lost" FAR more often. apple laptops are great.. for consumers, once you make a corporate image and strip out all of that crap that makes "it just work" (file sharing, web servers, the basic "consumer facing junk" that is called bloatware if it's on a dell) it has the same random lockups and freezes as a corporate windows machine. though failure is less common, it is MUCH more spectacular.. generally total loss, hope you were using your network drive sort of failure.
I think a better study would be the "feature gap" of those updates.
though software just not being updated is, from a security perspective, terrible, which sadly puts the iphone in a more secure arena than any android device..
with the iphone there are always little things that don't get enabled with the update if you don't have the newest hardware. Hopefully ICS will pave the way for this same manner of thinking in the android world. though looking at "the list" of equipment that will be getting it, it's looking like that idea is catching on like pogs.
my only worry is the problems I've heard about earthquakes near these things.. i mean sure.. you can power a city, but if it falls over every 2 years because of the increase in activity.. then what?
and that is why these things never do as intended.. well that and our stupid system that makes a law about taxes on gas include something for kids wearing bicycle helmets.
this isn't that hard, but we have people pretending to be idiots to get it skewed WAY too far to one side or another.
#1 Ip should be purchased as a license, regardless of media or representation 1a. This license uses a version system as in software. "upgrading" from vhs to blueray quality has a cost, around 30 bucks per disk at present, using that model we can say v1 = vhs quality, v2 = dvd quality, v3 = hd quality v4 = 3d v5 = holographic.. yadda yadda 1b. traversing up this license list = 10 dollar increments #2. Lending of these licenses legally should remove your rights to these licenses for a set term. (if you lend someone a cd.. you can't then listen to that cd yourself, deal with it) 2a. increments of license versions should allow multiple "shared copies" at $x per "share" 2b. if you break the law, you pay damages = to $x per share x estimated # of observable downloads 2c. The provider of the ip is required to have in place or join a system to enforce the above or no damages will be awarded
that covers the legal side of things for the most part... here come the arguments "that'll never work! no one will listen! it's not enforceable! the system can never work!"
the "system" should be some form of device or application you have that can be used to facilitate this sort of usage. and before the screams of "they're gonna track me!" start.. go buy a cd with cash and get off my internets. they were tracking you when you downloaded it/bought it with a card/check/whatever electronic form of not cash you used, it's just a matter of WHO you let track you. o noes! they are going to show me ads!
but the stalemate will continue because you have the side that doesn't want to pay, the side that wants you to pay, and the side that wants the digital equivalent of a cabin in the montana wilderness in the digital equivalent of grand central station.
but the "costs become too great" requires emotional response. the cost of fuel in most countries is 3 times ours... and they are cruising along with the same vigor we are.
we have a looooooooooong way to go before the first person burns to death because of global warming.. and even longer until it's someone that people might get up in arms about.
and the intarwebs doesn't have it either! it's so underground it can only be obtained illegally, that way listening to it is illegal, which is why it's so underground.
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i prefer to think it's being strip mined
or global warming...
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no, the court orders are forwarded to the registrars/site owners, and they have 5 days to "react" to it.
very short time period.. but that reaction could be from the site owner.. going to court to challenge the order, or by the registrar/host by turning off the lights on the site. No action within 5 days, poof or face further legal action. Of course if I were a host, I'd shut down and ask questions later, since i'm immune from any damages it makes the most business sense.
it doesn't outline exactly what the reaction should be within that 5 day period. but it's pretty clear about AFTER the 5 day period.
of course.. I only read SOPA.. haven't looked at PIPA yet
freedom extends until it interferes with another's freedoms.
Laws exist to protect us from the people who believe otherwise.
unfortunately the people that believe otherwise in this case, are the law makers.
So law enforcement as the public face of the law makers bare the brunt.
the real problem is the number of law enforcement personnel who walk away from these interactions mad at the citizen they interact with, and not the law makers for making them assault the people.
I have many family members that are in law enforcement, practically every time they end up in a bad situation with a "stop" it's because they forgot who to be mad at.
woops "insert big bad insurance company here" got taken out after "which one do you think is covered by"
oh, the new stuff is out there and in use by a number of people.. but because it's a medical device instead of a toy made by hasboro it's 20k instead of 300 dollars. which one do you think is covered by .
if you add the word medical to your product you increase it's cost by 1000%(don't worry, you've got insurance right?), tactical only gets you about 175% anymore(because the government seems more worried about "cyber").. and cyber seems to have moved into the negatives in the private space, though that gubbment check can make up for it.. i think they actually called the naked body scanners cyber medical scanners for tactical purposes.. so we're gettin raped on taxes as WELL as in the airports!
this only works if the user knows for a fact that say, cocacola isn't running some sort of viral internet ad campaign as goatse.cx.. it could be animated animals with the new coke X for all people know.
perhaps a better method might be to have the scanner software "cloud based"(wooo buzz words!) and server side pull a thumbnail of the site to be displayed.
sure you get goatse'd.. but you don't get ZOMG I GAWTS YER UDID!!!111'd
and these documents are from a perpetual "war on cold" ha ha, but seriously. the rooski's were our "enemies" for a lot longer than terrorists have been.
once you get into the realm of confiscation the whole things falls apart.. maybe a "you aren't allowed on the intarwebs" type ruling.. though today that would be pretty much un-enforcable.
Of course in this case.. it's also not like the guy didn't KNOW it was stolen goods. He freely admitted it. Down side there is you either have copyright laws.. or corporate espionage to deal with. he didn't steal it, but he received with the intent to distribute. But you have to look at the culture you're fighting with these laws. Sadly, the internet culture doesn't seem to care about people "being made example of" which is why we have escalated to crap like SOAP and the ip act.
if it's between those, and some uploader getting a year in jail.. for the love of the spaghetti monster give the guy a year!
i think the logic would be more akin to the guy who bought your stereo from the guy who bought your stereo, from the guy who bought your stolen stereo from the guy who broke into your house and took your stereo, shouldn't be held responsible for breaking into your house.
while I don't think we need more nanny laws (increase fines when i do something stupid and have the cell phone in my ear and my seat belt whipping in the wind) a person in the car has a specific need to shut the hell up and not bother you when you're suddenly dodging burning barrels and zombies. the person on the phone not so much.
internet toughbot? ha ha
except you can get to the same result with a different purpose or end number.
sort of like saying you can't patent a new type of car because it's just the sum of it's parts.
there IS space for software patents.
there isn't space for component software patents.
sure patent MS office, trademark the "look and feel", but don't patent the "ribbon" that is like "patenting" the sound of a harley.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Office_2007#Patenting_controversy
republican candidates, democratic candidates.. all the same, MADE IN TIAWAN!
I've often wondered why there isn't a proper setup here.
I mean why are they connected?
if not
why can people access them directly?
I mean.. you can whitelist traffic instead of blacklisting.. you KNOW what is supposed to happen between the "critical side" and it's controller machine.. block anything that doesn't fit that mold.. done
as an override have a terminal that connects to the control box with a door that sets off every siren in the world when opened. basically saying, something went horribly wrong.
true
iphones fail slightly more often than blackberries in my organization.. and are broken/"lost" FAR more often.
apple laptops are great.. for consumers, once you make a corporate image and strip out all of that crap that makes "it just work" (file sharing, web servers, the basic "consumer facing junk" that is called bloatware if it's on a dell) it has the same random lockups and freezes as a corporate windows machine. though failure is less common, it is MUCH more spectacular.. generally total loss, hope you were using your network drive sort of failure.
you know.. i prefer to think it was because he was a douche... but if he wasn't, this is probably the best answer I've ever seen.
I think a better study would be the "feature gap" of those updates.
though software just not being updated is, from a security perspective, terrible, which sadly puts the iphone in a more secure arena than any android device..
with the iphone there are always little things that don't get enabled with the update if you don't have the newest hardware. Hopefully ICS will pave the way for this same manner of thinking in the android world. though looking at "the list" of equipment that will be getting it, it's looking like that idea is catching on like pogs.
laws that impact citizens are when it comes to "Think of the Children", "Thar be Terrorists" and "Here's some money for bread and circus".
reelection, cash income from "security companies", reelection (and/or stock market boost for retail companies)
my only worry is the problems I've heard about earthquakes near these things.. i mean sure.. you can power a city, but if it falls over every 2 years because of the increase in activity.. then what?
and that is why these things never do as intended.. well that and our stupid system that makes a law about taxes on gas include something for kids wearing bicycle helmets.
this isn't that hard, but we have people pretending to be idiots to get it skewed WAY too far to one side or another.
#1 Ip should be purchased as a license, regardless of media or representation
1a. This license uses a version system as in software. "upgrading" from vhs to blueray quality has a cost, around 30 bucks per disk at present, using that model we can say v1 = vhs quality, v2 = dvd quality, v3 = hd quality v4 = 3d v5 = holographic.. yadda yadda
1b. traversing up this license list = 10 dollar increments
#2. Lending of these licenses legally should remove your rights to these licenses for a set term. (if you lend someone a cd.. you can't then listen to that cd yourself, deal with it)
2a. increments of license versions should allow multiple "shared copies" at $x per "share"
2b. if you break the law, you pay damages = to $x per share x estimated # of observable downloads
2c. The provider of the ip is required to have in place or join a system to enforce the above or no damages will be awarded
that covers the legal side of things for the most part... here come the arguments "that'll never work! no one will listen! it's not enforceable! the system can never work!"
the "system" should be some form of device or application you have that can be used to facilitate this sort of usage. and before the screams of "they're gonna track me!" start.. go buy a cd with cash and get off my internets. they were tracking you when you downloaded it/bought it with a card/check/whatever electronic form of not cash you used, it's just a matter of WHO you let track you. o noes! they are going to show me ads!
but the stalemate will continue because you have the side that doesn't want to pay, the side that wants you to pay, and the side that wants the digital equivalent of a cabin in the montana wilderness in the digital equivalent of grand central station.
but the "costs become too great" requires emotional response.
the cost of fuel in most countries is 3 times ours... and they are cruising along with the same vigor we are.
we have a looooooooooong way to go before the first person burns to death because of global warming.. and even longer until it's someone that people might get up in arms about.
what this conversation was about...
http://gizmodo.com/5503004/steve-jobs-and-eric-schmidt-spotted-together-again-photos
and the intarwebs doesn't have it either! it's so underground it can only be obtained illegally, that way listening to it is illegal, which is why it's so underground.