would only physical flags be protected, or would it also be illegal to have a screensaver that has a animation of a burning flag (possibly superimposed upon the text of the First Amendment) ?
what about video coverage of a physically burning flag? would possession of that that be illegal? or maybe just watching a video like that would be illegal?
More generally, the fact remains that Perl's user/developer base is
still much larger than ours. Successful unification would co-opt a
lot of that energy for Python.
Unification? It reminds me of Vulcan and Romulus:)
no i am not familiar with your work, but as I have no reason to think you a liar, i will take your response at face value and apologise to you. But, your single handed rejection of open source software does identoify you as someone who ascribes to an agenda. Maybe you arent a shill, but you are parroting shills. Anyone who claims that open source, or proprietary, software is unifoirmly bad is someone who has an agenda. that may be you, bill gates, bill mundie, or richard stallman. reasonable peope do agree that business models in software are necessary and notice that business models can be built on either OS or non-OS software. as ong as you uniformly insist on one or the other, you're argument will, unfortunately, be mistaken for that of a shill.
my opinion of your trademarl of YMMV is the same, and it also extends to Life, People, and Windows. Though not to TIME-Life, People Magazine, or Microsoft Windows. There are trademarks and then there are responsible trademarks. i'm quite familiar with what trademarks are about, and am consistent in my disregard for their heavy use.
its refreshing to see someone with a mainstream media platform acknowledge thee DMCA is bad. I hope you address its inequities in an article if you havent already (if you have, please send me the link!).
The issue of programmers needing to eat is a red herring, and your trademak is unrelated to that issue.
All news outlets on the Internet are shut down due to massive surge in traffic, so I am summarizing from reports collected via television, as well as friends in CNN , New York, and Boston. The best source for news is probably television broadcast, or your local city's newspaper website. CNN.com has dropped all extraneous links and ads and has a single story at : http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/worldtrade.crash/ story.html , which summarizes most of the available confirmed information so far.
Around 8:00 AM (Central Time), two passenger planes smashed into one each of the towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, not more than twenty minutes apart. Around 9:00 AM, one tower of the WTC collapsed. People were seen jumping out of the 101-story (1,360 feet) building's topmost floors. At about 9:30, the second tower also collapsed. Both towers of the World Trade Center have been utterly destroyed.
At about the same time, a passenger plane also crashed into the Pentagon building in Washington DC, collapsing part of the building.
American Airlines confirmed today that it lost two aircraft, Flight 11, a Boeing 767 en route from Boston to Los Angeles with 81 passengers, nine flight attendants and two pilots; and Flight 77, a Boeing 757 operating from Washington Dulles to Los Angeles with 58 passengers, four flight attendants and two pilots. These two flights were likely the ones that crashed into the WTC.
United airlines confirms that it has lost two flights. Flight 93 from Newark to San Francisco was apparently deliberately crashed by the pilot, sacrificed to avoid hitting a target. Another rumor states that it was shot down by an F-16. Flight 175 from Boston to Los Angeles is unaccounted for, possibly crashed. It is possible but unconfirmed that Flight 175 was the one that hit the Pentagon.
Car bombs have been reported at the US Capitol and the State Department, but the reports were contradictory. There also seems to be an explosion of some kind on the National Mall.
The White House, State Department, Treasury, and Pentagon have all been evacuated. Manhattan island has been quarantined, United Nations has been evacuated, and Wall Street has suspended trading. Canary Wharf in London, CN Tower in Toronto, The Sears Tower, Chicago Board of Trade, and John Hancock Center in Chicago, the John Hancock and Prudential Towers in Boston, and CNN Center in Atlanta have all been evacuated/locked down. All Disney parks in Orlando, Florida, and Disneyland in Anaheim, California have been closed. Major downtown centers in cities across the United States are also being evacuated. The Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) has grounded *all* flights in the USA, for the first time in history. F16s from the US Air Force has been instructed to shoot down flights in a no-fly zone over NYC.
The foreign office in the UK has issued the following number for worried relatives here, regarding the recent attacks upon buildings inthe US: 020 7008 0000
Yasser Arafat condemned the attack: "I send my condolences, the condolences of the Palestinian people to American President (George W.) Bush and his government and to the American people for this terrible act," Arafat told reporters in Gaza on Tuesday.
"We completely condemn this serious operation...We were completely shocked. It's unbelievable, unbelievable, unbelievable."
(http://uk.news.yahoo.com/010911/80/c3l1a.html)
Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef, the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan, said in reaction to the news of the terror attacks that "we want to tell the American children that Afghanistan feels your pain and we hope that the courts find justice."
(http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/central/0 9/ 11/afghan.taliban/index.html)
There have been a number of denials of responsibility by Palestinian groups and by the Al Quaida group headed by fugitive Saudi accused terrorist Osama bin Laden.
(Foxnews.com) Smoke from New York City is visible from the International Space Station.
All news outlets on the Internet are shut down due to massive surge in traffic, so I am summarizing from reports collected via television, as well as friends in CNN , New York, and Boston. The best source for news is probably television broadcast, or your local city's newspaper website.
Around 8:00 AM, two planes smashed into one each of the towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, not more than twenty minutes apart. One of the airplanes was confirmed to be an American Airlines flight 11 from Boston to Los Angeles, which was hijacked and diverted. The other was also a hijacked American Airlines flight, this has not been confirmed.
Around 9:00 AM, the south tower of the WTC collapsed. People were seen jumping out of the 101-story building's topmost floors. At about 9:30, the second tower also collapsed. Both towers of the World Trade Center have been utterly destroyed.
At about the same time, a plane also crashed into the Pentagon building in Washington DC. That plane was also a hijacked passenger airliner. Another passenger airliner (United Airlines flight 93, enroute to San Francisco) has crashed in Pennsylvania, which may also have been hijacked. Car bombs have been reported at the US Capitol and the State Department.
The White House, State Department, Treasury, and Pentagon have all been evacuated. Manhattan island has been quarantined and Wall Street has suspended trading. Canary Wharf in London, The Sears Tower, Chicago Board of Trade, and John Hancock Center in Chicago, the John Hancock and Prudential Towers in Boston, and CNN Center in Atlanta have all been evacuated/locked down. Major downtown centers in cities across the United States are also being evacuated. The Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) has grounded *all* flights in the USA.
who says its a moving target? for example, for pure business compatibility, you dont need o match Office 2000, you just need to replicate Office 97. Office 97 runs fine on Windows 98 SE. So, aim for compatibility with Windows 98 SE, and encourage people to reuse their old Office 97 CD's.
its only a moving target if you want to keep up with the Gateses. But it need not be that way.
call it the S3CA for brevity
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that acronym is way too unwieldy. Let's call it the S3CA. That way, it's still a four-letter word like "DMCA" and "fork"
is your idea of a business model, taking something that is obviously in the public domain, sneakily trademarking it, and then charging people for access? I find it odd that you critique the GPL on philosophical grounds when your own actions are blatantly in your financial self-interest and devoid of philosophical or ideological rationale.
Bruce Perens may have his own agendas, but at least they are born out of a consistent ideology and principle. You seem to be nothing more than a corporate shill. Perhaps you'd like to share your thoughts and opinions on the DMCA and S3CA ?
the "mole" is a CONSTANT which is a separate animal entirely from "units" and "quantities"
your analogy is flawed... constants are hybrid entities which in the end must be defined in terms of a unit. that's why the definition for mole is "some integer related to the definition of a kilogram"
that wouldn't work - after all, then you've just scaled the problem down to ask "whats the weight of a proton"
remember that the base physical units have to be directly related not to theor, but to empirical observation. That's the difference between "units" and "physical quantities"
MASS is a physical quantity. "kilogram" is a "unit" of that quantity. defining it in terms of the "mass of a proton" makes no sense because thats essentially a *circular* argument.
if you;re gonna construct a vast edifice of science, the foundation better be damn rigorous! this isnt just semantics, its essential, the way that we have to be absolutely sure that 2 + 2 = 4 (which can be derived from the Completeness property of the Real number Set). A good reference for basic units and quantities is here.
not true - there are also long striongs which do not code for protein but are "attachment" points which are where the transcription enzymes know where to latch on. DNA is processed by eternal readers and those readers look for codes embedded in eth DNA bitstream to decide when to attach and where to attach. Once they have attached, and started processing, THEN start-stop becomes relevant. There may be severall start-stop regions in one long patch. But HOW to process the data is embedded in the data.
of course I will ignore KOffice - there isnt any REASON to be patient. I can use Word now, and get all eth features I want. If KOffice has the functionality I require later, great. They can try to lure me as a user when they are ready. Until then I am gonna use what gets my work done, and not suffer through less functionality solely out of some principle or vague rationale or belief system:)
im not claiming to be a Real Physicist, just an Applied Physicist:) But my department is full of Real Engineers and Physicists who do, in fact, rely on Word. You'd be surprised at how high penetration of Word is in academia, even major conferences like the Internation Society of Magnetic Resonance in Medicine (ismrm.org) now offer Word document templates for abstracts submissions.
plug - check out MathTYpe and EndNote!!!!!
I would use TeX but the learning curve was too long and I decided to invest in learning MATLAB scripting instead. Much higher return on my limited time.
my first word processor was Ami Pro. It then got bought by Lotus and I stuck with it doggedly until I realised that I just wasnt getting my moiney's worth. I dunno about teh Mac side but the Windows side, it was obvious that Office was better. Integration was the major selling point and every upgrade top Lotus that I loyally went for always was a step behind.
True that Microsoft software was easier to get (much better academic discounts available to me in college) so that helped influence my decision. But you still have to pay a preimium for Offoice to be installed, most default computers get shipped with Works instead.
i disagree - everyone in my research department and at my institution (MD Anderson Cancer Center) uses Word 97 for all grant proposals, theses, dissertations, and journal articles. We all use POwerpoint for our conference posters, presentations, and talks, and use Excel to pretify our MATLAB data. Look at EndNote and MathType - these are seriously powerful add-ons which we obtained with educational volume discounts. I'd pay full price for them in a heartbeat because they are so useful, and I hope KOffice takes notice because if thye can support them, thats a major bonus.
oversimplification - you are projecting your needs into the Rest of World. if you think all a word processor needs to do is just create readable and reproducible output, then you shoudl just use Notepad.
people in professional fields, in business, and in academia need a LOT more than that.
do you realise how important mail-merge alone is? or typesetting? or automatic section numbering to create sub documents to organize your thesis? if that sounds like "wiping your butt" then hey thats great, your best cost effective solution is apparently VIM. But if KOffice wants to impact the real desktop market, they better deliver the features that the real desktop market needs.
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why do you write GPL software if you think its a danger to the software industry? *confused*
to answer your question, the government backdoor would be the Secret Password : "joshua"
if the government tries to enforce this, just bookmark http://www.pgpi.com.
anyone have any open-source Navajo language extensions to Pine or mutt ?
hey, Scotland is also where you get IRN BRU - the most virulent, awesome soft drink ever.
would only physical flags be protected, or would it also be illegal to have a screensaver that has a animation of a burning flag (possibly superimposed upon the text of the First Amendment) ?
what about video coverage of a physically burning flag? would possession of that that be illegal? or maybe just watching a video like that would be illegal?
MODERATORS - mod the parent up...
i dont think that word means what the insurers think it means.
Unification? It reminds me of Vulcan and Romulus
I made a few small logos which i'd like to share:
... i dont know.
http://www.abde.net/images/911-TN.jpg "9-11"
(9-11 as in september 11, and also as in emergency, etc)
http://www.abde.net/images/remember.jpg "Remember the Skyline"
http://www.abde.net/images/wtc-2002.jpg "WTC 2002"
(as in, rebuild)
do copy and pass it on if you think its worth sharing. these are
meant as an expression of solidarity, of remembrance
it's not exaggeration to say that America is forever changed by the tragedy.
... i dont know.
We should actively keep it in our minds.
I made a few small logos/slogans which i'd like to share:
9-11
(as in september 11, and emergency)
Remember the Skyline
WTC 2002
(as in, rebuild)
do copy it and pass it on to others if you think its worth sharing. these
are meant as an expression of solidarity, of remembrance
no i am not familiar with your work, but as I have no reason to think you a liar, i will take your response at face value and apologise to you. But, your single handed rejection of open source software does identoify you as someone who ascribes to an agenda. Maybe you arent a shill, but you are parroting shills. Anyone who claims that open source, or proprietary, software is unifoirmly bad is someone who has an agenda. that may be you, bill gates, bill mundie, or richard stallman. reasonable peope do agree that business models in software are necessary and notice that business models can be built on either OS or non-OS software. as ong as you uniformly insist on one or the other, you're argument will, unfortunately, be mistaken for that of a shill.
my opinion of your trademarl of YMMV is the same, and it also extends to Life, People, and Windows. Though not to TIME-Life, People Magazine, or Microsoft Windows. There are trademarks and then there are responsible trademarks. i'm quite familiar with what trademarks are about, and am consistent in my disregard for their heavy use.
its refreshing to see someone with a mainstream media platform acknowledge thee DMCA is bad. I hope you address its inequities in an article if you havent already (if you have, please send me the link!).
The issue of programmers needing to eat is a red herring, and your trademak is unrelated to that issue.
All news outlets on the Internet are shut down due to massive surge in traffic, so I am summarizing from reports collected via television, as well as friends in CNN , New York, and Boston. The best source for news is probably television broadcast, or your local city's newspaper website. CNN.com has dropped all extraneous links and ads and has a single story at : http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/worldtrade.crash
Around 8:00 AM (Central Time), two passenger planes smashed into one each of the towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, not more than twenty minutes apart. Around 9:00 AM, one tower of the WTC collapsed. People were seen jumping out of the 101-story (1,360 feet) building's topmost floors. At about 9:30, the second tower also collapsed. Both towers of the World Trade Center have been utterly destroyed.
At about the same time, a passenger plane also crashed into the Pentagon building in Washington DC, collapsing part of the building.
American Airlines confirmed today that it lost two aircraft, Flight 11, a Boeing 767 en route from Boston to Los Angeles with 81 passengers, nine flight attendants and two pilots; and Flight 77, a Boeing 757 operating from Washington Dulles to Los Angeles with 58 passengers, four flight attendants and two pilots. These two flights were likely the ones that crashed into the WTC.
United airlines confirms that it has lost two flights. Flight 93 from Newark to San Francisco was apparently deliberately crashed by the pilot, sacrificed to avoid hitting a target. Another rumor states that it was shot down by an F-16. Flight 175 from Boston to Los Angeles is unaccounted for, possibly crashed. It is possible but unconfirmed that Flight 175 was the one that hit the Pentagon.
Car bombs have been reported at the US Capitol and the State Department, but the reports were contradictory. There also seems to be an explosion of some kind on the National Mall.
The White House, State Department, Treasury, and Pentagon have all been evacuated. Manhattan island has been quarantined, United Nations has been evacuated, and Wall Street has suspended trading. Canary Wharf in London, CN Tower in Toronto, The Sears Tower, Chicago Board of Trade, and John Hancock Center in Chicago, the John Hancock and Prudential Towers in Boston, and CNN Center in Atlanta have all been evacuated/locked down. All Disney parks in Orlando, Florida, and Disneyland in Anaheim, California have been closed. Major downtown centers in cities across the United States are also being evacuated. The Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) has grounded *all* flights in the USA, for the first time in history. F16s from the US Air Force has been instructed to shoot down flights in a no-fly zone over NYC.
The foreign office in the UK has issued the following number for worried relatives here, regarding the recent attacks upon buildings inthe US: 020 7008 0000
Yasser Arafat condemned the attack: "I send my condolences, the condolences of the Palestinian people to American President (George W.) Bush and his government and to the American people for this terrible act," Arafat told reporters in Gaza on Tuesday.
"We completely condemn this serious operation...We were completely shocked. It's unbelievable, unbelievable, unbelievable."
(http://uk.news.yahoo.com/010911/80/c3l1a.html)
Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef, the Taliban ambassador to Pakistan, said in reaction to the news of the terror attacks that "we want to tell the American children that Afghanistan feels your pain and we hope that the courts find justice."
(http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/central/
There have been a number of denials of responsibility by Palestinian groups and by the Al Quaida group headed by fugitive Saudi accused terrorist Osama bin Laden.
(Foxnews.com) Smoke from New York City is visible from the International Space Station.
All news outlets on the Internet are shut down due to massive surge in traffic, so I am summarizing from reports collected via television, as well as friends in CNN , New York, and Boston. The best source for news is probably television broadcast, or your local city's newspaper website.
Around 8:00 AM, two planes smashed into one each of the towers of the World Trade Center in New York City, not more than twenty minutes apart. One of the airplanes was confirmed to be an American Airlines flight 11 from Boston to Los Angeles, which was hijacked and diverted. The other was also a hijacked American Airlines flight, this has not been confirmed.
Around 9:00 AM, the south tower of the WTC collapsed. People were seen jumping out of the 101-story building's topmost floors. At about 9:30, the second tower also collapsed. Both towers of the World Trade Center have been utterly destroyed.
At about the same time, a plane also crashed into the Pentagon building in Washington DC. That plane was also a hijacked passenger airliner. Another passenger airliner (United Airlines flight 93, enroute to San Francisco) has crashed in Pennsylvania, which may also have been hijacked. Car bombs have been reported at the US Capitol and the State Department.
The White House, State Department, Treasury, and Pentagon have all been evacuated. Manhattan island has been quarantined and Wall Street has suspended trading. Canary Wharf in London, The Sears Tower, Chicago Board of Trade, and John Hancock Center in Chicago, the John Hancock and Prudential Towers in Boston, and CNN Center in Atlanta have all been evacuated/locked down. Major downtown centers in cities across the United States are also being evacuated. The Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) has grounded *all* flights in the USA.
who says its a moving target? for example, for pure business compatibility, you dont need o match Office 2000, you just need to replicate Office 97. Office 97 runs fine on Windows 98 SE. So, aim for compatibility with Windows 98 SE, and encourage people to reuse their old Office 97 CD's.
its only a moving target if you want to keep up with the Gateses. But it need not be that way.
that acronym is way too unwieldy. Let's call it the S3CA. That way, it's still a four-letter word like "DMCA" and "fork"
Brett,
is your idea of a business model, taking something that is obviously in the public domain, sneakily trademarking it, and then charging people for access? I find it odd that you critique the GPL on philosophical grounds when your own actions are blatantly in your financial self-interest and devoid of philosophical or ideological rationale.
Bruce Perens may have his own agendas, but at least they are born out of a consistent ideology and principle. You seem to be nothing more than a corporate shill. Perhaps you'd like to share your thoughts and opinions on the DMCA and S3CA ?
thank you, thats what i meant to say, i was indeed talking about Avogadro's constant, not "mole"
the "mole" is a CONSTANT which is a separate animal entirely from "units" and "quantities"
your analogy is flawed... constants are hybrid entities which in the end must be defined in terms of a unit. that's why the definition for mole is "some integer related to the definition of a kilogram"
that wouldn't work - after all, then you've just scaled the problem down to ask "whats the weight of a proton"
remember that the base physical units have to be directly related not to theor, but to empirical observation. That's the difference between "units" and "physical quantities"
MASS is a physical quantity. "kilogram" is a "unit" of that quantity. defining it in terms of the "mass of a proton" makes no sense because thats essentially a *circular* argument.
if you;re gonna construct a vast edifice of science, the foundation better be damn rigorous! this isnt just semantics, its essential, the way that we have to be absolutely sure that 2 + 2 = 4 (which can be derived from the Completeness property of the Real number Set). A good reference for basic units and quantities is here.
not true - there are also long striongs which do not code for protein but are "attachment" points which are where the transcription enzymes know where to latch on. DNA is processed by eternal readers and those readers look for codes embedded in eth DNA bitstream to decide when to attach and where to attach. Once they have attached, and started processing, THEN start-stop becomes relevant. There may be severall start-stop regions in one long patch. But HOW to process the data is embedded in the data.
i recommend Stryer for a good biochem text...
of course I will ignore KOffice - there isnt any REASON to be patient. I can use Word now, and get all eth features I want. If KOffice has the functionality I require later, great. They can try to lure me as a user when they are ready. Until then I am gonna use what gets my work done, and not suffer through less functionality solely out of some principle or vague rationale or belief system
im not claiming to be a Real Physicist, just an Applied Physicist
plug - check out MathTYpe and EndNote!!!!!
I would use TeX but the learning curve was too long and I decided to invest in learning MATLAB scripting instead. Much higher return on my limited time.
my first word processor was Ami Pro. It then got bought by Lotus and I stuck with it doggedly until I realised that I just wasnt getting my moiney's worth. I dunno about teh Mac side but the Windows side, it was obvious that Office was better. Integration was the major selling point and every upgrade top Lotus that I loyally went for always was a step behind.
True that Microsoft software was easier to get (much better academic discounts available to me in college) so that helped influence my decision. But you still have to pay a preimium for Offoice to be installed, most default computers get shipped with Works instead.
i disagree - everyone in my research department and at my institution (MD Anderson Cancer Center) uses Word 97 for all grant proposals, theses, dissertations, and journal articles. We all use POwerpoint for our conference posters, presentations, and talks, and use Excel to pretify our MATLAB data. Look at EndNote and MathType - these are seriously powerful add-ons which we obtained with educational volume discounts. I'd pay full price for them in a heartbeat because they are so useful, and I hope KOffice takes notice because if thye can support them, thats a major bonus.
oversimplification - you are projecting your needs into the Rest of World. if you think all a word processor needs to do is just create readable and reproducible output, then you shoudl just use Notepad.
people in professional fields, in business, and in academia need a LOT more than that.
do you realise how important mail-merge alone is? or typesetting? or automatic section numbering to create sub documents to organize your thesis? if that sounds like "wiping your butt" then hey thats great, your best cost effective solution is apparently VIM. But if KOffice wants to impact the real desktop market, they better deliver the features that the real desktop market needs.