This IMHO will be the beginning of a new golden age of hardware hacking. The last time things were somewhat like this was the age of TTL chips in "home" computers in the early to mid 80s. It was much easier to build your own peripherals, joysticks, speech synthesisers (anyone remember the 8-bit SPO256 AL2 chip sold at Radio Shack?) Building your own boards were much more common than today. Widespread use of surface mount boards and chips started to make design of your own board difficult for many hobbiests. Now it will be easy to do this again, and hardware hacking is going to take off.
Want a new interface with your fillinblankhere, download here then print. This type of post will appear frequently on hardware sites. This will give whole new meaning to the term "Warez site":)
We are flowing my brother, I agree, and that is why I sent redhat@schwartz-pr.com (Redhats press agency) a message stating that they should place ads in the "target" cities, along with links to the BSA and this Slashdot article for background info.
I don't doubt this happened at all. Sony is about as bad at support at MS is. Which is why I will *never* buy a Sony laptop, because a friend of mine did....
He bought a Sony laptop which has problems with MS XP. So I helped him flash his BIOS, still problems with XP. We even tried installing ME on it, but Sony has no drivers for his laptop with ME, and has stated they had no intentions of producing drivers for users with *older* VAIOs to upgrade to newer OSes.
Sonys support line boasted a broken link so now I understood his tremendous frustration level. So armed with a boatload of documentation on this issue, I went with him to Best Buy, and they let him exchange his VAIO for other hardware matching the price of the laptop. The magic words that resonated with Best Buys manager where: "Hey man he just wants to play games on his laptop". So I helped him pick out a HP desktop (No Compaqs or eMachines nosirreebob), and a boatload of hardware, all equalling the price of that crappy laptop.
Sony wants to lock you into proprietary firewire and audio hardware, and hang you out to dry after they get your $.
I have read a couple articles in the past about China, Linux and Microsoft.
I am of the opinion the key issue here is about control. Microsoft as we all know, basically dictates to the world at large, OK this is the how it is going to be done, so do what we say and everyone will be happy. Planned obsolescence, hidden APIs, "embrace and extinguish", along with shoddy documentation has historically meant that Microsoft always retained the upper hand.
What Linux has done, which before now your only choices were expensive Macs, and a fragmented Unix market, gave people a viable option, and in control of their own computing destiny.
Dont want a browser icon on your desktop? Use Linux. Installing a SQL Server that doesn't require a web browser? Use Linux. Don't want to subscribe to.Net or decipher CAL licensing? Use Linux. Don't want your expensive office software to suddenly become obsolete every two years at Microsofts whim? Use Linux.
These are the real reasons that China doesn't like MS. Microsoft and China are like two control freaks trying to establish a relationship.
Standards/guidelines are good for the Linux community, how many times have you followed a installation readme, or read a HOW-TO and *nothing* is where it supposedly should be?
Try typing which filename with common executable names on two different distros and you will know what I am talking about.
That is why I think the FHS is slightly more important. The Filesystem Hierarchy Standard is supposed to help prevent this, so hopefully the LSB compliments this cool document supported by freestandards.org.
I think this guy is one of the few we have in Congress that "get it" and IMHO one of the few in Congress not paid for by a major media conglomerate. Although this is going to sound like a political commercial, I have followed this guys record, he has opposed virtually every fascist piece of legislation pushed by "big media". I believe the linux and free software community should support him just like most of us support the EFF. This sig is taken.
If this guy wants to know hear good BBS stories, he should talk to the users of that board. Those were the fun days, my first modem was a 300 baud, you never knew if the BBS was gonna kick you off for being too slow. I had to save to upgrade to a 1200 baud. It was even more difficult because owned a Tandy 1000 EX. It was a funky PC-XT clone that had a "turbo" mode--7.16 MHZ. I remember buying Computer Shoppers in the days when they about an inch and a half thick and had Spectrum, Timex sinclair and Amiga sections inside, as well as BBS phone numbers in the back. This was a good starting place for picking up numbers, because they also listed supported baud rates like: 3/12/24/96 etc. Thats when you knew the sysops and would play dungeons and dragons with them and other BBS users on weekends, and tradewars and other "doors" games on the boards the rest of the week.
I knew Slashdot couldn't go more than a week without something like this. This is the site where:
People hate Microsoft and never use "their products", but yet manage to have played all the games that can only be ran on a MS OS. (I know its coming--don't mention Loki, virtually no one bought their games,which is why they are bankrupt)
The DMCA is bad, but buying your favorite anime or sci-fi DVD is OK.
All big business is bad, but IBM is great because they contributed a billion dollars to the Linux movement.
Intel sucks, but virtually everyone that posts on this site uses either an Intel or Intel compatible cpu.
And of course this week: Using a commercial airliner to kill 5000+ of your fellow citizens is a bad thing, but god forbid I have to give up one iota of my precious "freedoms" (AKA convienient plush lifestyle) to combat the threat to my country.
I guess I am looking for someone with backbone or character, who *really* believes in a something and sticks to it. I see a lot of "hate something for popularities sake" on this site and in the near future am probably going to start going elsewere for real "news for nerds".I am actually an EFF member, but how many people complaining ala slashdot posts are? I could on with even more examples, but it will be ignored. I would sure like to have the robots, PDAs, various boxes and game machines that Roblimo has, but I would gladly give up my meagre material possessions temporarily so someone else could live without being us being attacked again. These are people that died not abstract phospor pictures and soundbites. How many people here would have made the sacrifices our grandparents made during WW II?
In closing I personally believe being born poor has helped me realize just how lucky I am, what temporary sacrifice really means, and how many people around me dont.
I have often noticed ZDNET prefers "dumbed down" software features.
Their reviews for Microsoft Windows, especially the XP interface were glowing. They also tend to compare Microsoft products against older versions of the same product (especially OS'es).
So this means that for "innovated products" *snicker* like XP, comparisons with Win 2k or Millenium, make it sound totally awesome. Experience tells *us* a different story, namely XP is a *little* more stable but slower, but with closed and proprietary half completed garbage (XP firewalls and Media as an example).
My opinion is that they for the most part cow-tow to Microsoft for dollars and users.
A typical example, direct from ZDNets site: XP has a radical new look, and Microsoft is likely to take a few hits from purists who think it looks either dumbed-down or too Mac-like. But after living with it for a while, we feel it is more pleasing aesthetically and more functional, once you get used to it. Still if you just can't stand it, you can always revert to the classic Windows interface.
Another example: Setting up a network has never been easier, thanks to XP's Network Setup Wizard, which spells out, auto-configures and diagrams exactly how to create common network scenarios, such as a gateway machine for your in-house network. This feature alone may be worth the price of admission.
I have nothing further to add other than REDUNDANT, TROLLesque comments--things like: "John Katz is a self-serving asshole, who doesn't understand the people on this site, technology, or something that the rest of us haven't figured out a zillion years ago as we were pushing 8 bit boxes to the limit while Katz was masturbating to women lingeree pictures in the Sears catalog."
You made an issue of President Bush not being at the Whitehouse and his "sing-song" monotone.
First of all he is the President of the United States. Many security experts were worried when he left Nebreska when he did.
Second, does it really make sense to have a President in Washington, after the Pentagon is kamikaze attacked, to drain Federal resources, by guarding the President and reclaim bodies at the same time? Guiliani, wanting to show off, drained police time and resources they could have used to do more important things like save lives.
Third, maybe the reason the President had a monotone voice is because, maybe being a powerful leader, knowing many people, he had friends who died by the perpetrators of this heinous crime. Yeah it really sucks he doesn't have a media presence at a time like that, but I am fucking positive you can get over it.
Katz, your an asshole, and I really don't give a shit if I get modded down (big fucking whoop) or not.
Economic domination.
Oh yeah you are right, we are so bad, giving jobs to people and selling them shit they don't have to buy.
facing an opponent who has the money
The reason this country has money is because US citizens (free and slave) busted their asses for over two centuries. We eliminated the evils of slavery and became even richer.
owns the world legal system And if we really did own the legal system world round, then the Koreans and the EU would not be investigating Micosoft and Intel would they? The world court wouldn't have also decided against the US after the Panama invasion, if what you are saying is true.
The reality is that we have been attacked by fringe Islamic religious fanatics, just like *most* of the terrorist attacks against the US in the last 5 years. If anything, our being allied with Israel (another country that doesn't like us?) has contributed more than anything.
Placing Dmitri in jail for explaining how bad software algorithms work, is akin to placing someone in jail for explaining how a car works, dna replicates, or how the checks and balances system of government works.
The US is setting a dangerous and oppressive precedent with this case. The very freedoms that allow us to criticize, expose wrongdoing and correct wrongs (slavery for instance) are currently jeopardized. Would DDT have been banned if scientists had not been allowed to research and discuss its effects on animals and the ecosystem?
Also the concept of quality will be thrown out the window as well. What incentive would a company have to make good products, if the ability of the people to have dialog on products and services are taken away?
If you really care about the people,do what is right and destroy this oppressive legislation that can only lead to thought-police and totalitarianism.
I have noticed that newbies mainly purchase distros (and many more at that) than the older more experienced linux users.
This is due to the following reasons:
Newbies usually have to buy 2 or 3 before they "settle" on one they feel comfortable with.
Most usually dont know how to use RPM let alone recompile a kernel, KDE or Gnome version, etc.
Bragging/Newest toy factor. Talking to friends about having "newest" KDE etc. (even though most of us know that rarely happens:) )
Last but not least, convenience/bandwidth. This is the reason even season linux veterans buy distros semi-regularly
It is kind of sad in a way that the newest GUI's for Linux are so good. I have talked to 3 different people in the last month or so that use linux alot but really have little or no inkling "what lies under the hood". (graphical logins, great KDE and gnome interfaces on the newest distros, auto-update features etc.) They have never had to tinker so they are in essence becoming virtual clones of the users they were with M$ gui's.
I recently purchased the KDE Studio Gold from the Kompany. It is good, and users are kept in the know about the products status and encouraged to submit bugs encountered.
What impressed me the most however was when I ordered the product. Before I ordered I sent a message asking technical questions about distros supported, kernel versions, gcc etc. I expected an answer sometime the next day, as it was Sunday. I got a message back in about a half an hour, telling me what I needed to know. I then called the sales number, and guess who answered...Shawn Gordon. He seems like a cool guy, and we had a laugh about how the last time the Kompany was on Slashdot, how his servers slowed down, (didn't crash -- they are running Linux, remember:) ), and how he was on vacation at the time etc. He even let me know if I waited a week, I would get RC1, but also let me know that I am covered for upgrades forever (which I knew) when I bought.
They seem to have a *clue* about the community, and are pleasant to deal with. Just thought I should share the info...
This has got to stop. Contribute to the EFF or the ACLU. Refuse to use and buy these shoddy products that people can crack easier than Microsofts CE password encryption.
Is this the same USA that I was born in 28 years ago? Why are we letting this happen? Remember you have absolutely no right to complain, if you don't try and do something about it.
My last job (2 years ago) was with a non-profit company and I was a total primma-donna because I had to be. The project manager and most of the other programmers were still using *16-bit* development tools, totally crappy code, and had a timeclock mentality. I made the mistake of *loving* programming, using new tools, cranking out quality stuff. AKA Making people look bad, because they were/are dumb, lazy freeloaders. Not being from the area (central Kentucky) didn't help either, and unless you act like a pretentious yuppie--you just wont fit in (I didnt). Just getting these slope headed drones to use new tools and comment code was a total royal pain in the ass. I basically *took over* the project manager by getting him and others to get off their ass and at least pretend they wanted to be there, (who wants to clean up after people constantly?). He didn't want to manage the project, so I took it upon myself to do the management.
I basically got by with murder. (dress code, showed up whenever, etc.) because not only did I do the job, *but I did it very well*. Clients loved me, because I actually gave a shit, which made matters worse. Upper management believed in the loyalty to the organization, so the slackers got to stay.
However the general apathy of the place became too intensely frustrating, so I left. I am now with a real cool company, with cool project managers who do know what they are doing, work hard and treat people fairly, meaning I don't have to act like like an asshole in able to do my job.
Although I have no doubt that you are serious about the scientific evidence surrounding the global warming phenomenon, other scientists armed with research info have stated the Earth is about to start another ice age.
The information I have read, indicates to me personally that we really don't know what is going to happen, simply because we haven't been observing long enough. Ice cores from the antartic regions indicate the Earth inexplicably and suddenly changes it climatic patterns, a classic example of chaotic system behavior.
Also read history. Gibbon mentions the Danube at the time of the Roman empire never froze, whereas during his time, during the height of the smoggy Industrial Revolution when it snowed ash in London, it commonly froze over.
Basically to sum it up: We do need to clean the environment, but I don't think we should be so bold to presume at this point (esp. with global warming and ozone) what is going to happen.
Slashdot Mirror
This is probably the best demonstration of Nash equilibrium theory I have yet to come across. Ironically, neither has an effective dominant stratigy.
As soon as they find the black holes in our atmosphere, I can reclaim my lost pens, socks and lighters -- maybe even bring back Jimmy Hoffa.
This IMHO will be the beginning of a new golden age of hardware hacking. The last time things were somewhat like this was the age of TTL chips in "home" computers in the early to mid 80s. It was much easier to build your own peripherals, joysticks, speech synthesisers (anyone remember the 8-bit SPO256 AL2 chip sold at Radio Shack?) Building your own boards were much more common than today. Widespread use of surface mount boards and chips started to make design of your own board difficult for many hobbiests. Now it will be easy to do this again, and hardware hacking is going to take off.
:)
Want a new interface with your fillinblankhere, download here then print. This type of post will appear frequently on hardware sites. This will give whole new meaning to the term "Warez site"
Just my 2 cents.
We are flowing my brother, I agree, and that is why I sent redhat@schwartz-pr.com (Redhats press agency) a message stating that they should place ads in the "target" cities, along with links to the BSA and this Slashdot article for background info.
I do what I can.
It looks like the beginning of the end for PC's, look what MTV did to music.
I guess fuckedcompany will have to change its name to monetarilychallengedcompany.
All former employee comments will state something to the nature: "I am angry, but thats OK!"
I don't doubt this happened at all. Sony is about as bad at support at MS is. Which is why I will *never* buy a Sony laptop, because a friend of mine did....
He bought a Sony laptop which has problems with MS XP. So I helped him flash his BIOS, still problems with XP. We even tried installing ME on it, but Sony has no drivers for his laptop with ME, and has stated they had no intentions of producing drivers for users with *older* VAIOs to upgrade to newer OSes.
Sonys support line boasted a broken link so now I understood his tremendous frustration level. So armed with a boatload of documentation on this issue, I went with him to Best Buy, and they let him exchange his VAIO for other hardware matching the price of the laptop. The magic words that resonated with Best Buys manager where: "Hey man he just wants to play games on his laptop". So I helped him pick out a HP desktop (No Compaqs or eMachines nosirreebob), and a boatload of hardware, all equalling the price of that crappy laptop.
Sony wants to lock you into proprietary firewire and audio hardware, and hang you out to dry after they get your $.
This sig is taken
I have read a couple articles in the past about China, Linux and Microsoft.
.Net or decipher CAL licensing? Use Linux. Don't want your expensive office software to suddenly become obsolete every two years at Microsofts whim? Use Linux.
I am of the opinion the key issue here is about control. Microsoft as we all know, basically dictates to the world at large, OK this is the how it is going to be done, so do what we say and everyone will be happy. Planned obsolescence, hidden APIs, "embrace and extinguish", along with shoddy documentation has historically meant that Microsoft always retained the upper hand.
What Linux has done, which before now your only choices were expensive Macs, and a fragmented Unix market, gave people a viable option, and in control of their own computing destiny.
Dont want a browser icon on your desktop? Use Linux. Installing a SQL Server that doesn't require a web browser? Use Linux. Don't want to subscribe to
These are the real reasons that China doesn't like MS. Microsoft and China are like two control freaks trying to establish a relationship.
Standards/guidelines are good for the Linux community, how many times have you followed a installation readme, or read a HOW-TO and *nothing* is where it supposedly should be?
Try typing which filename with common executable names on two different distros and you will know what I am talking about.
That is why I think the FHS is slightly more important. The Filesystem Hierarchy Standard is supposed to help prevent this, so hopefully the LSB compliments this cool document supported by freestandards.org.
This sig is taken.
I think this guy is one of the few we have in Congress that "get it" and IMHO one of the few in Congress not paid for by a major media conglomerate.
Although this is going to sound like a political commercial, I have followed this guys record, he has opposed virtually every fascist piece of legislation pushed by "big media".
I believe the linux and free software community should support him just like most of us support the EFF.
This sig is taken.
If this guy wants to know hear good BBS stories, he should talk to the users of that board.
Those were the fun days, my first modem was a 300 baud, you never knew if the BBS was gonna kick you off for being too slow.
I had to save to upgrade to a 1200 baud. It was even more difficult because owned a Tandy 1000 EX. It was a funky PC-XT clone that had a "turbo" mode--7.16 MHZ.
I remember buying Computer Shoppers in the days when they about an inch and a half thick and had Spectrum, Timex sinclair and Amiga sections inside, as well as BBS phone numbers in the back. This was a good starting place for picking up numbers, because they also listed supported baud rates like: 3/12/24/96 etc.
Thats when you knew the sysops and would play dungeons and dragons with them and other BBS users on weekends, and tradewars and other "doors" games on the boards the rest of the week.
Sigh, the web just isn't the same.
I knew Slashdot couldn't go more than a week without something like this. This is the site where:
People hate Microsoft and never use "their products", but yet manage to have played all the games that can only be ran on a MS OS. (I know its coming--don't mention Loki, virtually no one bought their games,which is why they are bankrupt)
The DMCA is bad, but buying your favorite anime or sci-fi DVD is OK.
All big business is bad, but IBM is great because they contributed a billion dollars to the Linux movement.
Intel sucks, but virtually everyone that posts on this site uses either an Intel or Intel compatible cpu.
And of course this week: Using a commercial airliner to kill 5000+ of your fellow citizens is a bad thing, but god forbid I have to give up one iota of my precious "freedoms" (AKA convienient plush lifestyle) to combat the threat to my country.
I guess I am looking for someone with backbone or character, who *really* believes in a something and sticks to it. I see a lot of "hate something for popularities sake" on this site and in the near future am probably going to start going elsewere for real "news for nerds".I am actually an EFF member, but how many people complaining ala slashdot posts are? I could on with even more examples, but it will be ignored. I would sure like to have the robots, PDAs, various boxes and game machines that Roblimo has, but I would gladly give up my meagre material possessions temporarily so someone else could live without being us being attacked again. These are people that died not abstract phospor pictures and soundbites. How many people here would have made the sacrifices our grandparents made during WW II?
In closing I personally believe being born poor has helped me realize just how lucky I am, what temporary sacrifice really means, and how many people around me dont.
I have often noticed ZDNET prefers "dumbed down" software features.
Their reviews for Microsoft Windows, especially the XP interface were glowing. They also tend to compare Microsoft products against older versions of the same product (especially OS'es).
So this means that for "innovated products" *snicker* like XP, comparisons with Win 2k or Millenium, make it sound totally awesome. Experience tells *us* a different story, namely XP is a *little* more stable but slower, but with closed and proprietary half completed garbage (XP firewalls and Media as an example).
My opinion is that they for the most part cow-tow to Microsoft for dollars and users.
A typical example, direct from ZDNets site:
XP has a radical new look, and Microsoft is likely to take a few hits from purists who think it looks either dumbed-down or too Mac-like. But after living with it for a while, we feel it is more pleasing aesthetically and more functional, once you get used to it. Still if you just can't stand it, you can always revert to the classic Windows interface.
Another example:
Setting up a network has never been easier, thanks to XP's Network Setup Wizard, which spells out, auto-configures and diagrams exactly how to create common network scenarios, such as a gateway machine for your in-house network. This feature alone may be worth the price of admission.
Jeepers!I cant wait to get XP!
I have nothing further to add other than REDUNDANT, TROLLesque comments--things like: "John Katz is a self-serving asshole, who doesn't understand the people on this site, technology, or something that the rest of us haven't figured out a zillion years ago as we were pushing 8 bit boxes to the limit while Katz was masturbating to women lingeree pictures in the Sears catalog."
Yes, comments just like that.
You made an issue of President Bush not being at the Whitehouse and his "sing-song" monotone.
First of all he is the President of the United States. Many security experts were worried when he left Nebreska when he did.
Second, does it really make sense to have a President in Washington, after the Pentagon is kamikaze attacked, to drain Federal resources, by guarding the President and reclaim bodies at the same time? Guiliani, wanting to show off, drained police time and resources they could have used to do more important things like save lives.
Third, maybe the reason the President had a monotone voice is because, maybe being a powerful leader, knowing many people, he had friends who died by the perpetrators of this heinous crime. Yeah it really sucks he doesn't have a media presence at a time like that, but I am fucking positive you can get over it.
Katz, your an asshole, and I really don't give a shit if I get modded down (big fucking whoop) or not.
Thanks.
Economic domination.
Oh yeah you are right, we are so bad, giving jobs to people and selling them shit they don't have to buy.
facing an opponent who has the money
The reason this country has money is because US citizens (free and slave) busted their asses for over two centuries. We eliminated the evils of slavery and became even richer.
owns the world legal system
And if we really did own the legal system world round, then the Koreans and the EU would not be investigating Micosoft and Intel would they? The world court wouldn't have also decided against the US after the Panama invasion, if what you are saying is true.
The reality is that we have been attacked by fringe Islamic religious fanatics, just like *most* of the terrorist attacks against the US in the last 5 years. If anything, our being allied with Israel (another country that doesn't like us?) has contributed more than anything.
Washington Post reports that Jimmy Hoffa is still missing! Haven't we known this for a long time now?
You rule!
Placing Dmitri in jail for explaining how bad software algorithms work, is akin to placing someone in jail for explaining how a car works, dna replicates, or how the checks and balances system of government works.
The US is setting a dangerous and oppressive precedent with this case. The very freedoms that allow us to criticize, expose wrongdoing and correct wrongs (slavery for instance) are currently jeopardized. Would DDT have been banned if scientists had not been allowed to research and discuss its effects on animals and the ecosystem?
Also the concept of quality will be thrown out the window as well. What incentive would a company have to make good products, if the ability of the people to have dialog on products and services are taken away?
If you really care about the people ,do what is right and destroy this oppressive legislation that can only lead to thought-police and totalitarianism.
I have noticed that newbies mainly purchase distros (and many more at that) than the older more experienced linux users.
This is due to the following reasons:It is kind of sad in a way that the newest GUI's for Linux are so good. I have talked to 3 different people in the last month or so that use linux alot but really have little or no inkling "what lies under the hood". (graphical logins, great KDE and gnome interfaces on the newest distros, auto-update features etc.) They have never had to tinker so they are in essence becoming virtual clones of the users they were with M$ gui's.
I recently purchased the KDE Studio Gold from the Kompany. It is good, and users are kept in the know about the products status and encouraged to submit bugs encountered.
What impressed me the most however was when I ordered the product. Before I ordered I sent a message asking technical questions about distros supported, kernel versions, gcc etc. I expected an answer sometime the next day, as it was Sunday. I got a message back in about a half an hour, telling me what I needed to know. I then called the sales number, and guess who answered...Shawn Gordon. He seems like a cool guy, and we had a laugh about how the last time the Kompany was on Slashdot, how his servers slowed down, (didn't crash -- they are running Linux, remember :) ), and how he was on vacation at the time etc. He even let me know if I waited a week, I would get RC1, but also let me know that I am covered for upgrades forever (which I knew) when I bought.
They seem to have a *clue* about the community, and are pleasant to deal with. Just thought I should share the info...
This has got to stop. Contribute to the EFF or the ACLU. Refuse to use and buy these shoddy products that people can crack easier than Microsofts CE password encryption.
Is this the same USA that I was born in 28 years ago? Why are we letting this happen? Remember you have absolutely no right to complain, if you don't try and do something about it.
My last job (2 years ago) was with a non-profit company and I was a total primma-donna because I had to be. The project manager and most of the other programmers were still using *16-bit* development tools, totally crappy code, and had a timeclock mentality. I made the mistake of *loving* programming, using new tools, cranking out quality stuff. AKA Making people look bad, because they were/are dumb, lazy freeloaders. Not being from the area (central Kentucky) didn't help either, and unless you act like a pretentious yuppie--you just wont fit in (I didnt). Just getting these slope headed drones to use new tools and comment code was a total royal pain in the ass. I basically *took over* the project manager by getting him and others to get off their ass and at least pretend they wanted to be there, (who wants to clean up after people constantly?). He didn't want to manage the project, so I took it upon myself to do the management.
I basically got by with murder. (dress code, showed up whenever, etc.) because not only did I do the job, *but I did it very well*. Clients loved me, because I actually gave a shit, which made matters worse. Upper management believed in the loyalty to the organization, so the slackers got to stay.
However the general apathy of the place became too intensely frustrating, so I left. I am now with a real cool company, with cool project managers who do know what they are doing, work hard and treat people fairly, meaning I don't have to act like like an asshole in able to do my job.
Although I have no doubt that you are serious about the scientific evidence surrounding the global warming phenomenon, other scientists armed with research info have stated the Earth is about to start another ice age.
The information I have read, indicates to me personally that we really don't know what is going to happen, simply because we haven't been observing long enough. Ice cores from the antartic regions indicate the Earth inexplicably and suddenly changes it climatic patterns, a classic example of chaotic system behavior.
Also read history. Gibbon mentions the Danube at the time of the Roman empire never froze, whereas during his time, during the height of the smoggy Industrial Revolution when it snowed ash in London, it commonly froze over.Basically to sum it up: We do need to clean the environment, but I don't think we should be so bold to presume at this point (esp. with global warming and ozone) what is going to happen.