Maybe that price 'includes' one of those $400 MSN "rebates" you get when you sign up for 3 years - it has a 56k modem packaged with it, after all. And I have seen (well, perceived, anyway) a renewed push by MS to sell their ISP.
Also included is a 19" TV. Rumor has it that it only tunes to MSNBC when you turn it on, though (plus it keeps a little logo in the corner when watching any channel).
Oh, and I bet the X-Box won't be available in Europe until over a year after the US release.
...but I'm afraid that you're right. I saw one story that did not have a SINGLE "3" post after a day.
I think your proposal is a _bit_ unbalanced, though. I read slashdot for over a year before getting a login, because as a mere "power user", I had a feeling that people who post here must really know there stuff (heh). So why should I be punished (yes, thats what it is) with a default "0" comment just because I lurked for a while? A better method (imo) would be more simply to penalize people with negative karma with a lower default.
-- and I'm not sure if making demands is fair to the founders of this site, who probably put up with a lot of @#%%!
The thing that prompted me to join, btw, was that I had a story posted and it gave me a real sense that this was truly a ground-up website...
Obviously, somebody interested in a candidate can go to their.com and learn more, but what efforts can be made to reach out to voters over the internet? Are there representatives visiting the websites of various organizations in a similar way that a campaign might visit a brick and mortar meeting place of a community?
Usually, I would agree with you that such blatantly... obvious tactics are pretty silly, but you have missed something.
My understanding is that Netscape 5 was developed for a while on the old code; but as that code officially sucks, they scrapped it and went with starting from scratch - and with the bazaar model of development, to boot!
I think this is about companies who want to control the consumption of their products. They are bypassing natural laws of consumption by creating dams which can slow or even halt the distibution of a product. Regional coding is a perfect example of this.
Since I'm not in the business, I don't know why this is a good thing for companies (apart from the very fact they are in control). Perhaps by slowing the distibution of their product and extending it over a longer time period, the product remains in the spotlight for a longer time, creating more attention around it.
Since I'm done postulating nonsense and making horrible spellink errors, I'll stop now.
It is eminently clear to me what is happening. The technology 'experts' have finally succeeded in creating far-reaching dependencies on the machines of hell that they have conjured. And now, these "techies" are using computers as their personal drones and foot soldiers to inflate their egos and promote their anarchist agendas. Make no mistake; these are the same spindly pale-faced freaks that you used to shove in lockers. Now, they are hell-bent on revenge because nature has dealt them a painfully small hand. This is a conspiracy; and it is vast. Not only far reaching because of the amount of people involved, but also because of how long it has been happening. Decades ago the seeds were planted with the beginning of what became the Y2K fiasco. They purposefully created fear in order to strip us of our money and our pride. Is there anything that can be done to stop these heathens? Yes, and the points below are a great outline as to how and where to begin overthrowing the nerdopoly we find ourselves serving under and slaves to.
1) Dispose of your personal computer. AOL chat and your personal greeting card software have not contributed anything to your life.
2) If there is a report about "hackers" on the television, turn it off. All of the media is now a collective puppet to these ingrates and atheists that they are reporting on, and have refused to expose the truth about the real danger that these 'people' pose to our society. They exist only to expose our children to pornography, our minds to confusion, and our wallets to theft.
3) Demand that your local library and schools remove computers. These places should be a second home where we are provided with assurances that our American and Christian ideals are protected, not a social petri dish or a home for anarchist and anti-democratic sentiments.
There are certainly other measures that we can take to protect ourselves from these wholly evil creatures of technology and lust, but I think these are important first steps. Thank Our Lord that we have still have the American government and tried-and-true capitalism looking out for us.
It's great to see Be branching out, but is this Good or Bad?
They are branching out and creating more versitile systems for muliple uses... yet their main product still needs some support, help, and effort behind it. The upcoming free BeOS 5 will help them, but does this move stregnthen or dilute them? I don't know...
No, no, no. Nominees are eligible because they do not have ballads (yet) singing their praises. Although Alan's been on t-shirts and mentioned in numerous.sig's, we have yet to hear a song about him.
There was a bit of contoversy with the other nominees, because although Linus has not yet had any folk-songs sung of him by the firelight, he was excluded becuase there was an off-off-broadway musical about him. While some argue that this is not in the spirit of a true hero's song, others maintain that ANY song qualifies to create an officialy 'Sung Hero'.
Please reply and add if I have missed any. Make sure your tables degrade linearly. If you actually read through it as written, does it make sense? Browsers that don't display tables will just read straight through it, ignoring the formatting code you've written. It should appear as:
Name of site menu - menu - menu - menu - menu
title of page content page content
or something similar (simple, functional). I have to say, your topic line fooled me. This is certainly NOT the place to draw the line. ALT is practically mandatory for this very reason! I'd like to know who got paid to make a site that doesn't work. </angry> On a somewhat related note, this is one of the problems presented by Flash, movies, or audio content: make sure it's not critical to navigation (or anything else) on your site.
With out graphics, the web is nothing more than color, glorified Gopher.
Whoa, no-one is talking about taking graphics out. That's why we have ALT and LONGDESC attributes for IMG tags. If you use these attributes, and make sure that your site degrades linearly, there should not be ANYONE who has a problem viewing your site. You could also re-direct to a "simple" version of your site, but thats a bit unnecessary considering the above, if you ask me.
What angers me most, is that I consider all these points to be a side-effect of good design. I'd like to know exactly who gets paid to make sites that don't work.
My rule of thumb is that if it works and looks good in a lynx, it'll work anywhere.
I haven't noticed PA "trying to actually gather more technologically-minded people" but I have noticed that there are more there than in most areas. I think ESR was in Chester County for quite some time, but he still could be, for all I know. I'm on Long Island right now, and I can't seem to find many geeks. Everytime I go to Philly/King of Prussia area, I practically trip over tech jobs and big companies. I sure don't have any stats, but that's what I see...
sure, I may have liked others more, but do we remember what they're for? (remember the Outpost.com commercials from last year? They were fast to tv spots, but most people didnt know what the site was!)
In my book, the most effective today were: pets.com (which elicited a positive remark from all the non-tech people in the room) and the mountain dew w/ the wild cat also, etrade spent so much money that its hard for me not to remember (note: Ameritrade was absent, but expect more from them now, in the week after the bowl)
But, here's the thing: come back in exactly one week and ask people what their favorite ones were. I'm not kidding. If JonKatz is reading this: [make yourself look smart and write about the bowl in a week or even a month!] It's then we'll know. Also, what will these do to the bottom lines to the various companies 6 months from now?
If Valenti resisted efforts for rating systems, maybe we can paint him as anti-consumer rights. Claiming fair use of products that we own, could we find a way to get the very outspoken Sen. Lieberman to champion our cause? After all, rating systems empower the buyer to make informed purchases, and DeCSS allows us to view products that we have bought. Am I on the right track, or am I way off-base, here?
"The enemy of my enemy..." (or, "... keep your enemies closer").
At my university, (if my sources are right) Pepsi has outbid Coke for the drink contract. Sure, we get Mountain Dew, but now we're missing Cherry Coke. Where does the madness end?
At any rate, in the case of food, it's outsourcing to the lowest bidder. But with the phone thing, I think it's more of a profit/monopoly, and a greater problem.
Is there a central site where all of our Linux (or any!) concerns and petitions can be centralized and addressed? Or, do we have to depend on/. to post every little thing that we feel needs to be done?
I'm not advocating we use petitions like they (meaning THEY) use patents (that is, abuse them), but I think a site that adresses such concerns could be a Good Thing.
They won't do it because it would be useless. Like 0.5% of PC users actually use Linux, what would they be getting out of it, 2 more copies of starcraft sold?
If we make a strong showing on the boards, maybe we can get some attention from Blizzard!
Part game, part porn. Now there's an idea! Seriously, though; is there an apple emu for Linux? I still have my freakin' Apple ][e hooked up. Ultima, Spy Hunter, Robotron, Infocom games, and Wheel of Fortune (er... scratch that)
Slashdot Mirror
Ok, I've seen a couple shows, but Cats was not one of them. (I'm allergic)
Is it really that good? It seems a little silly next to the Berlin Wall, but then I guess under that measure most of the other stamps do, too.
Maybe that price 'includes' one of those $400 MSN "rebates" you get when you sign up for 3 years - it has a 56k modem packaged with it, after all. And I have seen (well, perceived, anyway) a renewed push by MS to sell their ISP.
Also included is a 19" TV. Rumor has it that it only tunes to MSNBC when you turn it on, though (plus it keeps a little logo in the corner when watching any channel).
Oh, and I bet the X-Box won't be available in Europe until over a year after the US release.
...but I'm afraid that you're right. I saw one story that did not have a SINGLE "3" post after a day.
I think your proposal is a _bit_ unbalanced, though. I read slashdot for over a year before getting a login, because as a mere "power user", I had a feeling that people who post here must really know there stuff (heh). So why should I be punished (yes, thats what it is) with a default "0" comment just because I lurked for a while? A better method (imo) would be more simply to penalize people with negative karma with a lower default.
-- and I'm not sure if making demands is fair to the founders of this site, who probably put up with a lot of @#%%!
The thing that prompted me to join, btw, was that I had a story posted and it gave me a real sense that this was truly a ground-up website...
Obviously, somebody interested in a candidate can go to their .com and learn more, but what efforts can be made to reach out to voters over the internet? Are there representatives visiting the websites of various organizations in a similar way that a campaign might visit a brick and mortar meeting place of a community?
It's better than "Street Fighter" versioning. We could be still stuck on version 4; be thankful we're not.
Think of it: Super Netscape 4 Turbo
Usually, I would agree with you that such blatantly... obvious tactics are pretty silly, but you have missed something.
My understanding is that Netscape 5 was developed for a while on the old code; but as that code officially sucks, they scrapped it and went with starting from scratch - and with the bazaar model of development, to boot!
Thats all I gots to say...
I think this is about companies who want to control the consumption of their products. They are bypassing natural laws of consumption by creating dams which can slow or even halt the distibution of a product. Regional coding is a perfect example of this.
Since I'm not in the business, I don't know why this is a good thing for companies (apart from the very fact they are in control). Perhaps by slowing the distibution of their product and extending it over a longer time period, the product remains in the spotlight for a longer time, creating more attention around it.
Since I'm done postulating nonsense and making horrible spellink errors, I'll stop now.
I'd rate the probablity of actually getting said money at just about the same as, say, Rob and Heather Graham dating.
"..I'd say more like one in a million."
"So you're saying there's a chance?!?"
It is eminently clear to me what is happening. The technology 'experts' have finally succeeded in creating far-reaching dependencies on the machines of hell that they have conjured. And now, these "techies" are using computers as their personal drones and foot soldiers to inflate their egos and promote their anarchist agendas. Make no mistake; these are the same spindly pale-faced freaks that you used to shove in lockers. Now, they are hell-bent on revenge because nature has dealt them a painfully small hand. This is a conspiracy; and it is vast. Not only far reaching because of the amount of people involved, but also because of how long it has been happening. Decades ago the seeds were planted with the beginning of what became the Y2K fiasco. They purposefully created fear in order to strip us of our money and our pride. Is there anything that can be done to stop these heathens? Yes, and the points below are a great outline as to how and where to begin overthrowing the nerdopoly we find ourselves serving under and slaves to.
1) Dispose of your personal computer. AOL chat and your personal greeting card software have not contributed anything to your life.
2) If there is a report about "hackers" on the television, turn it off. All of the media is now a collective puppet to these ingrates and atheists that they are reporting on, and have refused to expose the truth about the real danger that these 'people' pose to our society. They exist only to expose our children to pornography, our minds to confusion, and our wallets to theft.
3) Demand that your local library and schools remove computers. These places should be a second home where we are provided with assurances that our American and Christian ideals are protected, not a social petri dish or a home for anarchist and anti-democratic sentiments.
There are certainly other measures that we can take to protect ourselves from these wholly evil creatures of technology and lust, but I think these are important first steps. Thank Our Lord that we have still have the American government and tried-and-true capitalism looking out for us.
Yes, I was kidding.
It's great to see Be branching out, but is this Good or Bad?
They are branching out and creating more versitile systems for muliple uses... yet their main product still needs some support, help, and effort behind it. The upcoming free BeOS 5 will help them, but does this move stregnthen or dilute them? I don't know...
nope, don't chell speck.
heh. I thought the obvious answer was "Cam". [for chamaeleon, or camouflage]
too bad "Tux" is taken; it'd be perfect. </sarcasm>
No, no, no. Nominees are eligible because they do not have ballads (yet) singing their praises. Although Alan's been on t-shirts and mentioned in numerous .sig's, we have yet to hear a song about him.
There was a bit of contoversy with the other nominees, because although Linus has not yet had any folk-songs sung of him by the firelight, he was excluded becuase there was an off-off-broadway musical about him. While some argue that this is not in the spirit of a true hero's song, others maintain that ANY song qualifies to create an officialy 'Sung Hero'.
Please reply and add if I have missed any.
Make sure your tables degrade linearly. If you actually read through it as written, does it make sense? Browsers that don't display tables will just read straight through it, ignoring the formatting code you've written. It should appear as:
Name of site
menu - menu - menu - menu - menu
title of page content
page content
or something similar (simple, functional). I have to say, your topic line fooled me. This is certainly NOT the place to draw the line. ALT is practically mandatory for this very reason! I'd like to know who got paid to make a site that doesn't work. </angry>
On a somewhat related note, this is one of the problems presented by Flash, movies, or audio content: make sure it's not critical to navigation (or anything else) on your site.
With out graphics, the web is nothing more than color, glorified Gopher.
Whoa, no-one is talking about taking graphics out. That's why we have ALT and LONGDESC attributes for IMG tags. If you use these attributes, and make sure that your site degrades linearly, there should not be ANYONE who has a problem viewing your site. You could also re-direct to a "simple" version of your site, but thats a bit unnecessary considering the above, if you ask me.
No, I don't spell check...
Indeed, this is a must-read for anyone who gets paid to do websites.
What angers me most, is that I consider all these points to be a side-effect of good design. I'd like to know exactly who gets paid to make sites that don't work.
My rule of thumb is that if it works and looks good in a lynx, it'll work anywhere.
I haven't noticed PA "trying to actually gather more technologically-minded people" but I have noticed that there are more there than in most areas. I think ESR was in Chester County for quite some time, but he still could be, for all I know. I'm on Long Island right now, and I can't seem to find many geeks. Everytime I go to Philly/King of Prussia area, I practically trip over tech jobs and big companies. I sure don't have any stats, but that's what I see...
It's completely dumb at worst, and mildly interesting at best.
Everyone donate one dollar, and we can make a remake of that '84 Big Brother ad, but for Linux.
"Think really different." And a picture of Tux.
Eh, I'm dreaming again. Sorry. (Score: -1, OffTopic)...
AFAIK, all the streams are only in QT(4). Guess Linux users can't watch.
:(
Just a warning so that you don't wait for the page to load for nothing. (It's going pretty slowly now, probably due to superbowl/slashdot hits.)
Dual Boot? Try shutdown -r now
sure, I may have liked others more, but do we remember what they're for? (remember the Outpost.com commercials from last year? They were fast to tv spots, but most people didnt know what the site was!)
In my book, the most effective today were:
pets.com (which elicited a positive remark from all the non-tech people in the room)
and the mountain dew w/ the wild cat
also, etrade spent so much money that its hard for me not to remember (note: Ameritrade was absent, but expect more from them now, in the week after the bowl)
But, here's the thing: come back in exactly one week and ask people what their favorite ones were. I'm not kidding. If JonKatz is reading this: [make yourself look smart and write about the bowl in a week or even a month!] It's then we'll know. Also, what will these do to the bottom lines to the various companies 6 months from now?
Wait 'n' see!
If Valenti resisted efforts for rating systems, maybe we can paint him as anti-consumer rights. Claiming fair use of products that we own, could we find a way to get the very outspoken Sen. Lieberman to champion our cause? After all, rating systems empower the buyer to make informed purchases, and DeCSS allows us to view products that we have bought. Am I on the right track, or am I way off-base, here?
"The enemy of my enemy..." (or, "... keep your enemies closer").
At my university, (if my sources are right) Pepsi has outbid Coke for the drink contract. Sure, we get Mountain Dew, but now we're missing Cherry Coke. Where does the madness end?
At any rate, in the case of food, it's outsourcing to the lowest bidder. But with the phone thing, I think it's more of a profit/monopoly, and a greater problem.
Is there a central site where all of our Linux (or any!) concerns and petitions can be centralized and addressed? Or, do we have to depend on /. to post every little thing that we feel needs to be done?
I'm not advocating we use petitions like they (meaning THEY) use patents (that is, abuse them), but I think a site that adresses such concerns could be a Good Thing.
I went here and got this response:
They won't do it because it would be useless. Like 0.5% of PC users actually use Linux, what would they be getting out of it, 2 more copies of starcraft sold?
If we make a strong showing on the boards, maybe we can get some attention from Blizzard!
Part game, part porn. Now there's an idea! Seriously, though; is there an apple emu for Linux? I still have my freakin' Apple ][e hooked up. Ultima, Spy Hunter, Robotron, Infocom games, and Wheel of Fortune (er... scratch that)