No deaths so far linked to the current outbreak, but per TFA, deaths have occurred in the past:
Wasn’t there a romaine problem just recently?
A couple of them—which suggests there’s an ongoing problem, though no one has proved where the shared vulnerability is. A massive outbreak of E. coli O157 illness linked to romaine between March and June of this year sickened 210 people in 36 states, killing five of them; eight Canadians got sick as well, but survived. A separate O157 outbreak in 2017, caused by romaine in Canada and unspecified “leafy greens” in the U.S., sickened 42 Canadians and caused one death. Twenty-five Americans got sick too, one of whom died.
Going further back, wholesale salad mixes caused an O157 outbreak in 2013 (33 victims), a different brand of bagged salad caused a similar outbreak in 2012 (33 victims that time, too), and bagged spinach sickened 199 people in 26 states in 2006 and killed two elderly women and a baby.
The CDC said Tuesday that the E. coli strain in the current outbreak has the same genetic fingerprint as the 2017 outbreaks—but not the same as the giant romaine outbreak that occurred earlier this year.
So, let me guess: The FDA finds one bad piece of lettuce they go crazy and say no lettuce. Similarly, the lettuce companies believe there is one bad chunk of lettuce, they also go nuts and say no lettuce. So unless the FDA and the lettuce companies say to eat lettuce, nobody is eating lettuce. Apparently other products are unaffected and you may eat them at your own risk or at the risk of your customers and those products are fighting for the unspent lettuce money. Do I have that right?
Well... no! It's right in TFA:
The CDC said it was making the recommendation to not eat, serve or sell any romaine lettuce because 32 people in 11 states, plus 18 people in Ontario and Quebec, have been made ill by E. coli O157:H7, which causes very serious illness because it produces a toxin that destroys cells lining the intestines and kidneys. The patients are all infected with the same strain, based on genetic fingerprinting, and the only thing they have in common is that they all ate romaine.
That's a tad more serious than "one bad piece of lettuce."
Jarod Diamond covered diseases as being one of the things that a civilization needs to conquer another in a book titled, "Guns, Germs and Steel".
FTFY. But your original was unintentionally funny.
I cannot recommend Diamond's book ighly enough. It was a long, but very enlightening read for me. For the TL/DR crowd: his thesis is that the rise and dominance of European civilization was primarily a fluke of geography that allowed its inhabitants to cultivate crops and form specializations in society earlier than other parts of the world.
The Senate was *NOT* supposed to be elected by the people -- they were supposed to be appointed by respective states to represent the states interests. The 17th amendment changed that -- and while I understand the reason why, it had unintended consequences on our republic. And we *ARE* more a republic than a democracy -- or at least were were originally designed to be so. Senators were to be allowed to serve without the need to round support (campaign) and no be influenced by the passions of the population to any great degree.
There are still some countries that appoint, rather than elect, their senators. Canada, for example. Also, in the United Kingdom, most of the members of the House of Lords (roughly the equivalent to the Senate) are appointed, while a smaller number are granted membership through peerage. The latter include a handful of bishops and hereditary peers, as well as some in society and commerce who bought their way into the chamber (e.g., the now-disgraced Conrad Black, who obtained membership when he purchased the Telegraph.)
Instead of powering Norsk cruise ships to carry around the One Percent, wouldn't it be better to use those dead fish as fertilizer to grow food to feed the other Ninety Nine Percent?
Excellent question. I wonder if the decommissioned material could still be used as fertilizer. That might be a win-win.
One solution is ranked choice voting, which was used in Maine on Nov 6th. A few voters were confused, and counting the ballots was slow, but it is clearly an improvement over plurality voting. Hopefully it will catch on nationally.
This. ShanghaiBill, I rarely agree with what you say. But you're right on this one. Arrow's Impossibility Theorm (linked in the Wikipedia article you provided) states that no election system is perfect. But runoffs (or its simpler alternative, ranked voting) are the best of all the imperfect solutions.
Another improvement is the nonpartisan primaries used in California state (but not federal) elections. Only the top two proceed to the general election, regardless of party. So in some liberal districts the general election is blue-on-blue. This system tends to encourage moderates over wing-nuts, and California is slowly becoming less dysfunctional.
Hm. Yes, better... but not as good as runoff/ranked voting IMHO. It encourages multi-party participation.
If you mean she's not drawing a salary, that's irrelevant. She is in fact doing work in the whitehouse, so she must abide by the the relevant rules.
She has the legal right to use perusal this email for whatever she wants.
Unless it violates federal record rules, which TFA says is the issue. Maybe not worth more than a finger-wag, but it still needs to be addressed and fixed.
You joke, but actually plasma fusion reactors are quite safe -- far safer than their fission counterparts.
Even if all of the matter inside a fusion reactor were to fuse simultaneously -- a physical impossibility -- the worst that would happen is significant damage to the reactor building. There simply isn't enough matter inside the reactor at any time to do worse.
So serious question: how many oceans will that boil? It's one thing to have the moon that hot, it's another to have the head of a pin that hot. Or are the just going after temperature quantity rather than size/mass?
You're on the right track. Temperature != Heat. The plasma in the outer magnetosphere of the earth has a temperature of thousands of degrees kelvin, but it doesn't melt a spacecraft that's in it. Why? It's sparse. The average kinetic energy of particles in the plasma is high (i.e., high temperature) but the power per unit area that strikes the spacecraft is very low.
That being said, the plasma inside a Tokomak can certainly melt something. That's (part of) why there is so much effort put into magnetic confinement.
"Won?" Perhaps, but nobody has called this contest yet. I suspect he may survive the potential recount and tallying of yet-uncounted ballots, but let's not be premature.
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It's fake news. And to all those saying the CDC is the source, not CNN/MSNBC, can you say "Deep state"?
Can you say "conspiracy-stoking idiot troll?"
> [CDC] isn't usually so sweeping in its statements, but with a holiday coming...
Seriously? If (like me) you were wondering whether that clanger came from the CDC itself or the vapid press (Wired in this case), it's the latter.
No, Wired did not make it up. The alert really is from the CDC.
No deaths so far linked to the current outbreak, but per TFA, deaths have occurred in the past:
Wasn’t there a romaine problem just recently?
A couple of them—which suggests there’s an ongoing problem, though no one has proved where the shared vulnerability is. A massive outbreak of E. coli O157 illness linked to romaine between March and June of this year sickened 210 people in 36 states, killing five of them; eight Canadians got sick as well, but survived. A separate O157 outbreak in 2017, caused by romaine in Canada and unspecified “leafy greens” in the U.S., sickened 42 Canadians and caused one death. Twenty-five Americans got sick too, one of whom died.
Going further back, wholesale salad mixes caused an O157 outbreak in 2013 (33 victims), a different brand of bagged salad caused a similar outbreak in 2012 (33 victims that time, too), and bagged spinach sickened 199 people in 26 states in 2006 and killed two elderly women and a baby.
The CDC said Tuesday that the E. coli strain in the current outbreak has the same genetic fingerprint as the 2017 outbreaks—but not the same as the giant romaine outbreak that occurred earlier this year.
So, let me guess:
The FDA finds one bad piece of lettuce they go crazy and say no lettuce.
Similarly, the lettuce companies believe there is one bad chunk of lettuce, they also go nuts and say no lettuce.
So unless the FDA and the lettuce companies say to eat lettuce, nobody is eating lettuce.
Apparently other products are unaffected and you may eat them at your own risk or at the risk of your customers and those products are fighting for the unspent lettuce money.
Do I have that right?
Well ... no! It's right in TFA:
The CDC said it was making the recommendation to not eat, serve or sell any romaine lettuce because 32 people in 11 states, plus 18 people in Ontario and Quebec, have been made ill by E. coli O157:H7, which causes very serious illness because it produces a toxin that destroys cells lining the intestines and kidneys. The patients are all infected with the same strain, based on genetic fingerprinting, and the only thing they have in common is that they all ate romaine.
That's a tad more serious than "one bad piece of lettuce."
I cannot recommend Diamond's book highly enough.
Doh, irony. I correct someone else's typo, then make one of my own. Sorry.
Jarod Diamond covered diseases as being one of the things that a civilization needs to conquer another in a book titled, "Guns, Germs and Steel" .
FTFY. But your original was unintentionally funny.
I cannot recommend Diamond's book ighly enough. It was a long, but very enlightening read for me. For the TL/DR crowd: his thesis is that the rise and dominance of European civilization was primarily a fluke of geography that allowed its inhabitants to cultivate crops and form specializations in society earlier than other parts of the world.
I read no other news, so I messed this when it came out two days ago. So I ate romaine lettuce and now I am shitting my pants.
If you're depending on slashdot for up-to-the minute news of any kind, you're doing it wrong.
On the other hand, if you want periodic reminders of news stories in the form of dupes, then you've come to the right place. :-p
I'm defiantly not in a Rural area,
Why defiant? So much attitude!
definite -> definate -> defiant
misspelling + dyslexia = serendipitous meaning
Came here to say that. You beat me to it.
All this Newspeak is double-plus-ungood.
How long until we have more camera on our phones than a fly???
Uh...that happened already.
Number of cameras on my flip-phone I retired years ago: 1
Number of cameras on a fly: 0
5G is coming.
It's already available in some markets. But I suppose that depends on what you call 5G.
Interesting post. Regarding this:
The Senate was *NOT* supposed to be elected by the people -- they were supposed to be appointed by respective states to represent the states interests. The 17th amendment changed that -- and while I understand the reason why, it had unintended consequences on our republic. And we *ARE* more a republic than a democracy -- or at least were were originally designed to be so. Senators were to be allowed to serve without the need to round support (campaign) and no be influenced by the passions of the population to any great degree.
There are still some countries that appoint, rather than elect, their senators. Canada, for example. Also, in the United Kingdom, most of the members of the House of Lords (roughly the equivalent to the Senate) are appointed, while a smaller number are granted membership through peerage. The latter include a handful of bishops and hereditary peers, as well as some in society and commerce who bought their way into the chamber (e.g., the now-disgraced Conrad Black, who obtained membership when he purchased the Telegraph.)
I produce copious amounts of Biogas.
My dear friend, there is help.
No, really.
Instead of powering Norsk cruise ships to carry around the One Percent, wouldn't it be better to use those dead fish as fertilizer to grow food to feed the other Ninety Nine Percent?
Excellent question. I wonder if the decommissioned material could still be used as fertilizer. That might be a win-win.
One solution is ranked choice voting, which was used in Maine on Nov 6th. A few voters were confused, and counting the ballots was slow, but it is clearly an improvement over plurality voting. Hopefully it will catch on nationally.
This. ShanghaiBill, I rarely agree with what you say. But you're right on this one. Arrow's Impossibility Theorm (linked in the Wikipedia article you provided) states that no election system is perfect. But runoffs (or its simpler alternative, ranked voting) are the best of all the imperfect solutions.
Another improvement is the nonpartisan primaries used in California state (but not federal) elections. Only the top two proceed to the general election, regardless of party. So in some liberal districts the general election is blue-on-blue. This system tends to encourage moderates over wing-nuts, and California is slowly becoming less dysfunctional.
Hm. Yes, better ... but not as good as runoff/ranked voting IMHO. It encourages multi-party participation.
She's a White House employee. Her job is called "Senior Advisor to the President". Even comes with a paycheck.
A paycheck that she does not receive.
Not that that changes anything of course. She is indeed an employee.
She’s not a whitehouse employee.
If you mean she's not drawing a salary, that's irrelevant. She is in fact doing work in the whitehouse, so she must abide by the the relevant rules.
She has the legal right to use perusal this email for whatever she wants.
Unless it violates federal record rules, which TFA says is the issue. Maybe not worth more than a finger-wag, but it still needs to be addressed and fixed.
Quantum computing is simultaneously both possible and impossible.
It was possible, the last time I looked. Then I looked again, and it wasn't.
Correct. Temperature != Heat Capacity. Thanks for the improvement.
You joke, but actually plasma fusion reactors are quite safe -- far safer than their fission counterparts.
Even if all of the matter inside a fusion reactor were to fuse simultaneously -- a physical impossibility -- the worst that would happen is significant damage to the reactor building. There simply isn't enough matter inside the reactor at any time to do worse.
So serious question: how many oceans will that boil? It's one thing to have the moon that hot, it's another to have the head of a pin that hot. Or are the just going after temperature quantity rather than size/mass?
You're on the right track. Temperature != Heat. The plasma in the outer magnetosphere of the earth has a temperature of thousands of degrees kelvin, but it doesn't melt a spacecraft that's in it. Why? It's sparse. The average kinetic energy of particles in the plasma is high (i.e., high temperature) but the power per unit area that strikes the spacecraft is very low.
That being said, the plasma inside a Tokomak can certainly melt something. That's (part of) why there is so much effort put into magnetic confinement.
They achieved the temperature required to maintain a reaction above energy break-even, but likely they could not maintain it because of instabilities.
As an AC poster suggested, there is more than one criterion for maintaining a fusion reaction.
Microsoft is not a sex toy. More like S&M.
I think Dyson should make sex toys.
"Won?" Perhaps, but nobody has called this contest yet. I suspect he may survive the potential recount and tallying of yet-uncounted ballots, but let's not be premature.