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Ivanka Trump Used Personal Account For Emails About Government Business (washingtonpost.com)
The Washington Post is reporting that Ivanka Trump used a personal email account to send hundreds of emails last year to White House aids, Cabinet officials and her assistants. Many of the emails were "in violation of federal records rules," the report says. Ivanka's practices are reminiscent of the personal email account Hillary Clinton used as secretary of state. From the report: White House ethics officials learned of Trump's repeated use of personal email when reviewing emails gathered last fall by five Cabinet agencies to respond to a public records lawsuit. That review revealed that throughout much of 2017, she often discussed or relayed official White House business using a private email account with a domain that she shares with her husband, Jared Kushner. Some aides were startled by the volume of Ivanka Trump's personal emails -- and taken aback by her response when questioned about the practice. Trump said she was not familiar with some details of the rules, according to people with knowledge of her reaction. A spokesperson for Ivanka Trump's attorney and ethics counsel, Abbe Lowell, "acknowledged that the president's daughter occasionally used her private email before she was briefed on the rules, but he said none of her messages contained classified information," reports Washington Post.
"While transitioning into government, after she was given an official account but until the White House provided her the same guidance they had given others who started before she did, Ms. Trump sometimes used her personal account, almost always for logistics and scheduling concerning her family," he said in a statement. He went on to say that her email use was different than that of Clinton. "Ms. Trump did not create a private server in her house or office, no classified information was ever included, the account was never transferred at Trump Organization, and no emails were ever deleted," Mirijanian said.
"While transitioning into government, after she was given an official account but until the White House provided her the same guidance they had given others who started before she did, Ms. Trump sometimes used her personal account, almost always for logistics and scheduling concerning her family," he said in a statement. He went on to say that her email use was different than that of Clinton. "Ms. Trump did not create a private server in her house or office, no classified information was ever included, the account was never transferred at Trump Organization, and no emails were ever deleted," Mirijanian said.
Seems reasonable
I hate both parties. Both parties suffer from personality worship disorder. Some one needs to invent slime-antivirus to clean out DC.
Unless you compare her actions to everyone else in the WH, this is irrelevant.
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It must be so embarrassing to be American right now
Hillary had a whole personal server to send government and classified secret info
Wake me up when they at least make an effort
She is a CIVILIAN. And her participation in the presidency is "Voluntary" In Addition.... "Ms. Trump did not create a private server in her house or office, no classified information was ever included, the account was never transferred at Trump Organization, and no emails were ever deleted," Aka, nothing illegal was done...
And the article:
> "While transitioning into government, after she was given an official account but until the White House provided her the same guidance they had given others who started before she did, Ms. Trump sometimes used her personal account, almost always for logistics and scheduling concerning her family," he said in a statement. He went on to say that her email use was different than that of Clinton. "Ms. Trump did not create a private server in her house or office, no classified information was ever included, the account was never transferred at Trump Organization, and no emails were ever deleted," Mirijanian said.
Using personal email for work and vice-versa is something everybody does, even though it's often against some policy.
What matters is whether Classified information is being sent over unsecured links.
OK, I've seen this post or something similar a couple of times, now. What's the gag on this? Go ahead, say "woosh", but explain please.
Some hearings should get to the bottom of this right quick
"Ms. Trump did not create a private server in her house or office, ..."
How is using the Trump Organization's server any better than using one in her own home or office? In fact, it is likely worse, because there will be more people with administrative access, simply because it is a bigger organization.
The real "Libtards" are the Libertarians!
Ivanka’s personal email is being hosted on a server running in Hillary Clinton’s basement.
#DeleteChrome
Ivanka Trump was made Secretary of state?
Does she have any contractual obligation to the government/people?
If Hillary can delete over 30k emails with bleachbit while under subpoena and have zero negative consequences, what's the problem?
"from the hypocrisy-at-its-finest dept."
I was unaware also that Ivanka Trump is the Secretary of Stare much less an elected government official. Let's crucify Orange Man's "Russian" wife for asking to have the color of the drapes changed by her personal email.
Kill yourself, Beau. The world would be better without you.
Since you don't know the difference between the wife and the daughter, (assuming there is one) we'll just take your opinion at face value.
The KGB is strong with this one
Wife and daughter are not mutually exclusive positions.
of the emails. What I care about is that my public officials are using private email servers to get around public records requests.
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Russia is scraping the bottom of the barrel if they are astroturfing this ghost town
Too privileged
why is Trump's daughter high enough in the administration that this matters? Can you say Conflict of Interest? How about emoluments clause? And yes, I'm not ashamed I had to google how to spell "emoluments".
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Ivanka's wine preference isn't exactly classified information, NPC.
Slashdot couldn’t be bothered with ONE post when Hillary, as SECRETARY OF STATE used her private email server for blatantly official state business.
Now Ivanka uses it to send emails about party planning and slashdot is breathless about... well about what? Hillary is INNOCENT right? So there’s no story here?
Or is there?
Still waiting for the breathless slashdot reporting about the massive voting irregularities in Florida, Wisconsin, Montana, California and Georgia where hundreds of thousands of votes mysteriously appeared and swung elections to the Democrats. Looks like more evidence to me of Russians trying to interfere with the elections again?
Naaah naaah - the rank hypocrisy of the editors is a stench that permeates this site.
She's a federal employee, adviser to the President, and may have access to classified information. If she has done anything wrong in that role by using personal email in place of government email, then she should be tried, convicted, and punished. You do realize I never specific even said Ivanka committed a crime, right? I was speaking to the many politicians (Bush and Palin spring to mind) which clearly violate respective laws in their fields of government for either "losing" email or simply not using government email to avoid scrutiny.
But, keep spinning those wheels.
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As long as she used the one in her home, I guess it would be ok?
I mean, at least half of you MUST think that's ok (or you're hypocrites).
The other half must condemn her for this (or you're hypocrites too).
-Styopa
Gang rape is a signature democrat threat.
IIRC, during the campaign it came out that the Trump Org. server was a Win 2000 box. (Democrats argued that's how it was obvious they were the ones targeted, cause Trump's would have been trivial to hack.) Further, there is pretty ample evidence that both China and Russia have been pinging machines in Trump Tower at least since he announced.
So, it's probably far less secure, and probably already compromised.
There's also the factor that the record laws about email were at least new when Hiliary was SOS; Ivanka had a year and half lesson on it from her dad and every newspaper.
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It is a HUGE mistake to think that Hillary Clinton or Ivanka Trump know anything about technology.
Hillary Clinton had a "private email server"? Is it sensible to think that a 71-year-old woman, in her late 60s back then, had ANY understanding of email servers?
"Ivanka Trump used a personal email account to send hundreds of emails last year to White House aids"
Now we know the Truth(tm)!
...something, something, but some animals are more equal than others.
At this point who cares. If others in the past did it and didn't have any issues. Why not.
didn't hack her server in her bathroom closet might also be a valid argument in this discussion.
No real news here. Just a bunch of children crying, spitting, and jumping up and down trying to prove that the daughter is as dirty as a Clinton. lol
Because itâ(TM)s 90% alt-right trolls. Thats why its dropping.
anything with even the whiff of actual/potentical illegality the DEM, GOP, Intelligence, Media and Deep State establishments will destroy, convict and jail those family members and anyone else even remotely involved.
;)
That is guaranteed by the current state of affairs at the federal government level. The concepts of Political Ideology, Justice and Politics have merged and are now one with the accepted Group Think.
Honesty, Justice and Truth have no place in our current completely warped reality in Washington DC.
Don't get me wrong, If actual crimes were committed justice should be served.
Just my 2 cents
I was unaware also that Ivanka Trump is the Secretary of Stare
I saw what you did there.
What are you staring at?
I have lived n California for 40 years. In which universe do you live where California is becoming more functional? I want to move there.
Lock him up!
clearly you don't know jack about how poorly managed email servers are. Unless a person is using a managed cloud email service with built-in intrusion detection, virus/trojan scanning and automated encryption, most email servers are dog shit and poorly managed. Before the financial crash, I know many investment banks had shoddy email server security. These are big investment banks in the NorthEast run by companies that managed billions. Wrong is wrong. No one working in the government should be using personal email period. Yeah it's a hassle. So what, you took the job and that's the price. Anyone making excuses for anyone that broke the rule has their head up their ass.
The universe where cranky Republicans are being phased out.
I've been doing technology support for decades. Recently I have wanted to find someone to do some computer hardware maintenance. I contacted an association of computer consultants. I did not find a sufficiently competent person.
Does anyone think Hillary Clinton has ANY ability to understand ANYTHING about technology?
It seems to me that the problems could have been caused by less-than-competent government workers who do not know how to communicate clearly.
You will notice that none from the right will start defending Ivanka nor try to justify the actions nor to weasel out of responsibility.
This entire story is made up bullshit as is the usual for lamestreme media. Ivanka's service was merely in transitioned from private to public as she adopted more responsibalities and went into amazing service with Trump administration. Shes doing AMAZING job! Nothing to see here, sorry libtards, you sorry schity fucks. We are still going to chant:
LOCK CLINTON UP.
At every 200,000+ (and ALWAYS rising) attendence rally.
from Ross Perot. When I was a kid I thought he was an oil tycoon from how the media went on about him. Later I found out he made his billions cashing welfare checks. Literally. He got the contract to process the federal gov't's welfare checks and that's where all his money came from.
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they all did. She talked with Colin Powell about it. She knew it was wrong to store public documents and a private server. To her one and only credit she didn't throw Powell under the bus over it. But by then the media feeding frenzy was in full gear and her one and only noble gesture (taking responsibility for the whole fiasco) went nowhere.
Hilary is very, very intelligent. Not saying she uses that intelligence in the most upstanding manor. But make no mistake, her failing was arrogance, not stupidity.
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Bill Clinton plz go.
It will take a *minimum* of seven separate and mostly redundant congressional inquiries to get to the bottom of this! #POLITICALOUTRAGE am I doing it right @GOP?
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How does Apple toady feel about Trump conducting government business on an unsecured I-phone?
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
Iâ(TM)m supposed to think a corporate exchange server is categorically secured better than a home office exchange server, because... why? Youâ(TM)re making a lot of assumptions about Exchange admin experience in these situations that you shouldnâ(TM)t be.
NAZI FAGGOT KEN DOLL THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR LIES BITCH
Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING. Filter error: Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_and_Federal_Records_Act_Amendments_of_2014
The bill would prohibit the President, the Vice President, or a covered employee (i.e., the immediate staff of the President and Vice President or office advising and assisting the President or Vice President) from creating or sending a presidential or vice presidential record using a non-official electronic messaging account unless the President, Vice President, or covered employee: (1) copies an official electronic messaging account of the President, Vice President, or covered employee in the original creation or transmission of the presidential or vice presidential record; or (2) forwards a complete copy of the presidential record to an official electronic messaging account of the President, Vice President, or covered employee not later than 20 days after the original creation or transmission of the presidential or vice presidential record.[3]
Goose, meet gander. Stop lying Larry, stop obfuscating, or else.
Prior to becoming a federal employee, she used a personal email for government work.[87]
Emphasis added. Not an issue. She wasn't a Federal employee when she used it - she literally had no way of using Federal e-mail account.
How does Apple toady feel about Trump conducting government business on an unsecured I-phone?
I wouldn't know, being a security specialist an impartial observer. I'll give you and the other mouth-breathers my professional read on that situation though.
A) iPhones are probably way better secured by default than whatever they have done to the "official" government Blackberries or other phones.
B) Trump isn't conducting "government business" over an iPhone unless you consider tweeting "government business" - if you do, may God help you, as the rest of us certainly cannot.
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Ivanka didn't:
Set up a private email server in her own house the way Hillary did.
Send thousands of classified emails from said account.
Destroy thousands of pieces of evidence while under FBI investigation.
This is taking butthurt partisan false equivalencies to 11.
We know for sure the Chinese did.
Do we??? From your own fucking source:
“The FBI has not found any evidence the servers were compromised,” an FBI official told the Washington Examiner.
Additionally, the Examiner article's primary source for the claim that China did anything is an article by the Daily Caller News Foundation, which is itself repeating a claim made by an unnamed source that provided no actual evidence. The Daily Caller, you'll recall, is deep within the hyper-partisan conservative "nonsense damaging to public discourse" quadrant of the media bias chart.
You've effectively just cited as truth the news equivalent of "Well I heard from Marsha (ugh, she's such a gossip), who heard from her boyfriend who lives in Canada who we've never met but she says is totally chill, that Kim Jong Un secretly is going steady with Theresa May."
It is if you want to know which bottle to put the polonium in, NPC.
Wait, her dad's campaign, which she was heavily involved with, beat the Clinton email thing nonstop. How could she possibly have been unaware of the rules?
THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES FOR YOUR LIES NAZI FAGGOT KEN DOLL
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This has already been debunked as a fake report to distract from Hillary's illegal use of a personal server.
That's what makes these stories perfect. Either report on how someone outside of government had access to a government email account or how someone used a non-government account before and while transitioning into government. Report that the presidents wife Is illegally using government resources or that she didn't use them enough. Report that Trumps people are diplomatically inept and unwilling to take a perfectly reasonable meeting with Russia or report the scandal of how they were meeting with Russia... if you can flip a modern news story around and get just as bad of a scandal then it isn't news. And a lot of it isn't news. Evergreen quote: There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted â" and you create a nation of law-breakers â" and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.
I now expect a close-up of a pair of breasts to be shakin' & shimmied in front of the camera on the 6 o'clock news. Next!
APOLOGIST DETECTED
Without prosecution...
Must be O.K.
Fake news..
Move along..
She knew nothing about it..
Because this is like going after Obamas or Clintons daughters for using private email.
You're on Slashdot and you don't know the difference between a private email server and a personal email account...?
Have the russians found them as President Trump suggested?
I wonder if they'll got full Clinton and start smashing hard drives and cell phones with actual hammers.
PS:
I fucking hate the Dems and Reps equally.
fuck off. neither meet the security guidelines or data retention laws. gonna keep ignoring trump using an unsecured phone too? that's one weak ass narrative you're peddling.
Um. I know you're very busy getting all indignant and stuff, but if you have a minute, I'd like to point out that the Secretary of State is not an elected official. So your sentence makes no sense.
Jesus fucking wept, you people. Ivanka has an official position in the government. Chelsea Clinton and the Obama daughters did not.
Parties provide advantages for politicians. So even if you don't make parties part of your political system, the people voted in will arrange themselves into something that acts like political parties, those parties will form alliances and coalitions, and those coalitions will merge into two distinct groups, who will divide the population down the center.
As it is better that such things be regulated in some way, most countries make them part of the constitution, so their power is, to some extent, controlled.
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It's funny that several of the members of the Trump campaign and administration who led the chants "Lock Her Up!" at Donald Trump's many rallies, are now convicted felons facing prison sentences. But for Trump's own daughter to also use unsecured email for White House work, is worse. Will Donald Trump start chanting "Lock Her Up!" about Ivanka and her emails?
It BIGLY looks so good on you!!
much less an elected government official. L
She's certainly not an elected official.
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And about her use of e-mail?
Prior to becoming a federal employee, she used a personal email for government work.[87]
Emphasis added. Not an issue. She wasn't a Federal employee when she used it - she literally had no way of using Federal e-mail account.
If she's not a federal employee why is she doing government work?
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She turned them over months ago. There is no story here, just a bunch of liberal turds - stinking in a bowl.
I have to add to this: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/emails-show-nsa-rejected-hillary-clinton-request-for-secure-smartphone/
"...According to a summary of the meeting, the request was driven by Clinton's reliance on her BlackBerry for email and keeping track of her calendar. Clinton chose not to use a laptop or desktop computer that could have provided her access to email in her office..."
"...Mills also asked about waivers provided during the Bush administration to then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice for her staff to use BlackBerrys in their secure offices. But the NSA had phased out such waivers due to security concerns..."
He's been doing this for nearly 20 years, invariably getting himself banned from any board that requires a login. Here's one example from the good old days.
(He used to send very interesting emails to people, too, until somebody's lawyer had a nice little chat with him.)
You donâ(TM)t seem to understand that pure democratic voting on all issues is not our system and would be very bad. We have a REPUBLIC not a democracy! The founders hated democracy and saw it for what it is, mob rule.
Thank you, Hillary, for setting such a low standard and then getting away with it. It would be very hypocritical for Democrats to try to do anything about it now since they were so against doing anything about it when Hillary did it.
I rarely read replies, it's my opinion and if you thought about your opinion a little more, I'm OK with that.
This.
This!
A thousand times this!
Here in Europe, the Pirate Parties had that as part of their agenda, and even started implementing it as Liquid Democracy, based on LiquidFeedback https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiquidFeedback
Alas, after a brief glorious rise to a few parliaments, they more or less disintegrated due to a combination of PR and realpolitik incompetence, and the media feasting on click-generating scandalous sounding news.
You missed the double speak. Just because someone did something before X, does not mean they stopped doing so after X.
Anyone not still changing "lock her up" #ButHerEmails is a hypocrite. They were idiots before.. And probably hypocrites then too, but even more so now.
I'm sure Baron, who is great with the cyber, will resolve any complaints. Otherwise the rest of them are all grifters. Maybe Tiffany is excluded too, as the apparent pariah if that family she might not be trusted enough by the adults to be guilty.
Also.
#PrettyPutinInPink
Can't that country afford a shirt for their leader yet?
Daughter of the president is not an official position.
One of the more pernicious lies from Democrats on this issue is that the emails weren't marked as classified so Hillary's server was A-Okay. Which is total Nazi bullshit, as much of those conversations would have been inherently classified. If Hillary received an email from the ambassador to India on the state of Pakistan's nuclear weapons program, that email didn't have to be stamped as "classified" for it to be considered as such. Which Hillary would have known, as she was given special training as an Original Classification Authority.
If the USG manages to get Edward Snowden in a snatch-and-grab, I hope he argues in court that his actions were A-Okay because none of the documents he leaked had a big Classified header when he copied them. If only so we can watch Hillbots go on trying to rationalize her incompetent bullshit.
I guess the fucking point is that you are a coward who is afraid to stand up for their own words. You cower in the corner, balled up in the fetal position licking your own asshole instead of standing up for something. You are a failure in life. Feel free to kill yourself and rid the world of one more useless child-molesting impersonator coward who has nothing meaningful to say and is too cowardly to take ownership of their own words.
Also, you suck at trolling!
— gerald butler's impersonator
Report that Trumps people are diplomatically inept and unwilling to take a perfectly reasonable meeting with Russia or report the scandal of how they were meeting with Russia...
That's a bullshit spin. When he meets with Putin he does not follow established norms: no note-takers, no experts in the room with him. At best he brings a translator, but there have been times that he only relied on Putin's translator.
Even if you somehow still believe he's not Putin's asset, the point of having support staff at meetings with other heads of state is to protect against the other country being able to lie about the content of discussions and agreements. We saw Putin do exactly that after the Helsinki shit show:
Russia Says Agreements Were Discussed With Trump On Syria. The U.S. Is Silent
I wish we'd had this for Brexit as the will of the people for something akin to Norway or Chequers and 50% remain seems to have been reinterpreted as a mandate for scorched earth/return to eighteenth century by some.
Sincerely,
Donald
Polonium Deez nutz.
Ivanka's practices are reminiscent of the personal email account Hillary Clinton used as secretary of state.
Oh?
"Ms. Trump did not create a private server in her house or office, no classified information was ever included, the account was never transferred at Trump Organization, and no emails were ever deleted," Mirijanian said.
Oh. So except for being different in every key particular, especially the classified information, it was reminiscent. I see.
She's a trump. Lock her up.
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There isn't much of a difference! In both cases, microsoft software was used. In both cases, sys admins had access to the email that did not have appropriate background checks, etc.
Whether the server is in the basement or in a data center, it's equally hackable.
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Hilary had like 3 sys admins and 2 servers. Microsoft has hundreds of servers and quite a lot more sys admins and other employees who could access the system.
If you use Microsoft, Google Gmail or any other big provider, you're giving them access to read your email. That's how it works. Don't live in a fantasy world where this doesn't happen. I worked at an ISP. I know what people do with others email.
And you know this because Ivanka said so?
Hillary should have been tried for treason, he says! Quit embarrassing yourself.
Because loads of pro-trump bots crawl social media to excuse their hypocrisy and fake outrage
And about her use of e-mail?
Prior to becoming a federal employee, she used a personal email for government work.[87]
Emphasis added. Not an issue. She wasn't a Federal employee when she used it - she literally had no way of using Federal e-mail account.
Keep reading Jocko, later in the same cited wikipedia article, it covers the more recent use of personal e-mail for government business, after the March 29th, 2017 hiring of Ivanka as a government employee. And the source of the "it wasn't classified stuff"? A spokesman for Trump's "ethics counsel/council", however he spells it now.
Feels strange to type a sentence with "Trump" and "ethics" without including words like "bad" or "has no..."
We need Genocide. Genocide of all white males over the age of 32. We also need to kill all republicans. Once these simple tasks are accomplished the Entire multi-verse will exist in a state of existential peace and bliss.
Remember kids: "The only way to establish peace is through lots and lots of violence.:"
-Ghandi
you are one triggered snowflake. Why can't trumptards be consistent for a split second? hillary can burn in hell for all I care, but to be outraged about her usage of a private e-mail server, and then to immediately downplay ivanka's? you're making my job too easy; i don't have to do any work at all to point out your hypocrisy. it's always feels > reals from your corner though. the trumps don't give a flying fuck about keeping classified info safe. don't forget that trump is using an unsecured phone that is almost certainly being listened to https://www.nytimes.com/2018/1... . fuck off with that kys bullshit, you're a degenerate coward.
Let's not forget that Trump literally gave classified information directly to the Russians.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/trump-intel-slip
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
If she's not a federal employee why is she doing government work?
Transition, dumb fuck.
Feel free to cry moar anyhow, and stomp your little jackboots while completely "missing" the fact that nobody has ever given a shit about using personal e-mail accounts. Conveniently pretend you wouldn't be getting fucked up the ass right now (and enjoying it!) if you, like Hillary, unlike Ivanka, threw classified docs on a personal server.
It's the classified part, you toddling retard, and you're well aware of that.
IDK the answer in this specific case (and I don't really care); but as a general rule, people can do government work without being a federal employee. That is, "government" is not restricted to the federal level.
Transition, dumb fuck.
Wow, two years in, and still in transition. Hopefully she'll manage to finish that task (which normally takes a few weeks) by the time the four years are over.
Billy boy's not the one who publicly admitted to wanting to breed with his own daughter pal. That was Donnie.
Well apparently you don't, so why should he? The article is pretty damn explicit that it was a private email server they had set up under the ijkfamily.org domain.
Oh right... reading articles/summaries is for leftist commie pinko sjws. Or whatever the current random insult is.
Prove your naive notion entirely wrong. All of this hand wringing and teeth gnashing because Hillary was a bad candidate. She aint worth it, man!
You shitmongers were dribbling with glee at this being a priori a crime. Suddenly not so interested, are you, you knobgobbling cretin.
Yet STILL you scream LOCK HER UP!!!!
So, yeah, you didn't take the FBI's word for it, you DEFINITELY aren't allowed to take that lying slut Ivanka's word for it.
10 investigations and nothing found for Hillary. So because Hllary was ACCUSED WITHOUT EVIDENCE for four years, SUDDENLY you fuckwits insist that Ivanka doing MUCH MUCH WORSE should not only bot be investigated AT ALL but that it is HILLARY to blame for it!?!?!?!
Fucking moron.
Just as long as she wiped it afterward with a cloth.
If she's not a federal employee why is she doing government work?
If she became a federal employee in March and was sending emails in February to set up meetings in March it would satisfy all the conditions of the problem. Oh and look, here's a statement from the summary:
[...] before she did, Ms. Trump sometimes used her personal account, almost always for logistics and scheduling concerning her family.
I am a rabbit. My mother and father were rabbits...
I tried every decent and legal way I could think of to resolve the issue w/the business before I rented the chicken suit
So you are a sheep just like the rest that spew that crap out of your mouth? Please give me a couple of links to the facts you supposedly have.
I expected more from the readers and posters here. The above article is a exaggerated account of the use. No confidential emails were sent #1. Its not her SERVER, unlike Clinton. And nobody has deleted and then used a DBAN type tool to hide the evidence. Please be more responsible when post this stuff.
While what you say is true, there's a lot in there you did not say.
Most important is that the Republicans made a huge issue out of Hillary's e-mails. So why wasn't Ivanka forewarned? Wouldn't you think that the Trump Administration would want to be blameless, faultless, absolutely spotless on the issue of e-mails?
No, this is another instance of blatant Republican hypocrisy. What was bad for Hillary and the Democrats, is a "nothingburger" for the Trump Administration. Lies, lies and more lies.
What do the Republicans even stand for anymore? Does anyone know?
- personal morality and taking responsibility? Gone (Trump);
- fiscal responsibility, control of the debt and deficit? Gone (Trump);
- respect for the troops and the culture of the military? Gone (Trump);
- respect for the nation, the institutions of the nation, and civic institutions? Gone (Trump);
- business and trade friendly policies? Gone (Trump).
As far as I can tell, the Republicans have been reduced to standing for:
- Racist and xenophobic immigration policies;
- Protecting groups who don't need protection (the rich, Christians and gun owners);
- Cozying up to a random and puzzling group of dictators because they are "very strong";
- Saying anything (lies, sexism, bullying, evasions, random bullshit) is OK so long as you are defending the Republican tribe;
- hypocrisy is A-OK too, so long as it helps you keep power. In fact it is easy and the work of a Very Stable Genius!
The Republicans and their enablers have lost their souls. There was a certain Biblical Apostle who lost his soul too. What was that name again?
I find it hard to believe she did not get government guidelines about everything even before starting.
Seeing as how the government has the whole accountability and public records stuff.
In addition after the whole hillarys email debacle the sensitivity, especially in the trump camp, would suffice.
Though this does lead to a nice Catch22 scenario.
Either what Hillary did was wrong, then the gov has to also persue Ivanka.
Or he brushes it under the table as was done with Hillary, then he is a hypocrit and just as crooked as Hillary.
She is doing 'Trump' work.
A fair question. Of course, when the government has some control over literally everything the question becomes "what work isn't in some degree government work"?
We should wait for all the evidence before coming to the conclusion that is a legal nothingburger.
Do you people realize this is 1984. The media needs to be overthrown by force. They have declared war on us all.
When all is said and done, issues are only issues if the other guys team is doing it. When it's "our" team people will find a million reasons why it's different or justified.
Welcome to politics sheep.
It's entertaining to watch but sad to see the downward spiral our nation is headed in as the average American is politicized and unable to see across party lines.
People say that elected leaders show the values of a Nation.
Our values as a nation have changed dramatically over the past years.
#CrookedIvanka
Please give me a couple of links to the facts you supposedly have.
"I don't think Ivanka would do that inside the magazine [pose for Playboy] although she does have a very nice figure. I've said if Ivanka weren't my daughter perhaps I'd be dating her."
More: https://www.elitedaily.com/p/9...
Oh yeah, and this:
https://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-...
You said, "Hilary is very, very intelligent."
Please give an example of Hillary Clinton being intelligent. She handled the 2012 Benghazi attack in an extremely weak manner. People pretended she was responsible, but the head of an organization doesn't know everything that happens in an organization, and is not responsible for everything lower-level people do.
Also, intelligence does not mean knowledge of technology. What benefit would anyone think would come to her for installing a private server?
I think the Trumps are horrible for America, however this is not equivalent to the Clinton email scandal. Clinton was a many decades long Federal employee and should have known better.
"Ms. Trump did not create a private server in her house or office, no classified information was ever included, the account was never transferred at Trump Organization, and no emails were ever deleted,"
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This is "reminiscent of the personal email account Hillary Clinton used as secretary of state"...? Is that a joke? Ivanka holds no office and has no access to secure intelligence or classified operational data whereas Hillary compromised national security through the use of her personal server. Using a private mail server is nothing new, it's been done by officials of all types for decades... the transgressive distinction with Hillary's mail is not that she used a private server but what data she passed through that private server.
it was easier than using government servers
So no - not like Hillary's end-run around the law at all.
Even after she became an employee it could take weeks for IT to set up an account. Really.
Why is this even noteworthy?
If Ms Clinton can do the email thing so epically and deliberately wrong, with classified etc info flying about with nairy a care, then this Trump spawnâ(TM)s acts arenâ(TM)t worth much more time than it took to make this comment.
So you're just going to ignore the "if Ivanka weren't my daughter" part, and say he wants to breed with his daughter?
Un-huh. That is a special kind of stupid.
Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
As long as you don't forget that it was already public knowledge, and that Trump is literally the person that gets to decide what is and is not classified.
Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
I guess that depends what state you're in
You are the media, fool.
This is social media you are posting on. You have declared war in yourself.
Give him a lump of coal. Strike that he would light it. Give him a bottle of dehydrated water. That is safer.
Meanwhile, in America, we had an election where the Election Supervisor couldn't even tell a judge how many ballots had been cast several days after the election.
Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
Any man that ISN'T a complete chauvinist, would never say something like this about his daughter. BTW, he didn't say he'd marry her, just date her. To me that signifies sex only. I'd cringe all the same had he said, "Yeah man, I'd eat that pussy, if she wasn't my daughter."
Politics; n. : A religion whereby man is god.
Someone dig up JFK's grave. I think his head just exploded.
Er... again.
"If she's not a federal employee why is she doing government work?"
Good point. It usually works the other way around (government employees not doing any work). If we only had more government workers like her, our budget problems would be solved!
And that folks is why we know there are no secret aliens. If Trump had access to that information he's spill it in a heartbeat
Truth: If it's not one thing, it's another
The claim was that he said he would date her meaning he thinks she's sexually attractive. He said in plain words if she wasn't my daughter I would date her. Meaning he thinks his daughter his pretty enough for sexual relations.
Stop moving the goal posts.
So you're just going to ignore the "if Ivanka weren't my daughter" part, and say he wants to breed with his daughter?
The contortions you Trump apologists twist yourself into to explain away the behaviours of your Dear Leader never cease to amaze me.
Trump is creepy AF when it comes to how he talks about Ivanka, how he finds her sexy, and how he'd date her if she wasn't his daughter.
No normal father talks that way about his daughter.
Do you HONESTLY expect me to believe that if Obama said:
I've said if Sasha weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her. Isn't that terrible? How terrible? Is that terrible?
Yeah, Sasha's really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren't happily married and, ya know, her father...
You'd be completely fine with it?
Says her lawyer LUL.
You realize lawyers get PAID to lie for clients right?
The president has no control over what's classified and what isn'T. Half the time he's not even involved in the decisions being made.
Accuse others of what you do. People don't buy it anymore sorry dems
Domain = server? My local church has a google account with a private domain name, does that mean they have their own server? No, of course not.
Ivanka had a private email account with a private domain name, and during the transition period occasionally used private email to discuss her personal schedule for a short period of time (handful of months).
Hillary hired a consultant, bought hardware and software, and refused to EVER login to her official email account, conducting her official duties via her server for 4 years, then took 2 years to turn over selected work emails to the government, avoiding all oversight, retention, and FOIA requests.
Seems about equal.
Ken
Donald Trump is dumb as a blade of grass, but he's tremendously charismatic. Trump could have gotten away with Benghzi. He'd have said the same things, done the same things, and none of it would stick. Keep in mind Trump called getting an STD from sleeping around his Vietnam and got out of the war by claiming bone spurs while playing sports. Nothing sticks to him because he's got Charisma.
Point is, intelligence is not the same thing as Charisma.
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The stupid. It burns.
Please.. never speak again.
The title âoeFearâ was from a direct quote from Trump with regards how he motivates people. Your criticisms are fair as they are in fact for Trumpâ(TM)s conduct and approach to governance and management.
This ^. Watch heads explode and bodies contort to defend Dear Leader, his lies and his nepotism. "But she didn't work for the government when sending these government emails."
The First Lady is not appointed, or elected and receives no salary. Her office is not mandated.
Yet again, here's another place where Hillary should have been locked up because of her behavior when she was First Lady
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
That's racist! How dare you make such anti-semitic comments about rabbis...oh, rabbits? Sorry, I am so used to inflammatory rhetoric these days. My bad. Carry on.
What rock have you been hiding under that you do not know that she was married to Mr. Clinton?