Those speed testers are crap; people pay for a data rate to the other side of the ISP link. How on earth can an ISP promise you'll get at least your speed for the 20-odd hops it takes to get to the speed tester program on the website you visited? You're buying a chain that says it can pull 5000 pounds, but they only measured between the first link. Lo and behold, some of the other links are 2000, 1500, and 900. You're trying to pull 5000 pounds on the other end, just like you want your speed test across the country to post the same speed.
Indeed, add in the overhead for each layer and your data rate ends up being only a subset of what you paid for. Contents may settle during shipping. Ever opened a box of Cheerios and it was packed to the brim? Same idea.
Find me an ISP Acceptable Use Policy that doesn't say "We can turn you off whenever we feel like it for whatever reason" . . . ISPs toss those in the AUP and then just weed out the 0.1% of people that use the connection up.
I can't say that I blame them either. If you're using 20% of their trunks for 19.95 a month, and they pay 1000 times as much... do the math.
If I can get onto the same network as 10 of my buddies, chances are very high that they have stuff I want to steal.
There's no way you're going to lock down to layer 7 filtering (looking at the program data itself, very intensive to comute) at a layer 2 scope (your local IP subnet, or close enough). So you either block SMB ports (file sharing altogether, the lifeblood of a computer network with actual users), or pay $$$ to filter it, poorly.
Rumor has it that if I have my laptop at the library, and so do some other people, that we can magically create a network between us that has no juristiction by the University. Or maybe they *do*, but they have no idea about it.
Any way it gets sliced up, the dollars can't keep up with the ways to get around it.
The Mill sits on the Bellamy River... not too wide, maybe 40 feet. My last apartment was over it. During the spring the water would get high enough to clap up against the bottom and make my junk vibrate.
Anyways, yes the river powered the mill. There's two waterfalls running through it. It's really nice.
I wonder how that'd work up here
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Here in NH, our power company, PSNH.com, is overburden by its customer base. Lately they have been doing free energy audits to locate places people are losing money on heating and cooling. Both my residence, a 200 year old mill building, and my employer, a large interoperability lab, were audited by PSNH for heating and cooling, and in the case of the lab, other weird places we waste power. At my residence, they paid 80% of the replacement costs for new windows, in an effort to avoid new infrastructure. They simply can't afford to build anything new that generates power. And the overages that they have to supply all come from Canada, which costs them enough that it isn't worth it for them. So I would have to suspect that they would love it if people in their customer base were to install these, as it would just put their peak output down and give them some breathing room. I have to admit I don't know what it's like elsewhere in the world, but maybe some other people would share too.
I remember hearing about a police department in New Hamshipre that would not take applicants with above a 105 IQ, citing the high rate of burnout due to boredom
I am from New Hampshire and have heard the same thing as well (just to add another 0.00000001% of validity to your claim)
I used x10 to run a traffic light I bought off ebay. Sucked. Used it for about 120 seconds before I decided it wasnt going to seem cool to visitors. There were 2 options. The "lamp" modules have a 1/2 second or so latency before the command gets to them and they activate. The appliance one, on the other hand, is very "instant", but it makes a loud pop when it activates. So I could either have the world's most retarded looking traffic light, or POP POP POP every 20 seconds. Stupid.
It might run on copper but if it does it will probably be parallel.
You can run 10 gig ethernet over copper for a few inches. You can run it about 45 feet if you channelize it like they do with CX4. It's four lanes of copper, each 3 and 1/8 gigabits a second.
The next Ethernet is more likely going to be 40 gigabits. They will just take the 802.11ae Clause 49 PCS, which is a serialized 64 to 66 bit data stream, and multiply it by 4 to get 4 times the throughput. Google around for 40 gig ethernet and you will find a lot more than this 100 gig stuff. Yes it's a deviation from the norm, but that's the plan more people are on.
I personally find it fascinating that I can take 80 km of fiber and have all my packets going in come out the other end. But I can't name companies.. that is forbidden.:D
I can toss a tv dinner in a toaster oven on an X10 plug, ssh into my box and turn it on with the firecracker module, and save... whatever it costs minus 15 bucks.
Terminating those ends costs a lot more than the lines themselves. They don't just tie a string can onto the ends of a fiber -- a nice XENPAK transceiver to cap a 10 gigabit Ethernet connection is going to run 5 to 10 thousand bucks PER END. Not to mention you need a blade to toss it in that supports it. If someone feels like showing me how stupid I must be, please retort with a counter example.
Would you consider sharing, in at least a generic manner, how you accomplish your private 100 user network? It sounds very interesting. Is it VPN? How does the media present itself? SMB/CIF, others? It sounds very interesting and I would be grateful to hear more -- 100 users is a success story compared to what I have managed to work out. Star based VPN configurations just don't work that hot. Thanks
DLNA, the digital living network alliance, http://www.dlna.org/about is a group working on standards to make it streamlined for your TV to grab files off your windows server, linux server, mp3 player, et cetera. Basically makes all your devices share the media together. I know nothing about it other than the roughest overview, but if anyone else knows of it please comment.
We lament the loss of the camera that captures our memories to film, for these memories define our past, our sense of self and sense of friends and memories, and of better times. And as such feel like we are losing our past, these emotions captured into simple mylar strips. But surely it's more memories being recorded, distributed, shared with friends and family in remote locale, that should make us not rue the evolution of film to digital, but rather see that it's not the technique in which we store our faces, it's the breadth to which we may share them...
or try this instead, the opposite -- keep the lights bright and the contrast cranked. your eyes dont have to differentiate as hard. which gives you more eyestrain, being outside or in a cave? ok yes bruce wayne, we get your style, but for the rest of us that arent convinced we're ninjas like batman, the brighter answer might surprise some people.
I fake my domain info. I used to have my real info in it. I still get phone calls on my cell phone from people looking to help me improve my business. I draw the line at phone calls.. having my info is right up there with putting it on a bathroom stall.
I am in calc 1 and during recitation the kids in the front row, 2 of them, play a networked D&D game. So in the bottom 1/5 of my vision is a row with D&D and the top 4/5 is the TA. I'm paying 1400 bucks for this class and I have to live with a scrollbar at the bottom of reality running the Preview channel.
I should get a 280 dollar discount:)
It doesnt matter though. I get just as pissed off when the kid behind me sighs every 15 minutes and tells the girl next to him "how stupid it is" the way the professor is teaching the class, and how she's retarded cause he has a C even though he already knows this, and blah blah is she laughing yet cause he wants to get her AIM handle so he has a safe way to ask her out.
when people say "they dont realize this" i sometimes wonder, "don't they?" i realize i am going to get old and die off... there's not much to do about it but i keep on doing my thing anyways.
If someone gets sued for 2 million bucks that doesnt have 2 million bucks, what happens? Do they lose everything and declare bankrupcy? Do they keep losing what they earn until 2 million?
I'm 26. I'm not even an old gamer. Some of you guys in your mid 30s, I bow to your TRUE old school heritage. What about me? Why the hell can't Nintendo crank out a 2D side scroller of Mario World for the cube? There's TONS of people like me with CASH now, that would be 50 bucks for a Super Mario World 2. I spent 20 weeks winning that game. I bet they would write one quicker! For that matter, why arent there Flash versions of new games in the older styles? Copyright be damned, those things float freely and uncredited. Why haven't I seen it yet? Nintendo CEO Mr. Miyagi could crank Mario World 2 out on the john some morning instead of reading the wall street journal. ARgh so frustrating. I have cash to spend on a near zero development cost product and it DOESNT EXIST. SOMEONE LISTEN TO THE RANDOM SLASHDOT MASSES WITH ALL CASH AND NO DRIVE
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Those speed testers are crap; people pay for a data rate to the other side of the ISP link. How on earth can an ISP promise you'll get at least your speed for the 20-odd hops it takes to get to the speed tester program on the website you visited? You're buying a chain that says it can pull 5000 pounds, but they only measured between the first link. Lo and behold, some of the other links are 2000, 1500, and 900. You're trying to pull 5000 pounds on the other end, just like you want your speed test across the country to post the same speed.
Indeed, add in the overhead for each layer and your data rate ends up being only a subset of what you paid for. Contents may settle during shipping. Ever opened a box of Cheerios and it was packed to the brim? Same idea.
Find me an ISP Acceptable Use Policy that doesn't say "We can turn you off whenever we feel like it for whatever reason" . . . ISPs toss those in the AUP and then just weed out the 0.1% of people that use the connection up.
... do the math.
I can't say that I blame them either. If you're using 20% of their trunks for 19.95 a month, and they pay 1000 times as much
That won't work very well.
If I can get onto the same network as 10 of my buddies, chances are very high that they have stuff I want to steal.
There's no way you're going to lock down to layer 7 filtering (looking at the program data itself, very intensive to comute) at a layer 2 scope (your local IP subnet, or close enough). So you either block SMB ports (file sharing altogether, the lifeblood of a computer network with actual users), or pay $$$ to filter it, poorly.
Rumor has it that if I have my laptop at the library, and so do some other people, that we can magically create a network between us that has no juristiction by the University. Or maybe they *do*, but they have no idea about it.
Any way it gets sliced up, the dollars can't keep up with the ways to get around it.
The Mill sits on the Bellamy River... not too wide, maybe 40 feet. My last apartment was over it. During the spring the water would get high enough to clap up against the bottom and make my junk vibrate.
Anyways, yes the river powered the mill. There's two waterfalls running through it. It's really nice.
Here in NH, our power company, PSNH.com, is overburden by its customer base. Lately they have been doing free energy audits to locate places people are losing money on heating and cooling. Both my residence, a 200 year old mill building, and my employer, a large interoperability lab, were audited by PSNH for heating and cooling, and in the case of the lab, other weird places we waste power. At my residence, they paid 80% of the replacement costs for new windows, in an effort to avoid new infrastructure. They simply can't afford to build anything new that generates power. And the overages that they have to supply all come from Canada, which costs them enough that it isn't worth it for them. So I would have to suspect that they would love it if people in their customer base were to install these, as it would just put their peak output down and give them some breathing room. I have to admit I don't know what it's like elsewhere in the world, but maybe some other people would share too.
I remember hearing about a police department in New Hamshipre that would not take applicants with above a 105 IQ, citing the high rate of burnout due to boredom
I am from New Hampshire and have heard the same thing as well (just to add another 0.00000001% of validity to your claim)
postini costs about 40 cents a user, a month.
it's all negotiated though, in the end.
I used x10 to run a traffic light I bought off ebay. Sucked. Used it for about 120 seconds before I decided it wasnt going to seem cool to visitors. There were 2 options. The "lamp" modules have a 1/2 second or so latency before the command gets to them and they activate. The appliance one, on the other hand, is very "instant", but it makes a loud pop when it activates. So I could either have the world's most retarded looking traffic light, or POP POP POP every 20 seconds. Stupid.
It might run on copper but if it does it will probably be parallel.
:D
You can run 10 gig ethernet over copper for a few inches. You can run it about 45 feet if you channelize it like they do with CX4. It's four lanes of copper, each 3 and 1/8 gigabits a second.
The next Ethernet is more likely going to be 40 gigabits. They will just take the 802.11ae Clause 49 PCS, which is a serialized 64 to 66 bit data stream, and multiply it by 4 to get 4 times the throughput. Google around for 40 gig ethernet and you will find a lot more than this 100 gig stuff. Yes it's a deviation from the norm, but that's the plan more people are on.
I personally find it fascinating that I can take 80 km of fiber and have all my packets going in come out the other end. But I can't name companies.. that is forbidden.
Does the server farm being pimped in your sig run on wind too? :)
http://skittlesama.digitalsushi.com/Downloads/Digi talsushi%20-%201337.mp3
Might get slow (just on a cable modem) If it gets too slow I'll probably have to turn it off.
i think a lot of food doesnt go bad sitting out. i'll eat stuff that's been out for 6 hours if it's not all crusty.
I can toss a tv dinner in a toaster oven on an X10 plug, ssh into my box and turn it on with the firecracker module, and save... whatever it costs minus 15 bucks.
Terminating those ends costs a lot more than the lines themselves. They don't just tie a string can onto the ends of a fiber -- a nice XENPAK transceiver to cap a 10 gigabit Ethernet connection is going to run 5 to 10 thousand bucks PER END. Not to mention you need a blade to toss it in that supports it. If someone feels like showing me how stupid I must be, please retort with a counter example.
Would you consider sharing, in at least a generic manner, how you accomplish your private 100 user network? It sounds very interesting. Is it VPN? How does the media present itself? SMB/CIF, others? It sounds very interesting and I would be grateful to hear more -- 100 users is a success story compared to what I have managed to work out. Star based VPN configurations just don't work that hot. Thanks
DLNA, the digital living network alliance, http://www.dlna.org/about is a group working on standards to make it streamlined for your TV to grab files off your windows server, linux server, mp3 player, et cetera. Basically makes all your devices share the media together. I know nothing about it other than the roughest overview, but if anyone else knows of it please comment.
We lament the loss of the camera that captures our memories to film, for these memories define our past, our sense of self and sense of friends and memories, and of better times. And as such feel like we are losing our past, these emotions captured into simple mylar strips. But surely it's more memories being recorded, distributed, shared with friends and family in remote locale, that should make us not rue the evolution of film to digital, but rather see that it's not the technique in which we store our faces, it's the breadth to which we may share them...
or try this instead, the opposite -- keep the lights bright and the contrast cranked. your eyes dont have to differentiate as hard. which gives you more eyestrain, being outside or in a cave? ok yes bruce wayne, we get your style, but for the rest of us that arent convinced we're ninjas like batman, the brighter answer might surprise some people.
Are we supposed to send him a gift scanner? Clothes? Food? Matches for starting fires? :D
Gamers Better at Driving w/ Cell Phones?
"Those are lab studies, however, and not driving tests."
Wow.
I fake my domain info. I used to have my real info in it. I still get phone calls on my cell phone from people looking to help me improve my business. I draw the line at phone calls.. having my info is right up there with putting it on a bathroom stall.
I am in calc 1 and during recitation the kids in the front row, 2 of them, play a networked D&D game. So in the bottom 1/5 of my vision is a row with D&D and the top 4/5 is the TA. I'm paying 1400 bucks for this class and I have to live with a scrollbar at the bottom of reality running the Preview channel.
:)
:D
I should get a 280 dollar discount
It doesnt matter though. I get just as pissed off when the kid behind me sighs every 15 minutes and tells the girl next to him "how stupid it is" the way the professor is teaching the class, and how she's retarded cause he has a C even though he already knows this, and blah blah is she laughing yet cause he wants to get her AIM handle so he has a safe way to ask her out.
Going to college when you're old is awesome.
when people say "they dont realize this" i sometimes wonder, "don't they?" i realize i am going to get old and die off... there's not much to do about it but i keep on doing my thing anyways.
If someone gets sued for 2 million bucks that doesnt have 2 million bucks, what happens? Do they lose everything and declare bankrupcy? Do they keep losing what they earn until 2 million?
I'm 26. I'm not even an old gamer. Some of you guys in your mid 30s, I bow to your TRUE old school heritage. What about me? Why the hell can't Nintendo crank out a 2D side scroller of Mario World for the cube? There's TONS of people like me with CASH now, that would be 50 bucks for a Super Mario World 2. I spent 20 weeks winning that game. I bet they would write one quicker! For that matter, why arent there Flash versions of new games in the older styles? Copyright be damned, those things float freely and uncredited. Why haven't I seen it yet? Nintendo CEO Mr. Miyagi could crank Mario World 2 out on the john some morning instead of reading the wall street journal. ARgh so frustrating. I have cash to spend on a near zero development cost product and it DOESNT EXIST. SOMEONE LISTEN TO THE RANDOM SLASHDOT MASSES WITH ALL CASH AND NO DRIVE