The moment even one accident does occur, no matter how mild the consequences or much more unlikely the circumstances compared to a human driver, hordes upon hordes of American luddites will man the lines to do their civic duty to shit upon the idea of cars that drive themselves.
Mind you, this is being said by an American who owns a US made car.
Valid question. I was going for the WW2 slang definition of 'jerry', implying that the rigging was of a sort that a very nationalistic German fellow of the time might have engaged in.
"Duck-taped solutions" is a pretty solid term. I may use that in the future, if only because it's more work-safe that my previous favorite, the "profoundly whimsical clusterfuck".
If NASA faked the Mars landing, they would have had fake scary Martians burn an American flag and diss Dale Earnheardt on the camera before they attacked and destroyed Curiousity. At least then they'd be able to justify getting some of their budget back from defence.
I'm not usually the guy to post the "bitch about Slashdot" troll post, but seriously guys: It's not necessary to post something everytime someone from APPL, MSFT, or GOOG wipes their ass.
"Oh noes. Default app got removed, now I either have to download the new one or use a web browser! Slashdot story, ACTIVATE!"
And I guess that raises an interesting point. I've seen people who are, like myself, adamantly against it, and I've seen people who appear to simply not care. I've never talked to real human beings (which, really, neither of us might even be) who actually WANT fullscale government tracking and think it is an amazing thing. If this isn't representative of the overall will of the people, why is it 'good'?
Off topic, reflecting upon myself, I find that the first time I really started noticing or caring about privacy in an electronic format was when I was probably about 14, maybe 15 years old. My dad picked up a CueCat, which was a pretty revolutionary piece of consumer hardware at the time, if not a little gimmicky. He had it apart and was cutting into solder joints in it. I asked him what he was doing, and he said that he was preventing it from being able to send out the serial number, so it's use couldn't be tracked. I asked why, and he told me it was because he didn't want to be tracked. I said "Who cares?" He then asked me if I would like it much if they (my parents) watched my every move. I, of course, said that I wouldn't like that. He asked if I was doing things that they wouldn't like. I, of course, said no. I didn't feel like I needed to be watched constantly because I wasn't a little child.
I was suggesting trolling because you were suggesting that people were motivated for the desire for privacy because they are doing 'bad' things, in paricular when you questioned what they were doing such that it required so much privacy. I'd consider that inflammatory. I do not like being accused of 'bad' things. I do not think that I do 'bad' things; I simply do not want to be continually tracked because I don't want to be pulled over by an officer because some computer algorithm detected that I circled the block three times looking for an address when google maps is wrong. There are advances into 'precrime' that have been mentioned on slashdot even within the last couple days that could tie into this constant surveillance that I find distrubing. I do not want to be harassed by officers and suffer an investigation for 'facecrime'. I want to be left alone.
In my hypothetical situation, while smoking isn't illegal, the fact that you used to be a smoker as recorded shows that you might still be doing it. If I were an overbearing government agent, I might want to persue that, or do you not think your previous history would honestly be considered though it wasn't illegal at the time? Maybe not while you're at home, but perhaps if you get stopped during a routine traffic stop. I've heard of 'probable cause' requiring less justification than that.
As far as the logistical difficulty of staying hidden, I fully understand. It's all part of the underlying problem though: Just because something CAN be tracked doesn't mean it SHOULD.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just paranoid. On the other hand, maybe that's not so completely unhealthy after all.
Okay, here's the deal, and I assume you SHOULD 'get it' by now, so you're probably just trolling, but I will indulge you.
There's new laws being passed, constantly. Seldom to old laws actually get repealed. Following this out to its logical end, more things become illegal, suppressed, or controlled than they were previously. Suppose that something that you did a week ago suddenly became illegal. Take smoking cigarettes, for example. Say you're a good little obedient Citizen, and you've stopped smoking. Oho, but the Government knows you WERE smoking previously. They also know it's hard to kick the habit. Now they're investigating you, assuming that you've been finding some way to circumvent the constant monitoring, because after all, there'll always be criminals, right?
Is it RIGHT for the goverment to be able to do that? I mean, I know you like your Facebook and enjoy Amazon sifting through your search results and now that's got you thinking that it's cool the government does it, but it's really not. I can not use Facebook and Amazon. I can't not use the government.
Please, show some manners. We're trying to have a partisian shitfest here and here you are, attempting to bring reason into the mix. Clearly, favoring Rush and Drudge enables people to magically become more resistant to heat. THAT'S the logical answer.
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The moment even one accident does occur, no matter how mild the consequences or much more unlikely the circumstances compared to a human driver, hordes upon hordes of American luddites will man the lines to do their civic duty to shit upon the idea of cars that drive themselves.
Mind you, this is being said by an American who owns a US made car.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_Girl_(film)
I also believe I might have Godwinned the thread.
Valid question. I was going for the WW2 slang definition of 'jerry', implying that the rigging was of a sort that a very nationalistic German fellow of the time might have engaged in. "Duck-taped solutions" is a pretty solid term. I may use that in the future, if only because it's more work-safe that my previous favorite, the "profoundly whimsical clusterfuck".
No kidding, that stuff fucks me up worse than White Castle.
Maybe it was done by Nazis?
Then why do they pay so very much for the rest of it?
I was mostly being ironic with the slow news day comment, but this is kind of a non-story in the scheme of things.
Shut up Luddite.
If NASA faked the Mars landing, they would have had fake scary Martians burn an American flag and diss Dale Earnheardt on the camera before they attacked and destroyed Curiousity. At least then they'd be able to justify getting some of their budget back from defence.
I'm not usually the guy to post the "bitch about Slashdot" troll post, but seriously guys: It's not necessary to post something everytime someone from APPL, MSFT, or GOOG wipes their ass.
"Oh noes. Default app got removed, now I either have to download the new one or use a web browser! Slashdot story, ACTIVATE!"
Interesting. I'll have to check the links when I'm off work.
If your shit's not safe in the Ukraine, it's not safe anywhere.
And inadvertantly destroy every business model based around IP? They couldn't do it soon enough.
Timecube guy, is that you???
Fuck, I'd be thrilled if people would figure out "they're", "their", and "there".
No, Haiku is 5-7-5. Like this.
Want to go to Mars
But no cash to spend on gas
Want road head China?
Yeah... sorry, I was being a little disingenuous.
To be fair, I actually had to look it up the first time I read the Golden Girls troll, but then again, I think that's what makes it so effective.
The warm glow of consumerism will shield him from ATT/Sprint.
Still surprised they got away with that away with 'cosmonaut' in the lyrics during the cold war.
And I guess that raises an interesting point. I've seen people who are, like myself, adamantly against it, and I've seen people who appear to simply not care. I've never talked to real human beings (which, really, neither of us might even be) who actually WANT fullscale government tracking and think it is an amazing thing. If this isn't representative of the overall will of the people, why is it 'good'?
Off topic, reflecting upon myself, I find that the first time I really started noticing or caring about privacy in an electronic format was when I was probably about 14, maybe 15 years old. My dad picked up a CueCat, which was a pretty revolutionary piece of consumer hardware at the time, if not a little gimmicky. He had it apart and was cutting into solder joints in it. I asked him what he was doing, and he said that he was preventing it from being able to send out the serial number, so it's use couldn't be tracked. I asked why, and he told me it was because he didn't want to be tracked. I said "Who cares?" He then asked me if I would like it much if they (my parents) watched my every move. I, of course, said that I wouldn't like that. He asked if I was doing things that they wouldn't like. I, of course, said no. I didn't feel like I needed to be watched constantly because I wasn't a little child.
I was suggesting trolling because you were suggesting that people were motivated for the desire for privacy because they are doing 'bad' things, in paricular when you questioned what they were doing such that it required so much privacy. I'd consider that inflammatory. I do not like being accused of 'bad' things. I do not think that I do 'bad' things; I simply do not want to be continually tracked because I don't want to be pulled over by an officer because some computer algorithm detected that I circled the block three times looking for an address when google maps is wrong. There are advances into 'precrime' that have been mentioned on slashdot even within the last couple days that could tie into this constant surveillance that I find distrubing. I do not want to be harassed by officers and suffer an investigation for 'facecrime'. I want to be left alone.
In my hypothetical situation, while smoking isn't illegal, the fact that you used to be a smoker as recorded shows that you might still be doing it. If I were an overbearing government agent, I might want to persue that, or do you not think your previous history would honestly be considered though it wasn't illegal at the time? Maybe not while you're at home, but perhaps if you get stopped during a routine traffic stop. I've heard of 'probable cause' requiring less justification than that.
As far as the logistical difficulty of staying hidden, I fully understand. It's all part of the underlying problem though: Just because something CAN be tracked doesn't mean it SHOULD.
I don't know. Maybe I'm just paranoid. On the other hand, maybe that's not so completely unhealthy after all.
Okay, here's the deal, and I assume you SHOULD 'get it' by now, so you're probably just trolling, but I will indulge you.
There's new laws being passed, constantly. Seldom to old laws actually get repealed. Following this out to its logical end, more things become illegal, suppressed, or controlled than they were previously. Suppose that something that you did a week ago suddenly became illegal. Take smoking cigarettes, for example. Say you're a good little obedient Citizen, and you've stopped smoking. Oho, but the Government knows you WERE smoking previously. They also know it's hard to kick the habit. Now they're investigating you, assuming that you've been finding some way to circumvent the constant monitoring, because after all, there'll always be criminals, right?
Is it RIGHT for the goverment to be able to do that? I mean, I know you like your Facebook and enjoy Amazon sifting through your search results and now that's got you thinking that it's cool the government does it, but it's really not. I can not use Facebook and Amazon. I can't not use the government.
Tell me who to vote for then.
Please, show some manners. We're trying to have a partisian shitfest here and here you are, attempting to bring reason into the mix. Clearly, favoring Rush and Drudge enables people to magically become more resistant to heat. THAT'S the logical answer.