Some people just don't get the fact that some information HAS to be kept private until such a time that it can be discussed
without endangering the lives of people in the field.
Oh, come on. When are you people going to realize that security through obscurity doesn't work?
Well, sure they send out half the email - no email viruses, right?:)
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Right back at you, buddy - my entire family understands that a person is not a person without certain inalienable rights. And liberty is right up there with life. If you want the one without the other, feel free to move to China any day now.
I think the big problem may be that the U.S. has pissed off so many different groups of terrorists that it's tough to keep good intelligence available on all of them. It was much easier to track one Soviet Union that it is to track umpteen zillion terrorist cells and/or anti-American elements that range about the Middle and Far East, Africa, and South America.
I think there have been some situations where the U.S. has made enemies instead of friends; and I think we're going to find out that the rest of the world is not as ready to forgive and forget as the U.S. has been in similar circumstances. It's easy to let bygones be bygones when the goal is to keep the economy on track; when you're more concerned about freedom and/or civil rights for your people, you're a lot less likely to be willing to make up with your past adversaries.
Wait a minute - there were 12 years of deficit military spending under Reagan/Bush at the end of the Cold War, yet somehow it's all Jimmy Carter's fault? For the money that they spent, you could have rebuilt any putative Carter fall-off in intelligence capabilities many times over. Not to mention the question of whether Cold War-style intelligence operations are even applicable to the new rogue-states-and-terrorism foreign policy.
I think the jury's still out on the Clinton administration's foreign policy - years of perspective are usually needed before we can really understand the present or the recent past. I will point out that the Israelis and Palestinians seemed a lot happier to negotiate when Clinton was running the show, so much so that the fact that they were not able to reach a final agreement before he left office was widely seen as dooming the negotiations by all parties.
The munitions dump is burning because of helicopter rocket attacks by the Northern Alliance. They're basically all that remains of Afghanistan's pre-Taliban government. Maybe they assumed that the U.S. was about to kick some ass in Afghanistan and wanted to ride on those coattails?
Maybe it's time for another book, culled from your comments:)
But seriously, it was a pretty good piece. He mostly quit when he was ahead, but in this case he should have either ditched the technology tie-in, or else made a better connection. I don't think anybody's up to thinking about tech news too much today...
When colombian drug dealers killed DEA agent, Kiki Camarena, the DEA broke down every suspected drug dealer's door with or without evidence of any crimes. The DEA fucked them up really good.
...I think we should consider the movie "The Siege" with Denzel Washington. In the movie, following three or four terrorist attacks the city of New York was brought to a standstill. They declared Marshall Law. This was the
effect on one city.
You must not have seen the rest of the movie [spoiler alert] - the whole point of it was that if you kick in doors everywhere, if you give up on the rule of law just because some degenerates refuse to live within it, if you allow some nut cases to goad you into creating the very environment of reprisal that they thrive on, you've given your enemy exactly what they want. The moral of The Siege was that even in times of crisis, tarring the innocent with the same brush as the guilty is the wrong thing to do, no matter how inspired towards ass-kicking we may be right now. Of course you leave potential terrorists living in fear, but at the expense of leaving everyone living in fear as well. In the long run, a civil society cannot continue along that path.
I think the jury's still out on the intelligence angle, although the three-letter-agencies will have you believe otherwise. For all we know, what was lacking to prevent this tragedy was not Carnivore interdiction, but just a little more attention on the part of an airline gate agent in Boston or Newark. I would think that any terrorists capable of planning this action would be smart enough to not use any public or semi-public communications medium which might have a chance of being tapped. Don't believe anything you hear on this topic for the next couple of weeks, until we can really begin to get to the bottom of it.
Yes, we need to change some things and prevent the reoccurrence of this kind of attack. But equally importantly we need to not allow terrorism to transform society into a warped vision of the very groups that hate us, just because of our fear and uncertainty. Democracy can triumph over terror, if only its own citizens give it the chance.
OK, maybe "very difficult" would be more accurate. I'm just pointing out that making it difficult to change the license away from GPL is a feature, not a bug:)
It's not a big mess, it just becomes impossible for any one developer, or even a cabal thereof, to change the license of the project. In some cases this is an advantage, since the project becomes more associated with a widespread development community and less likely to fail if one key developer "goes bad" (for various values of "goes bad").
Lego would have more important things to sue Mattel over, methinks. For example, what if a company built blocks that had the same nub spacing on top, so that they seamlessly fit together with Lego blocks? Wouldn't that be more of a threat? If you had the dimensions of the blocks, and knew approximately what plastic formula to use, you could flood the market with cheap blocks and undercut Lego themselves. I think someone duplicating the Lego "hardware" product is a lot more dangerous than someone duplicating the Lego software/OS itself.
Come to think of it, I've never seen any blocks that were piece-compatible with Lego. I've seen some obvious imitations, but for whatever reason they never would quite fit together with the real thing. You would think that someone would have already gotten into this market; maybe by producing more of those joints, hinges, and other bits you can never have enough of. Or maybe Lego's legal team has already been active...
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Maybe I'm confused, but I always thought "Hey Man, Nice Shot" was a homage to Kurt Cobain. What politician is it supposed to be about?
Wow, I couldn't have said it better myself. While we're at it, let's send some of that carpet-bombing out here in the Midwest, shall we?
Oh, come on. When are you people going to realize that security through obscurity doesn't work?
:)
Yes, if it's funny and you didn't think of it first, it must be a troll. Q.E.D.
That's all at the tail-end of the article.
Well, sure they send out half the email - no email viruses, right? :)
Right back at you, buddy - my entire family understands that a person is not a person without certain inalienable rights. And liberty is right up there with life. If you want the one without the other, feel free to move to China any day now.
It can't be that interesting - it requires Flash :(
USA Today used to be "News for People Who Don't Like To Read". Now it's apparently "News for People who Don't Like Non-Singing, Non-Dancing Pictures".
It involves the Internet because it's an urban legend that's spread via the 'net?
I think he said "You had zeroes? We had to use the letter 'O'."
No, it should be "Taliban.com". I guess I can't complain if Russian hackers can't spell any better than /. editors, though :)
I think the big problem may be that the U.S. has pissed off so many different groups of terrorists that it's tough to keep good intelligence available on all of them. It was much easier to track one Soviet Union that it is to track umpteen zillion terrorist cells and/or anti-American elements that range about the Middle and Far East, Africa, and South America.
I think there have been some situations where the U.S. has made enemies instead of friends; and I think we're going to find out that the rest of the world is not as ready to forgive and forget as the U.S. has been in similar circumstances. It's easy to let bygones be bygones when the goal is to keep the economy on track; when you're more concerned about freedom and/or civil rights for your people, you're a lot less likely to be willing to make up with your past adversaries.
Wait a minute - there were 12 years of deficit military spending under Reagan/Bush at the end of the Cold War, yet somehow it's all Jimmy Carter's fault? For the money that they spent, you could have rebuilt any putative Carter fall-off in intelligence capabilities many times over. Not to mention the question of whether Cold War-style intelligence operations are even applicable to the new rogue-states-and-terrorism foreign policy.
I think the jury's still out on the Clinton administration's foreign policy - years of perspective are usually needed before we can really understand the present or the recent past. I will point out that the Israelis and Palestinians seemed a lot happier to negotiate when Clinton was running the show, so much so that the fact that they were not able to reach a final agreement before he left office was widely seen as dooming the negotiations by all parties.
My $.02, anyway.
The munitions dump is burning because of helicopter rocket attacks by the Northern Alliance. They're basically all that remains of Afghanistan's pre-Taliban government. Maybe they assumed that the U.S. was about to kick some ass in Afghanistan and wanted to ride on those coattails?
You're absolutely correct (in fact, I've already corrected someone on that score today :). I didn't say "marshal law".
Maybe it's time for another book, culled from your comments :)
But seriously, it was a pretty good piece. He mostly quit when he was ahead, but in this case he should have either ditched the technology tie-in, or else made a better connection. I don't think anybody's up to thinking about tech news too much today...
You must not have seen the rest of the movie [spoiler alert] - the whole point of it was that if you kick in doors everywhere, if you give up on the rule of law just because some degenerates refuse to live within it, if you allow some nut cases to goad you into creating the very environment of reprisal that they thrive on, you've given your enemy exactly what they want. The moral of The Siege was that even in times of crisis, tarring the innocent with the same brush as the guilty is the wrong thing to do, no matter how inspired towards ass-kicking we may be right now. Of course you leave potential terrorists living in fear, but at the expense of leaving everyone living in fear as well. In the long run, a civil society cannot continue along that path.
I think the jury's still out on the intelligence angle, although the three-letter-agencies will have you believe otherwise. For all we know, what was lacking to prevent this tragedy was not Carnivore interdiction, but just a little more attention on the part of an airline gate agent in Boston or Newark. I would think that any terrorists capable of planning this action would be smart enough to not use any public or semi-public communications medium which might have a chance of being tapped. Don't believe anything you hear on this topic for the next couple of weeks, until we can really begin to get to the bottom of it.
Yes, we need to change some things and prevent the reoccurrence of this kind of attack. But equally importantly we need to not allow terrorism to transform society into a warped vision of the very groups that hate us, just because of our fear and uncertainty. Democracy can triumph over terror, if only its own citizens give it the chance.
They've declared that the U.S. will send them millions of dollars of economic aid? That would be strange...
Oh, martial law. Never mind.
Yeah, but we're still only a heartbeat or two away from Bush becoming President :)
OK, maybe "very difficult" would be more accurate. I'm just pointing out that making it difficult to change the license away from GPL is a feature, not a bug :)
It's not a big mess, it just becomes impossible for any one developer, or even a cabal thereof, to change the license of the project. In some cases this is an advantage, since the project becomes more associated with a widespread development community and less likely to fail if one key developer "goes bad" (for various values of "goes bad").
Actually, most people in the last Presidential election voted for the guy who wasn't elected. But I see your broader point.
Lego would have more important things to sue Mattel over, methinks. For example, what if a company built blocks that had the same nub spacing on top, so that they seamlessly fit together with Lego blocks? Wouldn't that be more of a threat? If you had the dimensions of the blocks, and knew approximately what plastic formula to use, you could flood the market with cheap blocks and undercut Lego themselves. I think someone duplicating the Lego "hardware" product is a lot more dangerous than someone duplicating the Lego software/OS itself.
Come to think of it, I've never seen any blocks that were piece-compatible with Lego. I've seen some obvious imitations, but for whatever reason they never would quite fit together with the real thing. You would think that someone would have already gotten into this market; maybe by producing more of those joints, hinges, and other bits you can never have enough of. Or maybe Lego's legal team has already been active...
Personal Copyright Enhancement is doubleplusgood :)
Well, if you really want to make a point of it you could always return the CD, you know. Bonus points if you don't keep the copy either :)