Photons? For a RADIO telescope?? Yes, quite a while since your astro classes.
Ummm... ALL electromagnetic radiation propagates as photons, not just visible light. What we call light is just a specific range of wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation. In essence it is no different than radio waves, microwaves, X-rays, gamma rays etc.
A lot of the copying of commercial software is done by people who can't afford it. You'll get students that want to play with 3DSMax or something but can't really swing the $3,500 asking price so they'll download it. That is NOT a lost sale, if it was impossible to copy, they'd simply do without because they haven't the money.
I'm not saying that copying doesn't result in some lost revenue. I'm quite sure that there are sales that would be made if copying was impossible, but aren't because it is. However it is not 100% of copied software, not even close.
Not only is that not a lost sale, that is extremely good marketing that they're getting for free. People who get to know and like software that they pirate will probably buy that software when they can afford to or when they start using that software for business.
I still buy and use development tools that I got to know from pirating them while I was a student. Another example: As a kid I played pirated games and only pirated games. My parents would not buy them and I couldn't afford them. That made me a lifelong gamer and in the years since I started working I've spent thousands of dollars on games, consoles, etc.
This is about aesthetics though, not functionality.
The fact one can have patents on aesthetics just shows you how broken the system really is
I'm happy your phone does all that stuff that I've never needed on my iPhone
You've never had the need to browse to a website that requires Flash? You've never wanted to have a bit more storage space? You've never forgotten or lost your USB cable? You've never wanted to copy music from your iPhone?
I don't recall ever paying anything for XCode
Well I guess you won't be upgrading to version 4, which is not free.
I own a Samsung Galaxy S and it's NOTHING like an iPhone 1. It has expandable storage via microSD 2. Its battery is replaceable 3. It it can connect to any computer through a standard (and cheap) micro USB cable 4. I can copy music to AND FROM my phone with any software that supports USB storage or MTP 5. When I switched it on for the first time I didn't need a computer or special software and I wasn't forced to sign up for an iTunes store account 6. Within 5 minutes my phone had all my gmail, Facebook and twitter contacts on it, again without needing a computer 7. I can copy and paste just about everywhere 8. It runs Flash 9. Out of the box it supports tethering via USB or Bluetooth and it can even act like a Wi-Fi hotspot 10. I can decide what software I run on it rather than having a dictator with arbitrary rules telling me what I'm allowed to do 11. I can (and did) download SDK's and development tools for free to write my own software for it 12. It can send an receive MMS's (like every phone I've had for the last 6+ years)
... We used to make a lot of money. Now we're not and don't know how to deal with things. It's XXX's fault.
Industries that became technologically obsolete have been making this same argument for years..
Here's the comment I left on the article:
Record companies have exploited a technological and legal window to make insane amounts of money from other people's creativity. Consumers and the majority of artists suffered because of this.
A few big artists (the U2's of the world) got to live like kings, but the majority of artists ended up being slaves to media conglomerates.
The technological window is closing rapidly. Recording, distribution and marketing once required resources that could only be supplied by big companies. In those times record companies contributed something.
Those barriers no longer exist, but the old music industry refuse to accept that they have no more use. They're trying to hold on to their old monopoly by lobbying for ridiculously draconian copyright laws e.g. the RIAA's $75 trillion lawsuit against Limewire.
Like many industries before them (e.g. sawyers after the invention of the saw mill) they'll be kept alive by government action, but ultimately they'll go extinct like the dinosaurs they are.
I've been following the bid process for SKA for quite a few years. As far as I can tell South Africa (together with its other Southern African partners) have a clear advantage over Australia (now together with NZ)
There are a few reasons for this:
1. The passing of the South Africa's Astronomy Geographic Advantage Act in 2007 declares almost the whole of the Northern Cape province (an area about 1.5 times that of the UK) into an astronomy advantage area. Amongst other things it means that light pollution will be limited and that the whole area will eventually be turned into a radio quiet zone.
2. Much of the technology used in South Africa's pilot program (MeerKAT) will be directly useable in SKA. By comparison, the Australian Square Kilometre Array Pathfinder project has much less tech that will be useable in SKA without major redesign and modification.
3. Price. From the start keeping the price down was a very high priority goal for the SA bid. E.g. they developed a new process to manufacture the dishes that is much cheaper than conventional methods. Now, after the credit crunch where many scientific budgets are getting cut, this strategy is paying off.
Disclaimer 1: I am a South African and therefore far from neutral Disclaimer 2: The last time I read extensively on this is more than six months ago, so if there were significant developments recently then I might not be aware of them
From where I stand it seems that the DS is so insanely popular (almost 110 million units sold to date) exactly because its games are so easy to pirate, not in spite of it.
Its not like the games aren't selling either - close to 450 million DS games sold so far
Just ran out of mod points, so I'll rather add this:
Somewhere the public perception of copyright (and other IP rights) went from "a time limited incentive to encourage the creation of novel content" to "content creators have the right to get paid in perpetuity".
Because of the technological and legal environment of the 20th century it was possible for content creators and distributors to make insane amounts of money for a very limited amount of work.
That created the idea that they have some god-given right to get paid for absolutely everything that ever gets done with their content or anything that is derived from it. That has not been the case for most of history and it will almost certainly not be the case in the future... and no that will not mean the end of music and art.
When looking at where else all those unlicensed users would go if they didn't become legal Windows users, Apple doesn't really come into it much.
Well put. This actually happened to me recently.
My home PC had a volume licensed version of XP on it that I got from the company I worked for a few years back. Suddenly, about a month ago, my Windows Genuine Advantage started failing and my PC started nagging me about it the whole time.
I have used Linux a lot in the past but I've never had it installed as the main OS on my primary PC.
This incident was the last bit of motivation that I needed to switch to Linux. I have now been running Kubuntu 8.10 for two weeks and I love it. I can't think of any reason to switch back.
OK, let's raise a few points (full of simplifications, but I hope you get the gist of it):
Art is as old as humanity itself and the creation of art has been something that most people would engage in. Much later the idea of a professional artist came about. Over time the trend has been more and more to have to classes of people - the artists who produce art and the common folk who consume it.
Rich patrons paid for the creation of art by professional artists, but they were not the only consumers. Common folk could go to theatres or live music performances.
Art was democratised by technology, not by copyright laws. Copyright was created to place limits on what could be done to make sure that artists will benefit (for a limited period) from the work they created before it became part of the public domain.
For the largest part of the 20th century the technology was as such a stage that you needed large amount of resources to mass produce copies of art. This gave large corporations the same kind of monopoly on the creation of art that rich patrons had in an earlier era. They profited hugely from the state of technology and from copyright laws that were originally intended to foster innovation, protect individual artists and benefit society as a whole.
There are many problems with the way big corporations abuse copyright, but one of the worst is the way that they keep on pushing for copyright extension. They want to take from society and give nothing back. Take Disney for example. If you go through their products you will find hundreds examples of them profiting from the public domain (Snow White, Cinderella, the Three Little Pigs, Treasure Island.. you can fill pages with this). Yet they will do everything in their power to make copyrights perpetual. Mickey Mouse is now more than a hundred years old and yet they still retain exclusive rights. It does not benefit the original artists and it stifles innovation - the exact opposite of what copyright law was intended to do. If you have a child in kindergarten, they can't put up a play with Disney characters in them without infringing on their copyright.
In the mean time technology has progressed to a point where the stranglehold that large media conglomerates have on art are no longer the natural state of affairs, but they will fight tooth and claw to keep their racket going.
Technology has moved on, but our laws are still largely from the 18th century except that they have over time been skewed in favour of corporation and against the rights of artists and society as a whole.
Yes! It's only a matter of time until Slashdot's heroes, the Pirate Bay operators, get away with this. It's our right as human beings to rip off artists and not pay them, and it's totally awesome for Pirate Bay to run a torrent tracker that connects users so that they can distribute file chunks to each other.
FUCK artists, and FUCK their rights. They are our slaves. We don't owe them a dime for their work. Long live, Pirate Bay, and enjoy the victory, guys!
Yes of course - art only came into existence when copyright was invented in the 1700's and it will instantly disappear once copyright is gone. People like you act as if copyright is some divine right that was handed down from the hand of God himself.
Your view of the situation is extremely simplistic. The main problem is that current copyright laws mostly protect the profits of big corporations, they don't benefit artists and they discourage rather than encourage innovation.
The current laws are outdated and they don't work, but there are many companies willing to spend millions to maintain the status quo. Copyright laws must be completely rewritten so that they accomplish what they were intended to do in the first place: help society as a whole by encouraging innovation by ensuring that artists get their due.
I have experienced the highest level of responsiveness from an OS with BeOS - this is still unsurpassed.
I totally agree. This is what I liked most about BeOS. I find it amazing that with a super fast modern CPU and 4GB RAM I am still able to render my PC unresponsive for a few seconds - in both Windows and Linux!
That NEVER happened with BeOS, even on very poor hardware.
Man I would love to see what a Be-like OS can do on modern hardware.
In general I agree with your post. IMO the biggest problem was that 3rd party developers were caught napping. No-one expected the Wii's runaway success. Things are slowly changing though. There are more and more innovative, quality games coming out that were written from the ground up with the Wii's control's in mind rather than crappy ports that are basically PS2 versions of the game with motion control gimmicks added.
The days of the Wii being just for casual games and Nintendo staples like Mario and Zelda are coming to an end. One example of an upcoming Wii game that is both innovative, stylish and that is definitely not "just for kids" is MadWorld. Definitely not the kind of thing you would historcally associate with a Nintendo platform.
However, like you I'm still waiting for quality RPG on the Wii. I also think you would be able to make good RTS's (a genre that consoles have really been lacking in) using the Wiimote
In a time when we are bailing out our greatest financial institutions with $700 billion just to get them to give out mortgages to millions of low-paid workers again, is this really the time to be investing in "science" and "technology"?
Short answer: Yes Long answer:
The LHC, which is the most expensive science experiment ever cost about $10 billion. I.e. a drop in the bucket compared to things like the proposed bailout or the Iraq war.
On the long term science and tech have consequences that can benefit the whole human race. Apart from the main and direct benefits there are also often other unforeseen benefits that you get for free. E.g. The World Wide Web that you are using right now was developed as a side project CERN.
To butcher an old saying: The NYSE bailout is the equivalent of giving someone enough food to survive another day. Money invested in science and technology might teach you how to fish, farm, build, cure... hell, just about every single thing that keeps you alive on a day to day basis.
This just adds a bit of legitimacy to their cause. Now they can rightfully claim that they are being persecuted and censored. This is the same as what happens in parts of Europe where all things related to Nazis and Hilter are banned.
It just drives it underground and gives it more street cred. If these things are out in the open it is a lot easier to keep tabs on and to criticize it which in turn makes it more likely that people will see it for the bullshit it really is.
What ever the problem, censorship is almost never the answer.
With due respect to the authors of this official report and their three years of computer simulations, I do not believe for one moment that thermal expansion from the burning of paper, desks and plastic fittings (even over a period of many hours) is sufficient to explain this. I also do not think it can explain molten steel in the wreckage weeks after the event.
Translation: My common sense is more reliable than all that engineering, science, maths and computer simulations.
You should start working as a holistic civil engineer. I'm sure companies will be thrilled at all the money they could save by not doing any actual engineering and simply letting you intuit the correct answers.
I'll start eating grass as soon as I've installed my four stomachs. You've got a point if animals are fed foodstuffs that can also be fed to humans, but that is not at all universally the case.
Here in South Africa a lot of our meat is produced in the Karoo. Sheep feed on the natural vegetation and as long as you guard against overgrazing it is 100% sustainable and has very little impact on the environment.
Compare that with trying to grow crops there and the erosion, habitat destruction etc. that goes with that.
One last point: Yes the energy in the methane farts are lost forever, but that is just a fraction of the waste produced by cattle. Most of it takes the form of manure which (surprise, surprise) gets used to fertilize the crops that then again get fed to animals and people.
We didn't find any results for "cuil pronunciation"
When you search for the same thing on google the first two hits both have the required information. However I couldn't find the article that gives the alternative spelling for cuil (F-A-I-L).... at least not yet.
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Photons? For a RADIO telescope?? Yes, quite a while since your astro classes.
Ummm... ALL electromagnetic radiation propagates as photons, not just visible light. What we call light is just a specific range of wavelengths of electromagnetic radiation. In essence it is no different than radio waves, microwaves, X-rays, gamma rays etc.
Quite a while since your physics classes.
A lot of the copying of commercial software is done by people who can't afford it. You'll get students that want to play with 3DSMax or something but can't really swing the $3,500 asking price so they'll download it. That is NOT a lost sale, if it was impossible to copy, they'd simply do without because they haven't the money.
I'm not saying that copying doesn't result in some lost revenue. I'm quite sure that there are sales that would be made if copying was impossible, but aren't because it is. However it is not 100% of copied software, not even close.
Not only is that not a lost sale, that is extremely good marketing that they're getting for free. People who get to know and like software that they pirate will probably buy that software when they can afford to or when they start using that software for business.
I still buy and use development tools that I got to know from pirating them while I was a student. Another example: As a kid I played pirated games and only pirated games. My parents would not buy them and I couldn't afford them. That made me a lifelong gamer and in the years since I started working I've spent thousands of dollars on games, consoles, etc.
This is about aesthetics though, not functionality.
The fact one can have patents on aesthetics just shows you how broken the system really is
I'm happy your phone does all that stuff that I've never needed on my iPhone
You've never had the need to browse to a website that requires Flash? You've never wanted to have a bit more storage space? You've never forgotten or lost your USB cable? You've never wanted to copy music from your iPhone?
I don't recall ever paying anything for XCode
Well I guess you won't be upgrading to version 4, which is not free.
I own a Samsung Galaxy S and it's NOTHING like an iPhone
1. It has expandable storage via microSD
2. Its battery is replaceable
3. It it can connect to any computer through a standard (and cheap) micro USB cable
4. I can copy music to AND FROM my phone with any software that supports USB storage or MTP
5. When I switched it on for the first time I didn't need a computer or special software and I wasn't forced to sign up for an iTunes store account
6. Within 5 minutes my phone had all my gmail, Facebook and twitter contacts on it, again without needing a computer
7. I can copy and paste just about everywhere
8. It runs Flash
9. Out of the box it supports tethering via USB or Bluetooth and it can even act like a Wi-Fi hotspot
10. I can decide what software I run on it rather than having a dictator with arbitrary rules telling me what I'm allowed to do
11. I can (and did) download SDK's and development tools for free to write my own software for it
12. It can send an receive MMS's (like every phone I've had for the last 6+ years)
I can go on, but I'm sure you get the idea
... We used to make a lot of money. Now we're not and don't know how to deal with things. It's XXX's fault.
Industries that became technologically obsolete have been making this same argument for years..
Here's the comment I left on the article:
Record companies have exploited a technological and legal window to make insane amounts of money from other people's creativity. Consumers and the majority of artists suffered because of this.
A few big artists (the U2's of the world) got to live like kings, but the majority of artists ended up being slaves to media conglomerates.
The technological window is closing rapidly. Recording, distribution and marketing once required resources that could only be supplied by big companies. In those times record companies contributed something.
Those barriers no longer exist, but the old music industry refuse to accept that they have no more use. They're trying to hold on to their old monopoly by lobbying for ridiculously draconian copyright laws e.g. the RIAA's $75 trillion lawsuit against Limewire.
Like many industries before them (e.g. sawyers after the invention of the saw mill) they'll be kept alive by government action, but ultimately they'll go extinct like the dinosaurs they are.
I've always been a bit puzzled by why the owners of a company are so utterly sheltered from damage cause by or crimes committed by that company.
I think Ambrose Bierce put it best in his 1911 Devil's Dictionary:
CORPORATION, n.
An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility.
Luckily more and more of your countrymen don't agree with you...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtaE1b7ozIU
I've also met some very cool soccer fans from the US here in South Africa
I've been following the bid process for SKA for quite a few years. As far as I can tell South Africa (together with its other Southern African partners) have a clear advantage over Australia (now together with NZ)
There are a few reasons for this:
1. The passing of the South Africa's Astronomy Geographic Advantage Act in 2007 declares almost the whole of the Northern Cape province (an area about 1.5 times that of the UK) into an astronomy advantage area. Amongst other things it means that light pollution will be limited and that the whole area will eventually be turned into a radio quiet zone.
2. Much of the technology used in South Africa's pilot program (MeerKAT) will be directly useable in SKA. By comparison, the Australian Square Kilometre Array Pathfinder project has much less tech that will be useable in SKA without major redesign and modification.
3. Price. From the start keeping the price down was a very high priority goal for the SA bid. E.g. they developed a new process to manufacture the dishes that is much cheaper than conventional methods. Now, after the credit crunch where many scientific budgets are getting cut, this strategy is paying off.
Disclaimer 1: I am a South African and therefore far from neutral
Disclaimer 2: The last time I read extensively on this is more than six months ago, so if there were significant developments recently then I might not be aware of them
From where I stand it seems that the DS is so insanely popular (almost 110 million units sold to date) exactly because its games are so easy to pirate, not in spite of it.
Its not like the games aren't selling either - close to 450 million DS games sold so far
Amen to that!
I hate CGI Yoda almost as much as I loved the original puppet version.
Just ran out of mod points, so I'll rather add this:
Somewhere the public perception of copyright (and other IP rights) went from "a time limited incentive to encourage the creation of novel content" to "content creators have the right to get paid in perpetuity".
Because of the technological and legal environment of the 20th century it was possible for content creators and distributors to make insane amounts of money for a very limited amount of work.
That created the idea that they have some god-given right to get paid for absolutely everything that ever gets done with their content or anything that is derived from it. That has not been the case for most of history and it will almost certainly not be the case in the future ... and no that will not mean the end of music and art.
When looking at where else all those unlicensed users would go if they didn't become legal Windows users, Apple doesn't really come into it much.
Well put. This actually happened to me recently.
My home PC had a volume licensed version of XP on it that I got from the company I worked for a few years back. Suddenly, about a month ago, my Windows Genuine Advantage started failing and my PC started nagging me about it the whole time.
I have used Linux a lot in the past but I've never had it installed as the main OS on my primary PC.
This incident was the last bit of motivation that I needed to switch to Linux. I have now been running Kubuntu 8.10 for two weeks and I love it. I can't think of any reason to switch back.
OK, let's raise a few points (full of simplifications, but I hope you get the gist of it):
Art is as old as humanity itself and the creation of art has been something that most people would engage in. Much later the idea of a professional artist came about. Over time the trend has been more and more to have to classes of people - the artists who produce art and the common folk who consume it.
Rich patrons paid for the creation of art by professional artists, but they were not the only consumers. Common folk could go to theatres or live music performances.
Art was democratised by technology, not by copyright laws. Copyright was created to place limits on what could be done to make sure that artists will benefit (for a limited period) from the work they created before it became part of the public domain.
For the largest part of the 20th century the technology was as such a stage that you needed large amount of resources to mass produce copies of art. This gave large corporations the same kind of monopoly on the creation of art that rich patrons had in an earlier era. They profited hugely from the state of technology and from copyright laws that were originally intended to foster innovation, protect individual artists and benefit society as a whole.
There are many problems with the way big corporations abuse copyright, but one of the worst is the way that they keep on pushing for copyright extension. They want to take from society and give nothing back. Take Disney for example. If you go through their products you will find hundreds examples of them profiting from the public domain (Snow White, Cinderella, the Three Little Pigs, Treasure Island .. you can fill pages with this). Yet they will do everything in their power to make copyrights perpetual. Mickey Mouse is now more than a hundred years old and yet they still retain exclusive rights. It does not benefit the original artists and it stifles innovation - the exact opposite of what copyright law was intended to do. If you have a child in kindergarten, they can't put up a play with Disney characters in them without infringing on their copyright.
In the mean time technology has progressed to a point where the stranglehold that large media conglomerates have on art are no longer the natural state of affairs, but they will fight tooth and claw to keep their racket going.
Technology has moved on, but our laws are still largely from the 18th century except that they have over time been skewed in favour of corporation and against the rights of artists and society as a whole.
Laws need to catch up.
Yes! It's only a matter of time until Slashdot's heroes, the Pirate Bay operators, get away with this. It's our right as human beings to rip off artists and not pay them, and it's totally awesome for Pirate Bay to run a torrent tracker that connects users so that they can distribute file chunks to each other.
FUCK artists, and FUCK their rights. They are our slaves. We don't owe them a dime for their work. Long live, Pirate Bay, and enjoy the victory, guys!
Yes of course - art only came into existence when copyright was invented in the 1700's and it will instantly disappear once copyright is gone. People like you act as if copyright is some divine right that was handed down from the hand of God himself.
Your view of the situation is extremely simplistic. The main problem is that current copyright laws mostly protect the profits of big corporations, they don't benefit artists and they discourage rather than encourage innovation.
The current laws are outdated and they don't work, but there are many companies willing to spend millions to maintain the status quo. Copyright laws must be completely rewritten so that they accomplish what they were intended to do in the first place: help society as a whole by encouraging innovation by ensuring that artists get their due.
I have experienced the highest level of responsiveness from an OS with BeOS - this is still unsurpassed.
I totally agree. This is what I liked most about BeOS. I find it amazing that with a super fast modern CPU and 4GB RAM I am still able to render my PC unresponsive for a few seconds - in both Windows and Linux!
That NEVER happened with BeOS, even on very poor hardware.
Man I would love to see what a Be-like OS can do on modern hardware.
Where are the point-and-click adventures?
Have you tried Strong Bad's Cool Game for Attractive People, Zack & Wiki and Sam & Max? (OK, Sam & Max is not a Wii original, but the Wii version is great)
In general I agree with your post. IMO the biggest problem was that 3rd party developers were caught napping. No-one expected the Wii's runaway success. Things are slowly changing though. There are more and more innovative, quality games coming out that were written from the ground up with the Wii's control's in mind rather than crappy ports that are basically PS2 versions of the game with motion control gimmicks added.
The days of the Wii being just for casual games and Nintendo staples like Mario and Zelda are coming to an end. One example of an upcoming Wii game that is both innovative, stylish and that is definitely not "just for kids" is MadWorld. Definitely not the kind of thing you would historcally associate with a Nintendo platform.
However, like you I'm still waiting for quality RPG on the Wii. I also think you would be able to make good RTS's (a genre that consoles have really been lacking in) using the Wiimote
In a time when we are bailing out our greatest financial institutions with $700 billion just to get them to give out mortgages to millions of low-paid workers again, is this really the time to be investing in "science" and "technology"?
Short answer: Yes
Long answer:
The LHC, which is the most expensive science experiment ever cost about $10 billion. I.e. a drop in the bucket compared to things like the proposed bailout or the Iraq war.
On the long term science and tech have consequences that can benefit the whole human race. Apart from the main and direct benefits there are also often other unforeseen benefits that you get for free. E.g. The World Wide Web that you are using right now was developed as a side project CERN.
To butcher an old saying: The NYSE bailout is the equivalent of giving someone enough food to survive another day. Money invested in science and technology might teach you how to fish, farm, build, cure ... hell, just about every single thing that keeps you alive on a day to day basis.
This just adds a bit of legitimacy to their cause. Now they can rightfully claim that they are being persecuted and censored. This is the same as what happens in parts of Europe where all things related to Nazis and Hilter are banned.
It just drives it underground and gives it more street cred. If these things are out in the open it is a lot easier to keep tabs on and to criticize it which in turn makes it more likely that people will see it for the bullshit it really is.
What ever the problem, censorship is almost never the answer.
I made an incorrect moderation on this comment. Commenting to cancel
With due respect to the authors of this official report and their three years of computer simulations, I do not believe for one moment that thermal expansion from the burning of paper, desks and plastic fittings (even over a period of many hours) is sufficient to explain this. I also do not think it can explain molten steel in the wreckage weeks after the event.
Translation: My common sense is more reliable than all that engineering, science, maths and computer simulations.
You should start working as a holistic civil engineer. I'm sure companies will be thrilled at all the money they could save by not doing any actual engineering and simply letting you intuit the correct answers.
I'll start eating grass as soon as I've installed my four stomachs. You've got a point if animals are fed foodstuffs that can also be fed to humans, but that is not at all universally the case.
Here in South Africa a lot of our meat is produced in the Karoo. Sheep feed on the natural vegetation and as long as you guard against overgrazing it is 100% sustainable and has very little impact on the environment.
Compare that with trying to grow crops there and the erosion, habitat destruction etc. that goes with that.
One last point: Yes the energy in the methane farts are lost forever, but that is just a fraction of the waste produced by cattle. Most of it takes the form of manure which (surprise, surprise) gets used to fertilize the crops that then again get fed to animals and people.
You don't even have to remove the HD. If the data is not encrypted you can boot from a USB key or CD and just copy the files.
I can't help but think that the first was password to their Vista Enterprise and second... Well... That hopefully was atleast bitlocker, perhaps more.
Or maybe the first one was BIOS and the second Windows.
You win this thread. Pity that the comment scores don't go higher than +5
We didn't find any results for "cuil pronunciation"
When you search for the same thing on google the first two hits both have the required information. However I couldn't find the article that gives the alternative spelling for cuil (F-A-I-L) .... at least not yet.