So is anyone actually selling these inexpensive computers?
If you look up the open compute project in Wikipedia and look at the OCP solution providers, none of them lists any pricing for OCP hardware, just "consult with us for a quote" buttons (at best).
Maybe they are cheaper if you're buying a floor's worth of racks, but it's hard to see how they would be much cheaper than SuperMicro cases and standard motherboards at quantities below that, or necessarily even cheaper than low-budget Dell systems.
If the wikipedia page is to believed, they're very hard to spot. The launch signature from orbit is probably beyond the detection of anyone other than the Russians or the Chinese.
The high strike angle, low radar cross section and impact velocity of mach 10 would probably render them not detectable on all but the most advanced missile detection systems.
My guess is that blast forensics would be the giveaway that it wasn't a localized accident, but the general state of repair of DPRK infrastructure and their proven dishonesty and secrecy would mean only high resolution reconnaissance imagery would be the only way to verify DPRK claims. Since DPRK is likely to deny incompetence or bad systems as the source of any problems, even if it was true, their claims of sabotage would likely lack credibility anyway.
Seems like the ideal weapon to use against DPRK launch targets. Enough destructive power and penetrating ability to use against primary launch sites or bunkers, yet almost undetectable enough against a country like DPRK that you might even get away with plausible deniability and blame target destruction on a mishap.
It almost sounds like Bitcoin is starting to suffer from the same capacity problems that hit USENET. I remember a point where running a server just became such a major resource hog that lots of places just quit or could only carry a subset of the hierarchy.
What's odd is that 80 GB doesn't seem like a staggering amount of data, especially in an era of superfast SSD storage (like NVMe) where the memory/disk penalty is a lot smaller. It doesn't even seem like a lot of RAM, either, unless you think in terms of consumer-level mainboards that have limits of 32 or 64 GB.
Does she actively manage all that money, or does she have some trusted insider do it for her?
I could see where she could possibly have some insight into a slice of the decisions that end up making her money -- she's probably as good an arbiter of what's fashionable in her circle as anyone.
With fair odds she could win the Presidency, what kind of revenge or reward could he be facing? A possible post-election investigation from a Clinton DOJ? Or perhaps on the reward side, a promotion and a posting in a do-nothing job in a pleasant and far away place, like New Zealand?
On the other hand, in the near term having the DOJ breathing down your neck is no small thing.
But most of what a typical welder does is the kind of practical trigonometry that doesn't involve actually knowing trigonometry per se, it's more intuition and experience in figuring out some angle necessary to complete a part or something, perhaps with the aide of a square or protractor or some kind of a precalculated table.
A good baseball outfielder is practical expert in physics, too, even though they have no idea how to do the math.
Compellent make a top-loading enclosure like this.
I think the reason they're loss common is that this kind of storage density has been pretty uncommon until relatively recently. Drive sizes have grown fast enough that the same 12 or 24 drive front loading shelf met a lot of needs over time.
The power consumption of a rack with a couple of 80 HDD drawers would be pretty intense, too.
Depending on the nature of the vessel and shot placement, it may just damage it in some non-critical way or it may actually do enough damage to remove propulsion or actually sink it. There's a lot of variables, from pirate vessel materials, construction, shot placement, and the ability of the boat to handle a leak of some kind.
Decent bilge pumps may be able to keep it from sinking long enough to make it back to port if the hull is only punctured once or above the average waterline. A steel hulled vessel may not puncture at the other limits of.50 BMG range.
Regardless, I'm not exactly sure what concern I'd have about scaring them off versus sinking them outright. We are talking about pirates firing RPGs, aren't we?
Not new, but it's surprising how many more 3.5" enclosures there are than 2.5" enclosures.
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Very well said. There is a tremendous bias against jobs that involve working with your hands and far too many people are encouraged to "go to college" in order to obtain some apocryphal "white collar" career. I would say that a lot of the IT problems many companies have originate with this blue collar bias, with the belief that IT employees are somehow not quite white collar.
I had a conversation with the maintenance supervisor at a client who told me about his son. In the top 10% of his class in high school, he told the school counselor he didn't want to go to college. The counselor requested a meeting with his dad and basically beat him up for not making him go to college (the kid ended up getting some kind of 2 year drafting education, and works for a kitchen equipment maker travelling to job sites to review kitchen construction plans to make sure the planned designs and installations will work -- the guy said he makes close to 100k).
As far as I can tell, all the "go to college" rhetoric has done is build college administration empires, make oodles of money for the student loan industry and probably dumb down traditional academic courses that vocationally-minded students have no interest in.
And what's the end game, exactly? $100k in a debt so you can make coffee? We've flooded the market with half-educated college graduates aspiring to a mythical middle class lifestyle that's becoming increasingly unobtainable even by well educated graduates.
One thing that kind of counts against a lot of skilled trades is the abysmal, old-school hostile management-labor relationship. I worked closely with journeyman electricians as my last job and while the benefits they had seemed great, the work environment seemed really unpleasant. Draconian, authoritarian management schemes, forced overtime and work rules that make a $20k a year cubical job seem pleasant.
The usual pirate scenario seems to be a fairly small fishing type boat attacking a large ocean going ship. The former is usually wooden and the latter a multi-story sized hunk of steel.
I'm not sure why even a.50 cal semi-auto sniper-style rifle wouldn't be more than a match for pirates in a small wooden boat. The effective range of RPGs is only a few hundred meters and the ability to fire it accurately from a small boat in the ocean seems pretty limited. It's slow to fire repeated rounds and the effect is likely to be limited against a large, steel ocean going freighter.
The.50 round is effective at much longer ranges, a large ship would provide a much more stable and accurate firing platform in addition to being able to fire multiple rounds quickly. One guy with a.50 sniper rifle could probably do serious damage to a wooden fishing boat, with nowhere safe to hide for its crew and way outside the effective range of a RPG.
The lakes around here don't have tides, but they generally do have waves.
I'm not cruel, but I do think if there was a place where he could just be forced to just stand there and bark, he'd eventually realize that the waves weren't going away and that barking at them just made him tired.
The problem is that what is labeled "free trade" really isn't free and open markets for everyone. It's a long litany of highly specific things which are and aren't subject to free trade along with a whole Panamax ship's worth of protectionism and special deals for corporations.
You can't even *have* free trade in many senses of the word because we don't have complete freedom. In the US, guns are by and large easy to obtain. If TPP enables free trade, why can't I sell shotguns to someone in Japan? Is it the US limit on my being a gun dealer, the Japanese restrictions on gun ownership, something else? If firearms are too controversial, pick anything else where there are very likely differences in regulation on something or other.
Even the Europeans have had gyrations with the common market when they run into differences in laws and regulations, requiring a massive bureaucracy to try to align rules and regulations across the continent.
At the end of the day, "free trade" is an empty slogan. What economists really mean is no-tariff trade, there is no such thing as free trade.
The other problem with "free trade" is that it's seldom free from costs, whether it's unemploying vasts swaths of people or upending entire ways of life (eg, rural farming). In a lot of ways that "better car" you got thanks to free trade resulted in the people of Flint, Michigan getting lead poisoning from their water. Flint's impoverishment is a direct result of free trade undermining the automotive business, and if Flint had a healthy economic base they wouldn't have cheaped out on their water system.
Economics is so busy cheerleading the macroeconomic benefits of free trade, but they have no solution to the near term problem of winners and losers.
If I could find an empty enough shoreline I would chain him in six inches of water until he got desensitized to whatever it was about it that made him bark.
While I agree that progress in broadband delivery has been too slow and hampered by profiteering and invented technical limitations, I can almost see why some kind of fairly high speed standard might cause issues.
I have 15 Mbps and we seem to have no problem with two HD video streams, concurrent web and remote access sessions at this speed. I'd like faster, especially upload, so that moving 20 gigs over the net was much faster, but what exactly is the usage baseline to be established with 25 Mbps? 3 4k streams plus enough overhead for a half-dozen large file downloads?
And once you define it at 25 Mbps, does this create regulatory headaches for smaller systems in small towns that need some kind of forklift upgrade to handle higher speeds?
I know that Compellent uses MLC in their flash tiers, too, but they refer to it "read intensive" and in the certification class it was explained it's only used for cache reads.
First off, your math is way off -- 24 x $400 is $9600.
Secondly, nobody would build a 24 TB array with 4x8TB in RAID 5. The risk of data loss during a disk rebuild is too high and it would provide so little I/O that it would be all but useless for anything but low-access archiving.
A better comparison for disks would be 1 TB 15k SAS, and these retail for $225, so the math on disk cost alone is a lot more competitive.
It becomes more competitive when you look at the performance -- 24 SSDs would give you close to 2 million IOPS and sequential throughput would probably max out SAS-12 controller or 10 gig Ethernet multi path links. 15k sas array of a similar composition would top out around 8k IOPS.
Plus, the cost of the disks is just a subset of the cost a complete storage solution. An Equallogic of 24x 15k disks would probably run in the mid $30s. If you just factor in the price differential for MLC SSDs, in theory the price ought not rise by more than $5k, or less than 20% while delivering performance that spinning rust would take $100k to compete with.
No corporation that gets audited sends the CEO down to the IRS without representation. That's the whole point of having a CPA handle your taxes. You'd be represented by at least a CPA if not a tax lawyer and corporate counsel.
And they're not going to ask for documents in person and then tap their watch as they wait for you to get them emailed. It's far more structured than that.
And you also mean to tell me that someone with wide-open access to sensitive employee data isn't in the loop enough to know if the company is being audited?
I think this creates the very definition of a fucked company that has other problems -- CEO self representing at an audit, handing over documents on demand without advice of counsel, and a corporate accounting and finance department completely out of the loop.
I forget why, but we had an RF modulator, possibly to connect some early VHS deck to a TV. We also had a video camera and a giant antenna on the roof of our house, and we thought it would be awesome to make our own local channel 3.
Try as we might, connecting the RF modulator to the TV antenna did not allow our broadcast to be received by anyone in the neighborhood, denying them the ability to see me lipsync AC/DC with a tennis racket for a guitar.
In college, I worked as a janitor in neighboring dorm. This building and mine were connected via tunnel, so I never had to go outside or bring a coat to work.
We seemed to have a lot of fire drills in the dorms, but when one happened in winter when I was working I said "fuck it, it's only a test" and stepped into the janitor closet and killed the lights. After about 15 minutes, I started getting kind of nervous. I came out after people started coming back, nearly 25 minutes after the alarm.
As it turned out, there HAD been a tiny fire (candle and some kind of decoration) in someone's room.
I'd say only kind of. The theming of the waiting areas is nice, but for the most part it's not much more than just interesting decoration which wears thin, especially when ride waits exceed 30 minutes or more.
I wouldn't actually be surprised to see almost all rides going completely reservation-only at some point. The ability to book fast passes weeks in the future has nearly made it that way, only limitations on how many fast passes you can get prevents this from being true now.
Now, the parks are amazingly maintained and very visually appealing and just walking around is kind of interesting, especially at Epcot, but it's still a lot about the specific attractions.
I just think a future theme park attraction needs to be modeled differently than the existing "ride" paradigm if they're going to maintain (and increase) the kinds of attendance numbers they've created with the hotel expansions. They don't add rides often enough to offset the increased attendance.
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So is anyone actually selling these inexpensive computers?
If you look up the open compute project in Wikipedia and look at the OCP solution providers, none of them lists any pricing for OCP hardware, just "consult with us for a quote" buttons (at best).
Maybe they are cheaper if you're buying a floor's worth of racks, but it's hard to see how they would be much cheaper than SuperMicro cases and standard motherboards at quantities below that, or necessarily even cheaper than low-budget Dell systems.
If the wikipedia page is to believed, they're very hard to spot. The launch signature from orbit is probably beyond the detection of anyone other than the Russians or the Chinese.
The high strike angle, low radar cross section and impact velocity of mach 10 would probably render them not detectable on all but the most advanced missile detection systems.
My guess is that blast forensics would be the giveaway that it wasn't a localized accident, but the general state of repair of DPRK infrastructure and their proven dishonesty and secrecy would mean only high resolution reconnaissance imagery would be the only way to verify DPRK claims. Since DPRK is likely to deny incompetence or bad systems as the source of any problems, even if it was true, their claims of sabotage would likely lack credibility anyway.
Seems like the ideal weapon to use against DPRK launch targets. Enough destructive power and penetrating ability to use against primary launch sites or bunkers, yet almost undetectable enough against a country like DPRK that you might even get away with plausible deniability and blame target destruction on a mishap.
It almost sounds like Bitcoin is starting to suffer from the same capacity problems that hit USENET. I remember a point where running a server just became such a major resource hog that lots of places just quit or could only carry a subset of the hierarchy.
What's odd is that 80 GB doesn't seem like a staggering amount of data, especially in an era of superfast SSD storage (like NVMe) where the memory/disk penalty is a lot smaller. It doesn't even seem like a lot of RAM, either, unless you think in terms of consumer-level mainboards that have limits of 32 or 64 GB.
...is "deckard".
Does she actively manage all that money, or does she have some trusted insider do it for her?
I could see where she could possibly have some insight into a slice of the decisions that end up making her money -- she's probably as good an arbiter of what's fashionable in her circle as anyone.
Caught between the DOJ and the Clintons.
With fair odds she could win the Presidency, what kind of revenge or reward could he be facing? A possible post-election investigation from a Clinton DOJ? Or perhaps on the reward side, a promotion and a posting in a do-nothing job in a pleasant and far away place, like New Zealand?
On the other hand, in the near term having the DOJ breathing down your neck is no small thing.
But most of what a typical welder does is the kind of practical trigonometry that doesn't involve actually knowing trigonometry per se, it's more intuition and experience in figuring out some angle necessary to complete a part or something, perhaps with the aide of a square or protractor or some kind of a precalculated table.
A good baseball outfielder is practical expert in physics, too, even though they have no idea how to do the math.
Compellent make a top-loading enclosure like this.
I think the reason they're loss common is that this kind of storage density has been pretty uncommon until relatively recently. Drive sizes have grown fast enough that the same 12 or 24 drive front loading shelf met a lot of needs over time.
The power consumption of a rack with a couple of 80 HDD drawers would be pretty intense, too.
Depending on the nature of the vessel and shot placement, it may just damage it in some non-critical way or it may actually do enough damage to remove propulsion or actually sink it. There's a lot of variables, from pirate vessel materials, construction, shot placement, and the ability of the boat to handle a leak of some kind.
Decent bilge pumps may be able to keep it from sinking long enough to make it back to port if the hull is only punctured once or above the average waterline. A steel hulled vessel may not puncture at the other limits of .50 BMG range.
Regardless, I'm not exactly sure what concern I'd have about scaring them off versus sinking them outright. We are talking about pirates firing RPGs, aren't we?
Not new, but it's surprising how many more 3.5" enclosures there are than 2.5" enclosures.
Very well said. There is a tremendous bias against jobs that involve working with your hands and far too many people are encouraged to "go to college" in order to obtain some apocryphal "white collar" career. I would say that a lot of the IT problems many companies have originate with this blue collar bias, with the belief that IT employees are somehow not quite white collar.
I had a conversation with the maintenance supervisor at a client who told me about his son. In the top 10% of his class in high school, he told the school counselor he didn't want to go to college. The counselor requested a meeting with his dad and basically beat him up for not making him go to college (the kid ended up getting some kind of 2 year drafting education, and works for a kitchen equipment maker travelling to job sites to review kitchen construction plans to make sure the planned designs and installations will work -- the guy said he makes close to 100k).
As far as I can tell, all the "go to college" rhetoric has done is build college administration empires, make oodles of money for the student loan industry and probably dumb down traditional academic courses that vocationally-minded students have no interest in.
And what's the end game, exactly? $100k in a debt so you can make coffee? We've flooded the market with half-educated college graduates aspiring to a mythical middle class lifestyle that's becoming increasingly unobtainable even by well educated graduates.
One thing that kind of counts against a lot of skilled trades is the abysmal, old-school hostile management-labor relationship. I worked closely with journeyman electricians as my last job and while the benefits they had seemed great, the work environment seemed really unpleasant. Draconian, authoritarian management schemes, forced overtime and work rules that make a $20k a year cubical job seem pleasant.
The usual pirate scenario seems to be a fairly small fishing type boat attacking a large ocean going ship. The former is usually wooden and the latter a multi-story sized hunk of steel.
I'm not sure why even a .50 cal semi-auto sniper-style rifle wouldn't be more than a match for pirates in a small wooden boat. The effective range of RPGs is only a few hundred meters and the ability to fire it accurately from a small boat in the ocean seems pretty limited. It's slow to fire repeated rounds and the effect is likely to be limited against a large, steel ocean going freighter.
The .50 round is effective at much longer ranges, a large ship would provide a much more stable and accurate firing platform in addition to being able to fire multiple rounds quickly. One guy with a .50 sniper rifle could probably do serious damage to a wooden fishing boat, with nowhere safe to hide for its crew and way outside the effective range of a RPG.
The lakes around here don't have tides, but they generally do have waves.
I'm not cruel, but I do think if there was a place where he could just be forced to just stand there and bark, he'd eventually realize that the waves weren't going away and that barking at them just made him tired.
The problem is that what is labeled "free trade" really isn't free and open markets for everyone. It's a long litany of highly specific things which are and aren't subject to free trade along with a whole Panamax ship's worth of protectionism and special deals for corporations.
You can't even *have* free trade in many senses of the word because we don't have complete freedom. In the US, guns are by and large easy to obtain. If TPP enables free trade, why can't I sell shotguns to someone in Japan? Is it the US limit on my being a gun dealer, the Japanese restrictions on gun ownership, something else? If firearms are too controversial, pick anything else where there are very likely differences in regulation on something or other.
Even the Europeans have had gyrations with the common market when they run into differences in laws and regulations, requiring a massive bureaucracy to try to align rules and regulations across the continent.
At the end of the day, "free trade" is an empty slogan. What economists really mean is no-tariff trade, there is no such thing as free trade.
The other problem with "free trade" is that it's seldom free from costs, whether it's unemploying vasts swaths of people or upending entire ways of life (eg, rural farming). In a lot of ways that "better car" you got thanks to free trade resulted in the people of Flint, Michigan getting lead poisoning from their water. Flint's impoverishment is a direct result of free trade undermining the automotive business, and if Flint had a healthy economic base they wouldn't have cheaped out on their water system.
Economics is so busy cheerleading the macroeconomic benefits of free trade, but they have no solution to the near term problem of winners and losers.
My fucking dog does that and it makes me crazy.
If I could find an empty enough shoreline I would chain him in six inches of water until he got desensitized to whatever it was about it that made him bark.
While I agree that progress in broadband delivery has been too slow and hampered by profiteering and invented technical limitations, I can almost see why some kind of fairly high speed standard might cause issues.
I have 15 Mbps and we seem to have no problem with two HD video streams, concurrent web and remote access sessions at this speed. I'd like faster, especially upload, so that moving 20 gigs over the net was much faster, but what exactly is the usage baseline to be established with 25 Mbps? 3 4k streams plus enough overhead for a half-dozen large file downloads?
And once you define it at 25 Mbps, does this create regulatory headaches for smaller systems in small towns that need some kind of forklift upgrade to handle higher speeds?
It's that law enforcement mindset of demanding compliance rather than asking for cooperation.
I know that Compellent uses MLC in their flash tiers, too, but they refer to it "read intensive" and in the certification class it was explained it's only used for cache reads.
First off, your math is way off -- 24 x $400 is $9600.
Secondly, nobody would build a 24 TB array with 4x8TB in RAID 5. The risk of data loss during a disk rebuild is too high and it would provide so little I/O that it would be all but useless for anything but low-access archiving.
A better comparison for disks would be 1 TB 15k SAS, and these retail for $225, so the math on disk cost alone is a lot more competitive.
It becomes more competitive when you look at the performance -- 24 SSDs would give you close to 2 million IOPS and sequential throughput would probably max out SAS-12 controller or 10 gig Ethernet multi path links. 15k sas array of a similar composition would top out around 8k IOPS.
Plus, the cost of the disks is just a subset of the cost a complete storage solution. An Equallogic of 24x 15k disks would probably run in the mid $30s. If you just factor in the price differential for MLC SSDs, in theory the price ought not rise by more than $5k, or less than 20% while delivering performance that spinning rust would take $100k to compete with.
I doubt it.
No corporation that gets audited sends the CEO down to the IRS without representation. That's the whole point of having a CPA handle your taxes. You'd be represented by at least a CPA if not a tax lawyer and corporate counsel.
And they're not going to ask for documents in person and then tap their watch as they wait for you to get them emailed. It's far more structured than that.
And you also mean to tell me that someone with wide-open access to sensitive employee data isn't in the loop enough to know if the company is being audited?
I think this creates the very definition of a fucked company that has other problems -- CEO self representing at an audit, handing over documents on demand without advice of counsel, and a corporate accounting and finance department completely out of the loop.
I forget why, but we had an RF modulator, possibly to connect some early VHS deck to a TV. We also had a video camera and a giant antenna on the roof of our house, and we thought it would be awesome to make our own local channel 3.
Try as we might, connecting the RF modulator to the TV antenna did not allow our broadcast to be received by anyone in the neighborhood, denying them the ability to see me lipsync AC/DC with a tennis racket for a guitar.
In college, I worked as a janitor in neighboring dorm. This building and mine were connected via tunnel, so I never had to go outside or bring a coat to work.
We seemed to have a lot of fire drills in the dorms, but when one happened in winter when I was working I said "fuck it, it's only a test" and stepped into the janitor closet and killed the lights. After about 15 minutes, I started getting kind of nervous. I came out after people started coming back, nearly 25 minutes after the alarm.
As it turned out, there HAD been a tiny fire (candle and some kind of decoration) in someone's room.
I'd say only kind of. The theming of the waiting areas is nice, but for the most part it's not much more than just interesting decoration which wears thin, especially when ride waits exceed 30 minutes or more.
I wouldn't actually be surprised to see almost all rides going completely reservation-only at some point. The ability to book fast passes weeks in the future has nearly made it that way, only limitations on how many fast passes you can get prevents this from being true now.
Now, the parks are amazingly maintained and very visually appealing and just walking around is kind of interesting, especially at Epcot, but it's still a lot about the specific attractions.
I just think a future theme park attraction needs to be modeled differently than the existing "ride" paradigm if they're going to maintain (and increase) the kinds of attendance numbers they've created with the hotel expansions. They don't add rides often enough to offset the increased attendance.