What you're arguing is that it's better to learn many unrelated short-term skills than it is to learn a number of skills that in aggregate provide better access to more complicated material in the future. It's pretty classic short-term thinking.
I get that you're angry because you don't understand it. I'm a little unclear why you want to hate Common Core so badly that you're unwilling to even try to understand it.
See this part that you wrote:
more important than figuring out the correct answer.
That's wrong. That's you making up in your head what the lesson is, because you don't understand the real lesson. You don't understand the goal.
The goal was never to get the correct answer. The goal was to teach the student a fundational skill they will build on in later grades.
You're making up a problem that doesn't exist by creating this scenario in your head where a boogieman is forcing kids to "use approved versions" to solve trivial tasks. That's not what's happening. That's you trying to wedge your experience in math into what the common core is doing. If you take some time to try to actually understand it. you'll likely be surprised to find that it's nothing like you imagine it to be.
Yes, things that you don't understand are scary. The solution isn't to bitch and moan on the internet about them. The solution is to learn about them, so they are less scary.
This is just you dismissing any disagreement as being ignorant, "scared", etc. No, it's that someone disagrees with you. Deal with it.
Maybe what you are saying is how it is supposed to work, but it doesn't, for far too many kids.
You have to get the basics down before you can "build" on anything. And kids aren't even learning how to divide, thanks to this crap.
I read it, extracted the actual division problems and taught him how to use graph paper to keep his columns straight for classic long division with remainders. He did the entire worksheet with the right answers. and got an F.
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Same here. It's insanity.
I'm assuming it was all about someone (or a lot of someones) getting their PhD, not about educating children. After all, it's hard to claim "original research" with tried and true methods.
However the 96% of the worlds population outside the USA may decide buying US made goods is a bad thing for the environment.
Feel free to quit all the trade agreements you have, build as many walls as you like, there rest of the world will learn to carry on without you.
Its 100% your choice to leave.... HOWEVER its 100% OUR choice to let you back in and it will be on OUR terms, not yours.
Excuse me, I can't hear you, I'm too busy processing all of your visa applications...
30 years ago, Wal-Mart pushed all the small shops out of the small towns; now, Wal-Mart is pulling up roots in those same small towns, leaving the residents with no retail grocery options.
What happens to the bears (consumers) when all the fish have devoured one another, and the lake stands empty?
{Raises hand} Er... someone opens a new grocery store in that town? Seems like a market just opened up.
My wife has Sprint (typical plan). I have T-Mobile ("prepaid", but it's unlimited and I pay once a month with automatic payments, so whatever).
Her service costs between two and three times as much as mine (closer to three).
She used to be able to say that she had a signal inside large buildings, and I sometimes didn't. I got a new phone recently that needed a smaller SIM card, and now I have great service inside such buildings too. No more advantage to Sprint.
Both have clunky websites, though to be fair T-mobile's site never got in a crazy login loop where it wouldn't believe a password had been changed. For months. Sprint's did.
Sprint costs almost three times as much, and offers no advantages that I can see. So I can't see anything good coming of a merger. (Unless, of course, Sprint becomes more open, better, and cheaper. Not holding my breath.)
The Clathrate Gun Hypothesis is the scary climate change idea, that we will heat up the planet until methane trapped in arctic soils and clathrates will start to be released, and, as methane is a really bad greenhouse gas, results in more warming, triggering the release of more methane, and forming a fast, tight positive feedback loop.
The so-called "weather" "men" are just making up fake temperatures to try to make hard working Republicans look like the bad guys when we deliver value to our shareholders by lobbying against the EPA. So sad.
Is "the man" "keepin' you down" and preventing you from from screwing over every living soul you know and selling every scrap of resource you can to the highest bidder so you can be king of the trash pit.
Er, you do realize that was a troll, right? Not an actual Republican?
Good, you're capable of rational thought. Now, consider the possibility that they did it not by "exposing what the Democrats have been doing" but simply by just lying about what everybody has been doing. Seriously consider the possibility that this very premise of your initial assumption is false and start over again from the beginning to see what your capacity for rational thought comes up with then.
Nobody had to lie to get me to vote against Clinton. Nobody needed to. The real things that she did and said, and the real overreach of her party, were more than enough.
You're just people googling your way to a paycheck anyway.
Parenthetically, what's wrong with googling your way to a paycheck?
If you can find information, effectively apply it to a task, do it well enough to get someone to pay you for it, and inevitably learn along the way, what's wrong with that?
Because if you can, somebody else can, for less than you.
Somebody else can attend classes too. Somebody else can read books too. Somebody else can do online tutorials too. For less than you.
Not everybody can get the same results out of doing those things though. And not everybody can get the same results out of googling. Hence, we have jobs...
The guy I was responding to thinks that there's something specially wrong about googling though.
You're just people googling your way to a paycheck anyway.
Parenthetically, what's wrong with googling your way to a paycheck?
If you can find information, effectively apply it to a task, do it well enough to get someone to pay you for it, and inevitably learn along the way, what's wrong with that?
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It's almost as though the web were some sort of client-server technology!
He doesn't need any excuse or forgiveness. It's not like he stole something or killed someone.
But ... but .. he said stuff they didn't like!
Off with his head!
... but nobody ever tells me that I can eat more salt.
It's bad enough sharing a bathroom with your own family ... what kind of masochists are you??
As a choice between letting in a terrorist in the name of "accuracy" or kicking out an innocent, we need to kick out the innocent.
Do you have the same opinion of our judicial system? How do you feel about the following statement which is in the same spirit as yours:
As a choice between letting a criminal go free in the name of "accuracy" or jailing an innocent, we need to jail the innocent.
Apples and oranges. Immigration policy is about who and how many we choose to admit, deciding what is in our national interest to do.
The difference is that in math, you actually are trying to get the right answer.
Put that on a plaque on the wall!
What you're arguing is that it's better to learn many unrelated short-term skills than it is to learn a number of skills that in aggregate provide better access to more complicated material in the future. It's pretty classic short-term thinking.
I get that you're angry because you don't understand it. I'm a little unclear why you want to hate Common Core so badly that you're unwilling to even try to understand it.
See this part that you wrote:
more important than figuring out the correct answer.
That's wrong. That's you making up in your head what the lesson is, because you don't understand the real lesson. You don't understand the goal.
The goal was never to get the correct answer. The goal was to teach the student a fundational skill they will build on in later grades.
You're making up a problem that doesn't exist by creating this scenario in your head where a boogieman is forcing kids to "use approved versions" to solve trivial tasks. That's not what's happening. That's you trying to wedge your experience in math into what the common core is doing. If you take some time to try to actually understand it. you'll likely be surprised to find that it's nothing like you imagine it to be.
Yes, things that you don't understand are scary. The solution isn't to bitch and moan on the internet about them. The solution is to learn about them, so they are less scary.
This is just you dismissing any disagreement as being ignorant, "scared", etc. No, it's that someone disagrees with you. Deal with it.
Maybe what you are saying is how it is supposed to work, but it doesn't, for far too many kids.
You have to get the basics down before you can "build" on anything. And kids aren't even learning how to divide, thanks to this crap.
I read it, extracted the actual division problems and taught him how to use graph paper to keep his columns straight for classic long division with remainders. He did the entire worksheet with the right answers. and got an F.
[/rant]
Same here. It's insanity.
I'm assuming it was all about someone (or a lot of someones) getting their PhD, not about educating children. After all, it's hard to claim "original research" with tried and true methods.
However the 96% of the worlds population outside the USA may decide buying US made goods is a bad thing for the environment. Feel free to quit all the trade agreements you have, build as many walls as you like, there rest of the world will learn to carry on without you. Its 100% your choice to leave.... HOWEVER its 100% OUR choice to let you back in and it will be on OUR terms, not yours.
Excuse me, I can't hear you, I'm too busy processing all of your visa applications ...
... so it is OK for me to not let my kids have smart phones and for me to police their internet usage?
Because the rest of the time that supposedly makes us backward freaks.
30 years ago, Wal-Mart pushed all the small shops out of the small towns; now, Wal-Mart is pulling up roots in those same small towns, leaving the residents with no retail grocery options.
What happens to the bears (consumers) when all the fish have devoured one another, and the lake stands empty?
{Raises hand} Er ... someone opens a new grocery store in that town? Seems like a market just opened up.
How about doing the Elric saga instead?
My wife has Sprint (typical plan). I have T-Mobile ("prepaid", but it's unlimited and I pay once a month with automatic payments, so whatever).
Her service costs between two and three times as much as mine (closer to three).
She used to be able to say that she had a signal inside large buildings, and I sometimes didn't. I got a new phone recently that needed a smaller SIM card, and now I have great service inside such buildings too. No more advantage to Sprint.
Both have clunky websites, though to be fair T-mobile's site never got in a crazy login loop where it wouldn't believe a password had been changed. For months. Sprint's did.
Sprint costs almost three times as much, and offers no advantages that I can see. So I can't see anything good coming of a merger. (Unless, of course, Sprint becomes more open, better, and cheaper. Not holding my breath.)
Don't say that you want a dialogue about something, then fire somebody if one actually happens.
No, for the same reason professional writers need an editor. Someone else will see things that you didn't. Yes, they will.
The headline is utter word salad.
I guess Slashdot has finally gone with the AI story generation for real.
Just admit it ... "a reader" is the return of Jon Katz!
So, what's a good kodi type system to check out? Asking for a friend ...
Cable Cutters Untie!!! and Snip!!
Apropos typo :) Untie indeed!
This exactly. I'd be on cable like white on rice if they'd get rid of the damn commercials and make it as easy to use as kodi type systems.
So, what's a good kodi type system to check out? Asking for a friend ...
The Clathrate Gun Hypothesis is the scary climate change idea, that we will heat up the planet until methane trapped in arctic soils and clathrates will start to be released, and, as methane is a really bad greenhouse gas, results in more warming, triggering the release of more methane, and forming a fast, tight positive feedback loop.
It's a really scary prospect.
Sounds like we should burn it then.
The so-called "weather" "men" are just making up fake temperatures to try to make hard working Republicans look like the bad guys when we deliver value to our shareholders by lobbying against the EPA. So sad.
Is "the man" "keepin' you down" and preventing you from from screwing over every living soul you know and selling every scrap of resource you can to the highest bidder so you can be king of the trash pit.
Er, you do realize that was a troll, right? Not an actual Republican?
Good, you're capable of rational thought. Now, consider the possibility that they did it not by "exposing what the Democrats have been doing" but simply by just lying about what everybody has been doing. Seriously consider the possibility that this very premise of your initial assumption is false and start over again from the beginning to see what your capacity for rational thought comes up with then.
Nobody had to lie to get me to vote against Clinton. Nobody needed to. The real things that she did and said, and the real overreach of her party, were more than enough.
You're just people googling your way to a paycheck anyway.
Parenthetically, what's wrong with googling your way to a paycheck?
If you can find information, effectively apply it to a task, do it well enough to get someone to pay you for it, and inevitably learn along the way, what's wrong with that?
Because if you can, somebody else can, for less than you.
Somebody else can attend classes too. Somebody else can read books too. Somebody else can do online tutorials too. For less than you.
Not everybody can get the same results out of doing those things though. And not everybody can get the same results out of googling. Hence, we have jobs ...
The guy I was responding to thinks that there's something specially wrong about googling though.
You're just people googling your way to a paycheck anyway.
Parenthetically, what's wrong with googling your way to a paycheck?
If you can find information, effectively apply it to a task, do it well enough to get someone to pay you for it, and inevitably learn along the way, what's wrong with that?