As someone who has been using the Frontmotion MSI files since pre-1.0, I think you're full of it. Can you please explain what you mean by "full MSI options" and how they are no longer supported?
The real reason will be that Dell only engineer their preload once for an entire run of machines, and update it when necessary. That is why for months after the release of SP2, new machines came out without that upgrade, and why new machines still need 18 patches to be up to date.
When they made their preload, 1.0.6 will have been the latest, and I'd bet they won't have used an unsupported third party MSI to do it - they could just as easily have had their script run "Firefox 1.0.6.exe/q".
He also chose to poke fun at the gathered hordes of open source coders saying "I do like all the dot-orgs... They have everything you need in life except soap."
Alan Cox didn't say that. The comedian compere did.
Debian (and by extension Ubuntu) compile in the auto hinter, which will let you use the patent encumbered hinting information in fonts. It's not turned on by default however: fix this by running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig". It will uncomment the sections in/etc/fonts/local.conf.
Per user, you can edit ~/.fonts.conf, and make sure something like this is set (you can post it into ~/.fonts.conf and all will be well):
Have now run the spyware sweeper. Damned right it's fast; came up in 2 seconds, and with four hits. Asking for details on them included "host redirector" (windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts) and "search redirector" (registry entries, shown without values, probably as a result of installing Google Toolbar).
Nothing at all like a "full" antispyware scanner like Spybot or MS/Giant AntiSpyware.
There appears to be nothing in the EULA that makes it claim to be spyware/adware.
It's heavily tied in with Ask Jeeves; it comes bundled with their desktop search, and you can't change the search button to go anywhere else.
It comes with a desktop firewall, spyware cleaner and privacy shredder (cookie/temp files deleter) but I'll leave someone with a clean VM image to try those things on thankyou!
While it would be nice to have tabs and a search box in IE, those are not the features of Firefox that make me use it. If you did something like "block ActiveX in IE", you'd get close, but then all those things that require IE wouldn't work.
The adblocker works. It displays boxes with "Ad blocked" rather than no ad at all, and lets you show them by clicking on them.
I look after a lot of people who need to keep using IE for various sites, but I still think that Firefox for general browsing and icons on the desktop for broken sites is the best option.
Hats off to the Foxie people though; it's not OSS and it's likely to be funded/sponsored by a search engine, but will be interesting to see if it gets better. It might be worth throwing on the PCs of people who need to use IE for regular browsing.
To reply to my own post, check out their knowledge base.
Foxie is not a Firefox "rip-off". On the contrary, the Foxie Project was originally designed to bring all the great functionality of Firefox to Internet Explorer users. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of web users still use Internet Explorer as their default web browser.
The reasons a person might choose IE over Firefox can vary from reluctance to switch browsers, imposed restrictions, personal preference, or the inherit problems of Firefox (such as bad memory handling and incompatibly with many web sites).
Foxie was coded from scratch and represents months of hard work without any personal gain other then the satisfaction of creating a truly superior product. Both Firefox and IE users can enjoy using this product and exploit its many unique features completely free of charge.
Lastly, to all the die-hard Firefox enthusiasts out there all I have to say is that imitation is the highest form of flattery!
The majority of distributions, like Ubuntu and Fedora? The majority of commercial for-pay dekstop distributions, like Red Hat and Novell Linux Desktop?
The majority of applications with "mindshare", like maybe, Mozilla/Firefox?
I don't think it's fair to denigrate GNOME by implying that KDE is more popular than it, especially if it's based on poll results. It's not unreasonable to call it a success, but blatant "it is better because I Say So" is unreasonable, and singles GNOME out as an 'opponent' when there are other desktop environments, a divisive move that Free Software doesn't have the resources to make.
Look at the fd.o effors to provide underlying infrastructure that can be shared by both projects. Working together where appropriate is the way forward.
From TFA (this was news last week, but The Dominion Post are running it from the OSS angle rather than the business angle this time):
The deal covers both open source and proprietary products from Novell. Proprietary products include Novell's Open Enterprise Server, asset management tool ZENworks, email and calendar program Groupwise and network security software BorderManager.
It will be of much more advantage to the schools in NZ currently paying ~$13,000 annually to Novell for eDirectory licenses, and those running Windows servers who want to be able to change to running something with similar identity and client management on a Windows desktop. Especially as the PCs will all still come preloaded with Windows, and in the current educational environment of "teach MS Publisher", the desktop component is probably not going to make a splash in schools here.
Watch out, the image I downloaded this morning seems to be a nightly - it still refers to 'testing' in the apt sources it generates for security, and so probably for http/ftp as well. The syslinux greeting also said 'built on 20050325'.
I cannot wait to get my hands on 2.10. Does anyone know if Ubuntu Hoary is going to use it?
Without a doubt. The Hoary beta is scheduled to come out on the day of the GNOME 2.10 release, made easy by the fact that GNOME's release manager, Jeff Waugh, works for Canonical. The full release should be a few weeks afterwards.
No, the outcome and confidence is great. It says "Even if we did everything we possibly could to sway things in the Windows direction, and ignored a bunch of Windows' costs, Linux is still cheaper".
Still cheaper. You can't necessarily put numbers on the price of spyware and reboots, but whatever that number is, Linux is cheaper than it already. It is not a case of "Linux is free if your time has no value" - it's that "even if you value your time at 3 times the price that you would on Windows, you are still better off".
The major version isn't incremented until the binary API is broken. So, going up in two, you can have 2.0, 2.2, 2.4, 2.6, 2.8, 2.10, 2.12 etc - don't think in terms of decimal numbers, just treat the second number as an integer on its own.
The fact that everyone is currently running Outlook, and wants it.
Besides, Microsoft have a complete reimplementation of Outlook in ASP; the OSS community doesn't. It would be nice if there was a replacement for Outlook on Windows for groupware (apparently Novell are doing it with an Evolution port), but there isn't one that does the same thing - yet.
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As someone who has been using the Frontmotion MSI files since pre-1.0, I think you're full of it. Can you please explain what you mean by "full MSI options" and how they are no longer supported?
/q".
The real reason will be that Dell only engineer their preload once for an entire run of machines, and update it when necessary. That is why for months after the release of SP2, new machines came out without that upgrade, and why new machines still need 18 patches to be up to date.
When they made their preload, 1.0.6 will have been the latest, and I'd bet they won't have used an unsupported third party MSI to do it - they could just as easily have had their script run "Firefox 1.0.6.exe
Is this meant to be a ripoff of Pretty Vegas?
He also chose to poke fun at the gathered hordes of open source coders saying "I do like all the dot-orgs... They have everything you need in life except soap."
Alan Cox didn't say that. The comedian compere did.
Debian (and by extension Ubuntu) compile in the auto hinter, which will let you use the patent encumbered hinting information in fonts. It's not turned on by default however: fix this by running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig". It will uncomment the sections in /etc/fonts/local.conf.
Per user, you can edit ~/.fonts.conf, and make sure something like this is set (you can post it into ~/.fonts.conf and all will be well):
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>
<match target="font">
<edit name="autohint" mode="assign">
<bool>true</bool>
</edit>
</match>
</fontconfig>
Don't wait, download Gallery 2 now!
:)
Couldn't you have waited till I got my copy first?
Have now run the spyware sweeper. Damned right it's fast; came up in 2 seconds, and with four hits. Asking for details on them included "host redirector" (windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts) and "search redirector" (registry entries, shown without values, probably as a result of installing Google Toolbar).
Nothing at all like a "full" antispyware scanner like Spybot or MS/Giant AntiSpyware.
There appears to be nothing in the EULA that makes it claim to be spyware/adware.
It's heavily tied in with Ask Jeeves; it comes bundled with their desktop search, and you can't change the search button to go anywhere else.
It comes with a desktop firewall, spyware cleaner and privacy shredder (cookie/temp files deleter) but I'll leave someone with a clean VM image to try those things on thankyou!
While it would be nice to have tabs and a search box in IE, those are not the features of Firefox that make me use it. If you did something like "block ActiveX in IE", you'd get close, but then all those things that require IE wouldn't work.
The adblocker works. It displays boxes with "Ad blocked" rather than no ad at all, and lets you show them by clicking on them.
I look after a lot of people who need to keep using IE for various sites, but I still think that Firefox for general browsing and icons on the desktop for broken sites is the best option.
Hats off to the Foxie people though; it's not OSS and it's likely to be funded/sponsored by a search engine, but will be interesting to see if it gets better. It might be worth throwing on the PCs of people who need to use IE for regular browsing.
To reply to my own post, check out their knowledge base.
Foxie is not a Firefox "rip-off". On the contrary, the Foxie Project was originally designed to bring all the great functionality of Firefox to Internet Explorer users. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of web users still use Internet Explorer as their default web browser.
The reasons a person might choose IE over Firefox can vary from reluctance to switch browsers, imposed restrictions, personal preference, or the inherit problems of Firefox (such as bad memory handling and incompatibly with many web sites).
Foxie was coded from scratch and represents months of hard work without any personal gain other then the satisfaction of creating a truly superior product. Both Firefox and IE users can enjoy using this product and exploit its many unique features completely free of charge.
Lastly, to all the die-hard Firefox enthusiasts out there all I have to say is that imitation is the highest form of flattery!
The main site is slashdotted, and you could try here instead.
The web page looks very much like a Mozilla Foundation/Corporation page. I wonder what their intentions really are?
The majority of distributions, like Ubuntu and Fedora? The majority of commercial for-pay dekstop distributions, like Red Hat and Novell Linux Desktop?
The majority of applications with "mindshare", like maybe, Mozilla/Firefox?
I don't think it's fair to denigrate GNOME by implying that KDE is more popular than it, especially if it's based on poll results. It's not unreasonable to call it a success, but blatant "it is better because I Say So" is unreasonable, and singles GNOME out as an 'opponent' when there are other desktop environments, a divisive move that Free Software doesn't have the resources to make.
Look at the fd.o effors to provide underlying infrastructure that can be shared by both projects. Working together where appropriate is the way forward.
I was taking the article seriously until I got to this line:
KDE is certainly more popular than Gnome among Linux users, and most would agree that it's by far the better of the two desktops.
From TFA (this was news last week, but The Dominion Post are running it from the OSS angle rather than the business angle this time):
The deal covers both open source and proprietary products from Novell. Proprietary products include Novell's Open Enterprise Server, asset management tool ZENworks, email and calendar program Groupwise and network security software BorderManager.
It will be of much more advantage to the schools in NZ currently paying ~$13,000 annually to Novell for eDirectory licenses, and those running Windows servers who want to be able to change to running something with similar identity and client management on a Windows desktop. Especially as the PCs will all still come preloaded with Windows, and in the current educational environment of "teach MS Publisher", the desktop component is probably not going to make a splash in schools here.
Watch out, the image I downloaded this morning seems to be a nightly - it still refers to 'testing' in the apt sources it generates for security, and so probably for http/ftp as well. The syslinux greeting also said 'built on 20050325'.
I ditched FC on my desktop and installed Ubuntu. Couldn't be happier.
Wouldn't run FC on a server anyway - that's what CentOS is for.
Isn't the goal of the Police Department to rid the city of crime, at the risk of putting itself out of work?
On Windows, you can install from the MSI file that Frontmotion package.
The Mozilla Foundation says an MSI installer blocks the 1.1 release.
Check out FrontMotion's Firefox MSI page for an excellent 3rd party MSI for Firefox (currently at 1.0.2 but regularly updated).
Otherwise, it's a stated goal for 1.1 to have an official MSI installer.
Or a completely open source alternative, PDF Creator.
I cannot wait to get my hands on 2.10. Does anyone know if Ubuntu Hoary is going to use it?
Without a doubt. The Hoary beta is scheduled to come out on the day of the GNOME 2.10 release, made easy by the fact that GNOME's release manager, Jeff Waugh, works for Canonical. The full release should be a few weeks afterwards.
No, the outcome and confidence is great. It says "Even if we did everything we possibly could to sway things in the Windows direction, and ignored a bunch of Windows' costs, Linux is still cheaper".
Still cheaper. You can't necessarily put numbers on the price of spyware and reboots, but whatever that number is, Linux is cheaper than it already. It is not a case of "Linux is free if your time has no value" - it's that "even if you value your time at 3 times the price that you would on Windows, you are still better off".
PPTP support relies on compiling the unsupported MPPE into your kernel, and until recently, either using scripts or a GTK1 gui written in PHP.
It's possible, but not pretty. I'm interested to see if the Xandros GUI can be used on other distros.
So, this version contains VPN support. PPTP? IPSEC? Cisco VPN concentrator? Can anyone give me any more details?
Is the VPN client open source?
The major version isn't incremented until the binary API is broken. So, going up in two, you can have 2.0, 2.2, 2.4, 2.6, 2.8, 2.10, 2.12 etc - don't think in terms of decimal numbers, just treat the second number as an integer on its own.
Not any more, but you can hit ' to search links only, like the default type ahead find worked in older Firefox builds.
The fact that everyone is currently running Outlook, and wants it.
Besides, Microsoft have a complete reimplementation of Outlook in ASP; the OSS community doesn't. It would be nice if there was a replacement for Outlook on Windows for groupware (apparently Novell are doing it with an Evolution port), but there isn't one that does the same thing - yet.