Well it's not just W98, i doubt IE7 will support W2K either since MS barely accepted making it avaible with Windows XP (and it probably won't run without SP2)
Yeah, but I've heard that they changed their minds and might also support W2K with some SP and XP without SP. (But who knows...)
But that's exactly the problem: How will you know wether your visitor has some SP installed? How will you know wether IE7 will even install or wether it will screw something up? What if Microsoft change their minds again and you now have to detect a different combination for IE7.1?
Mozilla (and derivates) is here - and it works everywhere, on every version, with every servicepack, no stupid questions asked.
But it doesn't help victory to kid yourself about how close it is.
I disagree. It was close, but if you look at the trends, they have something in common:
Linux making inroads on the desktop (not just in Brazil, China, Germany, etc.)
IE no longer the default browser on Macs and the Mac Mini being quite successful
Mobile (symbian) phones are used more and more for browsing the web and they often run Opera or some other non-IE browser
Playstation 3 will be Internet-aware and will be used by millions to browse the web. It may run Mozilla, Konqueror or Opera, but it surely won't run IE.
Every trend is hurting IE's usage.
The fact that update cycles are getting longer (and thus IE7 will take a really long time to get noticed) isn't quite good for IE either.
Also IE7 could actually hurt IE-marketshare: Assume you are a webmaster and you want to use transparent PNGs. What do you do? Check for operating system, service pack and turn users to IE7 and otherwise to Mozilla - or just recommend Mozilla for everybody because it runs everywhere, including Windows 98? (which is unsupported by IE7) Are you really willing to get hundreds of complaints by Windows 98 users who can't install IE7?
I suppose most webmasters will just recommend Mozilla. It works everywhere. And downloading IE7 or Mozilla doesn't make much difference anyway. Also using Mozilla is much less risky than upgrading IE which is integrated into the OS and where a lot of things may go wrong.
No. The browser wars aren't over yet, but IE is clearly losing domination and will never gain it back. IE will retain a large (maybe even a majority) of marketshare for quite some time, but without domination it's completely worthless for Microsoft. They can't set any standards without domination. They can't lock anybody into Windows without domination. They might as well bundle Mozilla themselves with Windows.
What stops us from just hopping across to the other half, instead of needing scifi tech to survive?
Relocating several billion people is impossible with any current available means of transportation. Also I don't think they would be very welcome on the other half. (Where would they live anyway?)
Also since much plant life would be destroyed (also by the depleted ozone layer), probably a lot more than half of humanity would starve anyway...
My point wasn't that KDE/Linux is better than MacOSX for everybody.
My point is that KDE offers a lot of advantages over MacOSX that may make it a better choice for many. And you don't have to be a zealot or crazy in any way to find KDE better than MacOSX, there are a lot of objective things where KDE excels.
The point is that KDE supports multiple desktops and MacOSX doesn't.
The point is that KDE supports Unix-style copy/paste (pasting with MMB, and yes MacOS-style is also supported) and MacOSX doesn't.
The point is that I can have partially overlapped active windows in KDE and not in MacOSX (and neither in Windows btw.)
The point is it is impoosible in MacOSX (at least the version I tried which was IIRC 10.2) to switch off all animations (for example I could choose between 2 minimize-animation styles, but I couldn't turn them off)
The point is that Konqueror has a great session management, which means after logging in all windows are loaded at the exact positions and geometries and on the correct desktops just like they were when logging off. (I must admit that I didn't try Safari though, but since neither Mozilla nor IE have it, I doubt that Safari has session management. And Opera's session management sucks because it supports just one window (and also isn't aware of desktops))
In KDE I can jump a scrollbar with middle-click, not so in MacOSX.
Yes, I know that MacOSX is marketed and is supposed to be the most usable system out there. And indeed I was very impressed in the first 2 hours of use - but after you have seen all the shiny animations and they just slow you down. In day-to-day use I much prefer KDE over MacOSX even though I'm sure that MacOSX fares much better in demos.
Hopefully MS will go under, so thousands of employees become unemployed. A true victory.
Actually, unlike IBM, which is spread over the whole world, Microsoft prefers to do almost all things at home in Redmond, Washington state. (like development, accounting, etc.)
The outlets in other parts of the US and other countries are usually just sales outlets and don't do anything but marketing and little support.
Microsoft does keep some bought companies around (like the one in Denmark) but in the long term they seem to get closed down and integrated into the big Microsoft campus at home (just like what happened to WinTV AFAIK which had to go from California to Redmond)
So I wonder how many people Microsoft employs in Brazil. 10? 20? Maybe 50? I would be really surprised if they were more than 100. And of course only salespeople, lawyers and maybe some support stuff, no developers.
On the other hand Linux will create many local jobs.
It doesn't matter why they did it, also being at "peace" with Microsoft doesn't prevent you from supporting Linux. The important fact is that they did a big Linux commitment and that that commitment is helping all Linux users.
A man in the middle attack can get it and doesn't even involve compromising the CD. Any router between the customer and the bank could be compromised and reroute all packets to a different destination. The most vulnerable will be the customer's router in thier home.
Well, in that case the CD doesn't have to patched and redistributed as the problem doesn't lie within the CD but in the network.
This is not for people who happily use onlinebanking.
This is only for people who DO NOT currently use onlinebanking:
People who don't have computers available and want to do their banking at their hotel (when they are on vacation) or at a friend (if they don't have a computer)
People whose computer is infected with spyware and they shouldn't do their banking on these installations
People who are afraid of being infected with spyware or are generally sceptic about computer security and/or paranoid.
If only 10% of customers who now go physically at the bank use the Knoppix-CD in the future, the savings would amount to millions. (which is certainly a lot more than it costs to create a Knoppix-based CD for bank use)
I would agree if there was no alternative to using Knoppix.
However, Knoppix would come in handy for not-so-savy but still paranoid types.
It's guaranteed that:
Bank use doesn't affect their installation. For example if they have a super-paranoid firewall in place, they don't have to pull it down.
Possibly installed spyware can't grab passwords, PINs, TANs, etc.
Phishing is impossible
And it's even easier than normal banking. No worries about security settings, no worries about cookies, no worries about Java-applets. - Just boot the CD and a browser window will popup with the bank's site already loaded.
To put a long story short: It's an almost 100% secure solution AND it can be used even if you haven't got a clue about computers.
Evolution is able to make forecasts. For example Mendel had differently colored flowers and could make forecasts about which colors the offspring had and at what ratios. If a theory can be used for forecasts, it's useful for many things (like creating better plants). ID doesn't make any forecasts, it's unscientific and useless. It's so useless that you would be worse off with no theory at all.
Life isn't structured and orderly at all. There are diseases and wars - that should have been created by an intelligent designer? Doesn't sound very intelligent for me.
Even the ID-crowd is following the rules of evolution deep down their hearts. For example I bet that you wouldn't want to mate and have a family with someone who is suffering from a genetic disease.
One counter-argument might run that although we might be going downhill fast in evolutionary terms, we're also going uphill very fast technologically.
Doesn't matter how dumb the primordial organic neuroprocessor is when it's been augmented with a Cyberdyne Systems omni-intelligent prepare-to-be-assimilated super jewel. Or, translated into Earth-speak, in the time-frame that these problems might become manifest, we might be able to fix them, or make them irrelevant.
All that is only true in the very short time of plenty aka the Oil age which extends from about 1900 to 2050 (with the real golden age of luxury being 1950-2000), which is a very, very short period in human evolution. Even in that time, most parts of the planet don't experience that plentiness.
The real golden age is already over, what we call "economic downturn" will become a real crisis in a couple of years.
Furthermore, if lethal cancer occurs once you are past child-bearing age (around 30 up until recently), it isn't such a "bad thing" for the species.
Wrong, only if it occurs after your children can take care for themselves. If the parents of a 5-year olds die, the 5-year old will have worse chances of becoming successful in life.
That's just not true. Wide adoption also means wide use in small and medium companies where openness is great (who hasn't hacked up some bash-script to do something? And no, Windows doesn't offer anything comparably documented and usable)
Also of course learning to program is also easier (everything is already installed or on the installation media) while you have to pay big bucks to do programming the Microsoft-way. (Yeah, I know, you can download and install python, perl and most others on Windows, too. But what's the point of running Windows then?)
But forget all the above, if you want the most important advantage of openness is:
With Linux you don't have to be afraid that your single vendor stops providing rebates or the special version.
Sadly, most designs at csszengarden are crappy fixed-width designs, I've viewed all of them a couple of months ago and just the title-design and maybe 6-7 others (out of hundreds) are variable-width.
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AFAIK there are talks about Abiword joining in, too.
Anyway, KOffice doing OASIS is great because it's much less bloated than OO.
Yeah, but I've heard that they changed their minds and might also support W2K with some SP and XP without SP. (But who knows...)
But that's exactly the problem: How will you know wether your visitor has some SP installed? How will you know wether IE7 will even install or wether it will screw something up? What if Microsoft change their minds again and you now have to detect a different combination for IE7.1?
Mozilla (and derivates) is here - and it works everywhere, on every version, with every servicepack, no stupid questions asked.
I disagree. It was close, but if you look at the trends, they have something in common:
Every trend is hurting IE's usage.
The fact that update cycles are getting longer (and thus IE7 will take a really long time to get noticed) isn't quite good for IE either.
Also IE7 could actually hurt IE-marketshare: Assume you are a webmaster and you want to use transparent PNGs. What do you do? Check for operating system, service pack and turn users to IE7 and otherwise to Mozilla - or just recommend Mozilla for everybody because it runs everywhere, including Windows 98? (which is unsupported by IE7) Are you really willing to get hundreds of complaints by Windows 98 users who can't install IE7?
I suppose most webmasters will just recommend Mozilla. It works everywhere. And downloading IE7 or Mozilla doesn't make much difference anyway. Also using Mozilla is much less risky than upgrading IE which is integrated into the OS and where a lot of things may go wrong.
No. The browser wars aren't over yet, but IE is clearly losing domination and will never gain it back. IE will retain a large (maybe even a majority) of marketshare for quite some time, but without domination it's completely worthless for Microsoft. They can't set any standards without domination. They can't lock anybody into Windows without domination. They might as well bundle Mozilla themselves with Windows.
"The planet" is destroyed?
Even a full-scale nuclear war wouldn't "destroy" the planet.
Using a phrase like that makes you look like an idiot.
Forests are destroyed, life is destroyed - but not "the planet".
Relocating several billion people is impossible with any current available means of transportation. Also I don't think they would be very welcome on the other half. (Where would they live anyway?)
Also since much plant life would be destroyed (also by the depleted ozone layer), probably a lot more than half of humanity would starve anyway...
My point wasn't that KDE/Linux is better than MacOSX for everybody.
My point is that KDE offers a lot of advantages over MacOSX that may make it a better choice for many. And you don't have to be a zealot or crazy in any way to find KDE better than MacOSX, there are a lot of objective things where KDE excels.
Does Fink support multiple desktops and Unix-style copy/paste?
The point is that KDE supports multiple desktops and MacOSX doesn't.
The point is that KDE supports Unix-style copy/paste (pasting with MMB, and yes MacOS-style is also supported) and MacOSX doesn't.
The point is that I can have partially overlapped active windows in KDE and not in MacOSX (and neither in Windows btw.)
The point is it is impoosible in MacOSX (at least the version I tried which was IIRC 10.2) to switch off all animations (for example I could choose between 2 minimize-animation styles, but I couldn't turn them off)
The point is that Konqueror has a great session management, which means after logging in all windows are loaded at the exact positions and geometries and on the correct desktops just like they were when logging off. (I must admit that I didn't try Safari though, but since neither Mozilla nor IE have it, I doubt that Safari has session management. And Opera's session management sucks because it supports just one window (and also isn't aware of desktops))
In KDE I can jump a scrollbar with middle-click, not so in MacOSX.
Yes, I know that MacOSX is marketed and is supposed to be the most usable system out there. And indeed I was very impressed in the first 2 hours of use - but after you have seen all the shiny animations and they just slow you down. In day-to-day use I much prefer KDE over MacOSX even though I'm sure that MacOSX fares much better in demos.
Actually, unlike IBM, which is spread over the whole world, Microsoft prefers to do almost all things at home in Redmond, Washington state. (like development, accounting, etc.)
The outlets in other parts of the US and other countries are usually just sales outlets and don't do anything but marketing and little support.
Microsoft does keep some bought companies around (like the one in Denmark) but in the long term they seem to get closed down and integrated into the big Microsoft campus at home (just like what happened to WinTV AFAIK which had to go from California to Redmond)
So I wonder how many people Microsoft employs in Brazil. 10? 20? Maybe 50? I would be really surprised if they were more than 100. And of course only salespeople, lawyers and maybe some support stuff, no developers.
On the other hand Linux will create many local jobs.
Of course it will be impossible to completely rot out Windows in all South Korea, but Microsoft has very good reason to be worried.
The USA cannot maintain an enormous trade deficit forever, so the devaluation of the dollar is just a matter of time.
No, the true copyright-holder can easily review any OSS-project and trace any code fragments.
Nice analogy, if it weren't for the simple fact that MS doesn't have any possibility to hurt Japan in any way.
Any hostile action by Microsoft drives Japan further to Linux, which is bad for MS and good for Japan in the long run.
It doesn't matter why they did it, also being at "peace" with Microsoft doesn't prevent you from supporting Linux. The important fact is that they did a big Linux commitment and that that commitment is helping all Linux users.
Well, in that case the CD doesn't have to patched and redistributed as the problem doesn't lie within the CD but in the network.
QED.
This is only for people who DO NOT currently use onlinebanking:
If only 10% of customers who now go physically at the bank use the Knoppix-CD in the future, the savings would amount to millions. (which is certainly a lot more than it costs to create a Knoppix-based CD for bank use)
This Knoppix is designed to connect to the bank and ONLY to the bank.
So this pretty much rules out all browser-vulnerabilities, simply because the browser cannot load anything from other websites.
Also I guess the firewall will block all ports, so there would be no way of an attacker to get in.
I can't think of any security vulnerabilityEVER that would allow an attacker to compromize this system, can you?
However, Knoppix would come in handy for not-so-savy but still paranoid types.
It's guaranteed that:
To put a long story short: It's an almost 100% secure solution AND it can be used even if you haven't got a clue about computers.
Some people even (oh. my. god!) don't even have a computer!
Doesn't matter how dumb the primordial organic neuroprocessor is when it's been augmented with a Cyberdyne Systems omni-intelligent prepare-to-be-assimilated super jewel. Or, translated into Earth-speak, in the time-frame that these problems might become manifest, we might be able to fix them, or make them irrelevant.
All that is only true in the very short time of plenty aka the Oil age which extends from about 1900 to 2050 (with the real golden age of luxury being 1950-2000), which is a very, very short period in human evolution. Even in that time, most parts of the planet don't experience that plentiness.
The real golden age is already over, what we call "economic downturn" will become a real crisis in a couple of years.
Wrong, only if it occurs after your children can take care for themselves. If the parents of a 5-year olds die, the 5-year old will have worse chances of becoming successful in life.
Also of course learning to program is also easier (everything is already installed or on the installation media) while you have to pay big bucks to do programming the Microsoft-way. (Yeah, I know, you can download and install python, perl and most others on Windows, too. But what's the point of running Windows then?)
But forget all the above, if you want the most important advantage of openness is:
With Linux you don't have to be afraid that your single vendor stops providing rebates or the special version.
check out www.csszengarden.com
Sadly, most designs at csszengarden are crappy fixed-width designs, I've viewed all of them a couple of months ago and just the title-design and maybe 6-7 others (out of hundreds) are variable-width.
AFAIK, planetary spin cannot cause a planet to lose it's atmosphere.