Frankly the submitter should be likewise ridiculed. If he's heard disdain for a language with no qualifiers or reasons, they should know it's likely the same kind of person as the GPP.
PHP is a fine language, with the right framework. Although most people think "PHP" and "Zend Framework" are synonymous, and don't know there are others (like Yii or Cake).
In the case of Zend, it has tended towards bloat for the sake of backwards compatibility (atleast the last time I went back to use it after a few years hiatus I found half of the functions I normally used flagged as depricated, yet not removed) and I think that's where alot of the ire is raised.
If the submitter does decide to dump PHP, then Python has a fast growing userbase, and the Parent post mentioned Ruby. I can't really comment on either since I've only brushed over Python and never touched Ruby.
I'm in Scotland and we've got the Nationals in 'power' at the moment (we get Education, Health, Income Tax, Law and some others, but money and legislation on Power, Defence, Foreign Policy etc. comes from Westminster). There will be an Independence referendum in the next year or so and I'm still undecided myself which way I'll vote. There are pros and cons for each side. The biggest Pro would be finally kicking the Tories out of Scotland. Sure, they got that bit of the Borders, but there's about 10 people living there and half of them are English. Ofcourse, then we're left with Labour as our most right-wing party of note, since our National Party are about as left as the Liberals.
The biggest Con would be keeping our economy working. Especially with the way Europe is at the moment (and no amount of increased trade with Norway will counter that).
What I'm scared of is that I don't know enough to make an informed choice. And that people in general have lost faith in politics in a broad sense because they feel they don't know enough, and don't CARE enough to find out. They just trust that each party is pretty much the same as the other ones and just vote for the person that shouts the loudest at them.
Here in Scotland we have Holyrood, who defer to Westminster for certain issues, who defer to the EU on top of that. I know here we have three systems to worry about, and three Elections to vote in. We vote in MSPs, MPs and MEPs. Each parliament is so monolithic and entwined in their own red tape that the general population don't know what each one of them *really* does, and who controls what and are so fatigued by it that voter turnout for the last Scottish Election was 50%. Half the people in Scotland didn't turn up to vote.
It's 2am here. I'm rambling. Hopefully some of it made sense:P
In what way? Unity's been recommended by a whole bunch of people and fulfils everything
It will be open to would-be programmers, designers, artists, etc.
Unity is designed with the Programmer and the Designer in mind
The requirements are that it has to be one of either Windows/XBox or Android,
out of the box it works on Windows, and with the Dev license and the Android Build license it does XBox and Android (granted, that's ALOT of cash though)
It has to be relatively simple for the kids to get up and running quickly,
During installation it includes MonoDevelop IDE and incorporates it in the GUI, although it's possible to use any IDE, (I use VS 2010 at work) so you can start developing straight off the bat.
It needs to be as close to free as possible.
Indie version is totally free. Has a MADE WITH UNITY splash screen and they won't stop you making money off it either.
Teaching them to use stuff like Blender, C#, C++, Java, XNA, OpenGL and the Android SDK is probably a bit much.
While yes, this is pretty much cutting out a MAJOR part of developing a game, Unity can fulfil his (frankly tight and stupid) request. Since it has it's own Asset store with loads of free models (and really cheap models) no blender needed. Hell, so long as you can export to FBX you're sorted. You could even use AutoCAD.
You can programme using a variation of Javascript which I HOPE he's willing to teach the kids. Frankly if you can teach them JS you can teach them C#. With any competent IDE with some form of auto-complete you can pretty much just teach the syntax and let them discover the libraries themselves.
In my experience, code is fine with Unity, I've not had any problems with it mangling that. It's the Textures/Prefabs/Scenes/Shaders and the way they link to the in-game objects that gets mangled by source control. So after a botched commit you might end up with those new objects you added being untextured, or having the components unlinked.
I *work* with Unity3D. I love it. For our 3D projects in the past we've been the long suffering slave of Shockwave 3D. Now all of a sudden our portfolio doesn't look like it's stuck in 2001. Plus, with Pro, (And about $2000) we can port to Droid/iOS in no-time, using 99% of the same source code.
agreed. Although the poisonous metals one are pretty dangerous.
I really don't get why the rope-and-can-stilts are listed as dangerous, considering they were a popular home-made toy back at the start of the 20th Century. Atleast in the UK they were.
There's still the issue of the differences between IE 8 and 9. There's a few issues with some of our toolkit that just can't be fixed without forcing IE 9 into IE 8 standards mode. Granted, it's just a matter of sticking a meta tag in the header, but, funilly enough, if you don't make that meta tag the FIRST meta tag, IE 9 throws a MAJOR wobbly and won't execute it, or any of the other command meta tags. And will still run the controls wrongly.
Just for reference, if anyone else has wondered why their code won't work in IE 9 but does in 8, the meta tag is <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=EmulateIE8"/>
it's amazing how many extra tags, conditional comments and js hacks have to be implemented just to accommodate Internet Explorer. And yes, many corporate networks still have 10 year old code that only runs in IE 6, that is the crux of their productivity suite. It's an utter shambles honestly. And MS is entirely to blame.
I have to say, normally/. doesn't elaborate on complex terms in the summary. So why this time have they decided to do it for "LAN Party"?
I mean, if this is the start of a trend whereby terms people might not know are added into the summary, by all means continue. But still... why the hell did you think we wouldn't know what a LAN party is?
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Definitely mine. Word up to the Flimbo's Quest posse.
and values of First Post are <=10 posts.
that Microsoft Certified Solutions Provider logo seems to impress the businesses you're making stuff for, I guess
I can attest to that!
They give you lots of free stuff too.
*not an MS Shill honest
only if you use ViewState. if you use something like MVC then you cut out a shittonne of JS.
Frankly the submitter should be likewise ridiculed. If he's heard disdain for a language with no qualifiers or reasons, they should know it's likely the same kind of person as the GPP.
PHP is a fine language, with the right framework. Although most people think "PHP" and "Zend Framework" are synonymous, and don't know there are others (like Yii or Cake).
A quick google brought up this wikipedia page: Comparison of Web Application Frameworks
In the case of Zend, it has tended towards bloat for the sake of backwards compatibility (atleast the last time I went back to use it after a few years hiatus I found half of the functions I normally used flagged as depricated, yet not removed) and I think that's where alot of the ire is raised.
If the submitter does decide to dump PHP, then Python has a fast growing userbase, and the Parent post mentioned Ruby. I can't really comment on either since I've only brushed over Python and never touched Ruby.
Politicians are hypocritical! Shock horror.
I'm in Scotland and we've got the Nationals in 'power' at the moment (we get Education, Health, Income Tax, Law and some others, but money and legislation on Power, Defence, Foreign Policy etc. comes from Westminster). There will be an Independence referendum in the next year or so and I'm still undecided myself which way I'll vote. There are pros and cons for each side. The biggest Pro would be finally kicking the Tories out of Scotland.
Sure, they got that bit of the Borders, but there's about 10 people living there and half of them are English. Ofcourse, then we're left with Labour as our most right-wing party of note, since our National Party are about as left as the Liberals.
The biggest Con would be keeping our economy working. Especially with the way Europe is at the moment (and no amount of increased trade with Norway will counter that).
What I'm scared of is that I don't know enough to make an informed choice. And that people in general have lost faith in politics in a broad sense because they feel they don't know enough, and don't CARE enough to find out. They just trust that each party is pretty much the same as the other ones and just vote for the person that shouts the loudest at them.
Here in Scotland we have Holyrood, who defer to Westminster for certain issues, who defer to the EU on top of that. I know here we have three systems to worry about, and three Elections to vote in. We vote in MSPs, MPs and MEPs. Each parliament is so monolithic and entwined in their own red tape that the general population don't know what each one of them *really* does, and who controls what and are so fatigued by it that voter turnout for the last Scottish Election was 50%. Half the people in Scotland didn't turn up to vote.
It's 2am here. I'm rambling. Hopefully some of it made sense :P
In what way? Unity's been recommended by a whole bunch of people and fulfils everything
Unity is designed with the Programmer and the Designer in mind
out of the box it works on Windows, and with the Dev license and the Android Build license it does XBox and Android (granted, that's ALOT of cash though)
During installation it includes MonoDevelop IDE and incorporates it in the GUI, although it's possible to use any IDE, (I use VS 2010 at work) so you can start developing straight off the bat.
Indie version is totally free. Has a MADE WITH UNITY splash screen and they won't stop you making money off it either.
While yes, this is pretty much cutting out a MAJOR part of developing a game, Unity can fulfil his (frankly tight and stupid) request. Since it has it's own Asset store with loads of free models (and really cheap models) no blender needed. Hell, so long as you can export to FBX you're sorted. You could even use AutoCAD.
You can programme using a variation of Javascript which I HOPE he's willing to teach the kids. Frankly if you can teach them JS you can teach them C#. With any competent IDE with some form of auto-complete you can pretty much just teach the syntax and let them discover the libraries themselves.
In my experience, code is fine with Unity, I've not had any problems with it mangling that. It's the Textures/Prefabs/Scenes/Shaders and the way they link to the in-game objects that gets mangled by source control. So after a botched commit you might end up with those new objects you added being untextured, or having the components unlinked.
oh, and yeah, Source control is a bitch, even with pro. Most of my time is spend ensuring our last commit didn't screw over our prefab associations.
3.5 is supposed to give better SVN Control though.
I *work* with Unity3D. I love it.
For our 3D projects in the past we've been the long suffering slave of Shockwave 3D. Now all of a sudden our portfolio doesn't look like it's stuck in 2001. Plus, with Pro, (And about $2000) we can port to Droid/iOS in no-time, using 99% of the same source code.
You get the same thing out of Unity3D + C#. with the added bonus of it working on OSX, and it's free.
Why switch completely rather than offer both? Like most hosting companies do.
that's rideculus
agreed. Although the poisonous metals one are pretty dangerous.
I really don't get why the rope-and-can-stilts are listed as dangerous, considering they were a popular home-made toy back at the start of the 20th Century. Atleast in the UK they were.
There's still the issue of the differences between IE 8 and 9. There's a few issues with some of our toolkit that just can't be fixed without forcing IE 9 into IE 8 standards mode. Granted, it's just a matter of sticking a meta tag in the header, but, funilly enough, if you don't make that meta tag the FIRST meta tag, IE 9 throws a MAJOR wobbly and won't execute it, or any of the other command meta tags. And will still run the controls wrongly.
Just for reference, if anyone else has wondered why their code won't work in IE 9 but does in 8, the meta tag is <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=EmulateIE8" />
it's amazing how many extra tags, conditional comments and js hacks have to be implemented just to accommodate Internet Explorer. And yes, many corporate networks still have 10 year old code that only runs in IE 6, that is the crux of their productivity suite. It's an utter shambles honestly. And MS is entirely to blame.
I have to say, normally /. doesn't elaborate on complex terms in the summary. So why this time have they decided to do it for "LAN Party"?
I mean, if this is the start of a trend whereby terms people might not know are added into the summary, by all means continue. But still... why the hell did you think we wouldn't know what a LAN party is?
Members of the EU are often referred to as Member States. Or Constituent Countries.
He's been staring at the Metro interface too long
Two Drinks + n for a "First" in a post that's not first, where n is the number of threads into the comments where it appears.
Philosophy dictates that you cannot prove something exists.
yes, but he's now the Prime Minister... since 2008.
20 years ago on Christmas day!
1988 is when the wall came down. 1991 is when it was dissolved. 20 years this month.
"far-sightedness" - Only if you're a shaman.
Also the fact that he's a physical coward. He had to be slowly coaxed into attacking fleeing civilians in our last D&D Game.